Im new to this device and have some problems, I thought removing stock might help, so I've started using Leeroid newest rom but the problems are still there....
- The battery drains quickly, there are on average about 80 task running in background. My last ZTE phone had on average 17 tasks in background. I think this is all because of sense...how do I stop this awfull battery guzzler...?
- I cant find the wifi sleep in standby option, closest thing is the 15 minute shut off option, not good enough... where is the wifi sleep in standby option?
- 3D pictures I take with Amaze Camera are out of sync and shadowing when I look at them in gallery, what am I doing wrong? The stock rom had no problems...
- The battery needs about 2,5 hours for a full charge, my zte skate did a full charge in about 45 minutes...
- The screen 960x540 is good, but everything is tiny specialy the text, how can I increase the text dpi to make the text bigger? In windows I can increase dpi in screen settings, is that available here?
Look up density changer on the market. It will make your text bigger.
Why not just turn wifi off when you are not using it?
The battery in this phone does take a lot longer to charge compared to my EVO. I dunno why though.
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Thanks, dpi changer was a good tip, I've increased from standard 240 dpi to 280. That's much easier on my eyes.
There is a wifi off in standby option on all android phones I've used, why doesn't sense have one?
I took the phone off charge a little over an hour ago and I'm already down to 83% just by having sense running with wifi and about 80 task in the background....I'm going to have to get rid of sense, it's ****e...
I need a stock android rom with no sense, I don't need any of the sense stuff...
iconias said:
Thanks, dpi changer was a good tip, I've increased from standard 240 dpi to 280. That's much easier on my eyes.
There is a wifi off in standby option on all android phones I've used, why doesn't sense have one?
I took the phone off charge a little over an hour ago and I'm already down to 83% just by having sense running with wifi and about 80 task in the background....I'm going to have to get rid of sense, it's ****e...
I need a stock android rom with no sense, I don't need any of the sense stuff...
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woah dont blame sense because i easily can get 15 hours off my battery and i have never had close to 80 app in background thats unheard of sense dosent have that many apps in the background i just checked there was actually nothing from sense in there check what apps you have installed and last i checked wi-fi saved battery
iconias said:
Thanks, dpi changer was a good tip, I've increased from standard 240 dpi to 280. That's much easier on my eyes.
There is a wifi off in standby option on all android phones I've used, why doesn't sense have one?
I took the phone off charge a little over an hour ago and I'm already down to 83% just by having sense running with wifi and about 80 task in the background....I'm going to have to get rid of sense, it's ****e...
I need a stock android rom with no sense, I don't need any of the sense stuff...
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You should download the free juicedefender or purchase juicedefender ultimate from the market. In there you can tweak settings to disable wifi + data on screen off, as well as many other things. I'd strongly recommend it.
iconias said:
Thanks, dpi changer was a good tip, I've increased from standard 240 dpi to 280. That's much easier on my eyes.
There is a wifi off in standby option on all android phones I've used, why doesn't sense have one?
I took the phone off charge a little over an hour ago and I'm already down to 83% just by having sense running with wifi and about 80 task in the background....I'm going to have to get rid of sense, it's ****e...
I need a stock android rom with no sense, I don't need any of the sense stuff...
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you most deff have a rogue app there chewing your battery down big time. When you say you have 80 tasks running in the background, how are you checking this exactly?
JuiceDefender is not really needed for task killing as android has improved huge in this area and manages things very well. Most of the time users have things like facebook and such set to sync automatically and then claim gains with JD when they block facebook(and others) from syncing except for only X times a day, which 99% time is an option to set in the actual app in question itself anyway.
SystemPanelPro is one of my favorite apps as I run the monitor service in it to better get a pure objective opinion on battery usage as it shows you exactly which things are eating away at the battery right down to the process itself.
You can have 500 tasks in the background and not have any battery drain. Apps are cached and dormant in the background , saving CPU cycles to reopen it and thus actually saving battery. You could be seeing way more apps cached than your old ZTE, because, well, the 3D has way more ram!
Usually its one app thats draining your battery , and most of the time its apps that have push notifications that are not from Google or have a ridiculous default poll time (Like tweetcaster checking tweets every 5 minutes and words with friends checking for new moves every 5 minutes as well). Go through your apps and check poll times.
Wifi should be on if you have access to a good connection, even when the screen turns off. Whenever you turn your screen on, your wifi chip has to wake up, scan, handshake, connect, and restablish connection with all your apps and services... Costs a TON of battery, especially if you are always turning on your screen even to check the time.
And Sense 3.0 roms have the reputation of being very good on the battery, better than any AOSP rom by far.. especially the latest official rom and radio update.. people have nothing but praise about battery life.
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iconias said:
Im new to this device and have some problems, I thought removing stock might help, so I've started using Leeroid newest rom but the problems are still there....
- The battery drains quickly, there are on average about 80 task running in background. My last ZTE phone had on average 17 tasks in background. I think this is all because of sense...how do I stop this awfull battery guzzler...?
- I cant find the wifi sleep in standby option, closest thing is the 15 minute shut off option, not good enough... where is the wifi sleep in standby option?
- 3D pictures I take with Amaze Camera are out of sync and shadowing when I look at them in gallery, what am I doing wrong? The stock rom had no problems...
- The battery needs about 2,5 hours for a full charge, my zte skate did a full charge in about 45 minutes...
- The screen 960x540 is good, but everything is tiny specialy the text, how can I increase the text dpi to make the text bigger? In windows I can increase dpi in screen settings, is that available here?
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-Phone has big battery 1730mAh I think. Your old one was 1420mAh (about 20% smaller) at most that is why it takes longer.
-Usually if my 3D get out of sync (don't know why) I reboot and the problem goes away.
-Use SpareParts+ for Wifi sleep
Phone doesn't charge all that fast because while charging the phone doesn't sleep.
I'll try the wifi off in standby with spare parts plus, thanks for the tip..
Actualy the 3D pictures were fine afer a reboot like you said.
Leeroid was eating up my battery so I'm trying the king cobra rom. Not sure it's placebo, the battery indicator hasn't been going down so fast in cobra...
There's a stock android rom without any trace of sense here in the forum somewhere. I might try that too
I use quick system info, when I clear memory it say I have on average 80 tasks running, after an hour I do the same and again it closes 50 tasks!! I have the same apps I had running on my skate so that is why I know sense's the coulprit.
When I wipred the memory with quick info on my skate with cm7 I only had on average 17 tasks closed...
iconias said:
I'll try the wifi off in standby with spare parts plus, thanks for the tip..
Actualy the 3D pictures were fine afer a reboot like you said.
Leeroid was eating up my battery so I'm trying the king cobra rom. Not sure it's placebo, the battery indicator hasn't been going down so fast in cobra...
There's a stock android rom without any trace of sense here in the forum somewhere. I might try that too
I use quick system info, when I clear memory it say I have on average 80 tasks running, after an hour I do the same and again it closes 50 tasks!! I have the same apps I had running on my skate so that is why I know sense's the coulprit.
When I wipred the memory with quick info on my skate with cm7 I only had on average 17 tasks closed...
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Sense has a lot of "processes" running but they are not "killing" the battery like you described.
Also like the other poster said, if your in WiFi area leave it ON ALL THE TIME when you can connect to it. its much better than having the radio on 3G all the time, and also if you only have it sleeping in standby like they said you kill the battery everytime you wake the phone up b/c itll try to connect agian as opposed to being connected to it all the time.
I'd look at getting SystemPanelPro and turn on monitoring. its very valuable in the long run as it is not a task killer but also allows you to catch rogue apps if you ever do have questions about battery. Anytime I have battery questions I just turn the monitoring service back on in it and then check the phone at the end of the day to see if there were any apps stuck hogging data or something like that.
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Phone doesn't charge all that fast because while charging the phone doesn't sleep.
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you hit it on the head.... why doesnt the phone sleep in standby? sense?
I've been using stock android with no eye candy for over a year...screen goes out, phone shuts down into standby for 10 days no probs...
iconias said:
you hit it on the head.... why doesnt the phone sleep in standby? sense?
I've been using stock android with no eye candy for over a year...screen goes out, phone shuts down into standby for 10 days no probs...
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As stated before it does sleep and does so fine. you have a rogue app or something else killing the battery like poor signal. I can put the phone in standby and last forever sleeps fine.
you have something likely set to sync often thats killing it in the way you describe.
It is not Sense. I have only ever had HTC Sense phones, and all of them had better battery life then AOSP ROMs, unless the AOSP ROM had almost everything removed and I went anal about data usage. As everyone else has stated, especially with this new OTA, it is a rogue app. Check all your games and apps that use data. I have 19 hours up, 11 hours awake, with roughly 8 hours of those in use and I still have 40 percent battery left. Not to mention I have 14 current running processes and 46 cached apps. HTC did an amazing job with this update, please don't blame them. Listen to those of us who have been using Sense since the Sprint Hero and check your app's!
EDIT: Not cached apps, but cached processes.
To save a little battery, you can go to mobile network settings and uncheck mobile network always on.
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It is not Sense. I have only ever had HTC Sense phones, and all of them had better battery life then AOSP ROMs, unless the AOSP ROM had almost everything removed and I went anal about data usage. As everyone else has stated, especially with this new OTA, it is a rogue app. Check all your games and apps that use data. I have 19 hours up, 11 hours awake, with roughly 8 hours of those in use and I still have 40 percent battery left. Not to mention I have 14 current running processes and 46 cached apps. HTC did an amazing job with this update, please don't blame them. Listen to those of us who have been using Sense since the Sprint Hero and check your app's!
EDIT: Not cached apps, but cached processes.
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Wait what? How long was your screen on for? If you meant screen on for 8 hours your speaking bull****. leaving the screen on lowest brightness and no sim card or mobile network on the phones battery only lasts 6 hours. (ive tried this...)
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Wait what? How long was your screen on for? If you meant screen on for 8 hours your speaking bull****. leaving the screen on lowest brightness and no sim card or mobile network on the phones battery only lasts 6 hours. (ive tried this...)
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I didn't say the screen was on. I consider downloading full seasons of the Desperate Housewives over WiFi with the screen off "in use." My screen was on for a decent 3 hours today, while downloading the show and doing plenty of other useless things I have already plugged my phone up for the night, so any info I get now will be tampered. But tomorrow I will get some screenies. I wish I could use it with the screen on for 8 hours. I would kiss HTCs feet LOL.
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I figured I'd make this its own thread after speaking with several people with the same problems using a CMOD 5.0.5.3+ rom. This wasn't a problem in lower editions from what I can remember in testing.
Idk but I believe it is something in the kernel affecting this problem with the display hogging my battery. Even after flashing an undervolted kernel I still can only last 24 hours with an extended life battery, vs a weeks time before. And the display problem has been like this in all CMODS test .6 Roms as well so idk if it is in the process of getting fixed or simply overlooked. And other Rome work well but are slower it seams.
The display settings doesn't matter auto or manual its about the same. So devs what can we do to find the change or what can I do to help?
-charlie
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I figured I'd make this its own thread after speaking with several people with the same problems using a CMOD 5.0.5.3+ rom. This wasn't a problem in lower editions from what I can remember in testing.
Idk but I believe it is something in the kernel affecting this problem with the display hogging my battery. Even after flashing an undervolted kernel I still can only last 24 hours with an extended life battery, vs a weeks time before. And the display problem has been like this in all CMODS test .6 Roms as well so idk if it is in the process of getting fixed or simply overlooked. And other Rome work well but are slower it seams.
The display settings doesn't matter auto or manual its about the same. So devs what can we do to find the change or what can I do to help?
-charlie
Pictures in the morning of drain when I'm at the computer
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I'm running test 3 of 5.0.6. Today i read a book with fbreader for around 2hrs on it whilst on the train, had 2 30 minute phone conversations, around 20 texts, a dozen gtalk messages, and played blackjack for about 20 mins. i'm also using pershoots OCUV kernal, and after 11hrs without being plugged in I am at 75% battery. I'm happy with that.
I think it is a work in progress, as each new build comes out it's better. His testing builds are just that - testing. None of his release builds I have ever had an issue with either, although maybe my phone ue is a lot less than others I dunno. All i can say is i've never been tempted with another rom since early days on my magic phone Cyanogen rocks!
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I'm running test 3 of 5.0.6. Today i read a book with fbreader for around 2hrs on it whilst on the train, had 2 30 minute phone conversations, around 20 texts, a dozen gtalk messages, and played blackjack for about 20 mins. i'm also using pershoots OCUV kernal, and after 11hrs without being plugged in I am at 75% battery. I'm happy with that.
I think it is a work in progress, as each new build comes out it's better. His testing builds are just that - testing. None of his release builds I have ever had an issue with either, although maybe my phone ue is a lot less than others I dunno. All i can say is i've never been tempted with another rom since early days on my magic phone Cyanogen rocks!
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That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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A week? My Nexus couldn't get more than two days or so brand new... Also, what LCD?
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That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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Nope, I have it on auto-detect, so quite bright when on the train and outdoors. I have setCPU (market, paid) running and set battery profiles - although I haven't hit them yet. I have it set to max 1.1ghz 100% to 50%, 998mhz from 50% to 40%, 776mhz from 40% to 30%, and under 30% to 500 and something.
I do use an app called autostarts (market, paid) and have set everything but system services/apps to not run on any kind of state change or startup. I use Advanced Task Killer to kill apps as soon as I finish with them.
But i've had all these for ages, I just think a big improvement on the last release test 3
Nandroid your existing and try out test3.
I've been experiencing the same symptoms with my battery usage generally dominated by the display. I'm using a UV kernel currently (intersectravens) so we will see if the same happens.
KingKlicks's DESIRE rom doesnt have the same problem it seems and the battery usage is much better.
Wondering if there is a underlying issue.
after .6 test 3 the battery has improved decently, still the display is hogging battery life more so than in the sense rom
Same thing here... Display totally kills the battery with CM5.0.5.3 and OC/UV kernel. Phone rarely lasts over a day with moderate to low usage...
Without usage I can barely get a days use :s
I get the impression that its not the display. I can have 50% display usage, sleep my phone while playing a MP3 and then have more than 50% usage... suggesting that its either he display+something in one category , or there is a bug.
The stock ROM always showed display at the highest usage also. I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, but remember that those numbers are all relative.
I'll say this: I charge nightly to prevent my battery "deep cycling"....That being said I un-plug at 8am and plug-in at about 11p-12a, I use my phone a TON.....usually when I plug in I have about 45-55%.....Not bad at all.....
I originally thought display being the main battery hog was a bad thing.....Then I thought about it a bit......
Would you rather the "system" use more batt? Cell Stand by?
Display (by all rights) should use most battery. More usage=Less time with a fully charged battery.....
Im using CM 5.0.5.3 and I switched Roms after using the stock for 3 months. As soon as I moved to CM I immediatly noticed the battery life was lower than before. I hope you find an issue to this problem ASAP.......I love your ROMs CM, but I love my battery life even more
Good luck with this !!
"display" = gpu acceleration and actual amoled power
Something else i just noticed, very odd. I had 41% display and 23% spotify.... i had been playing for music for a while (offline only). When i quit the spotify app... the entry from the battery usage vanished and display took a spike to 65% ish... really odd. Almost display is showing usage for a group of things.
What? How ? I get 6 hours maybe 7 if I'm lucky out of my battery.... even b4 my nexus was rooted ... how r u guys gettin 24
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What? How ? I get 6 hours maybe 7 if I'm lucky out of my battery.... even b4 my nexus was rooted ... how r u guys gettin 24
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Ignore any figures people quote - battery life is always relative. One persons 'usual' usage is different than yours. A friend of mine brings his N1 to works and it sits on his desk syncing email - he gets 1 full day.
I bring mine, sync 2 accounts, play a lot of podcasts, have a RSS syncer going and use twitter and FB loads, i get a LOT less.
Dont worry to much, your usage figures are pretty normal depending on your usage patterns.
They say your mileage may vary for a reason
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My Battery life has always sucked. Maybe I should buy a new Battery?
If I take my phone off the charger at 7:30, and don't plug it in all day, then I will be at about 30% or less by the time I get home at around 5:30. Unless I don't use it. But I use my phone to play stream music pretty much all day. Or at least 4 hours. One day I forgot my USB cable and I was below 20% by 3:00.
It is still better than iSuck, I mean iPhone, and worse than a BlackBerry. I have electricity everywhere though, a car charger, and an extra battery is like 25$?
So what is the big deal? You have the equivalent of a desktop computer from like 2002 in your pocked running off of a batter the size of a credit card, how long do you really want the thing to last anyway?
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For those of you that have Battery Monitor Widget installed, what kind of average usage are you seeing with the phone idle, screen off?
On my old Desire it'd sit at something around low double digits, 10mA or so idle with the screen off...
On my new shiny SGSII it's at about 180mA odd, which may explain why I struggle to get a days usage out of it. I've tried different ROMs (stock rooted, lite'ning, currently on villain 2.4.2) and different modems (currently KG6) and have used Ti to freeze all of the samsung bloatware without any improvement...
What kinds of values are others seeing?
Thanks
Jon
in idle , i get average of 50-60mA .. but after 3,4 hours of idle , i can get it as low as 9-10mA .. running on sensation rom 1.4 .. in normal use , it will hike from 100+ma to 400mA ..
it's actually a bit higher than my last desire HD. which in idle can get as low as 4-5 mA .. i guess that's all depend on the kernel ..
seeing at your idle usage about 180mA, that's definitely have something wrong somewhere. gotta find what apps draining the battery
Just did a test while I was down the gym - with mobile data off, but streaming music to a bluetooth headset, it was down to 60-80mA. Turn it back on and it's gone back up again...
Gtalk is frozen, Latitude isn't signed in... Nothing obvious shows up in Better Battyer Stats.. Other than removing apps one by one, any bright ideas as to how to work out which is the culprit?
I think i read that HTC phones actuality give true mah battery rates where on the S2 it is only get`s estimated.
I fully charged it last night, and left it alone overnight. Perfect signal (local picocell about 10 ft away), pretty much everything disabled, all user apps, samsung stuff frozen - only google apps unfrozen. Background data disabled, bluetooth, gps, wifi off.
After a few minutes, after a short while at 60mA odd it sat idling at about 9mA pretty much all night - used about 8% overnight. I re-enabled background sync, now sat on my desk at work with a reasonable 3G signal it's sat at about 60mA.
Time to start unfreezing apps and see what's draining it!
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Time to start unfreezing apps and see what's draining it!
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Install 'Better Battery Stats' for that.
Regards.
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Install 'Better Battery Stats' for that.
Regards.
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It's installed - I get a lot of events/0 and suspend listed in process, and not that many wakelocks listed...
I've just frozen the samsung email client (exchange) and the associated processes, and my usage has dropped from 60-100mA at idle to under 20 - looks like this may be the culprit!
Going to try unfreezing it and seeing if it goes back up again...
I gave up trying to freeze / unfreeze stuff - too much hassle.
So - did a factory reset this morning, so back to a totally fresh villain install. I even removed my 32G sd card in case that was causing issues..
Disabled automatic app re-installing, and have been slowly setting things back up while watching the juice usage.
Currently with touchwiz and all of the samsung crap frozen, no widgets running, my 2 gmail accounts and exchange activesync configured, and it's idling at about 50-60mA.
It's going to be a pretty drawn out process working out what's causing the drain
I have been messing around with system tuner app for a while now and I really like the program.
I would like to hear from people who have used this app and their results with various tweaks that this app provides.
in the boot settings menu:
1. forcing both CPU's online: this should technically give you a better battery life, since it puts less strain on on cpu at a time, has anyone had a good exprience using this?
2. Boost app loading: anyone had any significant improvement with this?
My own settings:
I usually clock my phone at 1.5 (on demand governor) even though faux's kernel allows 1.7 max. I put max clock for screen off at 384 and conservative governor.
I have Undervolted before but do not see a very significant battery difference so I just left it alone.
I tried out the autokill option of system tuner, I only tried to kill the ghost apps, to refrain from the cpu from having to keep restarting the phone, but this also seems to kill battery life...In my experience any type of task killer however detailed will reduce battery and does not increase performance, unless you're running a poorly written app that just needs to be killed.
I use three other programs to monitor my phone
1. system pannel: very good at finding rogue apps that kill cpu...I highly recommend the pro version, you can get a history of what has used cpu up to a week.
2. Onavo and My data manger which basically monitor my wifi and mobile traffic, Onavo only monitors mobile network traffic and lets you restrict apps to only wifi. however it does not measure wifi use of data. My data manager monitor both wifi and network usage but does not give you any options to do anything with the apps, it basically tells you what program is using data while on wifi and mobile.
If anyone has found a good balance between performance and battery saving, please do share.
Thank you.
I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
Felinos11 said:
I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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I have widget locker and havn't had that problem...I just flashed faux's latest kernel and am in the process of re calibrating my battery, it seemed to jump from 100 to 90 in about 10 minutes!!!!!! now I noticed that happening...but I havn't had time to fully replicate it...i need more time..I believe it might have something to do with fauxes kernel, he mentioned that when screen goes off he it puts the phone into a low power consumption mode, but also has something that when you turn it on, is quick to turn on!!! we'll have to wait and see.
If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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Felinos11 said:
I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
Felinos11 said:
is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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They have maybe a bit better battery life. I went back to stock.
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Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Data Connection, Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
heyodee said:
Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
seansk said:
well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
heyodee said:
Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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while you sleep, you won't be checking for emails will you? but you expect to wake and see emails received.... that is where it comes in handy. with apps like tasker, you can automate some of this activities. tasker + syncer should be a good combo for you.
seansk said:
well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
I've noticed the same type of activity when in Airplane mode. Extremely low power consumption - fantastic.
Is it possible maybe to undervolt the Wifi/BT/Mobile radios? Would that make any difference or am I off base here?
seansk said:
I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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You had something setup wrong then I think.. you can change how often in syncs while the screen is off, the default setting is for it to turn on data for 1 minute every 15 minutes. Most people don't need to know things so bad that they can't work with a 14 minute delay(at worst), and of couse the internet is on while screen is on, when you're actually using it.
I thought I would need to use juice defender, but since I switched to bulletproof, my usage last me an entire day. From 8am till 1am, usually with some to spare. The only tweak I made to cpu was to enable 192mhz, it isn't like there is a performance drop, but it did make a notable difference in battery life.
If I wanted to I could use juice defender to get more than one day out of it, and I keep a spare battery on me in case I really need to use the phone.. but haven't really needed it.
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
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How many apps have you installed?
I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
Thanks
I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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I've got a system...
I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
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this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
Ineffibilis GB
Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055OTNK4/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_3p_dp_1
Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.
Hey,
I could not find a thread like this via the search bar, so I am opening one up. How much battery does your stock S3 consume by just lying there? I am losing about ten percent overnight, which seems a bit too much for me. Is that normal?
Thanks!
Wait till you get about 70 percent discharge overnight then you'll have something to worry about.
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Wait till you get about 70 percent discharge overnight then you'll have something to worry about.
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thanks for the reply, but that's not really what i wanted to know...
If you searched or read the multiple battery threads then you would have found that yes it is normal .
All depends upon what running .
jje
At night I turn off wifi and data, my battery drops 3%, with data on and wifi off about 5% ( about 8 hours)
Based on reviews on the net it is possible to get it drop 6% in 16 hours with data and wifi on, not getting to this myself but happy enough.
roter$baron said:
Hey,
I could not find a thread like this via the search bar, so I am opening one up. How much battery does your stock S3 consume by just lying there? I am losing about ten percent overnight, which seems a bit too much for me. Is that normal?
Thanks!
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It is very normal for Stock rom to consume that much battery.. However you can save more battery by going into Wifi > advanced > Keepy wifi on during sleep > Select Only when plugged in... Plus disabling wake up commands such as the ones for S Voice, or Google Now can increase battery life upto a great extent.
Also try turning off location services for apps that you don't use that often or the ones that don't really require location services that much.
I had 10 to 15% drop the night, after installing Chrome (because of google sync issue)
but after removed it.. im back to 6-7%
Anyway Dolphin is better
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roter$baron said:
Hey,
I could not find a thread like this via the search bar, so I am opening one up. How much battery does your stock S3 consume by just lying there? I am losing about ten percent overnight, which seems a bit too much for me. Is that normal?
Thanks!
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I can only say from memory - a very clean S3 should get at most 2-3% discharge overnight (even with WiFi, data, BT and GPS started). That might no longer be achievable once you have a number of programs that interact and keep the CPU from staying into deep sleep.
Currently I am seeing at most 1-2% with my configuration - but that involves closing the 4 above before going to bed.(and to get to that point I had to drop a number of programs that were bad in this regard).
Do your own tests with that - look around after BetterBatteryStats.apk or something like that!
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I can only say from memory - a very clean S3 should get at most 2-3% discharge overnight (even with WiFi, data, BT and GPS started). That might no longer be achievable once you have a number of programs that interact and keep the CPU from staying into deep sleep.
Currently I am seeing at most 1-2% with my configuration - but that involves closing the 4 above before going to bed.(and to get to that point I had to drop a number of programs that were bad in this regard).
Do your own tests with that - look around after BetterBatteryStats.apk or something like that!
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Can I ask what your current configuration is?
I am currently running Omega v32.1 with the stock kernel.
I hardly use my phone during the day as I am at work for 12 hours, maybe send a few texts. 3g and sync are always on
I take it off charge at 5.30AM and when I get home at like 8PM it is down to less than 10%... and thats not even heavy use.
I have calibrated the battery using that batterycalibrate app for root users..