Hi,
most of the files that I drop on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 play smoothly, but some of the hi-res mkv files don't.
If I do need to transcode the video in order to play on the Tab, do you have any recommendations about the output video format and the transcoding software ?
I want to keep the quality as close to the original as possible (up to the maximum the Tab support), and keep a reasonable file size.
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1. In Handbrake load your video.
2. Choose the profile for iPad.
3. On the Advanced settings tab unclick "8x8 Transform".
4. This step is optional if you don't really need a 720p video. iPad resolution videos looks exquisite on the Tab anyway.
Resize your video to 1280x720 by clicking on the Picture tab on a Windows machine. Mac users can click the Picture button to change the resolution. Leave all other options intact!
5. Hit convert and wait.
The resulting file (iPad resolution only!!!) will be less than 1GB for a 1h40min video! You can push it with ADB or copy it through MTP without reconversion!
720p videos will be a bit larger in size, double for 1080p videos.
Thanks!
I needed to change the video parameters as stated below in order the video to run smoothly:
http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39...ncode-movies-to-play-on-your-galaxy-tab-10.1/
Mkv video file have subtitles embedded within the video. After converting a mkv video file that contains subtitles with handbrake subtitles are gone. Does handbrake support subtitles?
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You should be able to create an mkv out of the resulting mp4 from handbrake but not with handbrake itself. Im not at home to verify but the term mkvmerge comes to mind as ive done it in the past. Basically you use it to merge the mp4 with any srt subtitle files into an mkv container.
So in otherwords....spend 12+ hours screwing around with a 2 hour movie in hopes of getting subtitles back? I'll pass I'll donate a few more dollars to the folks at VLC in hoping they'll have android version of their player soon. Seriously tho....thanks for the feedback.
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Apparently Handbrake has subtitles option, as seen on the GUI and on the wiki, have you tried it ?
https://trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/Subtitles
you could test the output on the Tab by producing only a few seconds samples, instead of encoding the whole video and finding out it's not working properly.
There's an drop box near the title selecting box, to choose "seconds" and then choose from-through range.
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So in otherwords....spend 12+ hours screwing around with a 2 hour movie in hopes of getting subtitles back? I'll pass I'll donate a few more dollars to the folks at VLC in hoping they'll have android version of their player soon. Seriously tho....thanks for the feedback.
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No, the process of creating an MKV with subtitles in it from an already otherwise playable MP4 file using mkvmerge is not a transcoding one. MKV's merely like a container with multiple files in it.
I hadn't done it in a few months but I just tried it again using mkvmerge GUI and was able to merge an english subtitle track with a 2GB MP4 file to form an MKV in about a minute (KF Panda 2).
As for subtitles in Handbrake I've never tried, primarily because that itself is a transcoding process and if I pick the wrong subtitle file I've wasted my time (for example if the timing offset of the subtitles is off I'd have to redo the entire encode).
Exported 720/H.264 profile for Handbrake
Attached is a zip with the profile I use in handbrake. Unpack the zip to get the ".plist" file. Then import it into your Handbrake setup to try.
I have converted about 600 hours of high def video and it plays well (both streaming and downloaded) on all the devices in our hands. These include my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (TASK650 Slim), Motorola XOOMs, Galaxy Nexus, Razor, Droid 2 Global and even my wife's iPad.
The output is a 720 resolution H.264 encoded MP4, but changing the container to MKV should be easy. I chose this format to take advantage of the hardware acceleration on my Galaxy Tab.
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Attached is a zip with the profile I use in handbrake. Unpack the zip to get the ".plist" file. Then import it into your Handbrake setup to try.
I have converted about 600 hours of high def video and it plays well (both streaming and downloaded) on all the devices in our hands. These include my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (TASK650 Slim), Motorola XOOMs, Galaxy Nexus, Razor, Droid 2 Global and even my wife's iPad.
The output is a 720 resolution H.264 encoded MP4, but changing the container to MKV should be easy. I chose this format to take advantage of the hardware acceleration on my Galaxy Tab.
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Attached is a zip with the profile I use in handbrake.
...I have converted about 600 hours of high def video and it plays well ...
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Also, on my GTab I found that the native player sometimes doesn't work as well as some of the others. Fortunately there are lots of good choices, ultimately I settled on BSPlayer. It worked well for both streaming and downloaded files. It could browse the drives of my WMC machine for recorded TV and home video, and it had configuration options that let me find settings that worked.
File size will largely depend on the quality setting. Last night's daily show (Comedy Central HD) recorded into a WMV file that is 3,808,428,032 bytes. After transcoding the same show is 295,481,893 bytes. That is 7.7% of the original.
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Attached is a zip with the profile I use in handbrake. Unpack the zip to get the ".plist" file. Then import it into your Handbrake setup to try.
I have converted about 600 hours of high def video and it plays well (both streaming and downloaded) on all the devices in our hands. These include my Galaxy Tab 10.1 (TASK650 Slim), Motorola XOOMs, Galaxy Nexus, Razor, Droid 2 Global and even my wife's iPad.
The output is a 720 resolution H.264 encoded MP4, but changing the container to MKV should be easy. I chose this format to take advantage of the hardware acceleration on my Galaxy Tab.
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Giving it a try now jastop. Thanks fot the profile file.
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Well, so much for that. Handshake took a 1.7gb video and bloated it out to a 5.1gb video that won't play on any Windows or Android video player. Back to the drawing board.
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When all else fails....AVC to the rescue
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TomH54 said:
Well, so much for that. Handshake took a 1.7gb video and bloated it out to a 5.1gb video that won't play on any Windows or Android video player. Back to the drawing board.
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Can you share the video source using dropbox? i can take a quick look.
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Well, so much for that. Handshake took a 1.7gb video and bloated it out to a 5.1gb video that won't play on any Windows or Android video player. Back to the drawing board.
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Understand your frustration. It's most likely a settings issue, possibly on the video tab. What did you have it setup to do, constant quality? If so what level?
Once you get the hang of using it, its a fantastic tool that produces excellent quality encodes which is why it's often well regarded.
I've had times when sizes came out larger than expected, particularly if the video had a lot of action and the CQ algorithm pushes bitrate up during action scenes thereby pushing up the overall average bitrate and thus the file size. In cases like that I end up using a second profile in which I setup a 2 pass encode with a target average of about 3k or so.
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I just picked up my gtablet yesterday and have been spending my time installing tnt lite and installing several apps. I bought it because when I go on trips I wanted something that could browse the net, and play videos. I installed RockPlayer and put a 720p mkv file onto the machine, however playback is very choppy and its almost like the device cannot handle it. I know that several people have gotten 1080p to work good, and I am wondering if there is a setting that needs to be enabled to make 720p work better? I did some digging and saw that someone said to edit a line in the build.prop file (set the media.stagefright.enable from true to false), but I cannot edit my build.prop file. And I am not entirely sure that this will fix the problem. Are 720p videos playable on this machine?
What profile did you render the movies in? Try changing the MKV extension to AVI... Sometimes some renderers treat containers differently even though they are using the same codecs.
just tried to rename the extension from .mkv to .avi and still same choppiness and eventually the videos stops playing all together. I am not sure what rendering is, but the file is encoded AAC 2.0 H264
h264 is not the issue, it's what profile its encoded in
I have this in my FAQ section (in my sig). h264 is supported, but the Tegra 2 cannot handle h264 encoded in high profile. It can handle main profile.
This is confusing to people. So, what I would recommend is to download the excellent "mediainfo" tool (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) and it will show you how your videos are encoded.
As for container support, I think MP4 plays a little better than MKV, but Rockplayer (in the Market) seems to be able to handle MKV and using hardware acceleration. Again, as long as it's h264 main profile.
This is not just an issue with the GTab - all the Tegra 2 devices will have this issue as its a limitation of the chipset, or so I've read. Vega, Folio, even the mysterious Adam will probably have this same limitation.
Reference on h264 and main / high profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Yeah, that's the tricky part. I haven't been able to figure that out yet, although granted I haven't put much time into it. I think these "profiles" depend on how you encode and which tool you use.
If you try the Tron Legacy trailers, they are 1080p but main profile. A good example of how nice videos can look on it, when encoded the right way.
I have to play around more with something like ffmpeg to see if I can pin this down. Another reason for transcoding is to keep the sizes down, since we have the 4GB FAT32 file size limitation to deal with. Yuk.
I've incoded a 1080p high profile to main. sound was in and out then tryed a few things and lost sound. Video played great anyways.
I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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Could be a lower screen resolution that full 720p (not all 720p's are alike).
I also read today that Tegra 2 720p should work in high profile, but 1080p definitely does not. But, Android itself might be limiting even 720p, so it's a crap shoot.
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
Ok, makes sense. I do the same thing using upnplay and my server. Thought you were wanting them on the tablet.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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A two hour 720p movie runs ~4GB, so it's close to the limit in FAT32. And you could easily go over the limit when encoding, which would require you to break the file up. Annoying.
The problem here is that none of the vendors want to agree on a replacement file system for portable devices (wow, no surprise there). MS wants exFAT, the open source community would prefer EXT3/4, and I assume Apple would prefer HFS+.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Okay I'm doing the Madagascar penguin "you didn't see anything gesture" now. LOL.
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It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
G Tab supports H.264 1080p main and high profiles
Detailed specs on what Audio and Video formats G Tablet supports are listed in the manual downloadable from the Viewsonic web site.
But in a few words - it does support up to 1080p, both baseline, high, and main profiles for H.264 with certain limitations for each, and MPEG4 simple profile.
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
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My entire system is redundant. I have my windows 7 share as well as my htpc/nas running tversity, orb and audiogalaxy (music only). Everything is shared in every way. First I try just streaming the file through Windows 7 dlna, which generally works fine. I too use Upnplay. If something doesn't work (very rare) I move to looking for it through Tversity which attempts to detect the dlna device and scale it so it works. I've never needed to use Orb on the GTab since I really got everything up and running, Orb is for when I actually am on the road and want to watch sth. from my home network. PlayOn may actually work as well - it has a free mode which allows you to use it to share files on the local network using VLC codecs.
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I'd like to add to this conversation with, I hope, clarification of how to get higher definition video playback working on the GTab.
I've tried four video files that are 720P or 1080P. None of them works well in Movies, DoubleTwist, Rockplayer, or VitalPlayer.
G Tablet, TnT 4.21, OE kernel. Market fix. Various apps.
Videos all playing from /SDCARD
Here is some more information about those videos, using Mediainfo:
Touring Car race:
720P MPEG-4 50FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 3 ref frames)
AAC Stereo
Big Buck Bunny:
http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/
1080P OpenDML AVI 12Mbps 24FPS MPEG-4 Visual ([email protected])
AC-3 audio
Audi R8:
720P AVC Matroska 800Kbps 29.970FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 2 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Donington LG demo:
1080P BDAV M2TS 35.5Mbps 29.970fps AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC /3 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Are all of these simply too much for me to get away with playing on the GTab? I've played most, if not all of these, using a Broadcom 70012 Crystal HD decoder card on a Dell Mini 9 (Atom N270) with few problems.
Thanks for the help.
Wondering what app you use to watch movies from sdcard. Built-in app doesn't work. Neither does es file explorer video app.
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Wondering what app you use to watch movies from sdcard. Built-in app doesn't work. Neither does es file explorer video app.
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The built in video app works fine for me, but I prefer RockPlayer.
The built in player also works fine for me. But it really only supports MP4 video files, if I understand correctly. I use Handbrake and the iPod Touch preset to encode for my Nook.
That said, I actually use Act 1 Video Player because it has the nicest 'library' view that groups by folder.
I use yxplayer, no need to encode... plays avi files like a charm.
The built-in player outperforms RockPlayer, which has some audio sync issues.
I use the iPod Touch preset in Handbrake, but I bump the resolution up to 720 x ???, turn off Anamorphic, and set a constant video bitrate of 800kbps and an audio bitrate of 80kbps.
Works well for me. Speed Racer looks gorgeous on this screen.
from my very very few experiments, i concluded that once videos are converted to mp4 (h.264 / AAC) any player is the same (uses the hardware decoding).
with videos in different formats its likely that there will be problems
i agree with nooter on using handbrake's iphone preset modifying the bitrate setting it around 800kbps (for animated movies it can be lower 600kbps should be ok). About altering the size of the movie, only for reducing it (remember the max lines in landscape is 600)
rock player works if u have the latest universal player but you need to install add block because even if you pay for it you cannot activate it
I've found that all the players avail still play back xvid/divx avi's really choppy, going to have to give handbrake a try to take advantage of the hardware decoder...
I was just able to install vplayer from the market (a few days ago it wouldn't install)... some audio sync issues but there are some cache parameters to tweak... anybody had any luck?
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I've found that all the players avail still play back xvid/divx avi's really choppy, going to have to give handbrake a try to take advantage of the hardware decoder...
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Same experience with playing divx/xvid files, choppy sound and 21-24fps video playback. Take that same video and run it through handbrake to convert to .mp4 and it runs great.
Where is the built in video player located? I cannot seem to find it anywhere..
I agreed with vplayer beta from the market place. It's free. It'll play most video formats. I've tested 480p and 720p mkv and both play with high speed setting. 720p mkv video is slow but 480p play fine. It's great with cifsmanager and mounted shared videos.
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The built-in player outperforms RockPlayer, which has some audio sync issues.
I use the iPod Touch preset in Handbrake, but I bump the resolution up to 720 x ???, turn off Anamorphic, and set a constant video bitrate of 800kbps and an audio bitrate of 80kbps.
Works well for me. Speed Racer looks gorgeous on this screen.
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So, what filetype does that create? What is the Extension? MP4 or M4V? Also, are there any other settings, other than the ones listed above that you use?
I am asking these questions because I am having issues with movies encoded this way playing in the default player. It doesn't recognize the video, so it will not play.
Also, VPlayer plays them, but there is a definite audio lag once you forward to about mid-movie.
Also, as an aside, I am converting ISO files (Direct DVD rips) using HandBrake. That is how I am generating these files. I do change the extension to mp4 from handbrakes default (m4v i think).
Thanks for any help.
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Where is the built in video player located? I cannot seem to find it anywhere..
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There is no shortcut in the App drawer (or Gallery) for the stock video player....I just click the video file (in whatever file manager you use or the Nook Library My Files tab).
Personally I use Act 1 Video player as it will present a list of videos on the SD card and Nook. Although for some reason it list videos on the Nook twice.
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The Act 1 app seems to be the only one that can properly sort videos. I tried the trial version, and it seems to work great, but as intuitive as the in-video touch areas may seem, I just can't get my brain dialed in to use them in practice. I think the built-in NC player works just fine, it's the video file/folder sorting that's nearly impossible to navigate once you have 20 or 30 vids on there along with a few thousand photos.
The media sorting options on Android are surprising lacking, or I just can't seem to find methods to deal with 32 gigabytes of media on this device.
I just did a bunch of conversions from some 720p MKV's. I converted them using Xilisoft video converter.
The settings I used were:
720x420
800k bitrate
44.1khz 128kbps audio
H.264 codec MP4 extension
Plays flawlessly with Rockplayer. No desync on fastforward.
The Built in player IS the best
After many attempts and reboots, I have determined that the Built-in Media player is the best player for videos encoded as specified earlier in this thread...
I tried Rock, and VPlayer beta, but both had very bad audio sync issues.
The Built-in player played all my encoded videos flawlessly. The wife LOVED watching Salt on the Nook during our road-trip. The only downside is the audio on the nook--hardly any volume. Easily solved by a good set of earphones. We are very pleased with the nook.
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Check out mVideoPlayer. I haven't tried it on the Nook, but its perfect on my Galaxy S phone.
As for encoding, go with handbrake. Choose the Apple TV preset. Set resolution to custom and width to 800 (handbrake should automatically choose the correct height based on asperity ratio of source material). Set the video quality to constant at 60% (70% is the max you want for HDTV). Under audio, select the appropriate track and select aac with Prologic II or stereo as the encoding. Use the MP4 extension as to avoid issues with different t players.
You can get way more detailed on settings beyond that. It just depends on the material and the playback device. Those settings should get you outstanding video on the Nook. May have to scale back a little if the video is choppy.
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After much trial and error, I have to agree with previous poster who said the best player is the built-in player with mp4 files created with the settings mentioned. The other players all had issues with controls and added nothing if the file was formatted as described.
I also had a lot of trouble getting any player to play any file at first. I think installing some of the other players added some necessary codecs. Then after a reboot, everything started to work. Hope that helps someone else avoid some frustration.
Despite a few trials like this, I love this tablet! Thank you xda devs!
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I'm running the free version of Rock Player. It's not exactly the cheapest app out there on the Android market, but if it works well, not a big deal.
Whenever I choose an mp4 video that I've encoded at 848x360, for example, Rock Player seems to default the widescreen video to this resolution, assuming the Nook Color scaled resolution is 1024x600, which means that a high quality widescreen rip at the smaller resolution will default launch with black bars around all 4 edges.
I noticed that the video display resizing has 3 modes,
(1) the default mode as mentioned above
(2) zoomed mode which fills the whole screen, stretching as required
(3) scaled mode which allows the widescreen video to stretch to the left and right edges properly, while maintaining a proper aspect ratio.
So the simple question is, how do I configure Rock Player to default launch video files in the mode (3) mentioned above?
I've owned the phone for about a week now and I like it a lot except I'm not sure how to get videos converted on here? I had to find a trial version of AVS video converter which doesn't even support Galaxy S2, I just changed the resolution but it wasn't as good + watermark in the center.
How can I get movies on here and utilize the full screen or at least get good quality? Does Samsung Kies do this?
I know with apple products (i.e. the iPhones, iPods) it easy with itunes and I already have Videora ipod converter which is extremely easy and flawless for my iPod.
I just cant find anything that easy with the Galaxy s2? Honestly it feels like this is the deal breaker for me as much as I love this phone.
You don't have to convert anything. The phone plays divx and mkvs. Converting is in the past. At worst you need to get Dice Player from the market for mkvs with DTS. I have a huge collection and converting is history.
If you want to convert it for downsizing the file size try Handbrake. Free program and open source.
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Media Converter looks pretty cool.
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If you want to convert it for downsizing the file size try Handbrake. Free program and open source.
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Handbrake is the way to go. Free, open source, and uses one of the best H.264 encoders out there (x264).
I have attached the preset I use for encoding - note that this can probably use some tuning to be more appropriate for the GS2 as it's more capable than the Android devices I've encoded to before for media playback. It'll work just fine on the GS2, it just won't achieve quite the quality and compression ratios possible by enabling some of the more advanced H.264 features.
I disagree on conversion being unnecessary - 720p/1080p videos are pointless unless you're using the MHL adapter, they'll play but are a waste of storage space. Also, some codecs/formats may fallback on software decoding, eating your battery more than hardware-decoded formats.
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You don't have to convert anything. The phone plays divx and mkvs. Converting is in the past. At worst you need to get Dice Player from the market for mkvs with DTS. I have a huge collection and converting is history.
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and here I was searching the ends of the earth looking for a program to convert the files. I could have sworn I saw somewhere that Galaxy S2 didn't support avi's. Boy was I wrong. Thanks!
DivX or XviD are just codecs for .avi files right? Most of my movies are all avi's and I just drag and dropped one and it played great just now.
Do you all your movies play with black borders too? I know I could resize it on my Galaxy S2 but there is some loss in quality. This seems like a universal thing as my iPod Touch does the same thing. It's not a problem really it's just I'd like to be able to utilize the full screen.
Entropy512 said:
Handbrake is the way to go. Free, open source, and uses one of the best H.264 encoders out there (x264).
I have attached the preset I use for encoding - note that this can probably use some tuning to be more appropriate for the GS2 as it's more capable than the Android devices I've encoded to before for media playback. It'll work just fine on the GS2, it just won't achieve quite the quality and compression ratios possible by enabling some of the more advanced H.264 features.
I disagree on conversion being unnecessary - 720p/1080p videos are pointless unless you're using the MHL adapter, they'll play but are a waste of storage space. Also, some codecs/formats may fallback on software decoding, eating your battery more than hardware-decoded formats.
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I've heard of Handbrake, basically it's if I have full DVD's right? And you can't see true 720p or 1080p videos on this phone right? Only on a hdtv through the MHL adapter?
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Do you all your movies play with black borders too? I know I could resize it on my Galaxy S2 but there is some loss in quality. This seems like a universal thing as my iPod Touch does the same thing. It's not a problem really it's just I'd like to be able to utilize the full screen.
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Yes, it does for movies but not TV thanks to the aspect ratio. Some player from the market (Moboplayer, Dice Player) let you resize to fill the screen.
I've heard of Handbrake, basically it's if I have full DVD's right? And you can't see true 720p or 1080p videos on this phone right? Only on a hdtv through the MHL adapter?
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Handbrake can re-encode almost any video source. You can watch 1080p movies on the phone but they only display in WVGA resolution. With MHL out the phone will playback full Blu Ray rips in 1080p (I do this often).
Depends on the movie. If it's a 16:9 movie, it should have little to no black bordering.
If it's a 2.35:1 movie - it's going to have black bars above/below.
4:3 content will have black bars left/right.
While you can directly watch 1080p content (we've got a beefy GPU), it gets scaled down to 480p - so it'll just waste storage space.
The preset I linked preserves the aspect ratio and limits to a max of 800 pixels wide or 480 tall, so basically scaling video to the optimal resolution for our phone - not too small, not any larger than the native resolution.
If you want to use the MHL adapter, I can post the 720p preset I use on my Tab 10.1
Entropy512 said:
Handbrake is the way to go. Free, open source, and uses one of the best H.264 encoders out there (x264).
I have attached the preset I use for encoding - note that this can probably use some tuning to be more appropriate for the GS2 as it's more capable than the Android devices I've encoded to before for media playback. It'll work just fine on the GS2, it just won't achieve quite the quality and compression ratios possible by enabling some of the more advanced H.264 features.
I disagree on conversion being unnecessary - 720p/1080p videos are pointless unless you're using the MHL adapter, they'll play but are a waste of storage space. Also, some codecs/formats may fallback on software decoding, eating your battery more than hardware-decoded formats.
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Thanks a lot for attaching your preset. It works great. You mentioned that it can use some tuning for our phone to achieve the quality and compression ratios possible. I don't know how to do that so I don't know if it's quick and simple to do or not. Can you do that and attach it for us to download?
Thanks
Basically go into Advanced and try enabling various features until something breaks.
I tried it on my Infuse at one point and it just caused audio and video to desync. Haven't had time to fiddle with it on the GS2. It's basically trial and error in the Advanced tab of Handbrake.
Entropy512 said:
Basically go into Advanced and try enabling various features until something breaks.
I tried it on my Infuse at one point and it just caused audio and video to desync. Haven't had time to fiddle with it on the GS2. It's basically trial and error in the Advanced tab of Handbrake.
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ok. thanks
can you post the preset you use for your tab 10.1?
thanks again
It's basically the exact same preset except the resolution limits are 1280x720. The resolution limits are hard to find, you only see them when saving a profile.
Hey, so whenever I try to watch MKV videos that are 200mb or bigger, my GS2 will play the video for a couple of minutes, but then it freezes and I have to restart the phone. I'm currently using Unnamed ROM, but I've tried using other ROMs and the same thing happens. Can anyone help!? Thanks.
Odd... never had such an issues. also shouldn't this be under the Q & A section?
Are you over clocking/undervolting? This happened to me when I oc/uv a little too much with something that needs more power.
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Try using other video players such as mxvideo player or mvideoplayer.
mobo player works good too.
Dice player is the best player I've found that will play .mkv files. I've used Mobo too and Dice plays better IMO. If your OC/UV'ing, like mentioned, that will certainly play a roll. Try all stock voltages and see if you lock up.
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I made some files from an MKV BD rip to test out picture quality. I made 2 files each at 1280x720 and 800x480 in both MKV and MP4 containers. I wanted to see if there was any appreciable difference in viewing quality between resolution and see if, as you reported, there were any problem playing MKVs with the stock player. Well, I immediately ran into a problem. When I tried to drag and drop the 2 MKV files over it instantly crashed Windows Explorer. Every time. I tried using Kies, but it converts the files to MP4 when copying to the device. Strangely, it converted them fine and they played fine, as did the others. I don't know why an MKV file would cause Explorer to crash. In watching the files I could not see any noticeable quality difference between the Hi-def 1280 file and the native 800 file that would make it worthwhile to give up the additional storage space needed for the Hi-def file. I'd still like to know why I can't transfer an MKV file to the device, though.
Miami_Son said:
I made some files from an MKV BD rip to test out picture quality. I made 2 files each at 1280x720 and 800x480 in both MKV and MP4 containers. I wanted to see if there was any appreciable difference in viewing quality between resolution and see if, as you reported, there were any problem playing MKVs with the stock player. Well, I immediately ran into a problem. When I tried to drag and drop the 2 MKV files over it instantly crashed Windows Explorer. Every time. I tried using Kies, but it converts the files to MP4 when copying to the device. Strangely, it converted them fine and they played fine, as did the others. I don't know why an MKV file would cause Explorer to crash. In watching the files I could not see any noticeable quality difference between the Hi-def 1280 file and the native 800 file that would make it worthwhile to give up the additional storage space needed for the Hi-def file. I'd still like to know why I can't transfer an MKV file to the device, though.
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How big is the file? And use the file explorer option in Kies Air. And I like the option of being able to playback 720p files so I don't have to go through the process of re-encoding everything just for my phone.
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How big is the file? And use the file explorer option in Kies Air. And I like the option of being able to playback 720p files so I don't have to go through the process of re-encoding everything just for my phone.
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The files varied in size from 100-200mb. I have yet to try KiesAir, but will do so. The file size difference between a 1280x720 and an 800x480 file is considerable. Enough to make a reconversion worthwhile. I use PavTube Ultimate and there's a preset for Samsung that makes it a practically 1-step process.
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Are you over clocking/undervolting? This happened to me when I oc/uv a little too much with something that needs more power.
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No, I haven't tried to overclock it yet.
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Try using other video players such as mxvideo player or mvideoplayer.
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I've tried multiple video players. Got the same results.
Try using MX Video player and change in the settings somewhere to use software decoding instead of hardware accelerated and see if that works.
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Try using MX Video player and change in the settings somewhere to use software decoding instead of hardware accelerated and see if that works.
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+1 had the same problem with done of my videos out of sync when I would resume them. Mx solved that problem with software encoding instead of hardware
Ok, firstly, i used the search, found this thread, didnt help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427587
I know the prime can read pretty much any video file given the right player, thats not my question.
My problem is most of my bluerays have been converted to digital, in some cases the files are over 10 gigs. Now i CAN play those files on my prime however i can only fit a couple on my sd card before i run out of space.
What im looking for is settings to optimize conversion for best quality the prime can show while reducing the file size to the smallest possible.
For instance, a 1080P video will play at a max resolution of 1280 x 800. Audio can be stripped to stereo instead of 5.1 surround since the prime wont output much better anyways.
Most of my files are MKV format.
WinFF is my software of choice, its worked well for me in the past but there were specific config files for it. Unfortunately i dont know enough about video encoding to know which settings to use for the prime.
Anyone have experience with WinFF? Have other software you use that works better? If anyone has suggestions im open to them. Thanks!
If I remember right, AVS vide converter has that option but it's not free. I'm sure there are free alternatives but I can't name any
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edited first post. WinFF is my software of choice but im not sure what settings to use other than 1050x800 for the resolution. What bit rates should i use, what presets? any ideas?
I wouldn't use x800.
Down-convert to 720p and stick to the Scene rules (attached) and you'll be good.
Edit: looks like the .png attach gets resized to useless. Grab the .c file and rename to .png.
I stick to CD size 700Mb downloads and they seem to work fine whatever the resolution.
I use handbrake (free) to convert my movies. If the movie is 1080p scale it down to 720p. i use the profile from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
movies end up being like 2 gb tops and play great. they will even stream with the average wifi signal on the prime.
I do my conversions with RipBot264.
For the Prime, I convert:
Video down to 720p mkv with quality set to High-Profile CQ19 or CQ20. No sense in 1080p unless I'm watching on 40"+ big screen that can show the extra resolution.
I set audio to DD/DTS "5.1 core only" because I use the same files with my laptop (Lenovo X220) which can output 5.1 via HDMI or optical equipped USB sound card ($25 SIIG soundwave in my case). I can understand why some would go down to stereo, but audio data is small compared to video data.., so there's not that much of a size penalty for keeping 5.1 audio since I might actually use it.
Main reason I use RipBot is to deal with movies that have forced subtitles. I can identify the forced subtitle track and have it build/render the subtitles into the video frames. This is so I don't have to deal with whether my device/player supports subtitles correctly. Watching something like District 9 (heavily subtitled) would be a disaster, otherwise.
Size wise, I usually see around an 80-85% reduction in size vs the original source m2ts file.
But this is what I love about the TF201. If I'm in a rush to make a flight, I don't have to convert. It will play the same 1080p CQ18 mkv I use on my XBMC / NAS setup. Heck, it'll even play the raw Bluray m2ts file straight off the disc. Love my TF201.
Ya, as stated in OP PLAYING the videos is never a problem, its just storing more than a couple of those extra high res videos takes a toll on my onboard memory
Thanks for the tips all around, will definately give them a go.
Just use ttorrent. Problem solved.
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dnar56 said:
Just use ttorrent. Problem solved.
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Not quite. Not all movies make it to a torrent. Hand brake as was previously posted is what I've been using for a while and it works great. SUPER works and has presets for quite a few screen types and sound codecs.
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gunz.jones said:
Not quite. Not all movies make it to a torrent. Hand brake as was previously posted is what I've been using for a while and it works great. SUPER works and has presets for quite a few screen types and sound codecs.
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what presets are you using? how do the movies turn out? what file size would an average length movie turn out to?