While I was cooking I set my Prime on the counter, my overhead light was shining on the screen and I could see through the screen to the circuits behind it. What is more disturbing is the flash from the the connection points in a grid pattern, they kinda look like greek key pattern. Now I see the flash from the connection points anytime I move the screen.
Can anyone else take their Prime, with light above them in landscape tilt the screen back and forth and see if you see the grid behind the screen and the flash of the connection points. It will look like rows running from top to bottom.
TIA
Mosh~~
Believe it sounds like you're seeing the digitizer grid. Normal for touch screens.
I have seen the grid. I have never seen flashing between the point in the grid though.
Just the digitizer.. normal.
As for the flashing, its probably just the way the light is hitting it. bouncing off reflections.
regalpimpin said:
Just the digitizer.. normal.
As for the flashing, its probably just the way the light is hitting it. bouncing off reflections.
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It's bouncing off the digitizer points and reflects back, kinda sucks. I looked at my brothers fruit device and you can't see it, I looked at my phone and can't see it, but this screams "here I am to catch your eye all the time now". LOL
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So I have had my g tablet for a couple of weeks now and I have noticed that my display color seems a bit off. Mainly being the whites, they have a red tint to them but it is really across the board. Any ideas? Do I need to call Viewsonic for an RMA? What?
Also, just a side note, my wife just got her Ipad2 and I must say that is a slick looking device. And you gotta love that display with those WIDE viewing angles. I am not an Apple person because I don't think some program should be able to rule what I can and cannot add to my devices.
Update: So I think i might have figured out my issue. Apparently the screen is tweaked because when I put pressure at the opposite corners, upper left andlower right, all of a sudden BAM nice and bright. We will see how long this lasts.
Update #2:
Here are some pics of the device both before and after when the screen is acting up. Now it just seems like it is dark with the red tint now...
Oh weird, I've never seen something like that before. Is it still fixed?
Nope, it constantly switches back and for.
I just bought my 80 G9. Before I start rooting and romming and warranty voiding I thought I should ask in case these are defects:
In landscape mode, is it normal for the viewing angle to be better if the tablet pointed down instead of up? In other words, if I have the screen down on a table and I'm looking at roughly a 45 degree angle 18" away, it's not good. Yet if I prop it up almost vertical in the same place, 18" away, below my line of site, it looks amazing. Head-on it looks kind of ok, but videos and dark images get washed out. (And using it in portrait is odd too - the screen looks good if I tilt it to the left. Otherwise, the screen looks different to each eye).
The second thing I experienced is, there seems to be a touch dead zone in the top middle of the screen, right where the X's are in Chrome for a second or third tab (it takes about 5 taps to finally get one to land on the X). I haven't found any other dead areas.
If both of these are common issues I can live with them.
Face Of Boe said:
I just bought my 80 G9. Before I start rooting and romming and warranty voiding I thought I should ask in case these are defects:
In landscape mode, is it normal for the viewing angle to be better if the tablet pointed down instead of up? In other words, if I have the screen down on a table and I'm looking at roughly a 45 degree angle 18" away, it's not good. Yet if I prop it up almost vertical in the same place, 18" away, below my line of site, it looks amazing. Head-on it looks kind of ok, but videos and dark images get washed out. (And using it in portrait is odd too - the screen looks good if I tilt it to the left. Otherwise, the screen looks different to each eye).
The second thing I experienced is, there seems to be a touch dead zone in the top middle of the screen, right where the X's are in Chrome for a second or third tab (it takes about 5 taps to finally get one to land on the X). I haven't found any other dead areas.
If both of these are common issues I can live with them.
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Do you have a 80G9? Its viewing angles seem to suck
The 2nd issue I have as well, it appeared more in ics so I'm hoping its a software issue and will be fixed soon
Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S
DarkhShadow said:
Do you have a 80G9? Its viewing angles seem to suck
The 2nd issue I have as well, it appeared more in ics so I'm hoping its a software issue and will be fixed soon
Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S
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Yes, 80 G9.
I'm quickly getting used to the angle.
As for the touch, I ran a drawing program and sure enough there's an 8th inch margin around the whole screen where touching is difficult.
Hi,
i've got the same thing on my 80G9.
After a screen calibration and after the last update, the touchscreen is ok.
The viewing angle is very bad on this tablet in landscape. Try to do a 180° rotation. I only find this solution to watch correctly
Its designed to be optimally viewed using the stand so that's probably why the viewing angle sucks flat and Straight.
I think the dead area is not a dead area its just chrome takes a while to respond due to its huge memory requirements with tabs.
As for voiding the warranty : If you use custom roms from here (XDA) and NOT Official then your device won't be watermarked and won't void the warranty. Just remember to total factory reset/wipe and remove SDE Menu system before you ship it back if it needs a repair.
Psi.
psiman24 said:
Its designed to be optimally viewed using the stand so that's probably why the viewing angle sucks flat and Straight.
I think the dead area is not a dead area its just chrome takes a while to respond due to its huge memory requirements with tabs.
As for voiding the warranty : If you use custom roms from here (XDA) and NOT Official then your device won't be watermarked and won't void the warranty. Just remember to total factory reset/wipe and remove SDE Menu system before you ship it back if it needs a repair.
Psi.
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I installed multitouch visual test from the market, and there was a definite dead zone. The taps would be extremely accurate up until you reached 1/8-1/4 from the edge, and suddenly nine out of ten taps would land on the very edge. Tapping on chrome tab buttons was merely a symptom.
So I returned the G9 and exchanged it (I had drove 2 hours to a store to buy it in the first place, and luckily found an excuse to go back within the 14 day return period). I exchanged it, and tested it on the spot. The accuracy of the edges was much better. I'd say nine out of ten taps near the edges were within 5 pixels (whereas in the center they were dead on). Not quite a scientific test, but definitely noticeably better. And tapping on things near the edge like chrome tabs worked 9/10 times.
That was yesterday. I got home, started playing with it, turned the tablet to rotate it, and no rotate. I know rotation worked earlier in the day while I was testing it - it had rotated while in my lap at an almost flat angle. Still I double checked the rotation settings, did a factory reset, upgraded to stock 4.0.6. It's still stuck in landscape mode.
So I'm out. I'll find another excuse to drive 2 hours each way back to the store sometime in the next 2 weeks, and probably exchange it for something else (with any luck the nexus will be out).
It's too bad too. I really liked it. The price was phenominal, the hardware design straightforward, the os non-bloated, etc. From what I read there aren't a lot of problems with the hardware. I just have dumb luck I guess.
Hi Face Of Boe!
Face Of Boe said:
I installed multitouch visual test from the market, and there was a definite dead zone. The taps would be extremely accurate up until you reached 1/8-1/4 from the edge, and suddenly nine out of ten taps would land on the very edge. Tapping on chrome tab buttons was merely a symptom.
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I got two A80S tablets and no problems with touchscreen here.
Just to inform you about some features of ICS:
Have a look in the settings...
- Developer options
- User Interface
- Show touches
After activating this option a light spot is shown after touching the screen.
No need for an external tool to check the accuracy of your touchscreen .
Regards,
scholbert
scholbert said:
Hi Face Of Boe!
I got two A80S tablets and no problems with touchscreen here.
Just to inform you about some features of ICS:
Have a look in the settings...
- Developer options
- User Interface
- Show touches
After activating this option a light spot is shown after touching the screen.
No need for an external tool to check the accuracy of your touchscreen .
Regards,
scholbert
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Thanks! This certainly won't be my last ICS device, so that's good to know!
Hi all, sorry my first post is asking for help, but I'm lost on this one.
It doesn't happen all the time, but I randomly get a dead spot on the bottom right corner of my phone.
It happens when I touch the app drawer, and the L key when I'm texting. It only randomly acknowledges I touched the screen.
Restarting the phone usually helps, but does that mean it's software or hardware?
Should I have it replaced?
Stock VZW Note II, no apps installed.
Ty for any and all help.
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It was replaced for a bad digitizer.
When using Multitouch visibility test, if you put more then 4 fingers on the screen, it locked up the phone requiring removal of the battery.
Perhaps instead of software, could it be heat?
It sounds like a dead/dying pixel to me. If it is only there on certain screens, then probably not, but if its there on say the boot screen or something, then I'd take it back.
silhet ingliil
I'm sorry I should have been more specific.
It's not a screen blemish.
It's when I go to tough the screen.
Like if I hit the L key on the keyboard during a text message, it will only register a touch like 50% of the time.
Or if I touch the app drawer, I have to hit it multiple times to open it up.
The actual screen is perfect, no dead or stuck pixels at all.
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I'm sorry I should have been more specific.
It's not a screen blemish.
It's when I go to tough the screen.
Like if I hit the L key on the keyboard during a text message, it will only register a touch like 50% of the time.
Or if I touch the app drawer, I have to hit it multiple times to open it up.
The actual screen is perfect, no dead or stuck pixels at all.
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I'd return to Verizon, especially if you're not rooted so it won't be any trouble returning to stock etc.
It's probably mildly annoying to you now and it's only going to get worse over time. If there's no physical damage to the phone I don't see them giving you any trouble.
phind123 said:
I'd return to Verizon, especially if you're not rooted so it won't be any trouble returning to stock etc.
It's probably mildly annoying to you now and it's only going to get worse over time. If there's no physical damage to the phone I don't see them giving you any trouble.
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No damage at all, and I actually went through 3 screen protectors before I figured out it wasn't them.
Kinda bummed I have to drive 45 miles to return this damn thing though.
LiTDiE said:
No damage at all, and I actually went through 3 screen protectors before I figured out it wasn't them.
Kinda bummed I have to drive 45 miles to return this damn thing though.
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You don't. Call VZ and they will ship you another and give you a prepaid box to ship the old one back in.
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You don't. Call VZ and they will ship you another and give you a prepaid box to ship the old one back in.
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I actually called them, and they told me to just take it back to the store in case the replacement has issues.
Which is troubling to hear.
I have a youtube video demonstrating the problem, but I won't let me post it so ohwell.
Will have to wait til I get 10 posts.
Basically, using multitouch visibility test, I roll my finger around the bottom right corner while never lifting it off, and it won't recognise my trying to touch the specific spot.
After I life my finger and move it around the screen it will recognise the spot. It's very random.
Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGl9RoBLpjA
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The youtube tags aren't working?
So what do you all think?
Hardware or software?
After further messing around in Multitouch Visibility test, I can replicate this all over the screen, but it's easiest to do at the bottom right corner where L shows up on the keyboard.
Do u have a case with any magnets on it?
Sent from my SCH-I605
Jay A whY said:
Do u have a case with any magnets on it?
Sent from my SCH-I605
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That would only affect the S-Pen, from what I understand.
Jay A whY said:
Do u have a case with any magnets on it?
Sent from my SCH-I605
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Nah, it was a bad digitizer they said.
Whenever you put multiple fingers on screen, it would lock up, and require yanking the battery to reboot.
When you notice this are you holding the S-pen? I noticed if you get the pen near the screen (close enough for air hover to work) that the screen and buttons quit working to touch. For a little while I thought the home button was having problems, turned out the way I was holding the pen would result in it being placed near the screen when I hit the button.
Wyatt W.
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wyatt57350 said:
When you notice this are you holding the S-pen? I noticed if you get the pen near the screen (close enough for air hover to work) that the screen and buttons quit working to touch. For a little while I thought the home button was having problems, turned out the way I was holding the pen would result in it being placed near the screen when I hit the button.
Wyatt W.
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The main reason I noticed it was when I was texting.
Whenever I went to type words like sleep, or talk, they would be missing the letter L.
Or when I would go to open the app drawer, and it would only work half the time.
All while the pen was in the phone.
The lockup doesn't sound normal but as far as dead spots if you have a screen protector on have you tried removing it? Marginal screen protectors will cause touch input issues.
Okay,
This happens only on the bottom right of the screen, if I press down with a little bit of pressure you can see the LCD screen distort, This occurred on my 1st device (requested a replacement) the replacement does the same exact thing in the same exact area.
So is this just a overall defect with the device (Since it's present on more than 1 device I received) or something with just a bad batch?
To test:
Open up the browser, on a white screen landscape mode, just use some pressure with ur finger press on the screen and the lcd will distort/wave into blue-ish color. Do the same test around you will see that 1 side will always have this effect but the other 3 won't.
The old device this issue was far worse than the new one. Only other note to make.
No issue here
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Nyxagamemnon said:
Okay,
This happens only on the bottom right of the screen, if I press down with a little bit of pressure you can see the LCD screen distort, This occurred on my 1st device (requested a replacement) the replacement does the same exact thing in the same exact area.
So is this just a overall defect with the device (Since it's present on more than 1 device I received) or something with just a bad batch?
To test:
Open up the browser, on a white screen landscape mode, just use some pressure with ur finger press on the screen and the lcd will distort/wave into blue-ish color. Do the same test around you will see that 1 side will always have this effect but the other 3 won't.
The old device this issue was far worse than the new one. Only other note to make.
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That's bad.. but it wont cause any issues if you don't press on the screen really hard
Well I'm exchanging the second device as well.
Will keep going round and round until one without a defect lands in my hand.
On my Galaxy note 2 no matter how hard I press nothing. DNA little pressure it begins, the 1st unit was very easy to cause the ripple effect, but the second unit was much harder maybe 3rd times the charm.
Well 3rd device does it as well so its an inherent trait of the product.
It sounds to me like the screen is set in tilted a little. A lot of HTC phones have this, I've noticed. Almost all the replacements I had on my rezound you can clearly see the screen set wrong from the light leakage on the bottom of the panel. Actually, I just pressed the bottom right* corner of my screen (the part that's higher) and it actually does the same thing but it's barely noticeable though on my rezound and only on darker colors.
Well the DNA is going back this is basically un acceptable to me. 3 units all of them do it, if you lightly press on the screen it will ripple.
The funny thing is I can feel the difference when you press down on the left side of the device it's much stronger than on the bottom right.
This is definitely not an issue on my phone. My One X had this issue. (coupled with the light bleed from bottom ). Looks like some DNAs are affected by same issue.
But its definitely not common thing. The second DNA I had ordered for a friend was received yesterday and both are perfect with no sign of any such screen ripple issue. Might be the case of bad batch at particular store.
No issue here on my phone. No offense, but it sounds like you are looking for a reason to switch phones. You either have extremely bad luck to get three defective phones, or you are trying too hard to find something wrong.
It happens to me when you press directly in the middle of the phone. Although it's not an issue for me, since the amount needed to press to see it would not be used on the phone on a regular day.
I'm going to try a diffrent source. Yes all the devices have this issue.
I'm going to post a video as well.
Mine does this as well, turns like a purplish color like if you pressed hard on an lcd tv. It hasnt bothered me at all and i love the phone but just wanted to say i have it too
All of the devices have this effect.
My HTC One X has this thingy but you have to press hard...which is not what's intended with a capacitive screen, the problem is that the more the phones are slim and the more screens are fragile, just touch the screen not press it
Not all devices have it but the dna def does have it.
I bought my N9 32GB white from Amazon Warehouse on Feb. 17. It was the second I'd ordered. The first had a defect (bent frame). All has seemed well with this--very minimal light bleed; no dead pixels; recessed but clicky buttons; no squishy back--in fact, very solid. For the past two weeks, I've noticed a cloudy area about 1"x1" just below the horizontal midline near the center in portrait mode. It looks like a smudge but remains after I wipe. It's particularly noticeable as I scroll white-background screens. I even changed my Tapatalk app to dark mode to avoid it. I've tried to get a pic of it, but it doesn't show up well enough, if at all.
I came across a similar situation of someone seeing dark areas on light background on his LCD panel laptop after he had sat on it. It was reported that applying extreme pressure to an LCD screen could result in this phenomenon. I have not applied any pressure to the screen, but as it is an open-boxed item, it could have happened.
I need opinions from those who know about these things as I know nothing. ATM, I'm trying to train myself to scroll a page from the center so that my fingers hide the "shadow" which is also what it looks like.
Thanks
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I bought my N9 32GB white from Amazon Warehouse on Feb. 17. It was the second I'd ordered. The first had a defect (bent frame). All has seemed well with this--very minimal light bleed; no dead pixels; recessed but clicky buttons; no squishy back--in fact, very solid. For the past two weeks, I've noticed a cloudy area about 1"x1" just below the horizontal midline near the center in portrait mode. It looks like a smudge but remains after I wipe. It's particularly noticeable as I scroll white-background screens. I even changed my Tapatalk app to dark mode to avoid it. I've tried to get a pic of it, but it doesn't show up well enough, if at all.
I came across a similar situation of someone seeing dark areas on light background on his LCD panel laptop after he had sat on it. It was reported that applying extreme pressure to an LCD screen could result in this phenomenon. I have not applied any pressure to the screen, but as it is an open-boxed item, it could have happened.
I need opinions from those who know about these things as I know nothing. ATM, I'm trying to train myself to scroll a page from the center so that my fingers hide the "shadow" which is also what it looks like.
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Hi, ritchea...
Sounds like you've not had the best of luck with the N9, this being your second one.
From your description it certainly sounds like a hardware defect with the screen. A manufacturing flaw perhaps, or something happened to the device whilst in transit or in storage at the warehouse
If it really bugs you, you should get it replaced.
I'm a little OCD about this kind of thing, and no matter how much you try to convince yourself it's nothing and to avoid looking (at the screen flaw)... subsequently, you spend all your time **thinking** about not looking... And eventually you look.. And wished you hadn't... if that makes sense. It detracts from your enjoyment of the device.
Rgrds,
Ged.
I'm a bit (more than a bit, really) OCD. I've owned over a dozen devices but never experienced this so I also assume a defect. I just needed to know if this is a possible defect that is known-especially when trying to get service.
EDIT: As this thread had had over 200 views, I'm throwing more info out there to see if anyone has any further insight.
I factory reset the tab --all stock except for relocking it. Darn if the spot didn;t seem to disappear. Then it returned. At that point, I decided to revisit the back. Hmmm. There is a little give in it--not spongy, but when I applied some pressure, I heard a sound in the middle of the tab like adhesive reattaching. (I've looked at the teardown and know that a lot of tape exists but not from the back cover to the rest of the tab.) I looked at the white screen, and again, the cloud was gone. In a few minutes, it reappeared. So, I firmly rubbed the mid-back and the cloud disappeared. I've now tried it over a dozen times (after restoring my nandroid), and applying firm pressure to the back always, but temporarily, removes the cloudy area. Can someone say what's most likely causing this? (I know it's faulty hardware, but I mean, what is happening to the screen when I apply pressure? Maybe a bubble in a layer somewhere?
Because of the camera, I don't want to get into taking the back off. I chatted with HTC to make sure my Amazon warehouse tablet was covered, and was told that it is even though (from the CSR) Amazon is not an official HTC retailer.