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Hi everyone, I have rooted my x10 using superoneclick, I deleted the bloat wares i did not want, I flashed multitouch using flashtool, i then restored to factory and re-did all that after my wife deleted txt and dialler while playing with my new faster phone. I have the media i want, the home style and what else that i like but i want to flash a custom rom and be able to still use all my apps ect without downloading everyone of them again! I have installed xrecovery and made a backup of my current phone also. SO - I have downloaded the .rar file of the rom i would like to my computer desktop and not unzipped it and now i want to just tripple check where i save that file to on the phone. do i just save it to general sd card? do i make a new folder in sd card and put it in that? Then after i have saved it to wherever{???} do i enter xrecovery, scroll down then select install custom rom and select it from wherever? THEN {sorry i know this drags on} before i reeboot do i restore my backup to apply my apps ect or do i do that after reeboot?
ANY advice is appreciated. I know these questions sound basic to most of you but im the only person i know that even messes with this stuff none of my mates or work mates are even remotely interested so xda is my support network!
Lastly, to go back from custom rom to "normal" I assume i just run With se support and then run my backup from backup and restore app file?
model X10i
Baseband 2.0.46
Kernel 2.6.29
Build 2.0.A.0.504
Thanks everyone!!
What rom are you looking at? First, the file needs to be in zip format for XRecovery, not rar. RAR files usually are for the flash tool. Confused?
Put zip file anywhere you like on sdcard. Actually, you can download the zip file directly from your phone browser or the xda app. It will save to download folder by default. Then enter XRecovery and wipe cache, then go into advanced options and wipe battery stats and dalvik cache. After that install custom zip from sdcard.
Do NOT use xRecovery restore to restore apps and data. Use titanium backup from the market to backup and restore apps when going between android versions.
Also, why use outdated 2.0.A.0.504 firmware? Use global generic 2.1.A.0.435 firmware, it has dualtouch implementation and lots of other tweaks. Also, custom ROMs are particular about which baseband to use, so double check that. This will also get you ready for the official 2.3.3 Gingerbread update directly from PC Companion or SEUS when available.
if you have a set group of apps you would always want the fastest and best way to reinstall between versions is with an app called 'MyBackup Root' it works better with data between versions. I would also recommend Titanium Backup for just backing up and restoring all apps but MyBackup will restore them all faster for initial setup.
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What rom are you looking at? First, the file needs to be in zip format for XRecovery, not rar. RAR files usually are for the flash tool. Confused?
Put zip file anywhere you like on sdcard. Actually, you can download the zip file directly from your phone browser or the xda app. It will save to download folder by default. Then enter XRecovery and wipe cache, then go into advanced options and wipe battery stats and dalvik cache. After that install custom zip from sdcard.
Do NOT use xRecovery restore to restore apps and data. Use titanium backup from the market to backup and restore apps when going between android versions.
Also, why use outdated 2.0.A.0.504 firmware? Use global generic 2.1.A.0.435 firmware, it has dualtouch implementation and lots of other tweaks. Also, custom ROMs are particular about which baseband to use, so double check that. This will also get you ready for the official 2.3.3 Gingerbread update directly from PC Companion or SEUS when available.
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You don't do full wipe/factory restore in xrec? You're supposed to
fiscidtox said:
You don't do full wipe/factory restore in xrec? You're supposed to
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Never have..... and I never had any of the multitude of problems others seem to have. I go between stock 2.1, FreeX10 and WB's CM6 rom quite frequently.
Doesn't flashing a new ROM result in wiping the previous one? You don't have to factory reset before using SEUS or PC Companion...it does it within the process.
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Never have..... and I never had any of the multitude of problems others seem to have. I go between stock 2.1, FreeX10 and WB's CM6 rom quite frequently.
Doesn't flashing a new ROM result in wiping the previous one? You don't have to factory reset before using SEUS or PC Companion...it does it within the process.
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I never have problems and I always do, every instruction set I've ever read said to. If that were the case, it also wipes the dalvik and the cache partition too, so you might as well not do any of it.
Since my time with the htc hero, I've always been told to do the three (factory wipe, cache and dalvik cache).
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I never have problems and I always do, every instruction set I've ever read said to. If that were the case, it also wipes the dalvik and the cache partition too, so you might as well not do any of it.
Since my time with the htc hero, I've always been told to do the three (factory wipe, cache and dalvik cache).
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I always thought it was cache, dalvik cache, and battery stats. I guess it might not matter as much as we think. I know that I have never had any problems restoring apps or data either, which everyone else seems to have trouble. Maybe factory wipe is causing the difficulties.
I never read anyone telling others with problems to do a factory wipe. I have only read wipe battery stats and dalvik cache.
I don't know enough to say either way, but in my experience it doesn't appear to be needed. Confused.
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I always thought it was cache, dalvik cache, and battery stats. I guess it might not matter as much as we think. I know that I have never had any problems restoring apps or data either, which everyone else seems to have trouble. Maybe factory wipe is causing the difficulties.
I never read anyone telling others with problems to do a factory wipe. I have only read wipe battery stats and dalvik cache.
I don't know enough to say either way, but in my experience it doesn't appear to be needed. Confused.
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hahaha no it definitely isn't causing any issues....
Go read any of the threads for noobs, they all say to do a factory wipe.
From every thread I've ever read, and every dev thread, the ALWAYS recommend to do a factory wipe
Here is just one example, though with search function you will literally find hundreds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939812
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hahaha no it definitely isn't causing any issues....
Go read any of the threads for noobs, they all say to do a factory wipe.
From every thread I've ever read, and every dev thread, the ALWAYS recommend to do a factory wipe
Here is just one example, though with search function you will literally find hundreds.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939812
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I didn't say that devs don't put it in their guide. I said that I always thought it was cache, dalvik cache, and battery stats.
I beg to differ about issues restoring apps and data. The devs say not to restore data (which would suck btw). I do it all the time between 2.1 and 2.2. I never had any problems with the market, angry birds etc. that others have.
Again, not saying that I know better than anyone. Just saying it is not necessary for me. I can understand the theory behind wiping everything in preparation, but I am proof that it is not required.
I also see some guides that don't say to wipe battery stats, like WB's. However, if you have battery drain that is the first thing you are told to do. Also, there are calibration apps out there that say wiping battery stats and dalvik cache are the two things needed with a new rom.
Wow what a response!
Cool, so first up i should go to the latest spec firmware {using se update service} ?
THEN, the rom i am looking at is [MOD][rendeiro2005]Cyanogen6.1.1_v02 {i now have it in zip}
It looks good from what i have read.... opinions?
So i have titanium backup as well, and ive watched videos on how to use it so ive got that sorted - as far as flashing a new firmware... some posts say you need a new kernel as well?
Sounds like my backup root is a good option, again, if i flash a whole new rom does it stay on the phone somewhere/somehow?
Hey thanks for the info guys its appreciated
If you flashed 2.0.A.0.504 global generic, then update service should work. If you flashed a regional firmware, then you should use the Flash Tool 0.2.9.1 to flash global generic 2.1.A.0.435. Then flash baseband, if needed.
Then use flash tool to root, optimize, and install xRecovery. Do a full backup with xRecovery of 2.1, so you can easily switch back to 2.1 if wanted. Also, backup with Titanium Backup or Mybackup Pro, to restore apps and data on your new rom.
Download rom custom zip to sdcard. Go into xRecovery. Wipe everything. Install custom rom zip. Using custom kernel is not mandatory, I don't think. Just need correct baseband. Restore apps and data with Titanium Backup.
i flashed the new generic no worries, re-rooted phone and installed xrecovery, used titanium backup and that worked well so all my apps and setting were as applied {including mod bootscreen} then after that i thought i should start xrecovery and load restore the backup i had made there.... it went through the process fine then said recovery finished reboot phone, so i did, and phone started to boot as normal, including with the different boot screen but then it just went to blank screen and the light at the top of the phone just shone bright white for a min or two.... then it started doing this and rebooting over and over and over.....for a half hour! so i reflashed the new generic and re-did ti backup, re-rooted and am wondering did xrecovery do that because my recovery file was made under my old firmware? or what else did i do wrong?
When going between firmwares and especially going from 2.1 to 2.2 or 2.3.
I suggest not using your back up from the previous rom.
There are compatibility issues with some apps.
When you clear your battery cache, I suggest you make sure your fully charged.
Font want your phone to think half charge is full.
You don't need to clear your cache......but you should.
It will work with out clearing the cache.
But it could fc or just go bananas.
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Bootloop.... sounds like you are using wrong baseband, or you tried to reinstall xRecovery and Busybox. You don't need to worry about root, JIT, or xRecovery with custom ROMs. It's in there already...
Ive re-flashed phone with new firmware 2.1.A.0.435 Kernel is 2.6.29 Baseband is 2.1.54.
Re-rooted, re-loaded my titanium backup and phone is now as it was before i tried restoring xrecovery backup file and resulting bootloop.
now i will make a new xrecovery backup as my phone is now - All this trial and error stuff is exhausting!
Still thinking i should flash 435 Kernel?
Im happy with that so far - now i am going to try the 3g build.prop mod to see if i can get an improvement there.
Ive got speedtest but every test is so varied {from 1200 up to 420 up next test} so i don't know how well that will go.
Only after ive got a grip on all that stuff i will go for a new rom, mainly because i fly away for a weeks work in two days and wont have time to fix anything i do wrong! thanks again guys ill be donating next week to the helpful souls on here!
Restoring backup file in XRecovery is why you still have Bootloop. You just set it back to the error you had before.
Instead, do a fresh install of the custom rom zip.
You may need to flash the baseband patch if the rom isn't for baseband .54.... Flash the rom, then the baseband patch
Sorry my last post made it sound like i was back to bootloop, what i meant that after i re-flashed to standard, re-rooted ect ect without trying to restore with xrecovery my phone was back to working like it should with all my apps and multi touch ect working! so baseband is the next thing i will look at flashing....... Thanks again
Baseband 54 works for Rendero's rom.
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Baseband 54 works for Rendero's rom.
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Our use the patch with any 2.2 based rom. I'm on miui now with .55 and the patch and it works perfectly
Okay, so I see there are many people that have the same questions I had yesterday trying to apply this update with a custom ROM already on my phone. Here is what you'll need and how to get your phone updated. This isn't the only way to do it, but it's what I did and it was pretty easy. It was harder finding out how to do all of this, and in what order than actually doing the process.
It will take a little while to do this, roughly 30-45 minutes.
Here are the steps I had to use being on 1.5.7 with GingerBlur:
Here is what you'll need after backing up your apps/files to the SD Card, in this order:
Download RSD Lite 5.0
Download 1.8.3 sbf
Gingerbreak
GladEnable
Tenwar's System Recovery
GreyBlur 2.X (Or insert custom ROM here)
1: Flash the 1.8.3 update on to your phone using RSD Lite, this will reset your phone completely to stock.
2: Run GingerBreak to root the device.
3: At this point I was unable to install Tenwar's, so I used GladEnable to sideload it.
4: Installed Tenwar's and loaded up my custom ROM.
5: Restore your backup.
This should get you all updated and with your custom ROM installed.
Awesome! Thanks man
quick question: how do we make a backup (Ti Backup?) on our current setups? And will restoring the backup we make bring back all apps and settings and everything?
Thanks a lot for this....
spitefulcheerio said:
Awesome! Thanks man
quick question: how do we make a backup (Ti Backup?) on our current setups? And will restoring the backup we make bring back all apps and settings and everything?
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Yes, use Titanium Backup to backup your User Apps and Data, not the system apps or data. And make sure to backup to your SD Card as the flash with wipe your internal memory and your backup will be lost. I had that issue and had to reinstall all of my apps. It's minor, but still a pain in the ass.
Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
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Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
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When I flashed 1.8.3 through RSD Lite, it completely put everything back to bone stock. It wiped the entire internal memory. So I'm not sure if it should or shouldn't, but it did. I know it wasn't GingerBreak because you flash the update before installing GB.
IrateCustomer said:
When I flashed 1.8.3 through RSD Lite, it completely put everything back to bone stock. It wiped the entire internal memory. So I'm not sure if it should or shouldn't, but it did. I know it wasn't GingerBreak because you flash the update before installing GB.
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that's weird, b/c when I flashed it, it didn't wipe anything just added the bloat ware back and changed the radio, etc. still had homescreen the same with all my apps, etc.... oh well
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that's weird, b/c when I flashed it, it didn't wipe anything just added the bloat ware back and changed the radio, etc. still had homescreen the same with all my apps, etc.... oh well
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Maybe because I was on 1.5.7, and flashed 1.8.3 instead of going back and OTAing the phone. That would make sense because the OTA process probably does a backup/restore during the process. As mentioned in the OP, it's only one way to do it, but there are other options.
the sbf download is sending me to Motorola site,, dont I need the sbf not the exe??
Datblkbro said:
the sbf download is sending me to Motorola site,, dont I need the sbf not the exe??
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I've updated the link in the OP so you can download the correct file. My apologies.
Regarding 1.8.3 sbf, which of the sfb files from the link you provided is it? They vary in size. Thanks.
You want the one with the most hits and the ridiculously long filename.
It actually has 1.8.3 buried in the name of the file. It's a few from the top.
THANK YOU this has been a big question mark for me ever since 1.83 came out. Fantastic guide.
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Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
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Did the GingerBlur 3.1 get fixed when it comes to the Webtop mod? Cuz I read something about it having a problem with actually working on this Rom? Maybe that was on the 3.0, so I figure 3.1 fixed it?
PLease just a simple "yes it works" or "No, it doesn't" will suffice
Thanks
Just wanted to post my initial experience with using RSDlite to update afterting and gingerblurring it.
I followed your how to as much as I could (You should provide a link to RSDlite instructions, I had to search for it because I didn't know how to do it exactly... not a big deal but it would make it easier/idiot proof)
When I first updated via RSDlite, something must hve went wrong. At first, A triangle and lil android was haunting me on my screen... so I went to reboot.. **** [I thought I bricked it]... Then I restarted it again... DOUBLE ****... Couldn't load into recovery... I restarted a third time and it loaded up(**** YES). But for some odd reason, it said I still had to update (even though it said the firmware was @ 1.8.3.)
Everything seemed to work fine, and was able too root and ginger blur it. About a few hours later, wifi seemed wonky (kept randomly disconnecting and the update dialog came up every 15 minutes).
I ended up reflashing to 1.2.8 and OTA's all the way up to 1.8.3 and then re-rooted and blurred it. No problems since the full refresh
Hopefully everybody elses experience goes better than mine!
Also, Random question. How do you remove Tenwars System Recovery app after using it to load up a rom?
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Also, Random question. How do you remove Tenwars System Recovery app after using it to load up a rom?
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You can use Uninstaller for Root (I found it on the Market), and you can uninstall from there if you wish. Personally I see no real reason to remove it, but you can if you need to with the above referenced Uninstaller. There are a few others that can do it, but UfR is free, which is clearly a win.
564mb for the sfb??? Thats freaking huge
GreyBlur on 1.8.3
After following the steps I still show
"System Version 4.1.57MB860.ATT.us"
rooted and sideloading enabled by gladroot then flashed greyblur 2.1....little help for the n00b?
followed this thread back in november when i first got the phone(its the first thread in the "thread roll-up sticky") : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798064
Back then it was much different and said to get voodoo. Everything went fine and I havent seen a reason to update my phone.
Now I want to update to whatever the newest stuff is. I guess we have 2.2 by now? I dont need a lot of stuff. I probably didnt need voodoo. But on my current version things have started to get really glitchy and slow and GPS will not find my location at all.
I also froze the verizon auto update program or whatever its called because they kept trying to update my phone OTA. I dont like that.
What steps do I need to do in order to get up to date and not lose all my stuff on my phone?
I think this really depends on what YOU feel up to date is for YOU.
Plenty of people could push a custom ROM and all its shiny bells and whistles but from the onset you seem like you would just be happy with a functioning stock ROM (perhaps a debloated and debinged one).
I would read through the few ROMs we have, including the latest 2.2 stock ROM and figure out what you would like. Find out if you want a custom kernel or just an easy set and forget one, voodoo or non.
I'll do my best at a suggestion here before I tackle the next part of your post.
I would go here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013312
Grab one of the stock ED01 or EC01 (read the bugs n such if you like, basically the same thing) ROM and radio ODIN packages and follow the guide to flashing with ODIN. Grab Imnuts stock voltage PBJ kernel and just keep it vanilla.
**The above will require the use of ODIN and CWR(clockwork recovery MOD)**
Now the "not lose" part of your question. This depends on what you mean by lose. ( I feel like Clinton and his definition of what "it" is....). If you backup with google and/or titanium backup you are pretty much in the clear. Aside from losing maybe a login or some preferences you will not lose any hard data (pics, contacts, apps....etc)
Read all the steps before you do anything. Also, you will need Odin. Just search for it in the forums (or Google) and you should be able to find it.
What you want to do is flash CWM 3 by following this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905
Then, you should go and backup your stuff with Titanium Backup (get it at the market). Backup contacts with Google.
Get the new radio from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097355 I would go for ED01.
Download ComRom 2.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108991) to your SD Card. I recommended getting a version with a kernel either pbj or otb kernel.
Next, boot to Clockwork Mod (press volume up and down and power) and make a nandroid backup there. (Select the backup option in the menu).
Now, after every thing is backed up, wipe data, clear cache, clear dalvik (under advanced menu I think).
Finally, flash the ComRom by selecting the zip from the sdcard.
Now, as a warning, you will lose the stuff on your phone which is why you made backups. DO NOT flash the nandroid (CMW) backup. That is for if you go back to stock. DO use Titanium Backup and your Google account to get MOST of your stuff back. Everything stored on your SD Card should be safe.
If anything that I said is wrong, xda please correct me, but I've done it a few times... this is roughly what I did, and it worked for me.
EDIT: gkirby11 beat me to it.
I would agree with the previous suggestions, and would add that you should use Titanium Backup to backup all your user apps+data. Do not, however, use it to backup/restore system data, because this has been shown in many cases to be the cause of force closes, and other headaches.
I am thanking you for your great username, Art Vandelay. I assume that is a Seinfeld reference to the importer/exporter.
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Read all the steps before you do anything. Also, you will need Odin. Just search for it in the forums (or Google) and you should be able to find it.
What you want to do is flash CWM 3 by following this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046905
Then, you should go and backup your stuff with Titanium Backup (get it at the market). Backup contacts with Google.
Get the new radio from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097355 I would go for ED01.
Download ComRom 2.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108991) to your SD Card. I recommended getting a version with a kernel either pbj or otb kernel.
Next, boot to Clockwork Mod (press volume up and down and power) and make a nandroid backup there. (Select the backup option in the menu).
Now, after every thing is backed up, wipe data, clear cache, clear dalvik (under advanced menu I think).
Finally, flash the ComRom by selecting the zip from the sdcard.
Now, as a warning, you will lose the stuff on your phone which is why you made backups. DO NOT flash the nandroid (CMW) backup. That is for if you go back to stock. DO use Titanium Backup and your Google account to get MOST of your stuff back. Everything stored on your SD Card should be safe.
If anything that I said is wrong, xda please correct me, but I've done it a few times... this is roughly what I did, and it worked for me.
EDIT: gkirby11 beat me to it.
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Okay, I sat here for the past hour trying to get caught up to date before I ask my questions. I only use this site like once a month and there is always new stuff here. I already have odin on my laptop cause I needed it for the tutorial that I linked in the OP
1)I have Rom Manager(v4.3.1.3) and under RECOVERY It says "current Recovery:ClockworkMod 2.5.1.0" and "Latest: ClockworkMod 3.0.0.8. Does this change step one as you posted?
2)I have titanium backup and have used it to freeze some of the bloatware. I do not know how to backup anything with it though. where do the backup files sit anyways until I am ready to put them back on my updated phone?
3)Can I go strait to ED01 from where I am now(DI01--was a few months after phone was released) Or do I have to work my way up through the other updates? What order do they go?
I dont even know what this step is, lol. Radio???
4)I will get the 1.5 OTB voodoo kernal. also, I noticed this roms stup looks like adwlauncher or whatever that other launcher is. Right now i use launcherpro, which i like more. I hate touchwiz. can I still use launcherpro on here?
5)I am guessing this part would be self explanatory once I got to it, but I might as well ask just in case, what is a nandroid backup?
6)Where do I go to complete these functions?
7)Do I just select it using a file browser like astro????
I thought that I had to remove voodoo before I did any of these steps??
What about the bloatware that I have frozen? The only reason I did that was because i was told to so in the tutorial that i linked in the OP . It said I will need them if I ever update.
Thanks for your help guys!!
1. CMW 2.x is fine.
2. Open Titanium, click the backup/restore tab at the top. Now press the menu button (left to your home button), click batch. Now, select RUN next to Backup all User Apps. It will then back them up to your SD Card.
3. Go through the steps listed in the tutorial. You will step through a couple radios to get to ED01
4. It uses the gingerbread launcher (made by google, but it is modified by TSM), but yes, you can use whatever launcher you want on almost any ROM.
5. A nandroid backup is made in Clockwork Mod, and it backs up the system & all your apps & data. If you want to go back to stock, you can flash the stock ROM and then restore this backup, and it will be exactly how it is right now.
6. These functions are in Clockwork Mod Recovery. Hold Volume Up, Volume Down, and Power to get to CWM.
7. No, you select the option in Clockwork Mod. It is something like choose zip from sd card. From there you navigate the SD card looking for the zip file with ComRom.
As a tip, to navigate CWM, use the volume keys to go up and down in the lists and the power button to select an option. Use the menu button to go back to the last list. When you are done, select reboot & cross your fingers.
If you have voodoo, OTB is also voodooo, so you are fine (*should be fine*).
Your bloatware will "disappear". You won't have to freeze it ever again. ComRom doesn't have any of the bing, vzw bloat, etc.
Good Luck & if at first you don't succeed, flash, flash again! For the worst mistakes, Heimdal and Odin work wonders.
Sorry if I miss something but first off try and stay away from rom manager, many people have been having issues with it.
ED01 is what verizon released to us as the official ota. EC01 is one that developers created from the mesmerize I believe. I don't think there's much of a difference between the two. Getting ED01 takes a bit more work as you have to return to stock and ota all the way up through 3g and it takes a bit.
If you're already on voodoo I think you shouldn't have any problems flashing a rom with a packaged voodoo kernel such as otb.
What I would do since you already have a recovery is download a zipped CWM 3.x and place it on your sd. Then download the rom of choice, recommend com rom or evil fascination if you're not going to flash much, they come with voodoo kernels.
Hop on odin and flash the EC01 radio. Boot into recovery and flash CWM 3.x. wipe data, cache, and dalvik. Flash the rom. After backing up of course.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Hope this helps
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I am thanking you for your great username, Art Vandelay. I assume that is a Seinfeld reference to the importer/exporter.
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Yep- most people i work with are too young to get that.
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Sorry if I miss something but first off try and stay away from rom manager, many people have been having issues with it.
ED01 is what verizon released to us as the official ota. EC01 is one that developers created from the mesmerize I believe. I don't think there's much of a difference between the two. Getting ED01 takes a bit more work as you have to return to stock and ota all the way up through 3g and it takes a bit.
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Yes, I would stay away from ROM Manager. Just boot into CWM.
Also, if you follow the step in the forum post that I linked, you can get ED01 without going back to stock and ota-ing. They have extracted the upgrade packages, so you just have to flash two or three packages to get to ED01. Really though either EC01, ED01, or ED03 should be fine.
Once I boot into clockwork mod I dont get an option for Nandroid backup
this is what I get:
Android system recovery <2e>
Samsung recovery Utils
--For BML--
Reboot system now
apply sdcard:update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
E: Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1
(invalid argument)
#MANUAL MODE#
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With the exclamation marker and the little android guy. I am affraid to click anything else so I just rebooted the phone and now i am stuck. I started here because this was the first step to do in the tutorial.
also, for me, to select anything in CWM, I need to press the home button, not the power button.
wut do?
You don't have CWM installed then.
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If you can boot into android. Make your titanium backups and google backups. Then, get one of the all in one packages for odin and flash it.
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If you can boot into android. Make your titanium backups and google backups. Then, get one of the all in one packages for odin and flash it.
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what if i just flashed CWM like you said to do in your original post? Even if its a few extra steps or whatever, it makes it easier for me because I have that list and a tutorial you linked to go off of
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Once I boot into clockwork mod I dont get an option for Nandroid backup
this is what I get:
With the exclamation marker and the little android guy. I am affraid to click anything else so I just rebooted the phone and now i am stuck. I started here because this was the first step to do in the tutorial.
also, for me, to select anything in CWM, I need to press the home button, not the power button.
wut do?
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You are booted into the stock Samsung recovery, not CWM. This is why the home key works instead of the power button.
Flash this recovery via Odin if you're on voodoo: (or want to get on voodoo)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36791/CWM3_Voodoo.tar.md5
Or, use this if non-voodoo: (use .tar file)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942021
Once Odin is done, it will power down the phone. Unplug, reinsert battery and boot into CWM by holding vol up, vol down, and power at the same time, continue holding until CWM appears. Go to backup/restore.
artvandelay440 said:
You are booted into the stock Samsung recovery, not CWM. This is why the home key works instead of the power button.
Flash this recovery via Odin if you're on voodoo: (or want to get on voodoo)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36791/CWM3_Voodoo.tar.md5
Or, use this if non-voodoo: (use .tar file)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942021
Once Odin is done, it will power down the phone. Unplug, reinsert battery and boot into CWM by holding vol up, vol down, and power at the same time, continue holding until CWM appears. Go to backup/restore.
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this is wierd to me though. because when i first got the phone I thought I had done all that already. I followed the tutorial in the OP but this was in november and it was much different then. what that tutorial accomplished was getting rid of bloat, adding voodoo, getting root, installing CWM via Odin, adding launcherpro. I know I did SOMETHING right because my boot animation changed, touchwiz was gone, the bloat was gone, and I have root. but thats all I know that I did........
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this is wierd to me though. because when i first got the phone I thought I had done all that already. I followed the tutorial in the OP but this was in november and it was much different then. what that tutorial accomplished was getting rid of bloat, adding voodoo, getting root, installing CWM via Odin, adding launcherpro. I know I did SOMETHING right because my boot animation changed, touchwiz was gone, the bloat was gone, and I have root. but thats all I know that I did........
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If you heard the robotic android lady during install, then you have ext4 file system enabled (aka voodoo). If you don't remember, you can use voodoo control from the market to check if you have etx4 lagfix enabled. If you can't install this, your kernel isn't compatible. I recommend imnuts' PB&J kernels here. Stick with sv (stock voltage) if you aren't familiar with undervolting/overclocking.
http://sites.google.com/a/imnuts.net/android/kernels
If you are on the stock kernel, that can sometimes overwrite CWM. You have to boot directly into CWM after Odin to avoid it. Make your backups and flash ComRom then. Then CWM will stay, and you will have a ROM installed... with Voodoo nonetheless.
You can also get an ODIN package for a ROM. Look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048380 and get one of the Community Rom ones that wipes data. Make your Titanium,etc. backups, and then Odin that. Then update to the latest ComRom, and make sure to always wipe data, cache, and dalvik. That could be easier for you to do if you are fine with Odin.
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If you heard the robotic android lady during install, then you have ext4 file system enabled (aka voodoo). If you don't remember, you can use voodoo control from the market to check if you have etx4 lagfix enabled. If you can't install this, your kernel isn't compatible. I recommend imnuts' PB&J kernels here. Stick with sv (stock voltage) if you aren't familiar with undervolting/overclocking.
http://sites.google.com/a/imnuts.net/android/kernels
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yes i definitely heard that lady. so i have voodoo. but i dont have CWM??
so does that mean i can start from step one in the original post that jptech posted in this thread?
thanx guys for your help. i know im probably being a little difficult. i just dont want to screw up my phone.
Personally, no offense.. but it seems that you are having issues with CMW. I too had a disappearing CWM. The easiest route would be to backup what you can with Titanium, Google, etc. Then, use one of the all-in-one Odin ROM packages that I posted. Download one that wipes data, and you will start fresh with ComRom, a new kernel, and CWM. From there, feel free to flash another ROM from CWM. Just remember to wipe in between ROMs, and you'll be fine. Really though, it is very hard to "mess up" a Fascinate. As long as you don't corrupt the bootloader or flash a ROM for another phone, you can always ODIN.
Just a tip: I use the Amazon App Store, and it stores the apps that I have online (just without my data). It is really easy to reinstall things that way, but Titainum is great too. It can store your app's data which is really a nice feature.
Also, remember that it is fine to ask questions (it is the Q and A section). I respect that you are trying to be careful. Everyone starts somewhere.
Hello - I didn't like the updates I heard about in the factory 2.3.6 ROM update, so I skipped it. And, I'm rooted.
So, a few questions:
Can I upgrade directly from 2.3.4 to ICS from a rooted phone? Or do I need to step-up to 2.3.6 first?
Do I need to actually unroot before I do any of this?
Can I re-root once I go ICS?
I've heard that the best bet is to do a factory reset after upgrading to ICS. If I do this, is the best bet to do a Titanium Backup app & data backup/restore process? Are there any better solutions to capture all my data that I'd lose with a reset?
Any info/insights greatly appreciated. Note: I have searched far and wide on XDA for answers to these questions, but I could not find any direct answers that made me feel confident enough to move forward. So, any direct response appreciated.
Thx.
Jon
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Hello - I didn't like the updates I heard about in the factory 2.3.6 ROM update, so I skipped it. And, I'm rooted.
So, a few questions:
Can I upgrade directly from 2.3.4 to ICS from a rooted phone? Or do I need to step-up to 2.3.6 first?
Do I need to actually unroot before I do any of this?
Can I re-root once I go ICS?
I've heard that the best bet is to do a factory reset after upgrading to ICS. If I do this, is the best bet to do a Titanium Backup app & data backup/restore process? Are there any better solutions to capture all my data that I'd lose with a reset?
Any info/insights greatly appreciated. Note: I have searched far and wide on XDA for answers to these questions, but I could not find any direct answers that made me feel confident enough to move forward. So, any direct response appreciated.
Thx.
Jon
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1. yes, you can upgrade straight from 2.3.4 I've done it.
2. you don't need to unroot before - the upgrade will unroot you.
3. your best bet is NOT TO FACTORY RESET AFTER UPGRADE - IT COULD BRICK YOU BECAUSE OF A KNOWN BUG IN FACTORY KERNEL
4. If you want rooted version of upgrade look for the odin.heimdall version the Creepyncrawly put in the development section.
or you could try Semi UCLE5 that i have linked in the signature. It looks like the stock upgrade but it is smoother, among other things.
Good luck!
Jon first of all, you can always upgrade to any new update regardless of your Android version so it's a Yes to your first question. Secondly, whenever you update to a stock ROM your device gets unrooted itself so you'll have to root it again.
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Jack Man & uetfreak - thanks! Great feedback.
A couple follow-on questions for Jack Man:
I've read about the kernel bug, but THANK YOU for reminding me that it would affect a simple factory reset. Yeesh, that's a pretty serious bug when a standard reset could brick a phone. So, one remedy, as you say, is to go with UCLE5. Smoother sounds ideal to me (I've heard that ICS on GS2 is a bit jittery on the homescreens, which totally stinks). But if I go with OCLE5, that's a custom ROM so that means I'll lose the ability to do the OEM upgrade to keep all my apps & data intact, correct?
If that's correct, what's the best way to ensure all my settings, contacts, apps, data can be easily restored on a wiped phone? I have Titanium Backup + Root. I assume I'd keep root with OCLE5? And would I just run a TB restore on apps & data (and not system settings)? Are there any system settings I can backup/restore safely between ROMs/OS versions?
I've never flashed a custom ROM so I don't know how y'all keep all your stuff intact as you switch around!
Thx.
Jon
JonDeutsch said:
Jack Man & uetfreak - thanks! Great feedback.
A couple follow-on questions for Jack Man:
I've read about the kernel bug, but THANK YOU for reminding me that it would affect a simple factory reset. Yeesh, that's a pretty serious bug when a standard reset could brick a phone. So, one remedy, as you say, is to go with UCLE5. Smoother sounds ideal to me (I've heard that ICS on GS2 is a bit jittery on the homescreens, which totally stinks). But if I go with OCLE5, that's a custom ROM so that means I'll lose the ability to do the OEM upgrade to keep all my apps & data intact, correct?
If that's correct, what's the best way to ensure all my settings, contacts, apps, data can be easily restored on a wiped phone? I have Titanium Backup + Root. I assume I'd keep root with OCLE5? And would I just run a TB restore on apps & data (and not system settings)? Are there any system settings I can backup/restore safely between ROMs/OS versions?
I've never flashed a custom ROM so I don't know how y'all keep all your stuff intact as you switch around!
Thx.
Jon
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Well, first, since you have never flashed a custom rom I would suggest reading until you're sick of reading before flashing. It will pay off in the long run. Regarding flashing from 2.3.4 up to Custom UCLE5 and keeping all of your apps and contacts - I'm not sure how that would go, honestly. For me, my contacts and calendar are saved on my computer through MSOutlook and I sync them with MyPhoneExplorer without any problems. Most of the apps I use (which is not a lot at all) I don't bother backing up when I flash roms and wipe data clean. I have backed up some in the past with Titanium Backup (pro version is worth it), but only if I know absolutely that I need the data from them. Otherwise, I have just done fresh installs of apps because I have read so much about people having ROM issues from restoring apps with titanium.
About losing the ability to do the OEM upgrade - If you ever want to you can, it'll just take time, and yes, you would have to wipe data anyway to go back to 2.3.4 then use KIES. Kind of a pain if you ask me. Plus, ask anyone here on custom stuff - once you go with a custom ROM, you won't want to go back to stock - EVER.
Hope this helps. feel free to pm me if you need. I'll be on the road for the next few days. remember - READ as much as you can. start with the "stickies" in the top of the main thread with a little pin on the left.
p.s. one more thing. Get yourself a usb jig. it's only a few buck online. once you start flashing roms you may want to try other ones. If you make a mistake somewhere, a jig can get you out of a jam quick.
Make sure to factory reset after. Ive read many problems with notifications messing up until the reset was done. I've done it no problems. On two seperate s2 i777s. Its always best to do this after a big update to the next version
j510 said:
Make sure to factory reset after. Ive read many problems with notifications messing up until the reset was done. I've done it no problems. On two seperate s2 i777s. Its always best to do this after a big update to the next version
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Good idea. I do resets if I come from gingerbread too. But I know with this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948) you have to make sure you have the kernel that is based off of the stock kernel - AJ's kernel to safely factory reset. I think you will get a boot loop if you factory reset with the Siyah installed. I could be wrong, but I remember getting a boot loop on mine when I had siyah installed. Maybe it was because i did a reset from settings/back up and reset/factory reset and then formatted the sd card (since I had so much useless crap on there, luckily backed up on my pc).
j510 said:
Make sure to factory reset after. Ive read many problems with notifications messing up until the reset was done. I've done it no problems. On two seperate s2 i777s. Its always best to do this after a big update to the next version
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You're kidding right? No do not tell him to factory reset with the stock kernel. If his phone has the big he could burn out his emmc chip. Then he would need to pay mobile tech videos to jtag it.
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you have to flash iOS on your phone first before you can upgrade to cupcake, immediately update to donut before rebooting, then you have to go through eclair, froyo, and you will find yourself at gingerbread. DO NOT REBOOT AFTER FLASHING GINGERBREAD!! you have to flash ICS during the shutdown process....if you miss your cue, you will have to start all over
Hello everyone,
Well might as well say hi. I'm Ryukouki. I use this handle on a lot of forums, so if this is familiar you most likely know me elsewhere. So, anywho! I purchased a VZW Samsung Galaxy S4 two weeks ago, and I'm really curious. I rooted my phone, installed Clockwork Mod and backed up my data (I THINK) and I'm looking into ROMs for the Galaxy S4. What is the best mod for speed and performance, with good ease of use, and does not require a data wipe on installation? And is there a tutorial to go about doing this? I'm kind of new to the whole smartphone thing (used a feature phone for seven years!!), but I'm not too afraid to try new things out.
Ryukouki said:
Hello everyone,
Well might as well say hi. I'm Ryukouki. I use this handle on a lot of forums, so if this is familiar you most likely know me elsewhere. So, anywho! I purchased a VZW Samsung Galaxy S4 two weeks ago, and I'm really curious. I rooted my phone, installed Clockwork Mod and backed up my data (I THINK) and I'm looking into ROMs for the Galaxy S4. What is the best mod for speed and performance, with good ease of use, and does not require a data wipe on installation? And is there a tutorial to go about doing this? I'm kind of new to the whole smartphone thing (used a feature phone for seven years!!), but I'm not too afraid to try new things out.
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No ROMs 'require' a data wipe per se. You may, however, run into problems with any ROM if you don't completely wipe data when installing (especially the first time you go from stock to a ROM).
Why are you so afraid of wiping data? You could very easily download a few backup apps and have everything back up and running in 20 minutes.
trebb said:
No ROMs 'require' a data wipe per se. You may, however, run into problems with any ROM if you don't completely wipe data when installing (especially the first time you go from stock to a ROM).
Why are you so afraid of wiping data? You could very easily download a few backup apps and have everything back up and running in 20 minutes.
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I assume that this requires backup to my SD card though? And can you explain how I go about doing this? Do I just pick up things like App Restore and Backup (I think it's the other way around...) and then backup and restore? I don't want to screw this up, because I have a few apps where I've dumped a couple hundred dollars into and if I delete it or wipe it, I lose all the data, and I for sure as hell don't wanna do that!
You are rooted, so grab Titanium Backup, and use it. Just don't backup up system data. App data is fine (at least it always has been on AT&T).
I haven't seen a ROM yet that is stable enough to flash, IMHO. Give it a couple of weeks. I ran AOKP on my GS2 for a long time, and am looking forward to it here.
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If I was you man , I wouldnt never install a rom without a full wipe. That will keep you from running into problems. I know that from experience. Like Sbreen say, no wipe , no gripe
DroidHead214 said:
If I was you man , I wouldnt never install a rom without a full wipe. That will keep you from running into problems. I know that from experience. Like Sbreen say, no wipe , no gripe
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Very well then, I guess a wipe it is.
Now, let me get this straight. I rooted my phone. I have TWRP Custom Recovery on my phone, and I have backed up the thing in the recovery menu to my micro SD card. I also Titanium Backup'd my system with apps and whatnot. So when I decide to flash my phone to a new ROM, I'd first wipe the data, factory reset, and wipe the dalvik cache, then flash it, do the setup garbage, and then from there, redownload Titanium Backup and restore whatever I want to restore, correct?
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Very well then, I guess a wipe it is.
Now, let me get this straight. I rooted my phone. I have TWRP Custom Recovery on my phone, and I have backed up the thing in the recovery menu to my micro SD card. I also Titanium Backup'd my system with apps and whatnot. So when I decide to flash my phone to a new ROM, I'd first wipe the data, factory reset, and wipe the dalvik cache, then flash it, do the setup garbage, and then from there, redownload Titanium Backup and restore whatever I want to restore, correct?
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You got it! However the "factory reset" option in TWRP actually wipes data/cache/dalvik, I believe. (It tells you at the top of the screen what its going to wipe) Once you got your new rom you're all set to start restoring your apps with TB and enjoy the smoothness. After the setup process when your phone goes to the home screen, it's a good idea to let it sit for 5 to 10 minutes. (some developers advise this)
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You got it! However, the "factory reset" option in TWRP actually wipes data/cache/dalvik I believe. (It tells you at the top of the screen what its going to wipe) Once you got your new rom you're all set to start restoring your apps with TB and enjoying the smoothness
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I'll try it either tomorrow...or, later in the week if my courage decides to run away. Now, in the worst case scenario, let's say I completely screw up and get stuck with a bootloop or, I just completely hate the ROM itself. To restore to my current configuration do I just go back to TWRP and hit restore, and it basically reverts itself? I'm so sorry if I'm asking really stupid questions, I just REALLY want to do it right, and not have any hassles whatsoever. I am extremely careful and I really want to feel comfortable doing this.
Some guides I see mentioned backing up the IMEI information on the phone. Do I really need to do that, or is that all automated and I shouldn't run into issues? And is there a GApps.zip file thingy that I need to download for the "stock" applications? But wait a second, TB should take care of all of that correct?
Ryukouki said:
I'll try it either tomorrow...or, later in the week if my courage decides to run away. Now, in the worst case scenario, let's say I completely screw up and get stuck with a bootloop or, I just completely hate the ROM itself. To restore to my current configuration do I just go back to TWRP and hit restore, and it basically reverts itself? I'm so sorry if I'm asking really stupid questions, I just REALLY want to do it right, and not have any hassles whatsoever. I am extremely careful and I really want to feel comfortable doing this.
Some guides I see mentioned backing up the IMEI information on the phone. Do I really need to do that, or is that all automated and I shouldn't run into issues? And is there a GApps.zip file thingy that I need to download for the "stock" applications? But wait a second, TB should take care of all of that correct?
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Yes, if your phone goes into a bootloop or you absolutely hate the rom, then pull the battery and boot into recovery. (If you just hate the rom no need to pull battery just power off)Make sure you have a backup of your system created within TWRP with the "backup" option. If you have a backup in TWRP you would just hit the "Restore" button and find your system backup and wait for it to restore. I've never heard anything about backing up IMEI info, you will probably not run into any issues. I've flashed tons and tons of roms on numerous devices and have NEVER had to do any of that. Gapps (google apps) are ONLY needed when you're going to run an AOSP rom. That means when the rom doesn't have the touchwiz skin over top of it. AOSP roms are pure vanilla android and have zero touchwiz features. You can find the touchwiz based roms in the "Android development" section while the AOSP roms are found in the "Original development" section. Also, it's fine to ask questions. That's how you learn!
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Yes, if your phone goes into a bootloop or you absolutely hate the rom, then pull the battery and boot into recovery. (If you just hate the rom no need to pull battery just power off)Make sure you have a backup of your system created within TWRP with the "backup" option. If you have a backup in TWRP you would just hit the "Restore" button and find your system backup and wait for it to restore. I've never heard anything about backing up IMEI info, you will probably not run into any issues. I've flashed tons and tons of roms on numerous devices and have NEVER had to do any of that. Gapps (google apps) are ONLY needed when you're going to run an AOSP rom. That means when the rom doesn't have the touchwiz skin over top of it. AOSP roms are pure vanilla android and have zero touchwiz features. You can find the touchwiz based roms in the "Android development" section while the AOSP roms are found in the "Original development" section. Also, it's fine to ask questions. That's how you learn!
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Awesome. Phew, I was like what why do I need to backup my IMEI information? I'm planning on installing Hyperdrive, is that a touchwiz based rom by any chance? And hah, yeah I know, I usually have really meticulous instructions for myself when I flash video game consoles, so I know the routine like the back of my hand.
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Awesome. Phew, I was like what why do I need to backup my IMEI information? I'm planning on installing Hyperdrive, is that a touchwiz based rom by any chance? And hah, yeah I know, I usually have really meticulous instructions for myself when I flash video game consoles, so I know the routine like the back of my hand.
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Yes, Hyperdrive is a touchwiz based rom! The file is going to be a little over a 1gig, and already includes all of the apps you'll need.(Don't flash Gaaps) I'm heading off XDA for the night if you have anymore questions/concerns feel free to PM me and I'll try to help
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Yes, Hyperdrive is a touchwiz based rom! The file is going to be a little over a 1gig, and already includes all of the apps you'll need.(Don't flash Gaaps) I'm heading off XDA for the night if you have anymore questions/concerns feel free to PM me and I'll try to help
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Oh good! And at least my internet is reasonable now, so 1GB shouldn't be too bad. ;D I should head off too, its a bit late over here. Thanks for your help, you've answered a lot of my concerns!
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