Yeah, title says it all. I have a XPERIA X10 Mini running android 2.1
BTW i want to go back to 1.6 just to try it out again, but i dont know how, is there any official way or do i need to mod etc ?!
Short answer: No.
Longer answer: Not yet.
Even longer answer:By the looks of things, all the Gingerbread roms available here have CyanogenMod inside them. Sony Ericsson haven't released 2.3 onto this phone and they're not likely to either, so the only way to get a 'pure' version of it would be to hope that somebody makes one...or make it yourself.
Why do you want GB without CM though? The reason so many people put it in their rom's is that it's very good. You get all sorts of improvements to the phone's functionality and performance.
As for going back to 1.6, there's no official way as SE will only give you the latest firmware. But you can use Flashtool to do it instead.
stock FTW!
I think the OP is like me and they actually prefer using the stock launcher. I've been looking for the same thing myself, a pure stock rom just updated 2.3.3.
I appreciate all of the cool tweaks and mods that CM adds to the rom but for me those tweaks usually end up borking another feature i'd rather use. I am also not a big fan of the customizations that some rom authors do like alternative launchers, heavily modified notification trays, weird fonts and color schemes. i'd prefer a just straight vanilla stock rom w/the sony launcher and camera; works nicely w/the screen realestate that we have w/the x10 mini. Again, i appreciate all the hardwork by all the rom authors/devs.
The big killer for me on the CM roms is the camera, still not up to the sony stock camera in my experience and again no stock launcher; some are close.
My solution was the following:
1. repair phone back to stock using PC Companion
2. reroot phone (bootloader already was unlocked)
3. reinstall CWM recovery
4. remove bloatware from stock rom (sony sync crap, game trials, quickoffice, etc)
5. update /etc/hosts file w/ad blocking version
6. create nand backup in CWM. (also made one after setting up miniCM7 in case i wanted to go back at anytime by restoring the nand)
if we could just get 2.3.3 in a pure stock form.. i'd be in heaven.. however, i may give the new ICS roms a try once they get to everyday-use-stable.
btw, the x10 minis have been the hardest to get root, recovery and kernels on of all of the android devices i've used yet. (Nexus one, HTC G2, LG G2x, Lenovo TPT, Galaxy Tab). mad props to the devs that got us to where we are now.
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Im thinking of buying my brother a X10 but i have a few questions to ask first. I currently have a HTC desire so i prefer android phones now.
1. I see that its possible to root the phone but there does not seem to be much ROMS available. Is there any reason for this?
2. The main reason i wanted to root and change ROM was to install A2SD but the X10 has much higher internal memory at 1GB. But can i still install A2SD+?
3. I see that there are vanilla 2.2 Roms but they have a few bugs. So is there a vanilla 2.1 Rom that is stable and everything works?
Thanks
1. The bootloader aint cracked yet, so the dev's are restricted with what they can cook..
2. Yes.. I believe you can, although I haven't bothered.. not needed it myself.
3. stock SE 2.1 with tweaks (JIT, junk removed, other minor changes) runs really well..
You should buy x10 immediatly.
Nice ROMs, stability, good devs etc.
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1. The bootloader aint cracked yet, so the dev's are restricted with what they can cook..
2. Yes.. I believe you can, although I haven't bothered.. not needed it myself.
3. stock SE 2.1 with tweaks (JIT, junk removed, other minor changes) runs really well..
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Thanks, very informative reply.
In regards to the internal memory, how much space does the phone have for apps? The desire only has 150mb so that's why you need to a2sd.
The stock SE 2.1 Rom with all the junk removed sounds exactly what I'm looking for, have you got a link to it?
Finally, is it correct you there are 2.2 Roms but only the camcorder is not working? Or have they got other issues too?
Thanks
the best 2.1 rom is this, it's the one i have now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913610
really fast and stable, everything works 100%, you get over 400mb of internal storage with this rom.
the 2.2 roms mostly everything works but camcorder and a couple small things. but i'm still on 2.1, it works great, i won't switch until they've got a 2.2 rom with fully working camcorder.
hope this helped!
if u want free flashing,
i would recommend google phones or the galaxy S from samsung
x10 has the bootloader locked + encrypted so it's hard for the devs here to cook roms without bugs.
Since we cracked bootloader i have question how to make dual boot to work
i.e miui and sony ericsson 2.3.3
boot manger - avaialible
how to make miui to work as a second option
(no wories about memory 16gb suppose to be more than enough (me))
since we have more option now than that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911170
can we renew this subject
i know that we can squize 2 kernel and xrec, cmw5, and few other thing but how to run 2 os ?
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sorry if it is in wrong section
Sometimes its not a question of can it be done...
but why the hell would you need 2 roms on your phone....
install that , read the whole thread and do all the patches and u will be happy with life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295089
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Since we cracked bootloader i have question how to make dual boot to work
i.e miui and sony ericsson 2.3.3
boot manger - avaialible
how to make miui to work as a second option
(no wories about memory 16gb suppose to be more than enough (me))
since we have more option now than that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911170
can we renew this subject
i know that we can squize 2 kernel and xrec, cmw5, and few other thing but how to run 2 os ?
M
sorry if it is in wrong section
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Everybody's needs & wants are different. So are likes/dislikes/expectations etc.
So if marcopolo says that he needs dualboot, I guess somebody knowledgeable on the matter needs to advise about the possibility and ways of going about it. Not push him to try a new ROM (MIUI 1.10.8 Basic, since thread # 1295089 is for it), or did bimmerrob paste the wrong URL.
I myself have tried a few ROMS - WB TW (before SE released official 2.3.3 ROM), CM7 ZMOD, FXP 028/030 & some other flavors, but I always keep coming back to Stock or it's derivatives due to one issue or another (WLOD's & restarts mostly).
I would also love to have dualboot & would try searching more on it. Will post my search results later. I've dual booted between different Windows versions & linux on my desktop & laptop for years, so why not dual boot (between ROM's) on phone.
I may be from the minority who sometimes face crippling problems with custom ROM's (since most of the users run custom ROM's without much issues). At those times, flashing another stable/stock ROM is not possible due to various reasons (not having access to laptop etc), so temporarily, switching to another stable/stock ROM would be a nice feature to have.
Dualbooting is conceptually possible and we have even tried and tested it with 2.2 ROM's combining 2.1 ROM's
so far no one tried this on 2.3.3 roms.. ITs just a matter of trying and getting it to work.
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Everybody's needs & wants are different. So are likes/dislikes/expectations etc.
So if marcopolo says that he needs dualboot, I guess somebody knowledgeable on the matter needs to advise about the possibility and ways of going about it. Not push him to try a new ROM (MIUI 1.10.8 Basic, since thread # 1295089 is for it), or did bimmerrob paste the wrong URL.
I myself have tried a few ROMS - WB TW (before SE released official 2.3.3 ROM), CM7 ZMOD, FXP 028/030 & some other flavors, but I always keep coming back to Stock or it's derivatives due to one issue or another (WLOD's & restarts mostly).
I would also love to have dualboot & would try searching more on it. Will post my search results later. I've dual booted between different Windows versions & linux on my desktop & laptop for years, so why not dual boot (between ROM's) on phone.
I may be from the minority who sometimes face crippling problems with custom ROM's (since most of the users run custom ROM's without much issues). At those times, flashing another stable/stock ROM is not possible due to various reasons (not having access to laptop etc), so temporarily, switching to another stable/stock ROM would be a nice feature to have.
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I'm on the same page as you. I'd like to test a few things out while still having one ROM that I KNOW works as the primary and boot a test ROM to see if it would even work for me.
Been meaning to research and play with the old method and modify it a bit to get this idea working but never have the time.
I'll be a guinea pig for whoever gets this in alpha.
I personally need dual boot to avoid the hassle of backing up and restoring data/apps everytime i try a custom ROM
its annoying when u are not satisfied with the new one and has to switch back to an old one
so............ guys in the ur group as well !!!
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I personally need dual boot to avoid the hassle of backing up and restoring data/apps everytime i try a custom ROM
its annoying when u are not satisfied with the new one and has to switch back to an old one
so............ guys in the ur group as well !!!
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perfect deductive maind - you work me out that exacly what i had in my maind
you should work in POLICE i positive understanding!
i thinking whether any one thinks same !!!
thks
sry eng
Dual Boot is possible / but the only thing keeping us apart from that is Devs leaving for ultimate Smartphones
We Are IN Need Of Ultimate Devs :|
Sorry to say , we got a handful left
Edit : I think This Thread must go to " General " or " Q & A "
My phone broke and the cost of replacing it with a new one before I'm eligible for an upgrade isn't worth it, so my friend loaned me an HTC Droid Eris until then. It's already rooted apparently, and I'm looking to load a pure, unmodified version of 2.3.7 on it (2.3.5+ is fine too). Or as close as I can possibly get to that, anyway.
Normally I wouldn't bother (I don't need to do much with my phone and I'm hardly a power user), but 2.1 is a little (lot) old at this point. I don't want anything fancy and I don't want Cyanogen. Just a stock, Nexus-esque ROM of Gingerbread and the full, completely functional Google App Suite. That last part is a must. If the ROM doesn't come with them (legalities and what not), that's fine, I just need to know how to get them. I know little to nothing about mobile operating systems, so the plainer the language, the better please.
Thanks for any help you can give.
That may be a little hard if no one has built a pure AOSP ROM for your phone. But what's wrong with CyanogenMod? Since you don't know much about this stuff, maybe you have some misconceptions about it. It's as close to pure Android as you can get, with a whole load of useful features. Android was lacking in a lot of ways till ICS and Jelly Bean. CM really made Gingerbread awesome. Also, for the same reason, CM ROMs are made for a lot of devices rather than AOSP, and most likely yours has a CM ROM for it too.
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That may be a little hard if no one has built a pure AOSP ROM for your phone. But what's wrong with CyanogenMod? Since you don't know much about this stuff, maybe you have some misconceptions about it. It's as close to pure Android as you can get, with a whole load of useful features. Android was lacking in a lot of ways till ICS and Jelly Bean. CM really made Gingerbread awesome. Also, for the same reason, CM ROMs are made for a lot of devices rather than AOSP, and most likely yours has a CM ROM for it too.
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Well it doesn't have to be ripped directly from a Nexus S or anything, but as close to stock as possible. I have a good friend with Cyanogen and I'm just not a fan of the modifications. The UI alterations, the changes to certain operations and functions, the general ability to do some higher level stuff I don't wanna mess with, etc. I'd really just rather have vanilla if it's physically possible.
I don't need anything CM has that GB doesn't already have, so that's why I've opted for vanilla. I already know there's a stable CM 7.2 release for the Eris, which is nice, but I'd really prefer stock. Thank you for your help, though. I appreciate the quick response
That's quite understandable. The multitude of options and advanced settings can be overwhelming. Unfortunately you're at a loss for choice with your device. There aren't a lot of recent ROMs for it to begin with, and out of those there's only one AOSP Gingerbread ROM (2.3.5 I think) that I can find. The rest are CM10 and CM7 ports, AOSP 2.1 Eclair and 2.2 Froyo, and some stock ROMs. There might be more, but I didn't bother to look as the threads have been inactive for very long. There's no point in flashing ROMs that have been dead for a long time. This one AOSP GB ROM itself is more than a year old since the last update. You can still try it though, and if everything works fine and it's stable, you're good. Otherwise your only real choice for a stable, fully functional ROM is CM7.2.
Here's the ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040459
Look here for more ROMs for your phone - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=554
You should ask this question in your phone's forum rather than the general Android Q&A, as you'll get more appropriate answers from people who are using the phone themselves.
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That's quite understandable. The multitude of options and advanced settings can be overwhelming. Unfortunately you're at a loss for choice with your device. There aren't a lot of recent ROMs for it to begin with, and out of those there's only one AOSP Gingerbread ROM (2.3.5 I think) that I can find. The rest are CM10 and CM7 ports, AOSP 2.1 Eclair and 2.2 Froyo, and some stock ROMs. There might be more, but I didn't bother to look as the threads have been inactive for very long. There's no point in flashing ROMs that have been dead for a long time. This one AOSP GB ROM itself is more than a year old since the last update. You can still try it though, and if everything works fine and it's stable, you're good. Otherwise your only real choice for a stable, fully functional ROM is CM7.2.
Here's the ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040459
Look here for more ROMs for your phone - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=554
You should ask this question in your phone's forum rather than the general Android Q&A, as you'll get more appropriate answers from people who are using the phone themselves.
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I apologize for not posting on the Droid Eris boards. I know I should have, but it's basically dead at this point so I didn't think I'd get much of a response, if any. Thank you for that link. I searched those boards but I was having a hard time finding stock ROMs. Mostly just CM 7 stuff and other modified ROMs. I guess vanilla isn't too popular. *Shrug*
I just flashed that ROM and it's telling me I need to also flash Google Apps as well. While I greatly appreciate all your help, that was the one thing I said I really needed to have. Do you know how I would go about doing that? I'm gonna try and look it up now, but if my search for vanilla 2.3 is any indication I may need some help. Thank you again for everything
You can download gapps for any Android version from here - http://goo.im/gapps
If you're confused at all, the right gapps for Gingerbread 2.3.5-2.3.7 is here - http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
You won't need the one with Google Talk video chat add-on as your phone doesn't have a front camera. This package I linked to above is the standard gapps package for CM7 and any Android ROM above 2.3.5. Flash gapps package after flashing the ROM.
The reason for Google apps being packaged separately is that Google didn't want people packaging it with their ROMs. CM initially used to have them packaged till Google asked them to remove their proprietary apps, which include Gmail, Play Store and all the backend apps for syncing data with Google. They weren't okay with them being packaged with ROMs, but they were fine with the apps being packaged as a separate file and flashed after flashing the ROM. Modified HTC Sense stock ROMs come with them included though, because stock includes them.
Read this for more info on gapps - http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/Google_Apps
Also, vanilla AOSP ROMs are very popular now for a lot of devices. They just weren't too popular at the time of Gingerbread other than for Nexus phones.
sashank said:
You can download gapps for any Android version from here - http://goo.im/gapps
If you're confused at all, the right gapps for Gingerbread 2.3.5-2.3.7 is here - http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
You won't need the one with Google Talk video chat add-on as your phone doesn't have a front camera. This package I linked to above is the standard gapps package for CM7 and any Android ROM above 2.3.5. Flash gapps package after flashing the ROM.
The reason for Google apps being packaged separately is that Google didn't want people packaging it with their ROMs. CM initially used to have them packaged till Google asked them to remove their proprietary apps, which include Gmail, Play Store and all the backend apps for syncing data with Google. They weren't okay with them being packaged with ROMs, but they were fine with the apps being packaged as a separate file and flashed after flashing the ROM. Modified HTC Sense stock ROMs come with them included though, because stock includes them.
Read this for more info on gapps - http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/Google_Apps
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No idea how I stumbled upon this but I always wondered why it was cool to just host all the apps. I remembered a C&D from Google to CM regarding the apps, but nothing on why they were so freely available. Thanks.
Hello friends,
never tried rooting any android as of yet, but my phone has gone painfully slow now forcing me to do something.
i would be grateful if i get a help/ recommendation is choosing the ROM.
I want a light, fast and stable ROM but don't want to scarifies any features ( e.g CM7-ZMOD CYANOGENMOD 7 says no tethering (both wifi/usb) )
my only usage are call/sms, occasionally taking picture, videos & playing some light games like candy crush.
im zeroing on ****FeraLab*** FeraKernel-JB-v4
update:- frealab, 720p video playback don't work and so as capture
please suggest me if in going in right direction is it advised to install JB ROM in X10 kepping the stability POV ?
Thanks in advance.
I wouldnt flash a jelly bean Rom, but if you did so it would also handle your tasks.
For all features I would recommend DiXperia 7 and finally you could use a gaming Rom as they have least stuff but best preformance. On jelly bean you could use xposed as well
Gerona
Gesendet von meinem Sony Xperia SP
Ditto @keenofhiphop.
I wouldn't flash/install any ROM other than GB.
There are many reasons to install a JB ROM, but mostly those looking to install a JB ROM on an XPERIA X10i never identify any real reason, they just think they need JB+
The best ROMs and Kernels for the XPERIA X10i are all GB based and to date I know of no ICS+ Kernel that supports 2D Hardware Acceleration for videos and etc. This may change if @FeraVolt and others are able to modify the Adreno 200 drivers to support 2D HW acc in ICS+
I too would look at a gaming ROM for the least system overheads.
There is the newly created GB FeraKernel v14.1 and FeraLab ROM v30.2 which I have tested and know to have a very responsive UI and good 720p 2D video playback.
I use DoomKernel v6 and @Tof37 X10S ROM (FeraLab based) with a heavily modified build.prop which provides a similar experience to FeraKernel v14.1
Having a Class6(or greater) microSD card and offload(I use Link2SD) as much as you can helps, as the X10i built in flash only has a read of ~6MB/sec and a write of ~3MB/s. Compare this to a SanDisk Extreme 64GB card which I ran for a while in my X10i which gives a 20MB/sec read and 13MB/sec write.
I'm currently using a SanDisk Ultra 64GB card which provides a good cost/performance ratio. 17MB/sec read, 7MB/sec write
thanks @Dr Goodvibes and @keenofhiphop for inputs.
I was thinking as JB is more polished and is newer i am thinking to go for JB if i flash.
but since HW playback & recording is not available i would probably look something else other then Feralab...
i have 1 doubt at this time... do we have to flash with the latest Kernel first & then the ROM ? is it possible to revert back to old kernel at later if i change rom ?
sorry for my noobish question but im flashing any android rom for first time
netant said:
thanks @Dr Goodvibes and @keenofhiphop for inputs.
I was thinking as JB is more polished and is newer i am thinking to go for JB if i flash.
but since HW playback & recording is not available i would probably look something else other then Feralab...
i have 1 doubt at this time... do we have to flash with the latest Kernel first & then the ROM ? is it possible to revert back to old kernel at later if i change rom ?
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True, JB has many advances in performance, security and interface options/features.
However, hardware development/drivers for the XPERIA X10i stopped at GB 2.3.3
Many of the JB performance features do not translate into real performance gains for the XPERIA X10i due to hardware constraints.
Thus GPU HW acc and camera (which is bound to the GPU) suffer. Also WiFi is 802.11g, Bluetooth is v2.1 and etc so any JB ROMs have to be retro fitted to accommodate these services.
Many developers do an excellent job of building JB ROMS and Kernels for the X10i, but they do come with some caveats and these should be understood before one installs a JB ROM.
One good thing about the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10i is that it's a very good development platform and very robust and very hard to knowingly hard-brick the device. It can always be restored to a Sony Ericsson default firmware of GB 2.3.3 at any time, with a PC and a USB cable.
When you root the device you can install CWM recovery from flashtool and then using CWM Recovery to backup your system and thus provide a quick and easy way to restore a ROM even when you're not able to successfully boot Android, but still have access to CWM recovery.
If you can find an old version of flashtool circa v8, it has more features for the XPERIA X10i as newer version of flashtool don't have these services as newer phones have rightly become the focus of Flashtool now.
I would suggest FeraKernel v14.1 and FeraLab v30.2 ROM as the best first ROM, as there is currently a lot of development around this ROM/Kernel combination and thus you'll have tens of people to assist you if you have questions.
This doesn't have to be a long term commitment as you can always flash another ROM/Kernal at any time, but it does expose you to a better understand of flashing Kernel/ROMs and etc.
I would also suggest looking at unlocking your bootloader on your XPERIA X10 as this has no negative impact that I know of and also allows you to install a greater range of ROM/Kernels which rely on having an unlocked bootloader.
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I would suggest FeraKernel v14.1 and FeraLab v30.2 ROM as the best first ROM, as there is currently a lot of development around this ROM/Kernel combination and thus you'll have tens of people to assist you if you have questions.
I would also suggest looking at unlocking your bootloader on your XPERIA X10 as this has no negative impact that I know of and also allows you to install a greater range of ROM/Kernels which rely on having an unlocked bootloader.
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Thank you very much, @Dr Goodvibes, those are exactly the words boosted my confidence to go ahead & flash. and as you said once i finish a single flashing process successfully i would be more confident in future flashing,...
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A word to the close: @Dr Goodvibes I totally agree to you, a found that in jb you could notice project butter and it worked really smooth but! it drains the battery a lot more than GB and there are several problems with hardware as mentioned with camera and gpu.
I think feravolt is one of the last Devs that really develop in the X10 but I could never really be stratified with his roms, as they look very mixed up from different mods. Which is off course a cosmetic thing but I didn't like it. I first flashed DiXperia 7 about two years ago and was totally happy with it, but as I am I was not stratified because flashing is fun I can say I flashed my X10 probably about 150 times, maybe more.
It was pure fun
Two months ago it finally gave up, it's on fetakernel and doesn't get flashed by Flashtool. (it was time for a new one)
However I hope you'll have a good time as I did and unlocking the bootloader only had advantages add is easy and offers you full customization.
And have a look into uot kitchen
It was the best about GB^^
Gesendet von meinem Sony Xperia SP
flashed with v30.3 final & camera fix & latest kernel 15 beta one. ... great performance boost compared to stock !!
i failed to install XRecovery though but CWM is installed so i am fine i guess...
Hello,
I don't use my X10 anymore but just mess around with it as a hobby.
After trying many ROMs over the years, I want to keep on with the stock Sony 2.3.3 firmware, but was wondering what are the best add-ons for it (eg - FPS uncap) and where I can find them and how I can install them?
I am sure the @FeraVolt GB kernel used to work with Stock ROM and make it faster as long as you installed the drivers for it in recovery, but I can't seem to get this to work anymore??
Any info would be great.