just wondering how ppl have got around the fat32 limit on their 8gb+ cards? anyone got ntfs-3g or some other file system working to be able to use 4gb+ files on their phones?
Tried formatting the card with ext2/3/4?
Fat32 is limited to 4GB files, end of story. You could try ext4 but you might havve some trouble copying files.
But i have my micro SDHC 8GB formated at fat 32
Trying ext* was my initial thought but wanted to avoid getting into a situation where I have to install ext drivers on a windows host (netcafe/library- or friends-computer-type situation), hence the ntfs question.
I realise fat32 is limited to 4gb files, that was the point of the post.
Just wondering what others have tried already.
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I wondered if its normal that none Windows 7's
own tools (GUI format, dos box FORMAT.exe and
diskpart.exe) are able to format it as FAT32, (only
as NTFS and exFAT).
I was able to use Easyus 9.1.1 and it formatted fine
there. After restoring the data from the hard drive,
the card is seen fine with its correct size.
I wish hboot and the OS understood sdcard as ext2/3/4
file system, because FAT32 on 64gb is really wasteful.
fuzzynco said:
I wondered if its normal that none Windows 7's
own tools (GUI format, dos box FORMAT.exe and
diskpart.exe) are able to format it as FAT32, (only
as NTFS and exFAT).
I was able to use Easyus 9.1.1 and it formatted fine
there. After restoring the data from the hard drive,
the card is seen fine with its correct size.
I wish hboot and the OS understood sdcard as ext2/3/4
file system, because FAT32 on 64gb is really wasteful.
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Welcome to windows. There is a reason why but honestly I forget what it was. Windows has a size limit of 32Gb...hence it being called fat 32
Ironically the format tool built into Mac osx will format fat 32 to any size drive. I had a 250GB hard drive completely formatted fat 32 at one point. Long story.
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nosympathy said:
Welcome to windows. There is a reason why but honestly I forget what it was. Windows has a size limit of 32Gb...hence it being called fat 32
Ironically the format tool built into Mac osx will format fat 32 to any size drive. I had a 250GB hard drive completely formatted fat 32 at one point. Long story.
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I believe it's the way that an sd card is set to reach those high levels of memory. The blocks are different. Personally, NTFS works better and causes no lags.
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Haha... That is so not why it's called fat32
32bits in the table identifier...
I'd go into more detail, wikipedia should cover the rest. Not sure why you're having trouble with windows formatting it? I don't have a 64gb card to test with... Could be the card readers fault too.
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Not sure I understand the issue. If for some reason your computer has trouble formatting it, just put it in your phone and it does it for you.
As another user said, windows will not format any disk space larger than 40ish GB in any FAT (12,16,32) format. FAT is pretty much useless nowadays anyway. I format even my smallest flash drives 1-2gb in ntfs. Much less problems. Fat just can't handle larger partitions. It was designed when whole programs fit on a 5in floppy and hdd were less than 5gb to take up very little space. Ntfs is faster and more efficient now.
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Yes but the Android OS and bootloader
dumbly insist that the external card
be Fat32 instead of a Linux style EXTx
filesystem without those limitations.
Especially now that the phone can fake
out windows into treating any
filesystem as if it was a windows compatible file system.
I just don't understand why that is still
so?
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MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition
I was also able to format my 64 gb sd card using MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition. Works great in my android tablet now. That exfat thing was driving me crazy.
fuzzynco said:
I wondered if its normal that none Windows 7's
own tools (GUI format, dos box FORMAT.exe and
diskpart.exe) are able to format it as FAT32, (only
as NTFS and exFAT).
I was able to use Easyus 9.1.1 and it formatted fine
there. After restoring the data from the hard drive,
the card is seen fine with its correct size.
I wish hboot and the OS understood sdcard as ext2/3/4
file system, because FAT32 on 64gb is really wasteful.
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Sorry for the stupid question, but do we have to have It formatted in fat32? I think my phone formatted mine in exfat. Btw, I hate windows now. It destroyed all my stuff from my 32gb sd card when I tried to copy everything to my new 64gb.
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1454 said:
Sorry for the stupid question, but do we have to have It formatted in fat32? I think my phone formatted mine in exfat. Btw, I hate windows now. It destroyed all my stuff from my 32gb sd card when I tried to copy everything to my new 64gb.
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How did it destroy your stuff? Are you having trouble using a 64gb card connected to Win7 even after it is formatted fat32?
feralicious said:
How did it destroy your stuff? Are you having trouble using a 64gb card connected to Win7 even after it is formatted fat32?
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On my 32gb card when I put it in my card reader it said it was corrupt and windows tried to fix it. I do recall giving it permission to do so, and it was fine when i took it out of the phone. So now everything is in .chk
I have recovered a few items from the chk format, but none of it is labeled anymore. So it might as well be lost, as it's not worth me going back though and trying to rename all 30gb of information. I have the 64gb card in the phone right now and it seems fine.... Just empty. Haha.
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1454 said:
On my 32gb card when I put it in my card reader it said it was corrupt and windows tried to fix it. I do recall giving it permission to do so, and it was fine when i took it out of the phone. So now everything is in .chk
I have recovered a few items from the chk format, but none of it is labeled anymore. So it might as well be lost, as it's not worth me going back though and trying to rename all 30gb of information. I have the 64gb card in the phone right now and it seems fine.... Just empty. Haha.
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If you haven't done anything to the 32gb card, try using testdisk. It's a free utility that can recover files. I had that happen to my 64gb sd card on a Vista laptop and was able to recover what I needed off it, my nandroids, backups, pics, etc... Also recovered everything off a 500gb drive that all of a sudden Windows was telling me wasn't formatted.
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
I just got my new Win7 laptop so I was wondering if I should hold onto my pos Vista one to read the 64gb card.
I have read that some kernels allow sd card to be formatted NTFS and mounted to use in Android. Is this true? I would like to use my new 64gb sd card to copy large files using NTFS. What about xFat? Does Android recognize this?
ExFat works fine. My 64 GB card was recognized right out of the package.
Will exfat let me copy large files say 5-10 gigs each? Fat32 of course does not. Sorry for noob questions. Thanks for info.
bud951 said:
Will exfat let me copy large files say 5-10 gigs each? Fat32 of course does not. Sorry for noob questions. Thanks for info.
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Exfat does work with large files. It might not work with non stock kernels though.
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Hello, new micro sd card 32gb class 10 i think
What is the best file system to format it?
Thanks!
I' a noob so weight my words but I went with NTFS and everythibg is still ok.
*except my typing
Format it with the original file system of the sdcard, so you surely won't have problems, but if you're using the CustomRom Cyanogenmod it won't work with exFat, cause CM doesn't support it because of licences!
Use the phone to format the card and you should be fine. If you want to select the file system yourself, FAT32 works on 32GB cards and is the most likely to work well.
Fat32 is best for compatibility. ExFat is best for performance
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Fat32 has a file size limit of 2^32 bytes (hence the name Fat32) which equivalents 4GB
If you have files (movies, ...) which are larger you need to use another filesystem.
Exfat support is very bad on linux and thus can lead to undesired results including data loss. Go with EXT4 (optimal choice) or NTFS but note that you will not be able to use a cardreader when choosing ext.
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If you saw my other post,its similar to this one? My question though is by default,what partition are SD cards set at? I had read thru other website searches,that it was exFAT? If that were the case than my android phone wouldn't recognize a brand new 16gb class 4 sdcard right? Than in which case I would have to format the card to a fat32 format?
If this helps,my ps3 also doesn't recognize the 16gb card but it does recognize the 8gb...I remember formatting the 8gb one to fat32 which by process of elimination makes me assume the 16gb card is on a format incompatible with my android phone/ps3...
Which software would y'all use to partition the entire 16gb card? I can't use my phone as my phone doesn't even recognize the card. As a matter of fact while in recovery it tells me there's an error in mounting
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You need to format as Fat32.
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Jrhodes85 said:
If you saw my other post,its similar to this one? My question though is by default,what partition are SD cards set at? I had read thru other website searches,that it was exFAT? If that were the case than my android phone wouldn't recognize a brand new 16gb class 4 sdcard right? Than in which case I would have to format the card to a fat32 format?
If this helps,my ps3 also doesn't recognize the 16gb card but it does recognize the 8gb...I remember formatting the 8gb one to fat32 which by process of elimination makes me assume the 16gb card is on a format incompatible with my android phone/ps3...
Which software would y'all use to partition the entire 16gb card? I can't use my phone as my phone doesn't even recognize the card. As a matter of fact while in recovery it tells me there's an error in mounting
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I am attaching a very basic Windows tool to format SD cards to FAT32, simple!
Is it possible that this sdcard came with a different partition that's inconsistent with both android and my ps3...ohh and I haven't ruled out the possibility of having a problem with the sdcard slot. I've had problems with the 8gb one working but its working fine now. They are two different manufacturers with these cards....maybe this 16gb card isn't partitioned with fat32....
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I know this is technically a question, but I was hoping to spark some discussion on filesystems in android.
I just got a 64GB microSDXC card and I know that the LGOG is compatible with it. I just checked and noticed that:
a. it comes preformated with exfat and
b. my ubuntu install is not cool with that.
I'm all linux over here, so I'd actually prefer something like ext4, or something more flash-storage specific (forget, but there were several flash-friendly FS's in the works way back) and I'm just fine with the 'other OS's' not being able to mount my microsd card.
The primary concern, of course, is what the LGOG is gonna require. At first I thought this would have to be exFAT, but seeing as FAT32 supports up to 2TiB, maybe FAT32 is still the only option? I tried ext4 in my xperia ION, and it wouldn't mount unless it was FAT32.
If you want mount it in CWM , I'm pretty sure it has to be FAT32.
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JasonJoel said:
If you want mount it in CWM , I'm pretty sure it has to be FAT32.
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good point, though at this point I'm unlikely to use CWM on this device, though, that could change. I've just read that many people are opting for NTFS on their sdcards in android to avoid the 4GB file-size limit of FAT32. I had no idea android supported NTFS, though linux support is quite good at this point apparently, so that makes sense....
I formatted NTFS (in linux, tho) and the stock LGOG firmware refused to mount it, so I guess I'm stuck with FAT32....
razholio said:
I formatted NTFS (in linux, tho) and the stock LGOG firmware refused to mount it, so I guess I'm stuck with FAT32....
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You can format the SD cart to ext4 using Gparted and it should be usable and much faster than FAT32. I've formatted my SanDisk 64 SDXC to two separate partitions so that I can utilize the primary partition for storage and the secondary partition for apps synced with Link2SD. Works quite nicely formatted into two 29GB partitions.
Fracto said:
You can format the SD cart to ext4 using Gparted and it should be usable and much faster than FAT32. I've formatted my SanDisk 64 SDXC to two separate partitions so that I can utilize the primary partition for storage and the secondary partition for apps synced with Link2SD. Works quite nicely formatted into two 29GB partitions.
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does this work with stock firmware? I tried ext4 on my ion and it would not mount the external SD card formatted with ext4.
Fracto said:
You can format the SD cart to ext4 using Gparted and it should be usable and much faster than FAT32. I've formatted my SanDisk 64 SDXC to two separate partitions so that I can utilize the primary partition for storage and the secondary partition for apps synced with Link2SD. Works quite nicely formatted into two 29GB partitions.
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I'll have to download a live CD and try that out.
I'm also primarily a linux user. I have been using fat32 on my 64gb class 10 card and recommend it for convenience.
I did try exfat and although I did not run benchmarks, I think exfat is slightly faster (and I'm sure ext4 would be faster that fat32). However, you cannot beat the convenience of downloading a zip file straight to your card and installing via CWM all in just a few minutes.
It's no ext4 and so I lose a tiny bit of peace of mind, but it's worth it.
razholio said:
I know this is technically a question, but I was hoping to spark some discussion on filesystems in android.
I just got a 64GB microSDXC card and I know that the LGOG is compatible with it. I just checked and noticed that:
a. it comes preformated with exfat and
b. my ubuntu install is not cool with that.
I'm all linux over here, so I'd actually prefer something like ext4, or something more flash-storage specific (forget, but there were several flash-friendly FS's in the works way back) and I'm just fine with the 'other OS's' not being able to mount my microsd card.
The primary concern, of course, is what the LGOG is gonna require. At first I thought this would have to be exFAT, but seeing as FAT32 supports up to 2TiB, maybe FAT32 is still the only option? I tried ext4 in my xperia ION, and it wouldn't mount unless it was FAT32.
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Fracto said:
You can format the SD cart to ext4 using Gparted and it should be usable and much faster than FAT32. I've formatted my SanDisk 64 SDXC to two separate partitions so that I can utilize the primary partition for storage and the secondary partition for apps synced with Link2SD. Works quite nicely formatted into two 29GB partitions.
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Has anyone else tried this?
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Has anyone else tried this?
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Yeah I formatted mine into one 50 Gb partition (User) and another 9 GB partition (apps) and Link2SD works great. However, for apps that download additional data into the obb folder it doesn't move that over. Another thing to note is the highest app that I linked only saved about 50 MBs. Not really saving that much space but after I linked several 50 MB and under apps, I recovered about 1 GB of space on the Internal. It's worth it and not that complicated.
I you want to try: Backup your SD, format it to Fat32, use MiniTool to resize the first partition, then create a second partition (FAT 32 and make sure it is Primary, Don't use ext4 it didn't work for me) using the remaining space.
EDIT: Even 9 GBs is too large. Anyone who is gonna try this, you would only need about 3 to 6 GBs for Link2SD. I also tried using GL to SD in combination with Link2SD and had some issues.
Okay, in the morning I'll make a 50gb the exfat partition for use in android and a 9gb FAT32 for recovery.
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Okay, in the morning I'll make a 50gb the exfat partition for use in android and a 9gb FAT32 for recovery.
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I think you misunderstood. The first partition will be used for files and recovery in android and must be FAT32. You can use another format but I haven't tested any others. I also know the recovery won't recognize any other format besides FAT32. The second partition can only be used for link2sd and the only one I got to work was FAT32.
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I don't use Link2SD. Just exfat for music, videos, and map data and FAT32 for Android crap and recovery.
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