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I am shocked that i cant seem to find any solution to this, even more so i am shocked that i haven't come across users that are even looking for a solution to this isssue. Anyways here is goes..
Our phones have an internal and external sd card. That great! actually it blows in my mind. I wish we didnt have internal sd because it just screws everything up when you are trying to do what i want to do. I have a 32gb external sd that i want to use as the main storage for nandroids, downloads, ti backups, and all or atleast most application external data. I have to keep deleting backups one after another because i my internal sd card is always full, and when it comes to my nandroids its a pain to have to move them from internal to external sd and then back when i want to restore (which it also causes issues for me and i get a md5 mismatch in cwm). There has got to be a way to use your exteral sd card as the main storage, CM7 has a solutions to this but it only works at boot so it doesnt mount the external as internal within recovery, which i can live with because cwmr 5.0.2.7 allows you to backup and restore to either the internal or external. The issue with this is no other rom does this so if i am on another rom besides cm7 then and i want to restore a backup that i did on my external sd with 5.0.2.7, i have to move the nandroid from external to internal to do so, and when you are moving it from one to the other on your phone it takes forever because it is usually 700+mb.
This whole internal sd and external sd is really pissing me off. This phone (which i truly love and is by far the best phone on my market) and my other phone, droid bionic are the only two phones that i have every owned that have had this issue. All other phones of mine (HTC) have never had an internal sd card.
If someone can come up with a fix or point me to a fix that will accomplish what i am looking for I would quickly pay (or donate) $30.00. Its not a lot of money but its enough to buy some accessories and for me, paying $30 is worth it. Again i need a fix that will work in recovery(cmr 5.0.2.7 does this) and at boot.
Edit. Nevermind, it seems the only way to fix this issue the way i need it is if we get the new cwm 5.0.2.7 recovery. Just waiting on entropy to try and get this in his kernal. Once he does that i will be donating again to him instead
Pretty simple, in recovery.fstab swap what internal and external point to, compile, flash, FIXED.
can you provide some instructions? What does this do exactly.
Thanks
Google "fstab" and "linux mounts" and you'll find an answer... but be careful because as there might be unexpected consequences...
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I'm not an expert, but when I first ran CWM the entire phone storage was unmounted and just internal storage. I had to mount it SD. Couldn't you just go to cwm and reverse that?
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Shammyh said:
Google "fstab" and "linux mounts" and you'll find an answer... but be careful because as there might be unexpected consequences...
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Well I dont know nearly as much as you, so googling those terms does not help. I appreciate the gesture but i am going to need some more help than that unfortunately.
Does anyone know the block id for sd-external?
did you take a look into fstab? it should be pretty apparent from there. if not, then just issue mount command from console - it prints out all currently mounted devices, including sdcard.
don't forget to send DG $30 for the hint
vladm7 said:
did you take a look into fstab? it should be pretty apparent from there. if not, then just issue mount command from console - it prints out all currently mounted devices, including sdcard.
don't forget to send DG $30 for the hint
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recovery.fstab? correct not vold.fstab, right? And what is the external sd mount id?
I just want to be clear that i want it to mount the external sd as internatal in recovery not just at boot so vold.fstab will not do that
Entropy just included a fix for this in his new kernel 111311. Just flash it and voila.
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Romee74 said:
Entropy just included a fix for this in his new kernel 111311. Just flash it and voila.
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Yes i know but thanks.
I have read a lot of forums on this topic. I wanted to root and get cm10 and join this android community, but unfortunately I went wrong somewhere. I used CMW and got CM10 working, but for some reason, it does not recognize my sd card. I tried clearing it out, formatting through recovery, and all that did was cause me to lose all my data. I did the work around with having s-on, but can't see how that can be an issue. I can't access my ext or internal storage at all, not even through my pc, I have no aps and no ability to download apps due to google market not being install. If this has already been answered, please send me the link, because I searched most forums and none of the solutions posted has worked for me.
The only thing I can do now in terms of internal or external memory would have to be in fastboot, because even with cm10 running I can't access my internal or external memory though pc.
Does cwm recognize memory? Can you mount storage to pc using cwm? You can probably format the internal that way. You really should be using twrp, cwm causes more problems then its worth
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Does cwm recognize memory? Can you mount storage to pc using cwm? You can probably format the internal that way. You really should be using twrp, cwm causes more problems then its worth
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I can not access anything, the only thing to try now is installing twrp on top of cmw the fastboost usb way
It couldn't hurt to try
dvill1 said:
I have read a lot of forums on this topic. I wanted to root and get cm10 and join this android community, but unfortunately I went wrong somewhere. I used CMW and got CM10 working, but for some reason, it does not recognize my sd card. I tried clearing it out, formatting through recovery, and all that did was cause me to lose all my data. I did the work around with having s-on, but can't see how that can be an issue. I can't access my ext or internal storage at all, not even through my pc, I have no aps and no ability to download apps due to google market not being install. If this has already been answered, please send me the link, because I searched most forums and none of the solutions posted has worked for me.
The only thing I can do now in terms of internal or external memory would have to be in fastboot, because even with cm10 running I can't access my internal or external memory though pc.
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did u used cwm recovery???
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did u used cwm recovery???
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Yes, thats what I'm currently using.
It's not all that unique btw, cwm has been corrupting memory cards and partitions practically since being ported.
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Yes, thats what I'm currently using.
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i would not use that recovery if i was u.. it messes up your misc partition.. i would flash twrp 2.2.2 asap.. no one uses cwm recovery on the evo LTE.. it dont work correct on this phone boss
I managed to get twrp, but still the same issues, even twrp refuses to mount internal or external storage. I even partitioned SD, reflashed and still nothing.
It may be time to relock and run ruu
Maybe flashing a new custom ROM with twrp?
I thought you had lol. Try that and failing that I would fall back to ruu
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Maybe flashing a new custom ROM with twrp?
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How are you gonna flash A ROM I'd you can't mount or access your internal or external storage in any way?
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Let them figure it out lol
Hello everyone,
I had previously rooted my original evo a while back and recently got the new evo lte, and thought "Oh I can root this all by myself." Big mistake
Okay, so, I made sure to unlock it using the HTC dev. Then downloaded Rom Manager and tried to put the new cm10 rom but for some reason it was coming up with sd errors. So, I looked up what could possibly be the cause behind that, which I thought was the previous Rom Manager data from the old evo. So I deleted it and well had the same problem. I also made sure to do the Hboot fastboot thing too.
Then I download the TWRP recovery and things took a turn for the worst. Now my external/internal storage is unreadable to twrp, ironically so, I can still use the USB for the sd.
I tried other roms, but it won't load them
Now, my os is gone and I just don't know what to do. At very least I can still use fastboot, but I really just unsure how I can well make it work.
so stat wise it says
tampered/unlocked
S-ON RL
Hboot 1.15
Radio 1.05.11.0606
OpenDSP-v25. 1.032.0405
I am also running a mac.
So, if anyone can set me in the right direction, that would be super.
For one reason or another some users have problems flashing cmx and corrupting internal. Boot to twrp and mount as USB then format it in OSX.
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For one reason or another some users have problems flashing cmx and corrupting internal. Boot to twrp and mount as USB then format it in OSX.
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Thank you for replying. So I want to mount the internal storage and format it in Fat32?
Also, when I go to the mounting menu, it will not let me press "Mount Internal".
However, I can mount internal storage using USB storage method, I don't get it...
Selecting mount as usb storage is all you need to do, at the very least you should be able to do that, then format, fat 32 is the default so there is no need to specify fat 32
Format the top one, correct?
Sorry for the late reply, that should be it
No, Thank you.
So, I did reformat. It still cannot find the internal storage/SD storage.
So, can I push RUU through fastboot to return it to a functional state. All this for Jellybean, haha
I had almost the same thing happen to me over the weekend for the first time. I was about to reformat it in twrp and that worked great for me. So give that a try before you run a ruu
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I had almost the same thing happen to me over the weekend for the first time. I was about to reformat it in twrp and that worked great for me. So give that a try before you run a ruu
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I already reformat the internal and it made no different. I also cannot reformat within twrp, it just says cannot find and fails.
I think I've misunderstood, if you reformatted and can not access memory from aosp Rom try flashing the sd rewrite fix
swap internal/external links
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I think I've misunderstood, if you reformatted and can not access memory from aosp Rom try flashing the sd rewrite fix
swap internal/external links
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No no, I apologize. This is all terribly confusing.
So I will just fastboot it through terminal
/fastboot-mac flash zip blablah.zip
right?
No this is flashed through recovery
arts aaverse
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No this is flashed through recovery
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I don't know exactly know how I am going to do that, since the recovery does not recognized the internal/external storage. When I mounted via USB and put the zip on there, I cannot find it within the recovery.
Odd, after reformatting you should be able to use the internal again
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Odd, after reformatting you should be able to use the internal again
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Yes. Sadly I don't think reformatting did anything. At this point, I am unsure what to do. Can I even still flash a RUU?
rentiyl said:
Yes. Sadly I don't think reformatting did anything. At this point, I am unsure what to do. Can I even still flash a RUU?
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I'm coming into this late but I recently experienced corrupted internal storage while running cmx as well. While I could not choose to mount the external storage, I somehow was able to select that bubble when in the restore menu. I restored an old meanrom and it rebuilt the internal storage despite losing the data. Not sure if this info will help you at all, but figured I would share. Good luck.
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I'm coming into this late but I recently experienced corrupted internal storage while running cmx as well. While I could not choose to mount the external storage, I somehow was able to select that bubble when in the restore menu. I restored an old meanrom and it rebuilt the internal storage despite losing the data. Not sure if this info will help you at all, but figured I would share. Good luck.
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No, thank you for input. Sadly, since this a very new phone, I have nothing to restore it to. As, I was unable to make a back up for this all happened. But I am sure if I did have one it would get me out of this rut.
rentiyl said:
No, thank you for input. Sadly, since this a very new phone, I have nothing to restore it to. As, I was unable to make a back up for this all happened. But I am sure if I did have one it would get me out of this rut.
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So when you flash a new rom from twrp, what happens? Are you flashing the kernel beforehand too since you are s-on?
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So when you flash a new rom from twrp, what happens? Are you flashing the kernel beforehand too since you are s-on?
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When I was able to flash a new rom [as I am now unable to really access my sd card] it would install it, however, it would boot past the the splash screen and would go black. I didn't think I had to flash the kernel before hand, perhaps that was my problem.
Hey everyone,
I just got a Verizon Galaxy S4 and have been playing around with rooting and ROMS. I just did a clean restore to factory settings, but it shows I only have 3GB of space available. Misc files is using 6.57gb, downloads 116kb, audio 152kb, pictures 5mb, and application 349mb. It seems like I am missing 8gb. Any ideas of what I should do?
Thanks,
andrx471
FIXED
Hey everyone,
I fixed the problem. I flashed to a stock Verizon S4 image, then did a factory reset. I had done one or the other, but not both. I guess this raises the question, why am I losing 6GB of space when I root my phone?
Thanks again,
andrx471
andrx471 said:
Hey everyone,
I just got a Verizon Galaxy S4 and have been playing around with rooting and ROMS. I just did a clean restore to factory settings, but it shows I only have 3GB of space available. Misc files is using 6.57gb, downloads 116kb, audio 152kb, pictures 5mb, and application 349mb. It seems like I am missing 8gb. Any ideas of what I should do?
Thanks,
andrx471
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, when you make a backup with CWM it will be several gigs and will be in a hidden directory. I had the same issue with only one backup of the stock rom. I had to place my backups on the external card and now I have a few more gigs on the internal card. Remember that CWM will not work on an external card over 32 gig. I had to sell my 64 and buy a 32 for that reason.
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, when you make a backup with CWM it will be several gigs and will be in a hidden directory. I had the same issue with only one backup of the stock rom. I had to place my backups on the external card and now I have a few more gigs on the internal card. Remember that CWM will not work on an external card over 32 gig. I had to sell my 64 and buy a 32 for that reason.
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Thanks for getting back to me skiddingus. I have a 32GB SD card coming in the mail today, so hopefully there wont be anymore issues with storage. I do have a couple questions before I do this, though.
1. I see some people using CWM and others using TWRP. Are there any advantages to one or the other. or is it just a matter of preference?
2. When I make a backup or install a new ROM using either CWM or TWRP, are there specific options I should be selecting to backup or install a new ROM to my SD card?
Thanks a lot for your help!
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, when you make a backup with CWM it will be several gigs and will be in a hidden directory. I had the same issue with only one backup of the stock rom. I had to place my backups on the external card and now I have a few more gigs on the internal card. Remember that CWM will not work on an external card over 32 gig. I had to sell my 64 and buy a 32 for that reason.
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Hi skiddingus,
Any chance you could share your method for navigating to/accessing that hidden directory? I made backups and now my phone memory is almost all chewed up. I also did a backup (or two if the chunk of memory that's been eaten up is any indication) on the SD Card and would like to clear up that space as well.
I've been using TWRP for a while now, but unless it's been changed, all CWM backups were stored under a directory called Clockworkmod."
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I've been using TWRP for a while now, but unless it's been changed, all CWM backups were stored under a directory called Clockworkmod."
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Cool, thanks for the confirmation. I was able to find that one, seemed the logical place for CWM backups to live, and I erased the contents after making sure I had a reserve copy on my laptop and a stock backup as well. However, I'm still seeing an abundance of used space and no explanation for where it's gone just by looking at the directory names. I do recognize that "miscellaneous files" is also where "System Memory" lies, taking up just under 6.4 Gb.
Any other thoughts?
See attached pic for reference.
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Hi skiddingus,
Any chance you could share your method for navigating to/accessing that hidden directory? I made backups and now my phone memory is almost all chewed up. I also did a backup (or two if the chunk of memory that's been eaten up is any indication) on the SD Card and would like to clear up that space as well.
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I never did find the directory that CWM stores the backups. On Android 4.2 and up I believe it stores them in a secure hidden directory. I used the applications to delete the backups. I installed ROMmanager and used its "manage backups" option to clear my CWM backups. I used TWRP to clear its backups as well. I currently use CWM for my backups and I backup to and external sd card (32gb or less of course). My internal card has neary 7gb free and shows a total space of 9.62Gb. I have almost 2gb of apps.
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Thanks for getting back to me skiddingus. I have a 32GB SD card coming in the mail today, so hopefully there wont be anymore issues with storage. I do have a couple questions before I do this, though.
1. I see some people using CWM and others using TWRP. Are there any advantages to one or the other. or is it just a matter of preference?
2. When I make a backup or install a new ROM using either CWM or TWRP, are there specific options I should be selecting to backup or install a new ROM to my SD card?
Thanks a lot for your help!
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Hey Andrx,
UNtil Skiddingus gets back to you, I can offer some semi-n00b impressions:
1. I've used both CWM and TWRP through my process of backing up the stock system, rooting, flashing Synergy ROM, and then de-bloating, and I can say that from a purely subjective perspective, I prefer TWRP. Mostly bc of the GUI - it's a little easier to navigate IMO. From what I understand, they basically do the same thing when it comes to recovery and flashing. I'm sure there are some technical differences that more experienced users can explain, but for a base user like me, TWRP seems to take care of my needs
2. AFAIK, If you're using TWRP, the partitions that are preselected when you choose the "Backup" tab - Boot, System, and Data - are all you need to choose for a backup of your current system. However, I think you may be either using the terms incorrectly or have an incorrect impression of how to flash a ROM. From what I understand, a custom ROM is not flashed (installed) to your SD card. You can designate your SD card as a place to store your backups of said roms or your stock ROM, but flashing a ROM sends that to your phone's internal storage to take up space in "System Memory".
Hope this helps clarify a bit, and my apologies in advance if I've botched any of this explanation. Senior members, please correct anythign I've said that may lead Andrx astray.
Cheers!
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I never did find the directory that CWM stores the backups. On Android 4.2 and up I believe it stores them in a secure hidden directory. I used the applications to delete the backups. I installed ROMmanager and used its "manage backups" option to clear my CWM backups. I used TWRP to clear its backups as well. I currently use CWM for my backups and I backup to and external sd card (32gb or less of course). My internal card has neary 7gb free and shows a total space of 9.62Gb. I have almost 2gb of apps.
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Awesome, this is definitely helpful. I'll work with those apps to clear it up and report back. Thank you!!
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I never did find the directory that CWM stores the backups. On Android 4.2 and up I believe it stores them in a secure hidden directory. I used the applications to delete the backups. I installed ROMmanager and used its "manage backups" option to clear my CWM backups. I used TWRP to clear its backups as well. I currently use CWM for my backups and I backup to and external sd card (32gb or less of course). My internal card has neary 7gb free and shows a total space of 9.62Gb. I have almost 2gb of apps.
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So!! Using TWRP, I chose: "Advanced" --> "File Manager" and then navigate to /data/media/clockworkmod/backup/xxxxweirddaterangexxx
Then press "Select" (from within the "xxxweirddaterangexxx" directory) and deleted an un-needed backup file that seemed to be almost 3GB in size.
REMEMBER TO STORE YOUR BACKUP ELSEWHERE IF YOU WANT TO KEEP A COPY.
Once I did this, my phone storage showed 7.1 GB available, whereas before it showed 4.3. W00t.
Thanks again for your help skiddingus!!
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, when you make a backup with CWM it will be several gigs and will be in a hidden directory. I had the same issue with only one backup of the stock rom. I had to place my backups on the external card and now I have a few more gigs on the internal card. Remember that CWM will not work on an external card over 32 gig. I had to sell my 64 and buy a 32 for that reason.
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OH No! This explains why I can not NANDROID with CWM to my 64 GB SD card.
I have a 64 GB SD card in my newly purchased S4. Is there any work around for this or hope of an update to fix this limitation?
swieder711 said:
OH No! This explains why I can not NANDROID with CWM to my G4 GB SD card.
I have a 64 GB SD card in my newly purchased S4. Is there any work around for this or hope of an update to fix this limitation?
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Not that I have found. I think I remember reading somewhere that it is a licensing issue with the ex-fat support. CWM does not want to pay for it. Is this correct anyone?
Does Team Win have the same issue?
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I switched from cwm to twrp and can create a nandroid on my 64gb card.
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swieder711 said:
OH No! This explains why I can not NANDROID with CWM to my 64 GB SD card.
I have a 64 GB SD card in my newly purchased S4. Is there any work around for this or hope of an update to fix this limitation?
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Yes there is. I have a SanDisk 64gb micro SD card and when I purchased it for my note 2 I had the same problem. What I did is format it to fat32 instead of ex fat using ease us partition the free version here's the link
http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm after doing that i have had no problems it works in CWM just fine and for all other tasks in my note 2 and my s4. I tried a different program before I found easeus and it seemed to work but every time I did it after it my backups would just disappear.
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My phone came broken, it wouldn't make phone calls. I tried a bunch of different roms and none of them worked. Now I can't even boot into a rom and it just hangs at the splash screen of whatever rom I flash. In Twrp is says that it cant mount anything in the internal memory card pretty much.
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My phone came broken, it wouldn't make phone calls. I tried a bunch of different roms and none of them worked. Now I can't even boot into a rom and it just hangs at the splash screen of whatever rom I flash. In Twrp is says that it cant mount anything in the internal memory card pretty much.
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If TWRP can't find it or fix it, then you will probably have to be S-OFF and RUU back to stock.
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If TWRP can't find it or fix it, then you will probably have to be S-OFF and RUU back to stock.
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Is there really no other way? At this point I feel like just not having a phone. I have been more than a day now with a bricked phone. It just doesn't seem worth it anymore. I can't get s-off because I need to be on a stock rom to do so. I can't install a stock rom because everyone I download doesn't work.
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Is there really no other way? At this point I feel like just not having a phone. I have been more than a day now with a bricked phone. It just doesn't seem worth it anymore. I can't get s-off because I need to be on a stock rom to do so. I can't install a stock rom because everyone I download doesn't work.
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have you tried using twrp 2.6.3.0 going into Mount minting the internal sd (emmc) and nothing else and reformatting it from your pc
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have you tried using twrp 2.6.3.0 going into Mount minting the internal sd (emmc) and nothing else and reformatting it from your pc
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It won't let me select the internal sd but it lets me select everything else.
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It won't let me select the internal sd but it lets me select everything else.
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at the bottom of the selections under the "Mount" tab in TWRP do you get area that says Micro sd or EMMC and storage space size
still having problem??
"It won't let me select the internal sd but it lets me select everything else."
If you are unlocked or S-0ff and still having this issue, I would suggest installing Amon-Ra recovery
via PH98IMG.zip.
Start recovery, choose USB-MS toggle, connect to Windows machine,
choose toggle internal SD, then format it. could do the external storage to format as well.
Now both should be visible and ready to take your ROM flash or nandroid restore.