Exemption that makes rooting legal about to expire - HTC EVO 3D

Not sure when or the likeliness of this not getting extended but thought it'd be worth sharing. The exemption that makes jailbreaking the iphone and rooting android is going to run out and if it doesn't get extended, these activities could be deemed illegal.
http://gizmodo.com/5879180/jailbreaking-or-rooting-your-phone-could-become-illegal-again-fight-it
The above article suggests signing a petition at the EFF (link to petition below):
https://www.eff.org/pages/jailbreaking-not-crime-tell-copyright-office-free-your-devices

Lol If it becomes ''illegal'', then XDA is going to have to change their site policies. Oh no!

I own this device and will do what I want to it, including root!!!!
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From the looks of it that is referring to apple software and phones not android phones. Apple has always been iffy and the under dog on things .

reaper24 said:
From the looks of it that is referring to apple software and phones not android phones. Apple has always been iffy and the under dog on things .
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I thought it was all about Apple too, but they did make reference to Android in the article. But it never was that big of a deal before with Android, was it? I just hope carriers don't look at this as an opportunity to pounce on the users.

gk1984 said:
I thought it was all about Apple too, but they did make reference to Android in the article. But it never was that big of a deal before with Android, was it? I just hope carriers don't look at this as an opportunity to pounce on the users.
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They won't apple is referring to people who take off there stuff and put clean android on it. Never cared for apple ...

novanosis85 said:
I own this device and will do what I want to it, including root!!!!
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I am sure they can twist the Legalese to say that you own the device, but Apple merely let's you lease software at no cost to you. This means that they still own the software, and if you modify it, it's illegal.
Gotta love EULA's. Check out iTunes one, it actually says that you cannot use iTunes to develop nuclear weapons... I am sure they could easily hide the "We own the software, so you cannot jailbreak it" somewhere.
Should not apply to Android, since it is open. Google could possibly pull a very **** move, and say if you root it, you lose the license to use gapps and market, but that is highly unlikely.

Android is and always will be open source. As long as android is Linux based rooting and modding android will always be legal.

troyboytn said:
Android is and always will be open source. As long as android is Linux based rooting and modding android will always be legal.
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Absolutely!
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novanosis85 said:
I own this device and will do what I want to it
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Exactly what I say about my handgun!
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This will probably just get people all riled up... like SOPA.

sand1303 said:
Exactly what I say about my handgun!
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Amen!! I carry 24/7 :

So What ever became of this?
Is it Legal or not?

SketchyStunts said:
Amen!! I carry 24/7 :
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My EVO and Sig. Never leave home without em
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troyboytn said:
Android is and always will be open source. As long as android is Linux based rooting and modding android will always be legal.
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This, all of this. I don't care what they do for Apple's ****ty software and operating system, but Android is open source and is licensed under ASL2.0. You can read about it all here: http://source.android.com/source/licenses.html
ASL2.0 is basically granting permission to do anything with it so long as the license is distributed with it, and that you indicate what exactly you've changed in each file you've changed.
Open source is open source is open source.

Unknownforce said:
licensed under ASL2.0.
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Sooooo... asl?
(Asl is a common acronym for age sex location)
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yousefak said:
Sooooo... asl?
(Asl is a common acronym for age sex location)
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Omegle.com much?
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royshero said:
My EVO and Sig. Never leave home without em
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Paranoia? Wouldn't trust myself with one personally. (I like guns, but I don't have sufficient training to use one responsibly, and I don't believe that 99% of people do either.) But this isn't a gun debate ;-)
Insane to try and make 'rooting' illegal. What a complete waste of the earths resources. Only reason for this is to try and please the money makers.

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Paranoia? Wouldn't trust myself with one personally. (I like guns, but I don't have sufficient training to use one responsibly, and I don't believe that 99% of people do either.) But this isn't a gun debate ;-)
Find a friend with one practice and learn. They are fun and safe if your experienced
Insane to try and make 'rooting' illegal. What a complete waste of the earths resources. Only reason for this is to try and please the money makers.
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It can't happen Android is Linux. The best they could do is try harder to lock it down
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novanosis85 said:
I own this device and will do what I want to it, including root!!!!
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I AGREE!! the way I see it once I give them money for the device I can do what ever I want to it because it is no longer their property, it's mine!
so if they want to not honor warranties then that's fine but making rooting illegal it completely stupid and I don't see how they could stop people from doing so...

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[Q] Pay for the revolutionary app

Ok lets start by saying this, THIS IS NOT A BOUNTY OR DONATION THREAD.
Now that we have that out of the way, would you pay for the revolutionary app? If so how much?
no because im a cheap bastard
Yeh why not, the devs have worked hard on this and deserve something for their work.
HTC just keep feeding us with crap, but its always the devs that come through and save the day.
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so you're wanting to know how much someone would pay for unreleased piece of software... with an unannounced function... on a undefined piece of hardware?
just want to make sure that's what you're asking all of us.... right?
EDIT: I'm selling this box right next to me to the highest bidder, whats in the box? it's a surprise...
but I can tell you this... It's magical and will change your life in unforeseen ways for the rest of your life.
they aren't releasing an app. they are just announcing a statement or releasing information
This is a retarded thread. Why was this created.
spencer88 said:
This is a retarded thread. Why was this created.
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Lol
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Way to be that guy
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NewZJ said:
they aren't releasing an app. they are just announcing a statement or releasing information
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bet you feel dumb now. lmao
why i love donation option
kaos420 said:
bet you feel dumb now. lmao
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not dumb, wrong yet excited
I donated. Its truly for a good cause.

Android beats IOS in crash stats

Looks like there is a tie for the most stable Android release (for apps anyway), between 2.3.1 and 3.2.
Here's the link to the article.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-crash-more-than-android-a-data-dive/
This is the most useless of all of the already useless "let's look for any way that Android beats iOS" type threads I've ever read...
You could look at it like that, and post something even more useless. Or you could look at it as a way to compare the stability of various Android releases.
Did you even read the article, or did you get so excited to insult someone, you didn't even bother with it?
Thanks for making XDA one the best forums in the world to get flamed. You really help the site with your input.
LOL, its true, people flame for the sake of flaming... I thought it was kind of interesting, as I honestly figured it would have been the other way around, since we have so many more OS's on android than IOS
Welcome to the internet boys.
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Flaming I can handle, but at least throw in a pic or say something funny.
No effort from kids these days.
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Lol I didn't even read the article, just looked at the pie chart... I assumed this was just another persons way of saying the Android is better than iOS.
Sorry but I cant believe that. Motorola alone would probably outweigh all other Android manufacturers and all iPhones combined in crash count.
Cool story bro!
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joehunni said:
Lol I didn't even read the article, just looked at the pie chart... I assumed this was just another persons way of saying the Android is better than iOS.
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LOL ya coulda tossed in a lil apology there for being a complete **** earlier...
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bloodrain954 said:
Cool story bro!
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2 pointless posts in this thread already by you.....
I actually think it would be more helpfull if it also didn't show % and actually gave us the raw # of them and did such out of the total # of handsets on that OS in the market....
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Gotta love Internet tough guys. 99% of them are wusses in real life so they use the net to be tough. Chances are they would get a boot to the ballz in real life
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sprintuser1977 said:
Gotta love Internet tough guys. 99% of them are wusses in real life so they use the net to be tough. Chances are they would get a boot to the ballz in real life
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Don't act all high and mighty/superior... I bet your in that 99%
Lol I had to do it sorry chief
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Bear gri11z said:
Don't act all high and mighty/superior... I bet your in that 99%
Lol I had to do it sorry chief
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No harm. I've been known to talk net trash too
I've also been known to cuss out a local sheriff too which caused some problems lol
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sprintuser1977 said:
No harm. I've been known to talk net trash too
I've also been known to cuss out a local sheriff too which caused some problems lol
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Yeah I've had a few "run-ins" with the law.. but by all means I don't consider myself a "badass"... Just a asshole
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joehunni said:
This is the most useless of all of the already useless "let's look for any way that Android beats iOS" type threads I've ever read...
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So in a world where companies and lay people alike are completely brainwashed into thinking iOS is the most amazing thing since sliced bread and NEVER has problems like crashing apps or any other problem for that matter, you don't consider this relevant?
If you were considering a tablet or smartphone OS and just wanted something stable without cheer-leading any particular company, you wouldn't consider this relevant information?
Why exactly are you here?
Good stuff, pretty cool to see actually.
(Besides all the flames going on in here already, btw its sometimes easier to not say anything and just avoid the flammers. Posting something saying he is posting useless information is the exact same thing, or no? The rules say to pm a mod for issues not go public with em just saying)
Shot from my sharp shooter in 3d
bcarter2000 said:
Flaming I can handle, but at least throw in a pic or say something funny.
No effort from kids these days.
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Much better.
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sprintuser1977 said:
Gotta love Internet tough guys. 99% of them are wusses in real life so they use the net to be tough. Chances are they would get a boot to the ballz in real life
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Shouldn't you be starting new threads with zero pertinent or relevant info somewhere, preferably not in this forum anymore?

mozilla operating system.

http://imgur.com/a/6vdzW
any chance we can get something like this on the rezound to play with? looks like a very clean os.
I've been waiting for someone with interst in this to.port it for some time
I seriously doubt we get it, atleast at our current state
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superchilpil said:
I've been waiting for someone with interst in this to.port it for some time
I seriously doubt we get it, atleast at our current state
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We shouldnt need s-off to port it. Just have to get a developer interested. Looks like it would be fun to play with.
mighty_markus12 said:
We shouldnt need s-off to port it. Just have to get a developer interested. Looks like it would be fun to play with.
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Nah I mean by not having a aosp kernel
They use android kernels
They give you instructions to install it on a gs2
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gecko/Setting_Up_Boot_to_Gecko_Build_Environment
The funny part is that Gaia ( the launcher I suppose) can run on our phones already with limited capabilities, along with any app built for b2g since its completely HTML5 based
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Nah I mean by not having a aosp kernel
They use android kernels
They give you instructions to install it on a gs2
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla/Boot_to_Gecko/Setting_Up_Boot_to_Gecko_Build_Environment
The funny part is that Gaia ( the launcher I suppose) can run on our phones already with limited capabilities, along with any app built for b2g since its completely HTML5 based
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so we would need both a working RIL and a aosp kernel? so basically were stuck in the same boat were in now for both miui and cm9?
mighty_markus12 said:
so we would need both a working RIL and a aosp kernel? so basically were stuck in the same boat were in now for both miui and cm9?
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Yupp unfortunately :/
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superchilpil said:
Yupp unfortunately :/
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that's a bummer.
mighty_markus12 said:
that's a bummer.
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I don't know who to talk to, maybe you do
But a proof of concept without data would be a heck of a lot easier and I wouldn't mind that
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superchilpil said:
I don't know who to talk to, maybe you do
But a proof of concept without data would be a heck of a lot easier and I wouldn't mind that
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i have no clue who to talk to? that's why i posted a request thread here.
Im shocked there isnt more interest in this?
I honestly think it looks pretty tacky except the lockscreen and the browser.
I much rather developers run with the new open sourced WebOS.
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Im shocked there isnt more interest in this?
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Well it is Sunday
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That kinda reminds me of a windows phone.
Hoping if you guys can this working then the Vivid will too!
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I Am Marino said:
I honestly think it looks pretty tacky except the lockscreen and the browser.
I much rather developers run with the new open sourced WebOS.
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Im doubting much will happen with webos, its a little to late.
mighty_markus12 said:
any chance we can get something like this on the rezound to play with? looks like a very clean os.
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No attraction to this for me. Not into a tiled screen look.
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krelvinaz said:
No attraction to this for me. Not into a tiled screen look.
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To each their own. Id like something other than sense for a change. It was just a thought.
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Im doubting much will happen with webos, its a little to late.
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Do note, I said the new open sourced WebOS, not the one we're all used to.
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Do note, I said the new open sourced WebOS, not the one we're all used to.
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Well if anything the manufactures will yank the best parts out and use that in the roms. As far as devs porting it to our phones it will be interesting to see who tackles it. Thats why i asked if there was interest in the mozilla os, might be fun to play with.
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Listen, if you want something other then sense on your phone, sell your phone and buy one that comes with whatever you were looking for. If it gets ported to the rezound by a dev, cool, if not, all this begging, post bumping etc is just worthless. There are countless people on the rezound forum who keep wanting something other then sense. If you want AOSP, buy a nexus. Dont flood the forums begging for something else. Its extremely tiring and imo should be a bannable offense so we can set an example to everyone. The rezound community is known as one of the crappiest out there due to your type constantly begging and *****ing.
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So you want people banned who just "discuss" other possibilities? Good logic there. If your soo offended a few of us would like something else and would donate for it maybe you should keep your comments to yourself. All we were doing is talking about it. In case you didnt notice this is the general section of the forum. And no im not the reason you call the rezound forum crappy, you said it not any of us. So by your logic i guess dmedows should stop working on aosp and scotty should abandon hope of s-off. Sounds to me "no offense" that you are afraid of change.
Back on topic.

Android devices being key logged

Old but still an interesting read
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/259568/20111201/carrier-iq-spyware-company-s-android-app.htm
omg
Thats soooo olddd omg. There is an app called carrier iq to tell if u if you have it. Most of providers have removed and almost every single custom rom has it removed. Dude this article is form december 2011.
That's old news. Like, really old. Look at the date on the article. Verizon doesn't use CIQ on any of it's devices. It may use something else, but so far we don't know of anything, so any claims otherwise are just FUD.
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take a look at this!
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/259568/20111201/carrier-iq-spyware-company-s-android-app.htm
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here's a good read on the subject.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/8/30...cy-officer-magnolia-mobley-culture-of-privacy
as stated by other memebers, IQ has been removed from most newer devices or has been changed to collect data anonymously
yeah i noticed it was old but just thought it was an interesting read... shouldnt of put the title that way but never the less its interesting.
i guess the cool thing is that developers can find these things since android is an open platform. If you were running an iPhone chances are you could never know!
ryclegman said:
i guess the cool thing is that developers can find these things since android is an open platform. If you were running an iPhone chances are you could never know!
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yep, well the manufacture knew about it. the users didnt and thats one thing that sparked the quest to remove it.
android devs will always find a way to make the platform better. iOS devs are just happy with what they have :angel:
old newz!!!!
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yep, well the manufacture knew about it. the users didnt and thats one thing that sparked the quest to remove it.
android devs will always find a way to make the platform better. iOS devs are just happy with what they have :angel:
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How can they be happy with ****?
zetsumeikuro said:
How can they be happy with ****?
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because its nice and shiny? IDK the caliber of iPhone users is that high. :silly:
EDIT:
-_- chrome knows how to spell iPhone correctly.
Nope. Your keyboard knows how to spell it.
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Nope. Your keyboard knows how to spell it.
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im on my pc. :/

What's your opinion on CyanogenMod .INC

Just read this article about CM going corporate do you think this will affect us in the long run???
http://www.ootpapps.com/2013/09/cyanogenmod-inc-betrayal-spirit-android/
http://gearburn.com/2013/09/cyanogenmod-goes-prime-time/
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I've been trying to make some sense of it too. Would like to hear opinions.
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NYCtoCOE said:
Just read this article about CM going corporate do you think this will affect us in the long run???
http://androidfannetwork.com/2013/0...better-android-and-maybe-a-cyanogenmod-phone/
http://www.ootpapps.com/2013/09/cyanogenmod-inc-betrayal-spirit-android/
http://androidfannetwork.com/2013/09/21/the-dark-side-of-cyanogenmod-aka-cyanogen-inc/
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Looks like more negativity then positivity to me.... i think it just might affect us, if their ignoring,shafting and trolling contributers whos going to want to contribute? Looks like CM has joined my ignore rom list alongside Flex360........ oh well, they come and they go and more devs come & create greatness
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Looks like more negativity then positivity to me.... i think it just might affect us, if their ignoring,shafting and trolling contributers whos going to want to contribute? Looks like CM has joined my ignore rom list alongside Flex360........ oh well, they come and they go and more devs come & create greatness
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Yup, looks like AOSPA, AOKP, and others will be where the actions at!
I keep trying the links from OP and they just go to androidfannetwork with links for apartment hunting, what's new in Vegas, etc. :what:
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I think they accomplished what we would all hope for profitability. Doesn't make the tech they put into the now called products they build any less just means they have to play by a different set of rules and the challenge to produce the same quality of work will be impacted. Sure as users we will lose and gain some features. I just hope they don't forget how they got to where they're at and start charging us or worse stop free rom development.
That's what I'm thinking. CM isn't going to be free anymore.
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polar2792 said:
That's what I'm thinking. CM isn't going to be free anymore.
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I'm pretty sure its illegal to sell something that's free/open sourced. CM cannot use android and make a Rom and then sell it. Android is open source.
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True yes but then they are Inc. which means as soon as they are contracted to make a retail phone rom then why would they keep making a free rom. It maybe open source but open source does not mean free. May mean that you can use the codes libs and so on for your own development but if it were free red fedora and Ubuntu wouldn't be making money.
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I don't believe it would be a bad idea.

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