So what is consider as weak wifi?!.
I've recently got my prime and have been testing the wifi of the prime to my sg2 and vibrant...
Standing next to my router i get about -45dBm while my sg2 gets like -33dBm. The dl speed is also slightly faster on the sg2. Then when i compared the signal to my vibrant....my vibrant gets about -45 to -50dBm.
So just curious is that normal? Or weak? Or any other opinions...
Thanks
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Don't feed into all that weak wifi hype. If you even have to ask then that means your device is performing fine. OR YOU won't even notice anything unless someone tells you its bad n starts making you think that.
Base it off of performance, not what Tom, ****, n Jane tell you..lol
Try running the same test on the same devices but move farther away and test each result. the "common" problem is the rate at which the wifi looses strength is roughly around 20'. But this is all based on individual results i have read. Others claim there are no issues or problems. To each their own.
My question for you is, When and where was yours purchased from? Im curious if the newer purchases are as common to show issues.
For me it's pretty simple to prove.
From family rooms and bedrooms I can get 16Mbps.
From kitchen and dining room I get 2Mbps, while the iPad right beside pulls in 16Mbps still.
I used wifi analyzer to find what channel was best in G band than configured my router to it and my prime pulls the same or better numbers than my SGII, daughters iphone4s and wifes Kindle fire. All devices have better speedtest results since I switched to channel 1 on G band I wish I would have known this along time ago because places that I previously had weak or no wifi now have a strong signal.The configuring router thing has been posted hundreds of times on this forum
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Hab1 said:
For me it's pretty simple to prove.
From family rooms and bedrooms I can get 16Mbps.
From kitchen and dining room I get 2Mbps, while the iPad right beside pulls in 16Mbps still.
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My experience is pretty similar. Near the router, all devices get a pretty fast download speed, above 11 Mbps using Speedtest. Farther away, at about 20-25 feet, Prime slows to 10% of that, while the other devices are still up near 11 Mbps.
Don't go looking for problems. If it is running fine for you and seems fast why try to get technical about whether it is weak or not.
I brought mines recently on the 21st of Jan.
For mines wifi seems okay when compare with other devices when there is no/few obstacles...ie i get the same speed but different signal strength when Im on the lobby of my neighbors(1 house away) while my router is on the 3rd floor.
But when Im in the lobby within my building my prime gets very weak signal and often disconnect while my sg2 remain connected with 2-3 bars and about 4-5mb dl
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Agreed. But Im just worry if it will work within campus since i only brought it for skool. And bb only gives 14 day return window...
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I havent noticed weak wifi with mine as well. To be honest, I'm actually seen the exact same performance with my Galaxy Nexus and Ipad 2.
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I havent noticed weak wifi with mine as well. To be honest, I'm actually seen the exact same performance with my Galaxy Nexus and Ipad 2.
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Maybe you are checking WiFi close to the router? Most folks that report WiFi problems (including me) report that near the router is fine, but that 20 feet or more away, the Prime's download speed is WAY less than other devices. (my Prime is about 10% of other devices at distance.)
Yep, standing right beside the router I can get 30Mbps. This is in the basement. I live in a large bungalow. Standing right above the router on the first floor I can get about 18Mbps and then it drops from there and very quickly. In the dining room, which is main floor but about 30-40 linear ft distance from the router, the speed drops to 2Mbps.
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Was getting between 5-8 mbps past week on 4 different local servers now today I am getting 15-20 mbps on those same servers has anyone else noticed this or is this just a fluke for me tonight?
Were the tests done at the same time-of-day, and none in the weekends?
Speed tests over the Internet add its variability into the mix. You should limit the test to your LAN only. A simple big-file-copy test should suffice.
Time-of-day may still matter, depending on your wireless environment's density. If it's crowded, a 9PM test would have lower performance than, say, a 3AM test.
no but ill check that now
it's odd but it seems like the more I use my prime the faster it gets in general... maybe I am getting used to it. Opera browser+ Go keyboard with tablet plug in in 10" tablet format is ftw
I've had the opposite experience with speed test results. After the update yesterday, I'm getting a puny 3mbps when I usually averaged 20+ on a 35+ network.
distance is key
People keep just mentioning speeds but not their location in respect to the router.
In the same room as router I get 20 mbps. Next room over 1 wall I drop down to 5 mbps.
In my bedroom 2 walls I drop to about 3mbps. Meanwhile my HTC tbolt is getting 12 mbps.
Is this kind of quick dropoff common for other users
I get .5 to 2.5 mbps on my prime my gnex gets ~10 and so does my dads iPad on our wifi. I got one of the bad units
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I get .5 to 2.5 mbps on my prime my gnex gets ~10 and so does my dads iPad on our wifi. I got one of the bad units
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There was speculation among some of the Prime reviews that router brand matters.
In fact I think one of them made of a chart with speedtests from the same location and different routers.
time of day, location or distance from router, router brand, and network settings will all affect download and upload speeds. too many variables in the mix.
I tried doing a speedtest test yesterday, and the first time got a 5mbs DL and 1mbs UL. I then did the test on my phone and it said 18mbs DL and 5bms UL. So I was like wtf until I noticed that the app chose 2 different servers. I changed it up to the closest to me and what a difference. I hit 25mbs DL and 5mbs UL on my TP and I got 22mbs DL and 5mbs Ul on my phone. I am still rocking the .29 update since I can't update to the .33 just yet.
My Wifi speeds got quite a bit faster from the .33 update.
Before the update speedtest.net app showed around 15-20Mbit/s now it's up to 25-30Mbit/s.
My internet connection has a constant speed of 32Mbit/s which is working all day no matter what time. Upload speeds are always 1Mbit/s which is the maximum of my line.
So I got a perfectly working Touchscreen and faster Wifi with this update --> perfectly happy now!
Edit: location was both times the same ofc.
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People keep just mentioning speeds but not their location in respect to the router.
In the same room as router I get 20 mbps. Next room over 1 wall I drop down to 5 mbps.
In my bedroom 2 walls I drop to about 3mbps. Meanwhile my HTC tbolt is getting 12 mbps.
Is this kind of quick dropoff common for other users
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Yes, this is exactly what I'm suffering from as well.
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I get .5 to 2.5 mbps on my prime my gnex gets ~10 and so does my dads iPad on our wifi. I got one of the bad units
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I'm pretty sure they're all "bad" units. People who claim they have no wifi problems just aren't comparing the speed to other devices at decent distances from the router. Rather, I suspect they're basing their conclusions on the fact that browsing is fine.
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For any other WiFi device I use on my network, I can use the results from SpeedTest as a true estimate of the actual speeds that device can achieve, but I don't feel that way about the Prime.
While my SpeedTest results are in the 3 Mbps range for the Prime, I have no problem HD recording from Netflix, Veetle, Youtube or VLC.
Can anyone suggest another method for testing speeds on the Prime?
Best speed on my prime was on lower odd-numbered channels 3,5,8. But I'm on a 3-4 year old linksys router running dd-wrt.
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There was speculation among some of the Prime reviews that router brand matters.
In fact I think one of them made of a chart with speedtests from the same location and different routers.
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Maybe, though I tried both my Actiontec FIOS Wireless N router
and my Linksys WRT54GL Wireless G router
and both results were bad
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There was speculation among some of the Prime reviews that router brand matters.
In fact I think one of them made of a chart with speedtests from the same location and different routers.
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We have the apple router. The extra game files for gta took 5 minutes to download on my phone, it took 45 minutes on my prime. Web browsing if fine, but downloading any data or streaming is almost impossible
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I'm pretty sure they're all "bad" units. People who claim they have no wifi problems just aren't comparing the speed to other devices at decent distances from the router. Rather, I suspect they're basing their conclusions on the fact that browsing is fine.
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not neccessarily. as i said before I tested Prime against my ipad1 and Atrix4g phone and Prime consistently pulled faster speeds regardless of distance and signal strength shown. did the same with atrix4g. and Prime using wifi analyzer. Prime was right on par with signal strength of phone. the Prime is just more sensitive to changes. but once again, it never affected its speeds. you have me, Diamondback2010 and a lot more showing great wifi download and upload speeds. maybe those who are experiencing issues need to check their router settings or something. Because to say everyone has bad wifi is incorrect. especially since 12/22 my prime has been connected to my wireless network nonstop. never dropped a connection or had issues with speed dropping off no matter where I was or how far from router.
edit: just did a quick speedtest.net test on Comcast network on Netgesr router
Download: 25mb
upload: 4mb
ping: 16ms
that's pretty damn good in my book n I've pulled even higher speeds on Prime b4
For those of you noticing poor WiFi range and wondering whether you have a defective Prime from the much talked about early defective batch (like me), I suggest you read this article:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5178/an-update-on-transformer-prime-battery-life-wifi-issues
The reviewer in the article had both a defective Prime and a non-defective, replacement Prime, and compared the WiFi between the two.
Basically, the defective Prime had a cap of about 2 Mbps at any location. That is, even right near the router, the defective Prime wouldn't pull more than 2 Mbps, and was averaging about 0.5 Mbps in speed tests.
The non-defective replacement Prime the reviewer later got fixed this 2 Mbps cap problem, but still didn't have great speeds when moved away from the router. For example, the non-defective Prime the reviewer had got about 10-16 Mbps, while the original Transformer got about 34-37 Mbps at the same location.
So for those of you considering returning or RMA'ing your Prime because you get big speed drop-offs when moving away from the router, I strongly suggest you reconsider, since it seems this is a limitation/design flaw in all Primes. Stated simply, if you're not capped at a ridiculously low speed while at any location, your Prime is not defective.
My Wi-Fi is really bad since the ICS update. Is anyone else having the same issue?
My wifi is pretty good, better reception than my Android phone.
Mine seems the same as before which is just fine. It does better than my Droid charge for sure.
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Wifi was great before ICS and is still great afterwards. Better reception than my T-bolt.
I can be outside in the yard on the opposite side of my house from the router and still get 3 bars and great speeds. I guess I just got lucky.
Mine is the same as before, too. Can't really complain.
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I've been holding off on the Prime due too all the talk about bad wifi speeds and range. Are you guys saying that it is actually not an issue? I don't care about the GPS that much, even though it has been horribly handled by Asus. But wifi is a "make it or break it" part of the product for me. Is it worse than the TF101? I have seen a lot of posts that it is worse, but you guys say that it is really good.
In doubt...
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Not an issue on mine. I have conducted tests against my laptop/tf101/ipad1...my prime is right in the mix.
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No real improvements here. Just about the same. I'm going to change my router's 2.4 Ghz band back to combined b/g/n as opposed to isolated g (which helped my Prime a LOT) to test out if ICS truly helped at all.
I'm on ICS and just switched to g only from a/b/g/n, and my speed greatly improved, so it doesn't seem that ICS made a difference in that regard. Wish I knew why using g only helps so much with the speed on the Prime. I'm in an apartment complex with many signals, and I'm wondering if that had anything to do with it.
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I'm finding that I get an extra bar indicated, but I don't think it's really any better or worse with ICS.
My experience has been a bit odd with it. As far as the signal indicator goes, my wifi reception SEEMS worse than on Honeycomb. However, I haven't lost signal at all and my speeds are great.
Overall, I'd say it's about the same, but the indicator seems to fluctuate much easier.
Same as before (which is still weak), but it is still not as good as any of my laptops, Skyrocket, Blackberry, or iPhone.
I'm actually getting better wifi range to my router.
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I'm on ICS and just switched to g only from a/b/g/n, and my speed greatly improved, so it doesn't seem that ICS made a difference in that regard. Wish I knew why using g only helps so much with the speed on the Prime. I'm in an apartment complex with many signals, and I'm wondering if that had anything to do with it.
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Same here, I live in an apartment and there are a lot of WiFi networks in close proximity.
What kind of router do you have? I have a dual band Belkin n600.
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Same here, I live in an apartment and there are a lot of WiFi networks in close proximity.
What kind of router do you have? I have a dual band Belkin n600.
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Interesting. I'm going to do some research into whether being near so many other wireless signals may have something to do with g only performing better than a/b/g/n when I get a chance. Then again, devices like my laptop and iPad1 pull the same speed regardless of whether my router is set to g only or a/b/g/n...ugh.
I'm using a D-Link DIR-655, which is not a dual band router.
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My Wi-Fi is really bad since the ICS update. Is anyone else having the same issue?
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Mine is by far worse!
I barely even have a chance to tell before my Prime reboots. But it shows it as having a poor signal even when I'm right next to it and it never actually connects. Just says obtaining IP address.
With honeycomb my phone (evo 3d) would get more reception, it could see networks the prime wouldn't. Since the update my prime not only sees all the networks its getting great speeds even on the weak ones.
Same after ICS, which is good.
It's about the same for me. But I had some issues with rebooting at first, but now it is better.
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Mine is by far worse!
I barely even have a chance to tell before my Prime reboots. But it shows it as having a poor signal even when I'm right next to it and it never actually connects. Just says obtaining IP address.
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Go into the WiFi settings, "forget" the network, and then reconnect. I had a similar issue after the ICS update on my home network and this fixed it for me.
Also, people shouldn't rely on the number of bars the WiFi indicator in the bottom right has. I've found this to be very inaccurate, and almost useless. I've had no bars or one bar and pulled in speeds just as good as when I had 2 or 3 bars. Instead of basing your assumptions on this, use the speedtest.net app and the wifi analyzer app.
I don't have a solution, but I think I know what a pretty big contributing factor is towards some people saying WiFi is on par with other devices, and others saying it is not.
I've seen this mentioned in another WiFi thread by another user, but hasn't really gotten much attention, so I figured it deserved its own thread so people see it.
It appears that for some reason, the Prime does not like wireless N networks unless it is extremely close to the router. For example, when using wireless N, my Prime will pull over 30 Mbps when within 5 feet of my router. However, as soon as I start walking away, the Prime drops in speed at an embarrassingly bad rate. It goes from about 30 Mbps down to 3 Mbps down at about 20 feet away from my router. My other devices (Galaxy Nexus, iPad1, laptop) do not exhibit this behavior.
However, if you're using a wireless G network instead, the dropoff isn't nearly as significant. For example, when using wireless G, I'll pull about 19 Mbps when directly near the router, and still get about 9-13 Mbps when 20 feet away from the router, which is somewhat on par with my other devices.
My conclusions:
1) The Prime does not work well with wireless N networks
2) People who see speeds consistent with their other devices when not near their routers likely do not have a wireless N router (or have wireless N disabled).
Does anyone have any opinion on whether this may be software related?
Im finding exactly that rubbish WiFi on the Prime as soon as I walk away from my N-series router.
There definitely is something wrong with the Primes WiFi with mine, could be firmware related.
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Im finding exactly that rubbish WiFi on the Prime as soon as I walk away from my N-series router.
There definitely is something wrong with the Primes WiFi with mine, could be firmware related.
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Have you tried switching to G only mode to see if the Prime performs better? I know it may not be a permanent or acceptable solution, but that's what I'm doing for the time being, as I live in a relatively small apartment and don't need the increased range of wireless N.
The fact that the Prime can pull decent speeds at a decent range while on wireless G only has me hopeful that it is not hardware related, and can indeed be fixed (e.g., improved) with firmware.
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Have you tried switching to G only mode to see if the Prime performs better? I know it may not be a permanent or acceptable solution, but that's what I'm doing for the time being, as I live in a relatively small apartment and don't need the increased range of wireless N.
The fact that the Prime can pull decent speeds at a decent range while on wireless G only has me hopeful that it is not hardware related, and can indeed be fixed (e.g., improved) with firmware.
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I only have N here, all other devices work good apart from the Prime.
I tried using WiFi Analyzer to see which channel was best being 11 as my router was set to auto but that made no difference on the Prime.
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ToneyEricsson said:
I only have N here, all other devices work good apart from the Prime.
I tried using WiFi Analyzer to see which channel was best being 11 as my router was set to auto but that made no difference on the Prime.
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If you want to try it out, most, if not all N routers allow you to disable N and only transmit on a, b, or g. That's what I did on my N router. I changed transmission from 802.11a/b/g/n to 802.11g only.
I concur that all other devices work great on N except for the Prime, which is annoying.
I have AT&T Uverse and there wireless router is b/g only. I get download speeds of 12mbps in my plan. I was getting 11.3 to 11.5 on my OG IPad and my TFP oh and my motorola Atrix at any place in my house or my decks. Same ranges. My router is in the middle of my home so I'm probably no more than 50-75 feet from it.
So, I feel there could be credibility to what the OP says based on my setup.
Thanks a lot for this post. My router is only G and B but I decided to test this myself so I changed my router from Mixed to G-only and it increased my speeds by over 3MB/s (5MB/s to 8.1MB/s) when downstairs in my living room. I thought my previous tests were strange when it would sometimes spike up to 8MB/s but finish on 5MB/s everytime.
Anyway, very useful post which could help many on here. Maybe this could be fixed in a firmware update or do you reckon the Wi-Fi recievers in the Prime are designed that way?
My Wirless N router works fine with the Prime at both short and long distances.
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My Wirless N router works fine with the Prime at both short and long distances.
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I agree mine work fine also, i have a cape cod style house and my N router is in my basement I get 2 bars of strength in the "attic" part of my house, running about 12-13mps. Even when i run Wifi Analyzer on both my Galaxy Nexus and my Prime they are both very much the same DB.
I've got to say I think the Wi-Fi issues are software, not hardware. Using Wi-Fi analyzer, with my thunderbolt and prime in same location they have the same signal strength, but the thunderbolt is much faster downloading. I don't think the back is the problem with the prime WiFi, and they should be able to fix it with a firmware update.
Someone else also suggested that you can get better/higher wifi speeds with a lower channel. People have tried switching to channels 1 and 3. Maybe while trying ONLY 802.11g, try also using N at lower channels.
Lower channels = lower frequency = higher energy, which may be better able to get through the aluminum back and improve speeds?
nyijedi said:
I don't have a solution, but I think I know what a pretty big contributing factor is towards some people saying WiFi is on par with other devices, and others saying it is not.
I've seen this mentioned in another WiFi thread by another user, but hasn't really gotten much attention, so I figured it deserved its own thread so people see it.
It appears that for some reason, the Prime does not like wireless N networks unless it is extremely close to the router. For example, when using wireless N, my Prime will pull over 30 Mbps when within 5 feet of my router. However, as soon as I start walking away, the Prime drops in speed at an embarrassingly bad rate. It goes from about 30 Mbps down to 3 Mbps down at about 20 feet away from my router. My other devices (Galaxy Nexus, iPad1, laptop) do not exhibit this behavior.
However, if you're using a wireless G network instead, the dropoff isn't nearly as significant. For example, when using wireless G, I'll pull about 19 Mbps when directly near the router, and still get about 9-13 Mbps when 20 feet away from the router, which is somewhat on par with my other devices.
My conclusions:
1) The Prime does not work well with wireless N networks
2) People who see speeds consistent with their other devices when not near their routers likely do not have a wireless N router (or have wireless N disabled).
Does anyone have any opinion on whether this may be software related?
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1. What channel are you using on the N band? Also, what router and firmware?
As for testing at this point I am pulling 36Mbps on N at 15 feet and 34Mbps on G (on a Netgear WNDR4500 or ASUS RT-N56U). We will look into this behavior shortly.
Many wifi problems stem from suboptimal router configuration. Mixed-mode use (as opposed to G-only or N-only) can also cause speed degradation.
Suggest some simple steps to troubleshoot slow wifi speed:
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-basics/30664-5-ways-to-fix-slow-80211n-speed
Alternately, you can try a different router or access point, either as replacement or in tandem with the existing unit.
Great idea making this thread as I was going to make similar one but never got around to after fiasco in other thread..lmfao.
There was this guy that posted he was going to return his Prime because his wifi wasn't acting right and he was slow downloads speeds and big dropoffs n such. I told him the exact same things you posted here. Be came back n thanked me n said That did the trick. Now his wifi is working great and is on par with his other devices. So now he is keeping his Prime.
Ill bet you that majority of people experiencing wifi issues are because of the reasons stated in this post. A simple network settings change can can make a night n day difference in wireless performance.
This thread should be stickied also or merged with other one then stickied. This will help alot of people out having wifi issues. And its such a simple n fast fix also.
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Someone else also suggested that you can get better/higher wifi speeds with a lower channel. People have tried switching to channels 1 and 3. Maybe while trying ONLY 802.11g, try also using N at lower channels.
Lower channels = lower frequency = higher energy, which may be better able to get through the aluminum back and improve speeds?
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this was said to be true also. I saw that thread that had same info in it.
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1. What channel are you using on the N band? Also, what router and firmware?
As for testing at this point I am pulling 36Mbps on N at 15 feet and 34Mbps on G (on a Netgear WNDR4500 or ASUS RT-N56U). We will look into this behavior shortly.
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Gary,
Thank you very much for looking into this. I ran some additional tests so I could supply you with some (hopefully) helpful information.
The following tests were performed all using channel 1 on my router. Note that I do see faster speeds on my Prime on channel 1 with both G and N transmissions. The router is a D-Link DIR-655 with firmware version 1.35NA.
The WiFi version of my Prime is V6.1.1.17.
To get accurate speed results, I transferred a large file locally from my PC to my Prime and my Galaxy Nexus. I let each transfer go for a few minutes and noted the highest speed. Below are my results:
Wireless N Mode Only
Directly Next to Router
Galaxy Nexus: 28.1 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 29.84 Mbps
25 Feet Away From Router, 2 Thin Walls In Between
Galaxy Nexus: 20.48 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 6.68 Mbps
Wireless G Mode Only
Directly Next to Router
Galaxy Nexus: 17.8 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 22.04 Mbps
25 Feet Away From Router, 2 Thin Walls In Between
Galaxy Nexus: 14.4 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 10.32 Mbps
Two important things I noticed from these tests:
1) The Prime actually downloads faster than my Galaxy Nexus when right next to the router, but consistently downloads slower when further from the router.
2) Although the Prime drops off more than my Nexus at a distance of 25 feet from the router, it is at least in the same ballpark when the router is set to G only. However, when the router is set to N only, as you can see from the results, it's not even close.
Again, thank you very much for looking into this for all of us.
I have a b and g router. changed it to g-only and tried changing the channel from 11 to 1 and 3. None of it helped. I use a Netgear WGT624 v3 router with firmware V2.0.10_1.0.1NA
I get a single strength reading between 3 and 4 bars mostly when sitting next to the router but when stepping away it drops to the 1 dot signal strength or none at all. I don't understand what happened in my case because up until yesterday I was getting excellent wi-fi performance no matter where I was in my house. I had my Prime for a week and it was working perfectly. Then yesterday the wi-fi strength just died out. I have requested a refund from Office Depot's website for it but I would love to be able to cancel the refund request and keep the Prime if I felt sure that this issue could get resolved. Office Depot will be picking my tablet up on the 19th. I'll keep an eye on the forums between now and then to see if anything changes or any other ideas pop up for things to try on my end.
Actually did some tests myself today, comparing between the TF101, TF201 and the SGS2... All tests are done with wifi-analyzer and speedtest.
Linksys E2000 router, wifi g-only at channel 1
Close to router (bout 2.5m):
SGS2: ~-45dBm, ~13.5mbps
TF101: ~-40dBm, ~13.5mbps
TF201: ~-45dBm, ~13.5mpbs
Farther away, same room still (bout 8.5m)
SGS2: ~-45dBm, ~13.5mbps
TF101: ~-45dBm, ~13.5mbps
TF201: ~-50dBm, ~13.5mpbs
Kitchen (bout 11, wall and closes in between)
SGS2: ~-70dBm, ~7.5mbps
TF101: ~-65dBm, ~10mbps
TF201: ~-67dBm, ~5mpbs
Other room (about 6m, 2 walls in between)
SGS2: ~-65dBm, ~6mbps
TF101: ~-65dBm, ~10mbps
TF201: ~-70dBm, ~7mpbs
The signal is not that different actually, but speeds can be... THe problem is that within a number of runs in speedtest the changes can be pretty huge. Ranging from 2mbps to 10 mbps... No clue if it's my connection itself (got a 20mbit connection) or the router.
Also have another wifi router so might give that one a try too later...
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Gary,
Thank you very much for looking into this. I ran some additional tests so I could supply you with some (hopefully) helpful information.
The following tests were performed all using channel 1 on my router. Note that I do see faster speeds on my Prime on channel 1 with both G and N transmissions. The router is a D-Link DIR-655 with firmware version 1.35NA.
The WiFi version of my Prime is V6.1.1.17.
To get accurate speed results, I transferred a large file locally from my PC to my Prime and my Galaxy Nexus. I let each transfer go for a few minutes and noted the highest speed. Below are my results:
Wireless N Mode Only
Directly Next to Router
Galaxy Nexus: 28.1 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 29.84 Mbps
25 Feet Away From Router, 2 Thin Walls In Between
Galaxy Nexus: 20.48 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 6.68 Mbps
Wireless G Mode Only
Directly Next to Router
Galaxy Nexus: 17.8 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 22.04 Mbps
25 Feet Away From Router, 2 Thin Walls In Between
Galaxy Nexus: 14.4 Mbps
Transformer Prime: 10.32 Mbps
Two important things I noticed from these tests:
1) The Prime actually downloads faster than my Galaxy Nexus when right next to the router, but consistently downloads slower when further from the router.
2) Although the Prime drops off more than my Nexus at a distance of 25 feet from the router, it is at least in the same ballpark when the router is set to G only. However, when the router is set to N only, as you can see from the results, it's not even close.
Again, thank you very much for looking into this for all of us.
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This is almost exactly the behavior i see. In my case it is even a little more extreme, as i actually get occasional wifi crashes (the wifi icon on the prime disappears, then reappears and reconnects after a few seconds) with my router set to GN or N only. Sitting next to the router, speeds on N only are very erratic, ranging from 6-12 Mbps. On G-only, i get a solid 10-12 Mbps.
Overall i find the speeds to be extremely slow. my other devices (G only Droid X included) have no problem handily besting the download speeds at any range.
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ToneyEricsson said:
Im finding exactly that rubbish WiFi on the Prime as soon as I walk away from my N-series router.
There definitely is something wrong with the Primes WiFi with mine, could be firmware related.
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part of the issue is, we don't know which chip the azurewave has for wifi.
Because the OS has drivers for both the 4330 and the 4329 installed in system.
check your etc for driver confs.
I one of the few userr who don't have any problems. wireless n does,'t work will on 2.4 even my laptop has pronlem trying to get n speeds they is why i went to 5 mhz to get full n speeds
Is it just me or is anybody else having a problem with weak wifi signal on their phones? I know its not my router or connection because on my g note i always had at least 3 bars and speed test always gave me a constant speed of 10-11mbps. But now on my tmobile s3 i barely have a wifi signal shows 1 bar , and my wifi calling even says you are almost out of coverage area. And speed test is only giving me 2-4 mbps??
Anybody else also expirencing this? Any fixes, do you think there is something wrong with my phone, should i pay the restocking fee and return it?
Mine is actually better than gnote i had on att. My wife's gs3, she said wifi speed is faster on gs3 than her previous s2 skyrocket. We are VERY pleased by these awesome phones.
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Same here. Although the speed is amazingly fast, the signal reception is worse than that of my iPhone and iPad. Is there a fix to this? Other than that, this device is exceptional.
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I get good speeds on anything like loading videos and Web pages but when I check the forum it takes is lovely time to open
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Looks good on mine so far. Speedtests gave me 30M on my 50M connection
Well I just rooted my s3 and reset and re connected my wifi. Seems to be doing much better I now get at least 2bars sometimes three and speed test is showing 6-7mbps which is better.
But dang 20mbps you guys have some fast wifi. I'm jealous
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Mine seems fine compared to my other devices (ipad 3, SGSII, iphone4) but I am also rooted not sure if that affects it somehow or not. But no complaints here on signal strength or speed
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Is it just me or is anybody else having a problem with weak wifi signal on their phones? I know its not my router or connection because on my g note i always had at least 3 bars and speed test always gave me a constant speed of 10-11mbps. But now on my tmobile s3 i barely have a wifi signal shows 1 bar , and my wifi calling even says you are almost out of coverage area. And speed test is only giving me 2-4 mbps??
Anybody else also expirencing this? Any fixes, do you think there is something wrong with my phone, should i pay the restocking fee and return it?
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The wifi signal isn't so bad that I'd call it weak(my Transformer Prime is WEAK), but it's not so great. Depending on what phone you were using before the gs3, it may seem weak though. I use different devices alot, and the gs3 is not the best or worst when it comes to wifi. The gs2 has great wifi, the Galaxy note soes too. The prime is terrible, and the gs3 is probably slightly better than the sensation in my opinion. I'm upstairs with the router downstairs, and I get 10mbps, but right in front of the router I get 30+. I've also noticed that it can depend on how I'm holding the phone. It never knocks the signal out, but it does weaken it when I'm using it in landscape. Maybe you could move your router to more central location?
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Hey guys, I have fios with 50/25 mbps I can get around 40 with my laptop but my note is getting low teens. I switched from a wep security to wpa2 security whichever increased my wifi on my laptop but not on my phones (note 2 and ssg3).
Any ideas how to increase this? Am I missing a setting when connecting to wifi? At the moment, my 4g is faster than my wifi.
Upload speeds are fine... Actually higher than my download speeds. Seems like something is restricting my download speed.
Thanks in advance.
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Hey guys, I have fios with 50/25 mbps I can get around 40 with my laptop but my note is getting low teens. I switched from a wep security to wpa2 security whichever increased my wifi on my laptop but not on my phones (note 2 and ssg3).
Any ideas how to increase this? Am I missing a setting when connecting to wifi? At the moment, my 4g is faster than my wifi.
Upload speeds are fine... Actually higher than my download speeds. Seems like something is restricting my download speed.
Thanks in advance.
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I have FiOS as well and encounter the same "problem...". My chrombook gets above 40 Mbps and my Note 2 gets around 18-25 even standing next to my router...I just think its the way it is to be honest...I really don't know but just wanted to share that I'm seeing the same thing here...it really doesn't inhibit my experience at all 18-25 Mbps is perfectly fine for cell phone downloads etc.
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I have FiOS as well and encounter the same "problem...". My chrombook gets above 40 Mbps and my Note 2 gets around 18-25 even standing next to my router...I just think its the way it is to be honest...I really don't know but just wanted to share that I'm seeing the same thing here...it really doesn't inhibit my experience at all 18-25 Mbps is perfectly fine for cell phone downloads etc.
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Same set up here...with similar results. I did some research on this as my ipad2 (which is now in a drawer thanks to the Note 2 BTW) wasn't getting anywhere near the speed I would have expected despite it supposedly being N compatible (my lenovo laptop gets 45 Mbps down all the time). Best answer I could find is that not all wireless radios are equal and can't handle the same speeds.
I have a 25 download connection on FIOS, and am sitting in my living room about ten feet from my router. I just ran a test on my laptop and phone via speedtest.net, and got 24/5 on the laptop and 25/6 on the Note 2. Initially I was going to respond to your post and say I am used to the same result you are seeing, but I just proved myself wrong.
When I'm in other parts of the house however, I do tend to see more of a performance degradation on the phone vs. the laptop...I don't have any exact data at the moment since I'm feeling too lazy to walk upstairs and repeat the test, but I do know the falloff happens more rapidly on the phone with distance from the router.
This is what I get on my Comcast 50/15 connection.
Desktop hardwired: 59Mbps down / 12Mbps up
Desktop wireless: 55Mbps down / 12Mbps up
Note 2: 40Mbps down / 16Mbps up
My desktop on wireless connects at 144Mbps, while my Note 2 only connects at 72Mbps. Both are within 4' of the router. Both using the same SpeedTest.net server.
I've noticed a huge difference in WiFi speeds between the different radios, the one that had given me the best spotted on WiFi is VRAMC3. The one that gives me the best speed on LTE is L4. The speed definitely differs from which radio you flash, that's why I wish Samsung would give our devs access to their radio tools and let us build our own. I guarantee if they did we wouldn't see this kind of crap.
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