Does Data Roaming include text messages, or just 'data' (like Gmail, internet, etc)?
I am traveling outside the country and my Data Roaming is checked off, I have no intention of paying AT&T their outrageous fees for data, but I also do NOT want to receive any text messages. How do I disable receiving unwanted text messages while abroad?
Thanks.
I believe you just uncheck the package data option and no data can be used.
I don't think disabling data will block incoming SMS. You would need to call AT&T and have them disable incoming texts, then re-enable when you return.
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Most messaging apps have auto retrieve while roaming box to check or uncheck in main settings.Not sure what it does or doesn't do when left unchecked.
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Most messaging apps have auto retrieve while roaming box to check or uncheck in main settings. Not sure what it will or won't doi if not checked.
Anything that isn't a phone call is considered data. Text messages within your plan shouldn't count, but you never know once you leave the country.
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Anything that isn't a phone call is considered data. Text messages within your plan shouldn't count, but you never know once you leave the country.
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I believe this is the case, in that my mother in law gets miniscule data usage reported on her bill on the random occasions she gets a SMS message. However, I believe SMS are carried strictly over the cellular voice network, so I don't think they will be blocked from coming in if the OP only blocks data. As I use GV for texts and don't have an SMS plan, I don't wanna pay to test this myself (yeah I'm a cheapskate, it's only 20 cents). Try shutting off packet data and have someone send you an SMS..
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Most messaging apps have auto retrieve while roaming box to check or uncheck in main settings. Not sure what it will or won't doi if not checked.
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Thanks. Funny, I didn't even think about checking the settings.
The only setting that I believe refers to general messaging (as oppose to specific text or specific MMS) is Push Messages - Receive push messages from network. Obviously there is no explanation as to what it means
Any idea?
BTW - if I do find a 'market' messaging app which allows to shut it off when roaming, how do I completely disable messaging on the stock app? Do I need to remove it from the phone? I kind'a like the stock messaging app (probably because I don't know what I'm missing).
Installing a new messaging app should disable the stock one.
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Installing a new messaging app should disable the stock one.
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So I installed Handcent SMS (it has a settings for enabling/disabling Roaming auto retrieve and tested it, but when I checked the stock app my test messages (both in/out) were there. There was no notification of a new SMS, but once I opened the stock, the messages were there.
If you don't open it does it still count just because you received the notification?
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If you don't open it does it still count just because you received the notification?
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Yes. It counts because of the traffic through the server, not whether you read it or not. Just like a phone call counts as a minute even if you don't answer it. Any use of the network counts.
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If you don't open it does it still count just because you received the notification?
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There is no notification in the stock, I can see the message only if I open it.
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So as much as I love Google voice alot of times it won't send my messages or I receive them really delayed.... I'd like to be able to receive these texts as regulars texts and just use the gvoice app for VM... Any ideas on what to do here? However I like that now gvoice is integrated with my phone that when I do send regular texts they come from my gvoice number
Strangely I can't seem to find a setting for that at all.
I think the reason you're getting delayed texts is because you're in an area where you have aren't getting a data connection, and when that happens I've found that your messages don't send and you won't receive your messages until way later, unless you manually hit refresh after you internet access again.
Unfortunately I haven't tried this myself because I enjoy using GV for texts, but you could try reinstalling the app. I know that during the first time you start it, there's a setup which asks if you want to integrate it and all these other things. Hopefully it will give you that option again when you reinstall it. Other than that, I don't really see any options that would let you disable texts alone.
I haven't found that setting either. Google voice is awesome and all but I had to remove because of the delayed texts.
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Go on the GV website. In the top-right corner you will see your phone number, click on it. That takes you to the settings page. There you will see a section that says "Forward Calls To" and you will see your number with Sprint/GV integrated next to it. Click edit under your number there and select "Receive text messages on this phone." You might have to stop the GV app from notifying you.
I did this and now I can walk around with data off (AMAZING battery life) and still send/receive texts through the sense messaging app (Sprint network instead of data connection). They still get archived by Google so Sprint must be forwarding them to Google.
I actually have to use the app. At my college campus I have absolutely no service at all. But the campus has a canpus-wide WiFi signal so I use that to send me texts...I really hope sprint can get some service over here
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Hey, all!
Ever since i've picked up the amaze I've been having a mms bug. Can't send any pics w/o enabling the data first. When i hit send, it does display the 4g icon (i'm on stock ics, but it happened on gb as well), but in a minute or two the error message comes in. Once i enable the data and hit retry, it goes out smooth.
I haven't updated to a new sim-card yet (wi-fi calling wouldn't work on gb with the old one, but ics doesn't seem to mind), not sure if that's something to look into.
Let me know if anyone has any ideas
Thank you!
RussianBear said:
Hey, all!
Ever since i've picked up the amaze I've been having a mms bug. Can't send any pics w/o enabling the data first. When i hit send, it does display the 4g icon (i'm on stock ics, but it happened on gb as well), but in a minute or two the error message comes in. Once i enable the data and hit retry, it goes out smooth.
I haven't updated to a new sim-card yet (wi-fi calling wouldn't work on gb with the old one, but ics doesn't seem to mind), not sure if that's something to look into.
Let me know if anyone has any ideas
Thank you!
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Mms is a data-reliant service, you need data enabled to send or receive. Thus...I would not classify this as a bug...
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Xaelius said:
Mms is a data-reliant service, you need data enabled to send or receive. Thus...I would not classify this as a bug...
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i've never had a phone that did this. i think i know what the problem is: APN settings for mms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21654890&postcount=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21105129
Downloaded APN Manager and checked my settings with it. Some are not correct. However, this app doesn't work with ICS. Any suggestions on how to change the apn settings on a stock (s-on) ics?
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i've never had a phone that did this. i think i know what the problem is: APN settings for mms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21654890&postcount=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21105129
Downloaded APN Manager and checked my settings with it. Some are not correct. However, this app doesn't work with ICS. Any suggestions on how to change the apn settings on a stock (s-on) ics?
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Are you kidding me? Somebody hit this guy with a book and glasses, lol.
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Are you kidding me? Somebody hit this guy with a book and glasses, lol.
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instead of being a douche about it, how about saying something that would actually help?
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instead of being a douche about it, how about saying something that would actually help?
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Look here
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Look here
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was it hard to just say you can click on the "mobile network" icon to bring up the settings tab vs the switch, as i had no idea it worked like that now? thank you.
Update: still no dice with the correct settings. 4g icons shows up and then i get the delivery error message. once the data is forced enabled from the drop-down, it's golden. very strange.
Without data enabled, you will not receive nor be able to send out mms. No way around it.
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Without data enabled, you will not receive nor be able to send out mms. No way around it.
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i understand that, but when sending mms, there should be a trigger (which i can tell it tries to do when i see the 4g icon appear right after hitting "send", except for nothing happens) for the mms data to be enabled just for the time it takes to send a particular mms, otherwise, what's the point to always have data enabled? none of the smartphones i've had, had this happen (sensation included).
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i understand that, but when sending mms, there should be a trigger (which i can tell it tries to do when i see the 4g icon appear right after hitting "send", except for nothing happens) for the mms data to be enabled just for the time it takes to send a particular mms, otherwise, what's the point to always have data enabled? none of the smartphones i've had, had this happen (sensation included).
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What network are you on?
Sent from an Amaaaaaazing place, you jelly?
I also have this when using ics. When im using gb i dont need to enable data for send mms. I think this is a bad of ics. All my mbile credit will deduct when i enable data becoz an email will update and also a notification from facebook. I hate it! :thumbdown:
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What network are you on?
Sent from an Amaaaaaazing place, you jelly?
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t-mob.
mrlongshen said:
I also have this when using ics. When im using gb i dont need to enable data for send mms. I think this is a bad of ics. All my mbile credit will deduct when i enable data becoz an email will update and also a notification from facebook. I hate it! :thumbdown:
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happened on gb as well
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t-mob.
happened on gb as well
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Go into your apn settings and delete it or simply reset to default, it should auto download the correct settings, no idea how to make mms work WITHOUT data being enabled, I find that odd to be honest, but if it worked on GB, then I think you guys should stick to GB, just to save yourself some dollars.
It has been a while russianbear.. Anywho, what previous people have said is true, if you actually have data DISABLED, it won't come on for anything(how would the phone decide you want it on for MMS, but not something else like browser?). I used to roll around with data disabled a bit when I had gingerbread, so I can confirm it was the exact same way - you had to enable data to send mms - if it was off, nothing data related would work.
If you aren't worried so much about how FAST is sends MMS, you could always set it to 2g only, then your phone simply couldn't send much data at all.. or an awesome feature built into ICS - go to system settings then click usage - turn on set data usage limit, and set it REALLY low - this will keep ANYTHING that uses background data from sending/receiving, but any app you use in the FOREGROUND will work like normal - open browser or youtube and they would work like normal..
I'm sure there's another trick that would work, but I need more coffee.. good to see you again russianbear.
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It has been a while russianbear.. Anywho, what previous people have said is true, if you actually have data DISABLED, it won't come on for anything(how would the phone decide you want it on for MMS, but not something else like browser?). I used to roll around with data disabled a bit when I had gingerbread, so I can confirm it was the exact same way - you had to enable data to send mms - if it was off, nothing data related would work.
If you aren't worried so much about how FAST is sends MMS, you could always set it to 2g only, then your phone simply couldn't send much data at all.. or an awesome feature built into ICS - go to system settings then click usage - turn on set data usage limit, and set it REALLY low - this will keep ANYTHING that uses background data from sending/receiving, but any app you use in the FOREGROUND will work like normal - open browser or youtube and they would work like normal..
I'm sure there's another trick that would work, but I need more coffee.. good to see you again russianbear.
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hey, man good to see you as well.
i'm sure i'm not tripping when saying you don't actually need to physically enable the data connection for it to send mms (none of my prior devices needed to) i've downloaded go sms pro and it works like the stock app should - i don't need to enable anything to send mms now (all options in that app are stock also). not a deal-braker to me, but still strange.
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hey, man good to see you as well.
i'm sure i'm not tripping when saying you don't actually need to physically enable the data connection for it to send mms (none of my prior devices needed to) i've downloaded go sms pro and it works like the stock app should - i don't need to enable anything to send mms now (all options in that app are stock also). not a deal-braker to me, but still strange.
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LOL, that may be why I didn't have issues.. I hate the stock messaging app, so I always used gosms. I'm not sure why you would use that ugly HTC goodness anyways, lol. Good to have you back bro
After much time trying to have MMS working without the data connection being active, I found that putting only "mms" in the APN Type setting does the trick (don't forget to save the settings before exiting the APN settings screen). The problem is that the setting is not applied without RESTARTING the device! So, change the setting to "mms", save, and restart.
You need to have the "Data active" option ticked, but there will (should) be no data connection for internet.
PS: I did this in another device, not the HTC Amaze. But it probably also works for you guys.
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After much time trying to have MMS working without the data connection being active, I found that putting only "mms" in the APN Type setting does the trick (don't forget to save the settings before exiting the APN settings screen). The problem is that the setting is not applied without RESTARTING the device! So, change the setting to "mms", save, and restart.
You need to have the "Data active" option ticked, but there will (should) be no data connection for internet.
PS: I did this in another device, not the HTC Amaze. But it probably also works for you guys.
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i've tried mms only, but still nada. it's ok though, i like go sms app anyway
Actually I send MMS and the message leaves but the person who receives the MMS gets an empty MMS message.
After much playing around with the device, I discovered that inserting a picture using gallery or the explorer that comes with the Amaze are all fail.
The only way I'm able to successfully send messages is inserting the image using ROOT Explorer. When I send MMS the person no longer gets empty MMS messages.
Now I'm using the CapcomCE ROM and it happened on SpeedROM 7.5
I downloaded the Gallery ICS from market and its the same story.
So basically if I insert pictures to send through MMS I have to use the Root Explorer or else the MMS messages are sent empty.
Has anyone had a similar experience?
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Actually I send MMS and the message leaves but the person who receives the MMS gets an empty MMS message.
After much playing around with the device, I discovered that inserting a picture using gallery or the explorer that comes with the Amaze are all fail.
The only way I'm able to successfully send messages is inserting the image using ROOT Explorer. When I send MMS the person no longer gets empty MMS messages.
Now I'm using the CapcomCE ROM and it happened on SpeedROM 7.5
I downloaded the Gallery ICS from market and its the same story.
So basically if I insert pictures to send through MMS I have to use the Root Explorer or else the MMS messages are sent empty.
Has anyone had a similar experience?
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Try reducing the mms size.
Does anyone know how to block all incoming sms messages summarily?Aside of freezing the application itself via TB that is.I am travelling overseas and don't want to run a huge bill from the dozens of junk messages that keep coming inspite of DND activation.
Airplane mode?
or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smsBlocker
The thing with call blockers is, the message still comes through it just doesn't show it to you, AFAIK. So if you've contacted your carrier to disable sms and are still getting SMS something is wrong.
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Airplane mode?
or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smsBlocker
The thing with call blockers is, the message still comes through it just doesn't show it to you, AFAIK. So if you've contacted your carrier to disable sms and are still getting SMS something is wrong.
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these apps only relieve you from the nuisance part----I am looking at these simply not being delivered to my number in order to save on the astronomical rates charged by cos like Vodafone in India when the subscriber is roaming internationally.......blood suckers,all of them!Thanks all the same.
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these apps only relieve you from the nuisance part----I am looking at these simply not being delivered to my number in order to save on the astronomical rates charged by cos like Vodafone in India when the subscriber is roaming internationally.......blood suckers,all of them!Thanks all the same.
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I don't know whether it will work or not.. Try deleting the message center number
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In message settings you can turn off push for messages when roaming which soles your problem
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Running cm7.2 official rom and wondering if rom auto sends and receives mms. If not is there a kernel update or other update I can flash to fix this. I would really prefer it auto send and receive. Thanks in advance.
what do you mean by auto send and receive? all ROMs receive MMS and SMS automatically when they are sent to that phone. i'm not quite sure what you are asking
I have a mot bravo running an unofficial cm7 build, when sending or receiving mms, mobile data is automatically turned on and off. This way my data is off so I don't have to worry about usage but still receive mms.
MMS and normal data use different APN settings.
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MMS and normal data use different APN settings.
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Yes they do, I'm trying to say that on my moto bravo, when sending a MMS message, I attach the picture to text and then hit send. After hitting send the mobile data icon appears in the status bar and the message w/ pic is sent. When someone sends me a pic, my mobile data icon appears automatically and the pic is ready when I view the message. On the atrix 4g, this doesn't happen. If I want to send a pic I have to turn on mobile data before making the MMS so that when I hit send, it is sent out. Also, if someone sends me a pic, when opening the message there is a button labeled download that I must hit after making sure my mobile data is turned on for pic to be downloaded. I like the way the bravo ROM handles the MMS better.
I hope this is clear enough now.
I'm having an ongoing problem communicating via text with more than one recipient at one time. I am running Stock (rooted Oreo), have tried numerous texting apps (Message, Pulse, Signal, etc) If I copy two people, it sometimes takes forever to send out the text. And quite often when one of the recipients replies back, I do not see it or it arrives much much later, or they squirt onto my phone all at once. Am on T-Mo and use wifi calling. Any ideas? I use my phone for work, so solid communication is required with my tech out in the field.
I have used Messages (Google's replacement for the stock messaging app) and Hangouts for multiple-person texting for years with no issues. I didn't see you mentioned these, so I wanted to mention it. I'm on stock rooted VS996 on TotalWireless.
As mentioned, I have used Messages, Pulse, Signal , they all seem to suffer from this same issue. If I go in settings, and disable combine group texts, the individual ones get to recipients, but then that defeats the purpose of using multiple texts. The two people I most often text with use Apple phones, unsure if that is a factor. very frustrating when trying to work from home & run service department. I thought Google closed Hangouts?
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I thought Google closed Hangouts?
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Not yet. I use it every day, as does my wife.
Ahh, crapple... that's likely the problem. Crapple loves to do non-standard crap, and that may be issue you're facing. Their incompetence makes SMS group texting impossible (because they suck at using standards).
That said, apparently you may be able to force MMS on your Android, to work around their idiocy: https://joyofandroid.com/group-messaging-android/
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Ahh, crapple... that's likely the problem. Crapple loves to do non-standard crap, and that may be issue you're facing. Their incompetence makes SMS group texting impossible (because they suck at using standards).
That said, apparently you may be able to force MMS on your Android, to work around their idiocy: https://joyofandroid.com/group-messaging-android/
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Indeed Crapple. Checked out the link, but it seems that I already have these settings in place. (Messages and Pulse are the two I switch between) Trying Textra now. Thank you for posting this
Do your MMS work? I haven't had a video gif work in Messages in a year!
I can text gifs. I support our two service techs out in the field, and we text each other all day. So I text them both some info, or a question to answer or whatever. It may take up to a minute for the app to show my text has been sent. Then I don't hear anything back from either guy. So I retext hey did you see my earlier text? Then they will reply, yes, and I answered you. But I do not have any response. Then later on, suddenly it get several texts squirt thru all at once, minutes or hours later. They both have iPhones. Here at home, wifi calling is the only way for me to use my phone as we have horrible signal at the house.
Yes, MMS works for me in Messages just fine. I also get them on my work phone (Moto Z3) from iPhone users, too. No issues whatsoever...
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Yes, MMS works for me in Messages just fine. I also get them on my work phone (Moto Z3) from iPhone users, too. No issues whatsoever...
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I wonder what the heck is wrong with my service? Anyone on Verizon with the US99820h not getting MMS to animate? Mine literally just come in as blurry pictures and tapping it does nothing.
@christoophat: Do you have Battery Saver or Data Saver enabled? If so, turn them off.
But if you have poor cell signal at home (I am familiar with that predicament) then SMS (including MMS) will always be spotty.
You can get a Google Voice number and use that instead: It all goes through data (WiFi or Mobile data) for calls as well as messages. I'd do that in your case.
You'll have to give your coworkers the Google Voice number instead of your current mobile number. Behind the scenes you can (optionally) route incoming and/or outgoing calls through your mobile number instead of using data. But certainly at home just let it use data.
In the old days, you'd use the Hangouts app to do Google Voice messaging and calls. I still do. But today you're probably better off using the Google Voice app, which has everything built in.
Edit: I should have mentioned that you can also port your current number to Google Voice if you don't want to give your coworkers a different number. But that will terminate your current mobile carrier account. And it can sometimes take a day or two to go through.
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@christoophat: Do you have Battery Saver or Data Saver enabled? If so, turn them off.
But if you have poor cell signal at home (I am familiar with that predicament) then SMS (including MMS) will always be spotty.
You can get a Google Voice number and use that instead: It all goes through data (WiFi or Mobile data) for calls as well as messages. I'd do that in your case.
You'll have to give your coworkers the Google Voice number instead of your current mobile number. Behind the scenes you can (optionally) route incoming and/or outgoing calls through your mobile number instead of using data. But certainly at home just let it use data.
In the old days, you'd use the Hangouts app to do Google Voice messaging and calls. I still do. But today you're probably better off using the Google Voice app, which has everything built in.
Edit: I should have mentioned that you can also port your current number to Google Voice if you don't want to give your coworkers a different number. But that will terminate your current mobile carrier account. And it can sometimes take a day or two to go through.
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Battery saver is always off. I set up a Google Voice number to try out with my techs to see if that does any better. Many thanks for your response. I am lucky to get one bar here at home (null zone)
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Battery saver is always off. I set up a Google Voice number to try out with my techs to see if that does any better. Many thanks for your response. I am lucky to get one bar here at home (null zone)
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A great benefit of Google Voice is that you can make/receive calls and send/receive messages on any number of devices, including right inside Gmail on your computer. I write most messages this way because I prefer a real keyboard and selecting/editing with a mouse. I also do a fair number of calls this way. My PC has a wired connection which means lower latency than WiFi.
We also have Ring Central phone app, but it's used mostly for client only communication, so I can keep personal phone number separate. But you can't do multiple texts to anyone outside Groups (people who also have RC on their phones), so that is limiting.
Hah, I didn't realize the Google Voice is a separate app now that I will use to text. Will try this out & see if it does a better job. Thanks again