After some fighting I managed to convince my phone to redownload the ota(had to delete old zip and clear data on the htcdm service, then the "check new" option started working again). I accepted the update, it downloaded. There was a loud ding and then nothing, phone still on, no prompts, no reboot, no nothing. Ideas? Could it be something that was frozen by the cleantool?
I'm sure the reason why nobody has replied is because you didnt use the search at all..go to the front page and look for OTA and you will be on the right track....
Are you stock or rooted? If your rooted then this problem is normal..even if you did get a prompt and somehow managed to get into recovery then you would get an error..if your stock then I'm not sure what's wrong..either way there is a stock rooted Rom with the update out already and I'm sure other rims will incorporate the update also.
I've used the search and so far have yet to see anyone with the exact same problem. Have you seen something I haven't?
I'm stock (no rom at all), rooted, default recovery
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I've used the search and so far have yet to see anyone with the exact same problem. Have you seen something I haven't?
I'm stock (no rom at all), rooted, default recovery
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lock your bootloader my friend.
fastboot oem relock
then you can unlock it again after..
So if the bootloader is unlocked it won't even reboot to try the update?
It's weird cause read postings here saying people are rooted and unlocked and still install just fine. So what's the actual truth?
In fact right in this thread someone says they didn't lose lock(as in never relocked seemingly):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466474&page=10
My theory is that some service disabled by Cleantool may be required for this update to get started, but just a theory. Has anyone who completely debloated run this successfully yet?
Love to hear other theories though.
Question
I know the original unlock was a hard reset to the phone.
Do subsequent RELOCK and UNLOCK do the same thing?
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lock your bootloader my friend.
fastboot oem relock
then you can unlock it again after..
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That would be a great fix IF it worked for all Rezounds....
Unfortunately, it doesn't. My buddies phone was also unlocked thru HTCDEV and rooted and the update sailed right thru for him.....not for me though
xbxjunkie said:
That would be a great fix IF it worked for all Rezounds....
Unfortunately, it doesn't. My buddies phone was also unlocked thru HTCDEV and rooted and the update sailed right thru for him.....not for me though
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What happened with yours? I just tried unfreezing some stuff and going to try installing after work. What was the difference between you and your friends phones? Bloat removal, etc?
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What happened with yours? I just tried unfreezing some stuff and going to try installing after work.
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I can download the update, but during the attempted install I get the red triangle and I gotta pull the battery. I unfroze all my bloatware from rom toolbox and tried again....nope. I did a backup, and tried a factory reset....nope again.
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I can download the update, but during the attempted install I get the red triangle and I gotta pull the battery. I unfroze all my bloatware from rom toolbox and tried again....nope. I did a backup, and tried a factory reset....nope again.
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At least you are getting to the reboot. Mine doesn't even reboot, just downloads and then beeps at me, then nothing.
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I know the original unlock was a hard reset to the phone.
Do subsequent RELOCK and UNLOCK do the same thing?
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I was messing with this earlier today. I reengaged the lock and then my phone would only load hboot. I eventually gave up and reran the unlock process, which unfortunately did wipe out all of my data. Thank goodness for AM and my nandroid from last night!
I have the same problem as well. I am stock, no root but I have used CleanTool to get rid of bloat. I have downloaded the update atleast 10 times and it has never done anything. Just dings at me, I click OK and no reboot, nothing. Not sure what is up.
EDIT: I used the CleanTool again and temp rooted and restored all the bloat, option 5 I believe and now it is taking the update.
Radiman said:
I have downloaded the update at least 10 times and it has never done anything. I click OK and no reboot, nothing. Not sure what is up.
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X2 no luck
RustyNailz said:
I was messing with this earlier today. I reengaged the lock and then my phone would only load hboot. I eventually gave up and reran the unlock process, which unfortunately did wipe out all of my data. Thank goodness for AM and my nandroid from last night!
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I had the same issue , drove me batty, i thought maybe i left a ph98zip on my card. Took the card out and still wouldn't reboot. I just said screw it and tried the RUU through fastboot and it worked ! Then I just downloaded the update and unlocked again and rerooted. I did lose data on internal SD also lol.. I am a noob to Titanium backup and when I redownloaded it couldn't figure out why all my apps were gone..
Or you guys could just download cons rom with the updates in it...
Someone will extract it soon and make a flashable zip
Did any one figure out how to get the OTA to Re-download?
Did any one figure out how to get the OTA to Re-download? Mine downloaded, gave the option to install, said battery to low and try with charged battery. Didn't realize that it was downloading or I would have made sure the battery was fully charged. It has not given me another prompt to install. How do you get to download again? Just deleting the OTApkg.zip will not do it. What other file needs deleting or?
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Help.
I have a rooted Thunderbolt and I have been able to reject the update from Verizon until this afternoon when my phone started to update on its own. The update didn't go through and I got an error icon. Now my phone just goes through the same cycle of turning it self off and trying to update and crashing.
I am able to get to the Clockwork Mod recovery page but the only option that works is the 'reboot system now', which starts the phone and the whole cycle of trying to update is started.
Does anyone have an idea of how to get my phone working again?
Thanks in advance.
Mike
I'm really sorry to hear that happened, I'm not sure what you can do. Hopefully someone will be able to help you out. But at least I can tell you that you are not alone! I wasn't rooted, but my phone did autoupdate on its own at about 2:30pm today.
I posted about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234844
Pull your SDcard, wipe the pg05img.zip file, and try again. You might have to reflash clockwork.
This is the problem with running rooted stock ROMs. I know flashing a new ROM isn't what a noob wants to do, but it will avoid these very confusing headaches.
whats if you rooted using revolutionary? As far as i know there wont be that pg05img.zip file to delete.
Would you always be in danger is this if you are rooted and stay stock?
Why would someone want to root their phone and stay stock ??????
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This is the problem with running rooted stock ROMs
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Nope. One only has to keep up with the current releases, rooted versions of which come out within days of official release.
Are you sure it is the Verizon update?
I have the same behavior on my T-bolt since about 10 pst today. However, just before the phone shuts down to reboot, I see a note about a new version of Clockworkmod Recovery 4.0.1.5.
So I have been working on the assumption that it is CWM Recovery that is doing an automatic update.
I also am running rooted stock, and have not updated to latest release.
OK, it isn't the update to CWM Recovery that is the problem; it is the Verizon OTA update, which they have figured out how to force on us. I fixed my phone using the solution given by Mike later in this thread.
jbh00jh said:
Why would someone want to root their phone and stay stock ??????
Sent from my Verizon LTE 4G Thunderbolt
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Debloating. Stock is pretty damn nice without all the extra crap.
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Debloating. Stock is pretty damn nice without all the extra crap.
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This, plus "root while you can" - there's no guarantee that rooting will be possible with each subsequent (unrooted) release, but you can root now and stay rooted to keep your options open. Also, getting full backups of everything is easier when rooted.
Did the fix work?
Mike, did you try what loonatik suggested? Did it work? Waiting breathlessly...
Unless I am misunderstanding the problem wiping cache from Clockwork recovery should clear out the update and it will quit trying to install it. For the future if you go to settings in the about phone or software update section (dont remeber which) there is an option to de-select scheduled update checks.
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Wait.. what? Most ROMs I've seen are debloated.. At the very least they have VZW crap removed
Thanks guys for all your help and interest. I tried the solution offered by lunatic but it did not work. Thanks any way I was still looping through continuous on and off cycle. I did however did find a solution on another site. Here is the solution from Sele.
http://www.thunderboltforums.com/forum/htc-thundebolt-hacking-guides/2257-rs-guide-how-get-rid-ota-forced-reboots-rooted-phone.html
It was easier fix than I thought it would be. Step #1 worked.
I also did this to stop the update from happening again.
"If you are rooted use root explorer or super manager and set system to R/W. Then navigate to /system/etc/security. Find the file named otacerts.zip and rename it to otacerts.zip.bak and reboot. Should fix you up."
I'm sorry I can't remember who offered this solution to give credit to. I haven't had any updates yet but only time will tell.
Good Luck with your phone.
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Unless I am misunderstanding the problem wiping cache from Clockwork recovery should clear out the update and it will quit trying to install it. For the future if you go to settings in the about phone or software update section (dont remeber which) there is an option to de-select scheduled update checks.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
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Yes you are correct wiping the cache fixed the problem.
mjkusa said:
Thanks guys for all your help and interest. I tried the solution offered by lunatic but it did not work. Thanks any way I was still looping through continuous on and off cycle. I did however did find a solution on another site. Here is the solution from Sele.
http://www.thunderboltforums.com/forum/htc-thundebolt-hacking-guides/2257-rs-guide-how-get-rid-ota-forced-reboots-rooted-phone.html
It was easier fix than I thought it would be. Step #1 worked.
I also did this to stop the update from happening again.
"If you are rooted use root explorer or super manager and set system to R/W. Then navigate to /system/etc/security. Find the file named otacerts.zip and rename it to otacerts.zip.bak and reboot. Should fix you up."
I'm sorry I can't remember who offered this solution to give credit to. I haven't had any updates yet but only time will tell.
Good Luck with your phone.
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Definitely a handy resource.. Every time a new OTA comes out, this is a very frequently asked question.
I suppose you could always use an RUU too
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Nope. One only has to keep up with the current releases, rooted versions of which come out within days of official release.
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Based on how many of these threads I see, that clearly isn't what's being done.
Apologies up front... I'm sure this has been discussed ad nauseum, but my searches can't turn up the answer I'm looking for.
I'm not ready to grab the new update, kernel, or radios. I'm running perfectly the way I want with Nils GingerSense 1.5 (GB).
The first OTA nag, I was able to reject. This morning, the OTA downloaded (found the OTAPkg.zip in /cache/fumo), but I was only able to defer several days, no reject option.
Question: Is there anything I can do to prevent future Verizon OTA attempts and forget about this until I'M ready to move forward?
I used to have fotakill.apk in my cm7 rom for the incredible . Maybe you can download any cm7 rom and extract that file. Might work?
I believe you can just delete otacerts.zip from /system/security and it shouldn't prompt you. I think that's what some people did on the Inc to block it before. Some also modified their build.prop, but I'm not sure what the line was, or what to change it to now.
I'm not to be held liable if anything goes wrong after modifying any of these things. Make a backup first!
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SteveG12543 said:
I believe you can just delete otacerts.zip from /system/security and it shouldn't prompt you. I think that's what some people did on the Inc to block it before. Some also modified their build.prop, but I'm not sure what the line was, or what to change it to now.
I'm not to be held liable if anything goes wrong after modifying any of these things. Make a backup first!
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using XDA Premium.
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I see a otacerts.zip in /etc/security , so I'll try renaming that, thanks.
Well, about an hour after I renamed /etc/security/otacerts.zip to otacerts.zip.bak, another OTA download has begone, so that's not going to do the trick. I've restored the file, and the download is continuing. I'm deferring again, not sure what to try next.
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Well, about an hour after I renamed /etc/security/otacerts.zip to otacerts.zip.bak, another OTA download has begone, so that's not going to do the trick. I've restored the file, and the download is continuing. I'm deferring again, not sure what to try next.
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You will have to stare at this thing to be ready ... it snuck the OTA at me when I wasn't looking, and I only realized it when the phone vibrated as it leaped into recovery and started flashing the OTA. Never asked my permission, and I never gave it.
I simply deleted every apk in the /system/app folder that said either Verizon or VZW.... I have not gotten any prompts about the OTA and it definitely has not installed or attempted to.
htcdm showed up as "hogging data" in one of my data trackign apps when i got my update message, hope that helps.
Would be nice to reject this OTA.
It don't even ask before trying to apply it!
I'm suprised that people on custom roms are getting the update attempt. Usually on a custom ROM, that kills the OTA updates. This is usually only a problem on those that are on a stock rooted type rom.
Very weird
I'm at a loss. I don't know whether to accept the update or not. I think with the Mainver fix, I can always go back...right?
My thinking is the update might patch a leak that might help us get S-Off. If I'm way off base, please let me know, because ignorance is bliss.
jdmba said:
You will have to stare at this thing to be ready ... it snuck the OTA at me when I wasn't looking, and I only realized it when the phone vibrated as it leaped into recovery and started flashing the OTA. Never asked my permission, and I never gave it.
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I'm just stock ICS rooted, only did it for removing bloat and using tethering. Now my phone tries to do this update automatically too and it just reboots into twrp and sits there... One of these days it will do it overnight and i'll miss my alarm!! Pisses me off. ha
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I'm just stock ICS rooted, only did it for removing bloat and using tethering. Now my phone tries to do this update automatically too and it just reboots into twrp and sits there... One of these days it will do it overnight and i'll miss my alarm!! Pisses me off. ha
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I registered just to reply to this. I took did a stock ICS root to get rid of bloat. Last night, it attempted to do an install at 2 AM est, got to recovery and hung. I rebooted it and went to sleep. 7:30 AM, my back-up alarm goes off, I look over at my phone, and it's stuck in recovery again, they tried to push another update while I was sleeping, and I missed my early alarm.
This is unacceptable. I need to find out how to permanently reject this blasted thing.
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I registered just to reply to this. I took did a stock ICS root to get rid of bloat. Last night, it attempted to do an install at 2 AM est, got to recovery and hung. I rebooted it and went to sleep. 7:30 AM, my back-up alarm goes off, I look over at my phone, and it's stuck in recovery again, they tried to push another update while I was sleeping, and I missed my early alarm.
This is unacceptable. I need to find out how to permanently reject this blasted thing.
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Yeah, happens to me once or twice a day, and if you don't notice it as it happens, it ends up just rebooted sitting in twrp. So I don't get calls or texts or alarms.
Anyone out there have any idea how to block the OTA's? Or can anyone answer if the following is possible.... I have never used titanium backup for actually doing any backups. I have just used it for removing stupid verizon apps. Could I do a backup of setting/apps and then flash the newest stock ICS ruu or whatever, re-use the root tool, and then restore my stuff from my backup?
Googled it and it was the first result...
http://www.chargeforums.com/forum/d...s-ota-update-very-easy-but-requires-root.html
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Googled it and it was the first result...
http://www.chargeforums.com/forum/d...s-ota-update-very-easy-but-requires-root.html
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About 8 posts back someone said that didn't work for their rezound. I tried it regardless. Had tried renaming that file with astro file explorer and i didn't have permission so I bought root explorer and it let me do it. We'll see if it keeps doing it to me like it did to the above poster...
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About 8 posts back someone said that didn't work for their rezound. I tried it regardless. Had tried renaming that file with astro file explorer and i didn't have permission so I bought root explorer and it let me do it. We'll see if it keeps doing it to me like it did to the above poster...
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I used titanium backup pro and froze the updater.apk so far so good. all day and no popups. I am Stock and Root.
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I used titanium backup pro and froze the updater.apk so far so good. all day and no popups. I am Stock and Root.
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I'm stock and rooted.
Last night, I froze the updater app in Titanium Backup. I rebooted for good measure. This morning I woke up to my phone booted in recovery.
I rejected the update and booted back up. So this is still an issue...
Just chiming in that I'm also affected, but havne'tthat on Sunday this push broke my GB image, so bad that I had to RUU it to ICS. Now I've been finding my phone at TWRP every morning with an OTA.zip failing to flash.
Additionally, I got a message that offered me to defer my update and I chose 3/10 at 7pm. But it still tried overnight.
Use tibu to freeze the ota updater package.
Or flash a custom recovery like amon ra for rezound. Or even a custom rom, say simplistic if you want to stay on an ics/sense based rom
To get the ota, one must have: a relatively unmodified stock rom (key system apps can't be frozen or missing) and the stock recovery tool. If you change either of those, you won't get prompted to do the OTA.
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AndroidGraphix said:
I'm at a loss. I don't know whether to accept the update or not. I think with the Mainver fix, I can always go back...right?
My thinking is the update might patch a leak that might help us get S-Off. If I'm way off base, please let me know, because ignorance is bliss.
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If you're s-on, you can't rewind the firmware on your phone. The mainver fix is just to get certain roms installed.
While it's possible they could patch the current s-off method, I doubt they care much at this point. Verizon has depleted their stock of replacement rezounds and HTC has moved onto new devices.
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When the OTA was released, I took my stock unlocked and rooted Rezound and did an RUU on it. I relocked it and RUU'd and made it completely stock.
I then took the OTA. I watched it do it, it downloaded and went into some sort of recovery mode and installed it.
I then re-unlocked it, rooted it, installed Amon Ra and then debloated and set it up. I did NOT restore a Nandroid on this phone.
And now every morning my phone is downloading the OTA and wanting to install it. If I say defer it tells me I can't. If I tell it OK, it doesn't do anything and tomorrow it will try to do it again.
What gives?
Did this phone take the update or not?
My guess is no. Go into more info on the screen that you have above.
Build starts with 1 no update.
Build starts with 2 OTA update
Build starts with 3 you took one of the early ICS Roms
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My guess is no. Go into more info on the screen that you have above.
Build starts with 1 no update.
Build starts with 2 OTA update
Build starts with 3 you took one of the early ICS Roms
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I guess that means no? I suppose I should just RUU with the new OTA version, rather than the original and try to get the OTA to take?
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I guess that means no? I suppose I should just RUU with the new OTA version, rather than the original and try to get the OTA to take?
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You have many paths in front of you my friend, depends on where you want to go.
It appears that you are original stock still, rooted with recovery.
Not sure what went wrong. You might want to check for a PH98IMG.zip file on root. Delete it, causes issues with HTBOOT and bootloader.
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When the OTA was released, I took my stock unlocked and rooted Rezound and did an RUU on it. I relocked it and RUU'd and made it completely stock.
I then took the OTA. I watched it do it, it downloaded and went into some sort of recovery mode and installed it.
I then re-unlocked it, rooted it, installed Amon Ra and then debloated and set it up. I did NOT restore a Nandroid on this phone.
And now every morning my phone is downloading the OTA and wanting to install it. If I say defer it tells me I can't. If I tell it OK, it doesn't do anything and tomorrow it will try to do it again.
What gives?
Did this phone take the update or not?
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Didn't even look at the screenshots, but it took me downloading the update twice for it to completely update it. I did the exact same process, but noticed when it rebooted the first time it didn't complete the update because I checked right away and my radios didn't update. I downloaded it again and the second time it flashed everything properly.
So from what I can gather, the OTA was fairly buggy process for alot of people. That's why I even checked prior to unlocking and rerooting again. I wanted to make sure it worked properly.
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Didn't even look at the screenshots, but it took me downloading the update twice for it to completely update it. I did the exact same process, but noticed when it rebooted the first time it didn't complete the update because I checked right away and my radios didn't update. I downloaded it again and the second time it flashed everything properly.
So from what I can gather, the OTA was fairly buggy process for alot of people. That's why I even checked prior to unlocking and rerooting again. I wanted to make sure it worked properly.
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Yeah, seems like the best way to do it is to just grab the latest RUU and install that and call it a day. No having to worry about it taking, it already includes the latest radio and stuff.
How do you tell what radio your phone is running??
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How do you tell what radio your phone is running??
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Settings->Phone->Software Information->More->
Baseband version is radio
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Settings->Phone->Software Information->More->
Baseband version is radio
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Lol, I realize that but what is it supposed to say??
Edit: NVM, I found the info
Ok, I know there are a lot of posts already on updating to 2.3.6 and root, but there appears to be a lot of different situations and limited information that is causing me some confusion.
So, what I want to do is get some clear details about probably the second most common situation: A Motorola Atrix 4G running the stock ROM with root access and an unlocked bootloader.
With regards to updating, aside from the obvious actions (i.e. TiBu, maybe a Nandroid), is there anything else that needs to be done to perform the update?
Additionally, I would like to keep root/unlocked even with the update, but I am willing to re-do root after the update. I can't find clear information on what methods work to keep root or to restore root after updating.
That is pretty much all that I am trying to do. I can not afford to brick my phone, so I want to make sure that I understand everything before I update.
P.S. Curse Motorola and it's stupid locked bootloaders!
I'm in the same shoes and looking to do the same thing...I want to keep root, not brick my phone...Apply the 141 update. I don't mind a little work (re-root, re-modify some files)
I'm running an unlocked bootloader, AT&T Atrix with 4.5.91 which is rooted with some custom changes (tethering, 2g/3g toggle, unlock APNs, agps)
Seems it could be possible to rebuild Blur_Version_91.4.5.141.MB860ATT.en.US available from Motorola and exclude the bootloader portions to keep the phone from bricking?
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I'm in the same shoes and looking to do the same thing...I want to keep root, not brick my phone...Apply the 141 update. I don't mind a little work (re-root, re-modify some files)
I'm running an unlocked bootloader, AT&T Atrix with 4.5.91 which is rooted with some custom changes (tethering, 2g/3g toggle, unlock APNs, agps)
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Yeah, I used the script that applied the tethering/hotspot tweak. That's about it. I haven't had to use any agps or anything, it's got amazing gps as it is.
Glad I'm not the only one though
If you have a stock rom unlocked bootloader with root don't do the ota update.I just soft bricked my phone.
Sadly, I did just that. I just wasn't paying attention.
Update: resorted to a factory reset. Now I have 2.3.6 running. Just going to take some time to restore my apps and settings.
Looks like I'm in the same boat. What's the best way to recover from a soft-brick in this situation?
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If you have a stock rom unlocked bootloader with root don't do the ota update.I just soft bricked my phone.
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Yeah, this is exactly why I have asked. I read at least one post somewhere where someone tried both the SD Card and the OTA update and the SD didn't work, but the 2nd OTA try did. I don't know if they said they had unlocked or not.
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Yeah, this is exactly why I have asked. I read at least one post somewhere where someone tried both the SD Card and the OTA update and the SD didn't work, but the 2nd OTA try did. I don't know if they said they had unlocked or not.
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Well I found this threadhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498856 was trying the auto updater as suggested but my phone wont stay on long enough for it to work.It does the auto shutdown and tries re-installing the OTA update which gives me the android triangle guy.
I recently made an update of my Atrix 4G's System from 2.3.4 to 2.3.6.
My 2.3.4 version was unlocked and rooted. It is on ATT.
Initially I received a notification in my phone about the new System update available. I tried three times OTA, but each time the process failed. When it was booting up always gave me the Android Icon with an Exclamation mark inside of a triangle. But nothing else happens. My phone continued working but with the 2.3.4 version.
Then I went to this page:
Because I haven't less than 8 post in this site I can't post any URL.
But, go for the "Motorola software update" in the Motorola's web page or Google it and get it.
And installed the "Motorola Software update" application. I had to restart my PC in order to make the software to recognize and connect to my Atrix 4G. When the Atrix was connected, by USB port, I had to select the "Windows media Sync" in the USB connection options list to make the connection to work.
Then, all that I had to do was wait until the process got completed.
I hadn't see nothing different with the new update.
I conserved my "unlocked" condition but I lost my "Rooted" condition. But that is not a big issue, there are several thread in the web that help you to get rooted again.
Hope this can help, It works for me.
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I conserved my "unlocked" condition but I lost my "Rooted" condition. But that is not a big issue, there are several thread in the web that help you to get rooted again.
Hope this can help, It works for me.
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You have an unlocked bootloader? Or sim-unlocked phone?
I'm in the same situation of @cjfermin and the 2.3.6 was flashed without any problem.
Of course I've lost ROOT, but I've followed simple instructions on the web (using Fasboot) and I've re-rooted the Atrix in 3 minutes.
PS: my Atrix was/is sim-unlocked and with unlocked bootloader.
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I'm in the same situation of @cjfermin and the 2.3.6 was flashed without any problem.
Of course I've lost ROOT, but I've followed simple instructions on the web (using Fasboot) and I've re-rooted the Atrix in 3 minutes.
PS: my Atrix was/is sim-unlocked and with unlocked bootloader.
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Thanks, that is exactly what I was needing to find out. I've heard yes and no's on different re-rooting methods. Could you link the one that you used? I was thinking about using Gingerbreak or OneClickRoot
I was trying to apply the OTA 4.5.141, on my rooted AT&T Motorola Atrix stock rom 2.3.4 and after the first reboot, following the instructions from the update, I am getting the message “failed to boot 2 starting rds mode” and just sit there. After removing the battery and booting up again, the phone seems to booting up normally and then when the phone finishes loading most of the widgets, I get a message saying “turning off” and the same cycle keeps repeating.
This is my primary phone and I am really desperate right now and I do not know what to do.
Please I need some help,
Johnston212 said:
Could you link the one that you used?
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Here: http://www.android-advice.com/2012/root-the-motorola-atrix-4g-running-4-5-141/
Hope that helps you!
Alverik said:
I was trying to apply the OTA 4.5.141, on my rooted AT&T Motorola Atrix stock rom 2.3.4 and after the first reboot, following the instructions from the update, I am getting the message “failed to boot 2 starting rds mode” and just sit there. After removing the battery and booting up again, the phone seems to booting up normally and then when the phone finishes loading most of the widgets, I get a message saying “turning off” and the same cycle keeps repeating.
This is my primary phone and I am really desperate right now and I do not know what to do.
Please I need some help,
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Ok, is your bootloader unlocked as well? I googled the "failed to boot 2 starting RSD mode" that you mentioned and there are a number of posts on it from over the years. It seems that you may need to flash a SBF file, but I don't know enough about your situation to competently tell you more than that.
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Ok, is your bootloader unlocked as well? I googled the "failed to boot 2 starting RSD mode" that you mentioned and there are a number of posts on it from over the years. It seems that you may need to flash a SBF file, but I don't know enough about your situation to competently tell you more than that.
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I am on stock rom 2.3.4 and have only rooted my phone nothing else. It seems that because it was a rooted phone the update could not finish the process.
Now I don’t know what to do.
Should I try to flash to 2.3.4 using RDS lite and then update using OTA 4.5.141 or flash using 4.5.141 (I don’t know where to find it)?
Help please, this is my only phone.
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I am on stock rom 2.3.4 and have only rooted my phone nothing else. It seems that because it was a rooted phone the update could not finish the process.
Now I don’t know what to do.
Should I try to flash to 2.3.4 using RDS lite and then update using OTA 4.5.141 or flash using 4.5.141 (I don’t know where to find it)?
Help please, this is my only phone.
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If the only thing you've ever done to the phone is root then flashing the official 2.3.4 (not fruitcake) with RSDlite and then applying the 141 OTA update should be ok. Things to note:
1) Make sure the phone is fully charged
2) Apply the 141 OTA update from sd card. Go to motorola's website . I've had mixed results when applying previous updates when downloading over wifi.
3) Be VERY sure you've done nothing else to your phone other than root, i.e. unlock, mess with the bootloader and/or recovery (unlock, ROMs).
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If the only thing you've ever done to the phone is root then flashing the official 2.3.4 (not fruitcake) with RSDlite and then applying the 141 OTA update should be ok. Things to note:
1) Make sure the phone is fully charged
2) Apply the 141 OTA update from sd card. Go to motorola's website . I've had mixed results when applying previous updates when downloading over wifi.
3) Be VERY sure you've done nothing else to your phone other than root, i.e. unlock, mess with the bootloader and/or recovery (unlock, ROMs).
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The only thing that I have done other than rooting my phone it’s unlocking the sim card.
I don't have a SIM unlocked phone, so I can't with 100% certainty say you will be ok. You should be fine though. Maybe others with SIM unlocked phones will chime in.
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I don't have a SIM unlocked phone, so I can't with 100% certainty say you will be ok. You should be fine though. Maybe others with SIM unlocked phones will chime in.
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I am not able to copy the update file to the SD card because I get a message saying “turning off” a little bit after the phone loads the sd card and then I get the "failed to boot 2 starting RSD mode" and after that the only way to take it out of that mode, it’s by removing the battery.
What options do I have now?
Thank you,
As per the title, I read something somewhere to the effect that from here on out, OTA updates will fail on most phones if they have been rooted, and this seems to be true for the Z Ultra GPE. So, what changed when I rooted my phone, and how do I undo it so that I can do the OTA update? I have looked through the forum, but nobody seems to answer it. I am rooted with Supersu using the Towelroot method. I am hoping to not have to unlock the bootloader or anything, just want to do this the official way. (I did backup my TA partition though).
jeraldjunkmail said:
As per the title, I read something somewhere to the effect that from here on out, OTA updates will fail on most phones if they have been rooted, and this seems to be true for the Z Ultra GPE. So, what changed when I rooted my phone, and how do I undo it so that I can do the OTA update? I have looked through the forum, but nobody seems to answer it. I am rooted with Supersu using the Towelroot method. I am hoping to not have to unlock the bootloader or anything, just want to do this the official way. (I did backup my TA partition though).
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If your GPe is rooted only, the OTA should install just fine. If you made any system changes, you'll need to revert those though. I ran the OTA while I was rooted and didn't have any problems.
Visa Declined said:
If your GPe is rooted only, the OTA should install just fine. If you made any system changes, you'll need to revert those though. I ran the OTA while I was rooted and didn't have any problems.
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Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
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Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
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well at the moment that doesn't effect the GPe, and may never. There will have to be a system image flashed to put the block device in a known state before the new way could ever be used, and if there is a system.img we can always flash that to get the OTA to work... no big deal I don't think.
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Not so. See:
http://bgr.com/2014/11/14/android-5-0-lollipop-updates-and-root/
As mine is rooted, no dice, the OTA fails. So, how to unroot it so that the update takes?
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First of all, BGR is a garbage site, and I wouldn't believe anything they say, ever. Second, that article is talking about avoiding root AFTER Lollipop is installed.
Having root will not cause the OTA to fail. If your OTA is failing, it's because you made a system change on your device.
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If you were using Xposed, then that is more than likely why your OTA is failing.
What is Xposed? How would I check to see if it has affected my device? Only thing I did was Towelroot and running SuperSU. I may have done something to allow writing to the external SD card, but forget how I did that. I was intentionally trying to keep this phone basically stock so that it would easily update to Lolipop. I did a Titanium backup to the externalSD card and reset it to factory and the OTA update still fails though. I assume this was due to the fact that I rooted it. The bootloader is still unmodified, secureboot is still green - yes, lock state is locked. Only other thing I can think of is I installed an app that allowed me to set permissions by app (turn off location settings by app, etc) Sorry I can't give any more details than that...
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I may have done something to allow writing to the external SD card, but forget how I did that.
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Only other thing I can think of is I installed an app that allowed me to set permissions by app (turn off location settings by app, etc) Sorry I can't give any more details than that...
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If you can't figure out what system change you made to your phone, just factory reset it, and run the OTA again. There was multiple people(me included) that took the OTA successfully, our phones were rooted and SuperSU was installed.
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If you can't figure out what system change you made to your phone, just factory reset it, and run the OTA again. There was multiple people(me included) that took the OTA successfully, our phones were rooted and SuperSU was installed.
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As mentioned before, I factory reset this and wiped the cache from the stock recovery mode. Update won't take, stops shortly after it fails with "system update error". Since my last reset (been done a few times) it won't prompt me to get the OTA update, after my last reset last night. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
{Damn thing won't work... (*&^&%^$$#}
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As mentioned before, I factory reset this and wiped the cache from the stock recovery mode. Update won't take, stops shortly after it fails with "system update error". Since my last reset (been done a few times) it won't prompt me to get the OTA update, after my last reset last night. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
{Damn thing won't work... (*&^&%^$$#}
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The only fail-safe way I can see is to:
root
back up TA
unlock BL
hotboot custom kernel with recovery
flash 4.4.2
OTA to 4.4.3
OTA to 4.4.4
root and restore TA if you want a working camera
OTA to 5.0
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The only fail-safe way I can see is to:
root
back up TA
unlock BL
hotboot custom kernel with recovery
flash 4.4.2
OTA to 4.4.3
OTA to 4.4.4
root and restore TA if you want a working camera
OTA to 5.0
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As often happens, I sometimes see a solution I don't care to implement and begin to procrastinate. So, haven't looked at this problem for a while. I may have found the solution to my problems, but want to know if anyone has experience with it before proceeding. I re-installed superSU and went through the options. Buried in the options list is a box that offers "Full unroot, Cleanup for permanent unroot". What happens when I do this? does it just remove superSU or does it restore the phone back to factory status, before it was rooted? Thanks!
PS: @ blueether the solution is fine and I am sure it would work (I was going to go ahead with it until I saw that option in superSU), but have been hesitant to unlock the bootloader, etc, due to my unfamiliarity with hacking Sony products, and only want to do it as a last, final, no other option solution. Thanks for your help!
jeraldjunkmail said:
As often happens, I sometimes see a solution I don't care to implement and begin to procrastinate. So, haven't looked at this problem for a while. I may have found the solution to my problems, but want to know if anyone has experience with it before proceeding. I re-installed superSU and went through the options. Buried in the options list is a box that offers "Full unroot, Cleanup for permanent unroot". What happens when I do this? does it just remove superSU or does it restore the phone back to factory status, before it was rooted? Thanks!
PS: @ blueether the solution is fine and I am sure it would work (I was going to go ahead with it until I saw that option in superSU), but have been hesitant to unlock the bootloader, etc, due to my unfamiliarity with hacking Sony products, and only want to do it as a last, final, no other option solution. Thanks for your help!
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That's fine and I take no offence at you not wanting to unlock the BL.
I haven't tried the full unroot option in supersu so I'm not sure what the outcome is. One of the other GPe users care to comment?
Well, turns out that the solution to unrooting the phone is to install superSU and than look inthe settings. It will offer you an option to completely uninstall root. It did what it says, and than you can check it with a check root app from the market. It reports that the phone is not rooted. Now the question is, will it pick up the OTA update... No luck with that after a clean factory reset, so not sure what to do next.
2 questions: If I unrooted my phone, and it says it is unrooted, is this true, in the fullest extent? Does towelroot do anything more than adding some permissions ans the superuser file?
If the phone won't pick up the OTA update, why? What went wrong?
Thanks!
jeraldjunkmail said:
Well, turns out that the solution to unrooting the phone is to install superSU and than look inthe settings. It will offer you an option to completely uninstall root. It did what it says, and than you can check it with a check root app from the market. It reports that the phone is not rooted. Now the question is, will it pick up the OTA update... No luck with that after a clean factory reset, so not sure what to do next.
2 questions: If I unrooted my phone, and it says it is unrooted, is this true, in the fullest extent? Does towelroot do anything more than adding some permissions ans the superuser file?
If the phone won't pick up the OTA update, why? What went wrong?
Thanks!
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It sounds like the OTA is not being pushed at the moment/anymore. You could copy it to there the recovery can see it and manually install it
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It sounds like the OTA is not being pushed at the moment/anymore. You could copy it to there the recovery can see it and manually install it
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Can you point me inthe right direction for instructions on this process? Thanks!
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First of all, BGR is a garbage site, and I wouldn't believe anything they say, ever. Second, that article is talking about avoiding root AFTER Lollipop is installed.
Having root will not cause the OTA to fail. If your OTA is failing, it's because you made a system change on your device.
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Your post is two years ago but i think you can help me,there is a new update for my phone and i am rooted i also have xposed installed so this mean i cannot update my sytem? Do i need to uninstall xposed? Im on stock rom and with TWRP recovery it would be a big help if you reply thanks.