I just want to know if this is a general issue with the phone or if I have a hardware problem.
I got a replacement geeksquad refurbished phone and noticed something. After using the phone for things like internet browsing, reading, etc. for around half an hour, the top right of the phone starts to get hot. When doing intensive things like playing games, it will get hot much quicker (around 5-10 minutes). I noticed that on ICS ROMs like Evervolv, or ROMs with high CPU usage bugs, that area seems to get warm then hot really quickly (2-3 minutes of web browsing).
The battery never overheats. It's just the top right of the phone.
I can't seem to remember very well, but I don't think my older phone before the replacement suffered from this issue. The battery would get warm on that but it never got hot or anything.
So my questions are:
-Is this a general problem with all Evo 3Ds?
-Is this a hardware problem?
-What is located in the top right of the phone that could be overheating?
yousefak said:
I just want to know if this is a general issue with the phone or if I have a hardware problem.
I got a replacement geeksquad refurbished phone and noticed something. After using the phone for things like internet browsing, reading, etc. for around half an hour, the top right of the phone starts to get hot. When doing intensive things like playing games, it will get hot much quicker (around 5-10 minutes). I noticed that on ICS ROMs like Evervolv, or ROMs with high CPU usage bugs, that area seems to get warm then hot really quickly (2-3 minutes of web browsing).
The battery never overheats. It's just the top right of the phone.
I can't seem to remember very well, but I don't think my older phone before the replacement suffered from this issue. The battery would get warm on that but it never got hot or anything.
So my questions are:
-Is this a general problem with all Evo 3Ds?
-Is this a hardware problem?
-What is located in the top right of the phone that could be overheating?
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Getting warm alil bit is normal due to heat of your hand and so on use wise. But hot to the touch burnin your hand due to heat then your having some weird issues.
Phone shouldn't get hot that quick. You on a stock rom? I would throw stock back on with stock kernel toy with it see if it still gets warm..
reaper24 said:
Getting warm alil bit is normal due to heat of your hand and so on use wise. But hot to the touch like you can't touch due to heat then your having some weird issues.
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Its kind of in between warm and hot. Its not extremely hot but gets to very uncomfortable temperatures. Kind of like how the back feels when the battery is around 42°C.
I don't think its being affected by surroundings but since the problem is completely non-existent while outside in cold temperatures, that might be the case. It also gets hotter quicker while in hot environments. The reason I don't think this is the case is because its only that one spot. Also, I don't put my finger there often.
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reaper24 said:
Phone shouldn't get hot that quick. You on a stock rom? I would throw stock back on with stock kernel toy with it see if it still gets warm..
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For some reason I never thought of trying a stock ROM...
If it persists with these issues, which it probably will, I guess ill need a replacement.
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For some reason I never thought of trying a stock ROM...
If it persists with these issues, which it probably will, I guess ill need a replacement.
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Just mess with a stock one if it stills happens then it's a hardware issue..
Mine gets pretty hot there when I'm using 4g and wifi tether. Hasn't damaged my phone yet and I've been using the 4g/wifi almost everyday for about 2 months now.
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My SG2 seems to run quite hot when doing pretty much anything that requires the screen to stay on, particularly the upper half of the device. I notice the screen itself is quite warm too but according to SetCPU the CPU doesn't go above 38-40 degrees.
Also, it might be my imagination but it doesn't seem to cool down until I do a reboot, suggesting it might be a running service.
Anyone else having a similar issue?
So no one has an issue with their device running hot?
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Mine gets hot when i am gaming, or when its sat navving, but it cools down again once i stop doing whatever it was that was making it hot, but it does retain heat thus taking a while to cool.
The screen tends to get hot for me when i am using games/bright stuff, reading my book on there, black screen white text, it doesnt even get any warmer than it would from my hands.
The top gets warmer cos thats where the chips etc are (watch a teardown video, you will see the chips).
I've just noticed it getting quite a bit hotter than I would expect behind the camera (Not seen the breakdown, but I'm guessing thats where the CPU is) when I was playing a few games on it (Specifically Words with Friends and Angry Birds). Just wondering if this is normal in most peoples experience or if its going to burn the side of my leg off at some point?
It should be ok, i've gotten it to the point where touching the camera bit for extended periods of time would be very, very uncomfortable (think a hot, HOT bath) but that's only if you're doing something intensive, usually games.
Right, just been playing Gun Bros with it plugged into the charger, and not only did the battery drop while charging, but it was running at 50c and behind the camera is as hot as Sticks02 points out. Bit worrying really.
Mine still getting quite hot, and quite quickly when playing games. I notice the screen near the top is getting hot too, as well as the back near the camera. Anyone else's screen doing this?
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I posted something similar on the modaco website lastweek.
1. Phone gets hot (top half only)
2. Then low battery warning message
3. finally complete shutdown of the phone
Now the phone tends switch of randomly and it's not even hot. I have the latest firmware installed.
Also I thought I'd mention that I did get the battery hot message once then the phone again shut down.
I think this is a software issue rather then hardware, time will tell.
Never had the phone switch off or the battery run down fast. Just the heat for me.
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I noticed one person mentioning he had gotten a phone which got real warm but he turned it in and got another that ran cooler.
This is my number one concern because it us the reason I am in need if replacing my incredible.
How warm are your phones getting (such as when running 1x or a heavy game)? Please speak yo because I want to make sure I don't live through this again. Thanks
jdmba said:
I noticed one person mentioning he had gotten a phone which got real warm but he turned it in and got another that ran cooler.
This is my number one concern because it us the reason I am in need if replacing my incredible.
How warm are your phones getting (such as when running 1x or a heavy game)? Please speak yo because I want to make sure I don't live through this again. Thanks
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To answer your question, I was just streaming the Jets/Broncos game from NFL mobile, tethering 4G to my computer and downloading a file at 4 Mb/s, browsing the web on my device, and doing some heavy texting. Battery is fine, phone is a little warm, but not near as hot as my Inc got.
The only time I've noticed mine getting really hot is when I'm charging it.
mine gets warm when i'm using it for like 60 straight minutes in bed before i fall asleep. the hottest it's hit was 40 degrees c, which is JUST as hot as my incredible used to hit when i'd do the same exact thing. but it cools down SUPER fast when you stop using it and lay it down on a table or something. i'm not worried about it.
the main reason for a phone getting hot is antenna issues. if the antenna is struggling(communication wise), it'll cause it to work overtime in an attempt to pull in a decent signal... and by doing so, causes the battery to get really hot.
it can either be the phone or the area you are in has signal issues. I'm assuming its signal related since you mentioned 1X. next time you try a 'heavy game', put your phone in airplane mode and see how the temperature is then.
It is nowhere near as hot mutlitasking as the RAZR is sitting on the VZW shelf idling!
When I first got it and was setting everything up, it did get pretty dang hot.
It's a warm phone at times.
My DInc would get very hot if I used it while charging. It would eventually just shut down completely and I couldn't do much with it for a while. I returned it for one that didn't shutdown quite as often.
I haven't had much heat problems in the limited time since I've had my Rezound.
I noticed that when charging the DInc while talking on the phone, or using the Nav it would stay cooler if I removed the silicone case. That got me thinking. Silicone is a pretty good insulator. We use to make mitts to remove stuff from the oven.
How much of this overheating problem are we creating with silicone cases?
Is tpu the same as silicone, heat conducting wise? I only use tpu.
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I have used the Rezound and currently testing the Razr:
Rezound gets warmer due to nowhere for the heat to pipe out. The Razr pipes through the display to keep it from building up. The Rezound gets warmer, since not piping the heat out. I tested the Rezound with my 32gb card and after streaming Flash via 4G and playing N64Oid, the Rezound inside was HOT. Easily as hot or hotter than my Incredible would get with GPS on (that is toasty).
Both device get hot at some point, since 45nm LTE and both using dual core SoCs. The Rezound appears to get hotter, but this is more to do with nowhere for the heat to go.
We will be dealing with the heat and battery life issues until 28nm LTE chips are in devices mid next year (we can hope). The second gen chips should ease the current issues.
Note: The Rezound does not get anywhere near as warm when only using 3G. The 9600 LTE chip is a cookin' inside.
Which is my concern my dinc had severe thermal issues and bootloops once the radio overheats which is about ten seconds into a 1x session. It is simply horrible. I must get a new phone but am concerned about living though this again.
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man, you must've had a bad inc then. my inc NEVER got hot and bootlooped or shut off once in the 1.5 years i've had it.
After a little smooth talking to a vzw rep, I was sent a rezound in place of my Tbolt.
I love the phone and its speed but I noticed that the battery gets very hot when the screen is on. Coming from a Tbolt I can say that my phone never got over 36 degrees even when tethering for hours. The rezound gets to 38-40 from 1 hour of continuous use (screen on) but no tethering. I have the 3.7 battery. The same thing happens on custom rooms and stock.
Now, I read in tons of places that this phone gets hot but very few provide numbers.
Is this normal or did I get a lemon?
It's normal'ish. Depends on how hot it gets. If you're losing skin or smell something burning it's too hot and you need to exchange it. If it's just warm then you're probably good.
There are a couple threads on this in the forum. Just do a search for battery and will find what you are looking for.
I see threads about really really hot batteries, but mine is generally quite cool. I never use 4G really, but I can tether 3G all day long and it never really gets warm. With screen on for awhile - like playing a game or browsing the net - it does get warm but nowhere near "hot" like my old Eris used to get...
I think the rule of thumb is if it gets above 120°F you need to start taking a look at what is going on.
Well, thanks everyone.
I haven't gotten to 120 yet but im easily at 113-115.
Do you guys think its the battery, meaning should i shell out the $ for a new one since i got the phone practically free from VZW, or could it be some kind of heat sink issue and i need a new phone?
Has anyone had to replace one for heat issues or did you just change the battery and everything was normal?
I exchanged my first one for heat. Probably just could have exchanged the battery in hindsight. Mine was getting in the 140 degree range, so hot, even on the charger i would lose about 3% battery/minute, until it cooled down. My new one is running about 120 with hard use, but I've been running an overclocked kernal, but underclocking to 1.4ghz, and that seems to have helped keep it under 110 now. I'm running the 1.7 kernal on joelz senseless ICS rom, set to 1.4max in the CM9 cpu controller built into the rom.
There are other threads where this has been discussed already, but if you have a defective battery Verizon will replace it. Likewise with a defective phone.
johny101010 said:
After a little smooth talking to a vzw rep, I was sent a rezound in place of my Tbolt.
I love the phone and its speed but I noticed that the battery gets very hot when the screen is on. Coming from a Tbolt I can say that my phone never got over 36 degrees even when tethering for hours. The rezound gets to 38-40 from 1 hour of continuous use (screen on) but no tethering. I have the 3.7 battery. The same thing happens on custom rooms and stock.
Now, I read in tons of places that this phone gets hot but very few provide numbers.
Is this normal or did I get a lemon?
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It's an HTC thing, cheap plastic, no property heat dispersion, the batteries get hot, wait till summer
One of the biggest turn offs of HTC phones are the cheap housings they offer...plastic???!?!? Um, no thanks I'll take the heat dispersion aluminum of a Motorola
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You may have a bad phone. I just had to swap mine for a new one. My old phone worked great for the first month but then started getting hot and chewing through batteries. I did some tests comparing my phone to my wifes and I would go through the battery 3x faster than hers did. Her phone was always cool to the touch too. I did try her battery as well and that's how I was able to determine it had to be the phone and not the battery.
trying to figure out if overhaeting of the phone is related to which hardware revision the device is.
Seems that revision XA might be more prone to overheating. If y'all could, please answer this question to see of those that have overheating, might be better served getting a warranty replacement.
you can find your hardware version on the label underneath the battery.
Last line of the label: P/N ..... X/A or B or maybe something newer
Mine is XA and it has never overheated on any ROM or kernel. I'm running CleanROM 4.4 on the new firmware. The only time it has even gotten warm was when I tethered while charging. It hit about 41c (106f).
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Mine is XA and it got really really hot on the first ICS RUU (130 degrees). It still gets pretty hot after 5 miuntes of straight screen use, about 120 degrees. It sits at about 115 when streaming pandora. I'm on the new RUU leak and clean rom 4.4 on top of that.
haha, my I have swapped batteries so frequently that the ink for the P/N info and all that has smeared and is unreadable
This is acceptable? hmmmm....im starting to think that phone companies make them like this because people will be so bedazzled( if you will) with the hardware that the battery heat and meltdowns wont matter lol
RKight said:
Mine is XA and it has never overheated on any ROM or kernel. I'm running CleanROM 4.4 on the new firmware. The only time it has even gotten warm was when I tethered while charging. It hit about 41c (106f).
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Me tooooo - XA
Got it on release day and have never had a heat problem
I voted for overheating and other.. (B).. both my phone and my wifes do this.
I should note we both have 3.8volt batteries too.
I have Rev A and have never had a problem with it overheating. I think all this overheating stuff is just people getting worried that their phone is a little warm to the touch.
I remember seeing people rant and rave about how their OG Droid was overheating and how it was this and that problem. What they usually classified as overheating was about 110-115F, which is nothing in the grand scheme of things compared to the temp processors normally run at. Just for the hell of it I looked up the failure point of the OMAP that it had and it was about 200F! Two times I actually did have it overheat where it was hot to the touch, temp monitor read about 175F. Now that's a temp to get worried about!
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haha, my I have swapped batteries so frequently that the ink for the P/N info and all that has smeared and is unreadable
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dang, sounds like me on my thunderbolt, broke the back cover pins quick on that thing switching every few hours. I have extended batteries so I only swap once, maybe twice a day if its a long day.
brando56894 said:
I have Rev A and have never had a problem with it overheating. I think all this overheating stuff is just people getting worried that their phone is a little warm to the touch.
I remember seeing people rant and rave about how their OG Droid was overheating and how it was this and that problem. What they usually classified as overheating was about 110-115F, which is nothing in the grand scheme of things compared to the temp processors normally run at. Just for the hell of it I looked up the failure point of the OMAP that it had and it was about 200F! Two times I actually did have it overheat where it was hot to the touch, temp monitor read about 175F. Now that's a temp to get worried about!
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not worried so much about the processor, if it overheats and the phone reboots then I know I need to exchange. But the battery getting so hot (> 120F) causing it say battery overheat and refusing to charge is concerning.
rev b, no overheating.
A, it used to get hot when i first got it i never got a temp monitor thing but like around the first ota it seemed to have gone away...
rev b as well. no heating issues on any rom.
My phone never gets past 110ish. Htc told me that 50c is max safe temp which is 122f. So for for you guys that are hitting 125f+ I don't know what you do to get your phone that hot, but something is wrong. 30 mins streaming netflix on 4g puts me no higher than 115f
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A, it used to get hot when i first got it i never got a temp monitor thing but like around the first ota it seemed to have gone away...
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Same here.
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I'm an A.
Will get warm when I am burning alot of 4g, otherwise, nice and cold.
My phone is version A and I've never had heat issues even running at 1.89 GHz. It will get fairly warm charging and running it hard on the stock kernel, but that's because it's pushing such a high charge rate to the battery and nothing abnormal.
I also run performance WiFi sometimes and still have very decent temperatures.
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I have version A, and with my use I stay in the 110-120f. range regularly. Latest leak
Rev B. I had all kinds of heat problems, especially with the ICS leaks. But this latest leak is the best the phone has done. If you're in this thread because of heat, they may have fixed your problem with this most recent build.
I have revision A and I still have the heat issues even on the newest leak
Rev. XA, had it since black friday, always gotten hot (120+), if I watch netflix/hulu on 4g for more than 20-30 minutes, it's at 125+ (even if it's the only app running)
The times I have 4g on / gps on/ (screen never set higher than 40-60%) it gets hot doing anything for longer than 10 minutes (115 +) If I have navigation on for 30 minutes or so it's over 120.
If I watch netflix/hulu on wifi, w/ gps/4g off, screen at lowest setting, it still gets 120+ after 20-30 minutes.
Rev XA 3.7 stock and 3.7 ext batteries. Stock / not rooted or anything.
Okay so I'm switching from my incredible 2 and ordered a rezound and it came like 3 days ago and my 4g sim card hasn't come yet so the rezound hasn't even been activated. So one day I picked up the phone and it was really hot. I thought that was weird since the phones screen was off and it wasn't charging. I just want to know if its normal or not? I ordered a 1980mah slim acesoft battery just in case.
Many people have reported hot phones, but I myself have never had it get above 100. Check to see what is running in the background.
I can get mine to 114 easily just by playing music and surfing the web. Won't go higher though. I tried. And bad signal will cause it to overheat like a mother f'er. I have the extended battery and had 65% no signal, after only 13 hours with 20 minutes screen on time I'm at 37%. Its awful. Never had this issue with any other phone. Looking at the nexus or maxx currently as nothing I do improves battery. Prior I was on sprint with the evo shift. Single core always overclocked to 1.6ghz it was a rocket and only overheated when I really pushed it super hard. But never to higher than 109. This phone is just rubbish. Also to more directly answer your question yes it will become a pocket warmer at times for no reason. Im on slim rom with literally NOTHING syncing automatically. And it still heats up like its trying to do something.
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GrayTheWolf said:
Many people have reported hot phones, but I myself have never had it get above 100. Check to see what is running in the background.
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I've noticed with my old dinc and this rezound that they will get hot as the battery gets very low.
My current setup with Newt's One X runs cool on my phone. The only time I see it heat up (105) is when I'm doing stuff in recovery.
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I've noticed with my old dinc and this rezound that they will get hot as the battery gets very low.
My current setup with Newt's One X runs cool on my phone. The only time I see it heat up (105) is when I'm doing stuff in recovery.
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same here
Seems like overheating Rezounds are more common than normal. I've never had a problem unless I'm playing an intense game.
If you put a case or skin on the battery appears to get hotter due to heat buildup and transfer. Make sure any case has matching holes the same as the battery cover. Just sayin.