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I can't believe this is how the forums managers actually feel about our bootloader being unlocked. They are ignoring/deleting posts on Facebook if you ever mention "bootloader" and reply to posts that praise them...or if its about MOTOACTV.
My post was deleted, and others are trying to get it reposted every time its missing again.
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Motorola: Ignoring the bootloader problem isn't going to make it go away. I love my Droid RAZR but you are making it very hard for developers to make great software for your devices. It is NOT an industry standard to lock them down (HTC, Samsung, ASUS,etc.) and you should stop telling your consumers it is. I bought my Droid RAZR believing your statement that you would unlock the bootloaders by the end of 2011 if carriers allowed it. HTC unlocked all of theirs by the end of 2011, Verizon included. Not to mention you made the International version Motorola RAZR locked as well... All your customers want it some light on the situation, not our questions deleted.
It's not hard to tell that you are deleting posts and comments when someone mentions "bootloader", but they won't stop coming into you make a statement. And not just a statement like http://moto.ly/icsboot
Please listen and not just delete this post. Reply! Totally open to conversation and debate.
With them deleting post...we need to re-double our efforts.
That's definitely a fake account, they copy pasted the same thing a million times and can't even spell whining.
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Fake account for sure
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man YOU aren't getting any more soak test invites!
This phone is amazing without unlocked bootloaders, it's still rootable, and for those of us who are no longer flashaholics and kept their phone stock, it does EVERYTHING a rooted phone can do (with a little searching in the market). IMO, you're fighting a losing battle (for now, until we get ICS).
\\Carved into this thread by my RAZR//
http://android-gz.com
have to agree. when they do not release ics for our handphone is the right time to unleash hell. but for now lets sit tight and wait
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IP IHI II IL said:
This phone is amazing without unlocked bootloaders, it's still rootable, and for those of us who are no longer flashaholics and kept their phone stock, it does EVERYTHING a rooted phone can do (with a little searching in the market). IMO, you're fighting a losing battle (for now, until we get ICS).
\\Carved into this thread by my RAZR//
http://android-gz.com
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Very inspiring. Thanks.
Mark confirmed it is a fake account. Report it please
From @markatmotorola
@mattlgroff that is a person impersonating us. If anyone has a link to that profile/post please share or mark as abuse.
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Only a few more signatures to go!
http://www.change.org/petitions/motorola-mobility-inc-unlock-all-smartphone-bootloaders-2
That's wierd, I don't know who would have motivation to be impersonating them. However, if an official Twitter account told you the Facebook account was fake, you should probably edit your first post to mention that very clearly. We want to be as understanding and professional with those at Moto who do speak and listen to us, just making sure we're not hurting those people's reputation, thanks!
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Sorry if this is COMPLETELY newb, got my flame suit on just in case...
But it would be great if we could have one of those people who got the 3D early to let the devs here borrow the phone to work with the bootloader.
If the certain individual needs to be financially motivated, slap a donate button on either his username or another well respected member's name so the community can send gifts of thanks his way.
How great would it be to have it up and running starting june 24th...?
I got your donation right here!
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Hehe, good one
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The phone is coming out in a week dude.
After it gets permarooted, I have no obligations to throw in $10-20
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wow. guess i really needed that suit. with this kinda attitude, i am incredibly grateful that the devs overlook these types of comments and still provide their work to us for use for free.
if the same sentiment is shared by the community, we can just let this thread die.
Donating $10 or $20 is one thing vs. donating a $500 to $600 phone. Even a small donation is appropriate if you find a DEVs efforts worthwhile, show your support!
If I use a dev's work because he makes my phone better, I have no issues donating to them.. but I'm not handing cash over to someone so they can get a phone in hopes that they do something great... specially before I have my own.
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I got your donation right here!
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+1 lol good one
Trust me, I'm sure one of the devs will have something great for us before we're completely done playing with our phones. The phone will be released in less than a week. We can be patient.
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Trust me, I'm sure one of the devs will have something great for us before we're completely done playing with our phones. The phone will be released in less than a week. We can be patient.
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agreed.. plus we have several devs that have already said that they are getting it.. some that have reached legendary status around here, so its not like we are going to have a shortage.. you like what they do once they do it, or you have a dev you know is coming, then donate..
So I'm coming off of a mytouch 4g, and just ordered an amaze off eBay today. So I was just curious why there seems to be such little development on a seemingly very popular phone? I'm am not nagging or complaining in any way, just generally curious. I'm pretty excited about this phone and it's potential. I'm also hopefull that we will get some CM love. So maybe some one can fill me in. I feel like I had the mt4g Dec thread down to a.science, but I have no clue what's going on here
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So I'm coming off of a mytouch 4g, and just ordered an amaze off eBay today. So I was just curious why there seems to be such little development on a seemingly very popular phone? I'm am not nagging or complaining in any way, just generally curious. I'm pretty excited about this phone and it's potential. I'm also hopefull that we will get some CM love. So maybe some one can fill me in. I feel like I had the mt4g Dec thread down to a.science, but I have no clue what's going on here
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because its only been out for a few months and we dont have S-OFF
seach through this general thread, it been asked once or twice so you will have plenty of answers in there. there are also a few bounty threads going to get some good developers an Amaze, so if u r fortunate enough to be able to u can donate to them to help pick up development
Perhaps because its expensive, not many devs own it, and so far is impossible to s-off?
Jms122589 said:
So I'm coming off of a mytouch 4g, and just ordered an amaze off eBay today. So I was just curious why there seems to be such little development on a seemingly very popular phone? I'm am not nagging or complaining in any way, just generally curious. I'm pretty excited about this phone and it's potential. I'm also hopefull that we will get some CM love. So maybe some one can fill me in. I feel like I had the mt4g Dec thread down to a.science, but I have no clue what's going on here
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I'm sick of these questions coming up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434402
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390944
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381677
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434038
I either have all of these bookmarked or I used the search feature to find them. Or maybe I just used my super reading skills. I wonder...
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seach through this general thread, it been asked once or twice so you will have plenty of answers in there. there are also a few bounty threads going to get some good developers an Amaze, so if u r fortunate enough to be able to u can donate to them to help pick up development
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Once or twice my butt! This question gets asked at least once a week. I found the four above by entering one search term.
In fact... due to redundancy... I'm just going to close this.
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Vote in the poll here for "Security and Permissions" and even comment about the locked bootloaders if you want. Do not be unprofessional, this is meant for developers.
http://developer.motorola.com/enterprise/
Sign up for their online MOTODEV Office Hours on Febuary 15th, you can write in a question to ask, I'd suggest asking about the Razr "Developer Edition" and why we must purchase a second device unlock the bootloader when it can be done with a simple software upgrade instead. We were promised them in late 2011 and have heard nothing.
http://feb15officehrs-estw.eventbrite.com/
We should burn it(Moto)!!
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We should burn it(Moto)!!
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Burning Moto means no software bootloader unlock, or hardware. Bad idea. Also illegal and immortal
Waste of time. If they cared about their customers, they'd have unlocked awhile ago. They don't and they won't. RAZR is my last MOTO phone....I'm sooooo done with them....they blew it bad.
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Waste of time. If they cared about their customers, they'd have unlocked awhile ago. They don't and they won't. RAZR is my last MOTO phone....I'm sooooo done with them....they blew it bad.
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Thank you for your support. The only waste of time here is you trying to stop the growing #OPMOSH movement with negativity. The only way this movement will make a difference is if people actually try and get this done. Whining about this being your last Motorola phone has gotten 0 replies from Motorola.
Bootloader's locked...I see your plan is working wonderfully,too..... Look, the only thing this company is gonna understand is lack of income and THAT means quit buying their phones. When their bottom line is affected, then they'll get the message loud and clear. Until then, they're just arrogant, deaf and think their sh++ don't stink....make em think otherwise.
I'm seriously tired of people saying that in every opmosh-related anything. Have you seen their Q4 sales to begin with? They're already basically broke. Their stock is 1/25th of Samsung's. They just don't care. Google is about to scoop them up. It'd be useless to just contribute to their temporary failure. Literally useless. Let's do something productive.
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I'm seriously tired of people saying that in every opmosh-related anything. Have you seen their Q4 sales to begin with? They're already basically broke. Their stock is 1/25th of Samsung's. They just don't care. Google is about to scoop them up. It'd be useless to just contribute to their temporary failure. Literally useless. Let's do something productive.
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I am.
Don't get me wrong, I've had a good experience on Android and am going to miss a couple of things (customization, Transdroid, Swiftkey).
Anyone else jumping ship to the iPhone 5?
Try to not make this a hate thread. I am generally curious to see if anyone else is jumping ship or if you're staying with Android and a newer phone.
Its hard not to hate but to each their own. After discovering Android, there is no substitute or replacement.
I've seen similar threads started in other areas of XDA and the OP gets taken to the cleaners. You won't have to worry about that here. That is, as long as upteen different threads don't start up lol
The choice is obvious
I shiver at the thought. Out of curiosity, Why do you want to switch?
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I shiver at the thought. Out of curiosity, Why do you want to switch?
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This thread makes my insides hurt from sadness.
Not to mention, every time an android user switches to an iPhone, God kills a kitten.
Please reconsider, for the kittens.
Sorry for the double post, but I had to add this in and couldn't do it from an edit despite my best efforts.
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I am.
Don't get me wrong, I've had a good experience on Android and am going to miss a couple of things (customization, Transdroid, Swiftkey).
Anyone else jumping ship to the iPhone 5?
Try to not make this a hate thread. I am generally curious to see if anyone else is jumping ship or if you're staying with Android and a newer phone.
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Its hard not to hate but to each their own. After discovering Android, there is no substitute or replacement.
I've seen similar threads started in other areas of XDA and the OP gets taken to the cleaners. You won't have to worry about that here. That is, as long as upteen different threads don't start up lol
The choice is obvious
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why do you wanna make the switch? honestly if the dx2 is your first android phone, try a cheaper replacement (ie fascinate, dx, og droid) those phones arent anywhere as difficult as the x2. plus the og droid & fascinate have unlocked bootloaders and both are running jellybean so why leave the openness and fully user customization of android to the locked down, 'we know whats best for you' apple attitude?
I'm making a switch when the iPhone 5 comes out. My buddy is foolish and is selling me his g nexus for 100 so he can get an iPhone 5.
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I don't see why anyone would go apple. No customization ,no external memory ,basically bland apple and worst of all you only get what daddy apple says you can have.
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Wish you luck. Everyone is different. It's Important everyone is comfortable with what they have.
Thread Closed, please go and use one of the other threads in OT to discuss all iphone 5 (Kitten Killer Phone) topics.
Sloth says to check out this post: https://plus.google.com/100701200180403338467/posts/DJsnweejruf
This appears legit and there is also a post on Verizon's website with a question from a user running it.
What the hell is "Security Software Version:??? I highly recommend not going near this if your any kind of customized!!
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Hopefully we will get some sweet lollipop love in a few weeks.
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Sure looks like a copy of the Sprint G3 info screen that's been photoshopped. Also, its really unnecessary to start a vague new thread to call attention to yourself when we have threads on this topic.
I like the Goonies reference.
Nope
That Google+ is my original post. It is in no way altered or photoshopped. As mentioned in my post there may be a reason behind the OTA update. If you'd like more proof to verify please let me know, I'd be happy to oblige..
Contact a developer....you might be able to pull a factory image
@Technical12, follow the steps at the end of the first post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958 and send the files over.
Downloading ABD and I'll attempt to pull the image. Wish me luck...I'm not well versed in this.
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Nice. I have been pestering Verizon literally every day for two weeks asking when they are going to finish adding their bloatware, supercookies, and spyware and push the update. Finally today they banned me from all their twitter accounts. :highfive:
Read the comments. People are confirming they got the update. This pleases me greatly!
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Read the comments. People are confirming they got the update. This pleases me greatly!
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Just wish someone would pull their system so we can confirm it. Been on CM12 but wanted all stock features back. Really missing the trusted devices feature.
In case anyone is wondering the guy got a replacement phone which downloaded the update when he turned on the phone. He said he is going to try to pull the system image tomorrow morning.
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InB4 people start loosing root and the ability to bump then start whining like a bunch of little gurlz.
#justsayin
I've got my popcorn ready for this upcoming sh*t storm of ill advised LP upgrades People need to practice patience. Updates are usually a bad thing.
But yet...people will take that OTA...seek out that OTA (that they previously had blocked)...and then complain about root being broken and not being able to revert back. Should be a good show :good:
I guess it is starting a slow leak out.... LG Support tool shows that I have an update when I first start the tool app, and then quickly flashes back to "your software is up to date".
I don't think anybody needs to worry about losing root just yet. Other than here, I haven't seen any news about a Verizon G3 update. I'd take this thread with a huge grain of salt.
Well as long as revert is possible were good,! Will see though ,this could be the update that stops that
We see this with every update on every device. People jump to take the OTA, then are mad at manufacture and carrier because they are unable to root or unlock bootloader. Rollback may not be possible with LP update. Look at the Note 3 (where I came from), once you took the 4.4.2 OTA, you were beat for rollback. Chainfire said awhile back how complicated root will be with LP. I will wait for the devs to deliver a pre rooted rom before I ever take an OTA.
LISTEN TO THE WARNINGS IF YOU WANT/NEED ROOT!
My software is official. I'm just not versed in pulling images. And as easy as most say it is I'm not able to do it. If someone would provide some help I could have the image up in an hour.
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