Hi. I am new to HTC and I would like some informations about this phone. I own a HTC EVO 3D(HBOOT 1.49.0018) and here are some questions:
1) I have unlocked the bootloader with HTC method, installed a .img recovery from revolutionary (shooteru) then root. S-On. Is there any way of making the bootloader locked again? As far as I understood, it can be made RElocked, but this means my warranty is voided, right?
2) What is the difference between S-Off and S-On, if the bootloader is unlocked? Can I flash ROMs/Kernels from CWM, or there's some limitations?
3) What is a RUU image? I have downloaded RUU_Shooter_U_HTC_Europe_1.20.401.8_Radio_10.59.9020.00_10.15.9020.06_M_release_219793_signed.exe (this is what I have on the phone right now, those versions). If I connect the phone to USB and run that file, what will happen to my phone? It will be stock? No CWM and everything stock? I mean, if I flash a custom ROM, then I want stock, I flash that file?
4) Can I root/temporary root another HTC EVO 3D with HBOOT 1.49.0018 WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader?
I think more questions will come, as I have this phone for less than a week.
As far as I understood, it can be made RElocked, but this means my warranty is voided, right?
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Technically yes, however most Sprint stores will work on it as long as you re-locked it and are on a stock rom.
2) What is the difference between S-Off and S-On, if the bootloader is unlocked? Can I flash ROMs/Kernels from CWM, or there's some limitations?
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Kernels have to be flashed separately:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306248
3) What is a RUU image?
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An exe file that will completely return your phone to stock. Recovery, bootloader, hboot, everything...
If I connect the phone to USB and run that file, what will happen to my phone? It will be stock? No CWM and everything stock?
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Completely stock, including your sd card will be wiped.
I mean, if I flash a custom ROM, then I want stock, I flash that file?
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No, because this will COMPLETELY unroot you, and you may not be able to root again. If you want a stock rom, just flash the rom zip file. RUU's are pretty much only used when you need to send your phone back to sprint, as its easier to run this to unroot and go back to stock than to separately unroot and separately flash the rom.
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This thread is regarding RUU for HTC devices.
I've seen some similar threads but could not fully get the answer I was looking for.
From what I already understand, a RUU updates the ROM, the H-BOOT possibly and updates the recovery with a stock recovery. It cannot do anything that a BL-Unlocked user cannot do through adb or fastboot because the RUU uses only adb and fastboot. This means that the RUU does not (And cannot) update the radio. Am I correct in this?
And if so, what is the point of updating the RUU once you start flashing custom ROMs because they also flash the /system and /boot partitions and the only thing a custom ROM doesn't do is reflash the H-BOOT and the recovery.
And even if you update using a RUU for some reason (Whether it updates or if you just want to return to stock), do you have to choose the RUU that exactly matches your current radio version?
Assume for all the questions that the device is either BL-Unlocked or Stock (But S-ON either way).
Thanks in advance.
AceRoom said:
This thread is regarding RUU for HTC devices.
I've seen some similar threads but could not fully get the answer I was looking for.
From what I already understand, a RUU updates the ROM, the H-BOOT possibly and updates the recovery with a stock recovery. It cannot do anything that a BL-Unlocked user cannot do through adb or fastboot because the RUU uses only adb and fastboot. This means that the RUU does not (And cannot) update the radio. Am I correct in this?
And if so, what is the point of updating the RUU once you start flashing custom ROMs because they also flash the /system and /boot partitions and the only thing a custom ROM doesn't do is reflash the H-BOOT and the recovery.
And even if you update using a RUU for some reason (Whether it updates or if you just want to return to stock), do you have to choose the RUU that exactly matches your current radio version?
Assume for all the questions that the device is either BL-Unlocked or Stock (But S-ON either way).
Thanks in advance.
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Hi, an ruu updates what you mentioned and a lot more. It will do things like change the splash screen, update the radio. and change the hboot which you cannot do with only an unlocked bootloader. It can do those things because its signed.
I had to use ruu's a few times, recently for an hboot downgrade to achieve s-off. Now that I have s-off I can flash any file I want in hboot asblong as its named correctly. Like a splash screen, or a lower hboot version.
Since an ruu updates the radio, it doesn't matter which version you choose, as long as its the same version you have or higher, but it won't let you flash a lower versionWith s-off I can flash any ruu version I want.
ok, so if I am currently running 2.3.4 and htc sense 3.0, does that mean that I can flash my phone with ics (4.0) as long as it is for the right phone and carrier???
HTC evo 3D with Rogers
icecursor said:
ok, so if I am currently running 2.3.4 and htc sense 3.0, does that mean that I can flash my phone with ics (4.0) as long as it is for the right phone and carrier???
HTC evo 3D with Rogers
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Yes.
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Yes.
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now, if I upgrade it through the ruu, is that the exact same upgrade that comes from the carrier? As in, even the HTC update too?
And if it is, is the ruu just the rooted phones way of updating?
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icecursor said:
now, if I upgrade it through the ruu, is that the exact same upgrade that comes from the carrier? As in, even the HTC update too?
And if it is, is the ruu just the rooted phones way of updating?
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Yes it is the same update. Updating with the RUU can be used either way (rooted or non-rooted). Just keep in mind that you'll lose root access after updating.
Theonew said:
Yes.
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Theonew said:
Yes it is the same update. Updating with the RUU can be used either way (rooted or non-rooted). Just keep in mind that you'll lose root access after updating.
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ok, so last question,
do I need hboot 1.5? I am currently running revolutionary s-off, HBOOT 1.49.1107.
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Yes.
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Originally Posted by Theonew
Yes it is the same update. Updating with the RUU can be used either way (rooted or non-rooted). Just keep in mind that you'll lose root access after updating.
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ok, so last question,
do I need hboot 1.5? I am currently running revolutionary s-off, HBOOT 1.49.1107.
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I'm not sure for your device, but as long as the RUU is for it, it should work (boot loader version doesn't usually affect it).
hello, i wanted to know if RUU also achieves S-ON. I need to return my droid incredible to verizon for replacement due to screen malfunction. I cannot see anything on the display, but everything inside works fine.
I had unlocked bootloader using htcdev and rooted with S-OFF running 4.1.1. I am now on stock Froyo thanks to RUU, but I still need to get S-ON and bootloader locked.
So does the RUU achieve S-ON? I have downloaded the forever SON zip file. But I dont know how to flash it using ADB. Can someone guide me.
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hello, i wanted to know if RUU also achieves S-ON. I need to return my droid incredible to verizon for replacement due to screen malfunction. I cannot see anything on the display, but everything inside works fine.
I had unlocked bootloader using htcdev and rooted with S-OFF running 4.1.1. I am now on stock Froyo thanks to RUU, but I still need to get S-ON and bootloader locked.
So does the RUU achieve S-ON? I have downloaded the forever SON zip file. But I dont know how to flash it using ADB. Can someone guide me.
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The RUU does not return S-ON. What is in the zip file?
achieve S-ON on htc...
haunteddevil619 said:
hello, i wanted to know if RUU also achieves S-ON. I need to return my droid incredible to verizon for replacement due to screen malfunction. I cannot see anything on the display, but everything inside works fine.
I had unlocked bootloader using htcdev and rooted with S-OFF running 4.1.1. I am now on stock Froyo thanks to RUU, but I still need to get S-ON and bootloader locked.
So does the RUU achieve S-ON? I have downloaded the forever SON zip file. But I dont know how to flash it using ADB. Can someone guide me.
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for S-ON try this Post ...
Ok, I'm really curious about this. I want to quickly know what ROMs can be flashed to a phone that is HTC Dev Unlocked and S-On.
Currently running MeanROM 1.91 (and HTC Dev Unlocked & S-On), but I would really like to run Cyanogenmod on it.
I understand you can flash the radio in an S-On phone, but it has to be done in recovery, vs doing it in the bootloader with an S-Off phone.
kusanagi-sama said:
Ok, I'm really curious about this. I want to quickly know what ROMs can be flashed to a phone that is HTC Dev Unlocked and S-On.
Currently running MeanROM 1.91, but I would really like to run Cyanogenmod on it.
I understand you can flash the radio in an S-On phone, but it has to be done in recovery, vs doing it in the bootloader with an S-Off phone.
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You can flash whatever ROM you want, as long as you have a custom recovery.
And you can flash radios through recovery as long as your HBOOT isn't the one from the latest OTA (1.15). In that case, you can't.
You can. just backup, and do a full wipe, and and flash.
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I think the only thing you gain with s-off is the ability to update your firmware.
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Captain_Throwback said:
You can flash whatever ROM you want, as long as you have a custom recovery.
And you can flash radios through recovery as long as your HBOOT isn't the one from the latest OTA (1.15). In that case, you can't.
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I got my phone a week ago (actually on the 13th), and as soon as I got it, I let it do the updated to 1.22.
I have TWRP 2.2 as my recovery. HBoot is 1.15. In that case, is there any ability at all to update the radio to something newer?
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I think the only thing you gain with s-off is the ability to update your firmware.
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What does the firmware changes?
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What does the firmware changes?
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I think he meant you can only update the radio firmware with S-Off.
kusanagi-sama said:
I got my phone a week ago (actually on the 13th), and as soon as I got it, I let it do the updated to 1.22.
I have TWRP 2.2 as my recovery. HBoot is 1.15. In that case, is there any ability at all to update the radio to something newer?
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Well, currently there isn't a newer radio, but if there was, you'd have to relock and take whatever the new OTA would be to upgrade your firmware (including radio).
Radios cannot be flashed through recovery with the new 1.15 HBOOT, nor can splash screens or kernels.
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Well, currently there isn't a newer radio, but if there was, you'd have to relock and take whatever the new OTA would be to upgrade your firmware (including radio).
Radios cannot be flashed through recovery with the new 1.15 HBOOT, nor can splash screens or kernels.
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So, to relock, I would have to follow one of the threads on unrooting and relocking the phone? You can't do that by just re-flashing the stock ROM (its how it worked with my LG Optimus S and Motorola Photon 4G)?
The point is, I want to run CM9 or 10 once it becomes stable for this phone (when camera, MMS, and everything else works)
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So, to relock, I would have to follow one of the threads on unrooting and relocking the phone? You can't do that by just re-flashing the stock ROM (its how it worked with my LG Optimus S and Motorola Photon 4G)?
The point is, I want to run CM9 or 10 once it becomes stable for this phone (when camera, MMS, and everything else works)
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Actually, you don't have to re-lock to take an OTA, if you're on stock. But being as though you want to run a custom ROM, you'd have to nandroid backup your current setup. Relock the bootloader ("fastboot oem lock"), and then flash the latest RUU, at which point you'd be updated to the latest firmware.
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Actually, you don't have to re-lock to take an OTA, if you're on stock. But being as though you want to run a custom ROM, you'd have to nandroid backup your current setup. Relock the bootloader ("fastboot oem lock"), and then flash the latest RUU, at which point you'd be updated to the latest firmware.
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Well, I'm already running MeanROM 1.91, as mentioned in the first post.
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Well, I'm already running MeanROM 1.91, as mentioned in the first post.
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I was just saying, based on what you said you want to run in the future, at which point there may be some firmware updates to actually update to .
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I was just saying, based on what you said you want to run in the future, at which point there may be some firmware updates to actually update to .
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I'm sure there will be.
So, the process would be:
1.) relock the bootloader
2.) flash the latest RUU
3.) unlock the bootloader, and re-root
4.) flash to the latest CM9/10 port (and install the latest gapps)
I'm needing to take my phone into sprint because I believe my digitizer needs replaced. The screen keeps freezing and clicking random things without me touching it. Tried different roms and kernels do figured it must be hardware issue.
Anyhow I'm needing to keep my hboot s-off because my laptop craped out on me this week and wont be able to re root and s-off again without my laptop working.
All I'm wanting to do is make my phone look stock by putting a stock unrooted rom on it so sprint can replace the digitizer.I've looked on the web n can only find a stock rooted rom but where can I get a stock unrooted rom? Thanks
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All I'm wanting to do is make my phone look stock by putting a stock unrooted rom on it so sprint can replace the digitizer.I've looked on the web n can only find a stock rooted rom but where can I get a stock unrooted rom? Thanks
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Easiest way is to flash the RUU.exe from Windows or the zip version of the RUU from the bootloader. That will return everything to stock including the bootloader and recovery, but leave you S-OFF so you can just flash a custom bootloader and recovery after they repair the phone and you will be back in business.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
Easiest way is to flash the RUU.exe from Windows or the zip version of the RUU from the bootloader. That will return everything to stock including the bootloader and recovery, but leave you S-OFF so you can just flash a custom bootloader and recovery after they repair the phone and you will be back in business.
ramjet73
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Awesome. I didn't know I could install the ruu thru the bootloader. Thanks for your help!
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Awesome. I didn't know I could install the ruu thru the bootloader. Thanks for your help!
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You'll need the .zip version from this post to do that. The one at the top is the latest (Sprint ICS 2.89.651.2).
ramjet73
When my digitizer went out, I took mine in rooted and they fixed it no questions asked. In fact, one tech asked me about my team custom splash screen I made and another loved the skin I was running.
But, I understand not wanting to give them any reason to argue.
ramjet73 said:
Easiest way is to flash the RUU.exe from Windows or the zip version of the RUU from the bootloader. That will return everything to stock including the bootloader and recovery, but leave you S-OFF so you can just flash a custom bootloader and recovery after they repair the phone and you will be back in business.
ramjet73
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By chance do you know which custom recovery I can install thru the 1.58 hboot?
scottypeterson said:
By chance do you know which custom recovery I can install thru the 1.58 hboot?
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If you are S-OFF a PG86IMG.zip version of any custom recovery should work.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
If you are S-OFF a PG86IMG.zip version of any custom recovery should work.
ramjet73
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I got the recovery installed. I tried to install a version of twrp but it hung at the splash screen and figured it had to do with the hboot. I just re downloaded it and installed again and it worked. Thanks.
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I was was at sprint earlier and they don't have the parts to fix my phone so they have to order me a new phone. Should be in by Monday. I just wanted to have root until then. Appreciate your help!
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I recently installed Mean Horsey Face ROM, but realized I have really old radios that I've never updated. What's the easiest way to update my radios via this ROM? I know I can flash them from hboot if I were S-OFF, but how can I do it from S-ON?
Thanks!
Old radios? Please post the version information from software info in about phone.
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If you want the global firmware, follow this - http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ull-ruu-build-4-03-605-2-for-the-htc-rezound/
It will wipe out your rom, recovery, etc so back up your phone first. Once you're done you can re-unlock your bootloader, flash your custom recovery and restore your rom/re-flash your boot.img.
Will installing this RUU install the default rezound ROM and leave my phone fully functional? I will unlock bootloader / custom recovery and all re-flash my own rom at some point, but I want to see how long this will all take. Thanks.
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Will installing this RUU install the default rezound ROM and leave my phone fully functional? I will unlock bootloader / custom recovery and all re-flash my own rom at some point, but I want to see how long this will all take. Thanks.
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It returns the phone to out of the box stock basically but will update all the firmware to the latest. You have to go through the whole unlock/root/recovery process again.
As long as you saved your unlock token from before, it's a piece of cake to re-do it all..
Is it possible to flash back to the stock t mobile HTC One rom then update it to 4.3?if so, could someone point me in the right direction? Thank you.
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Goofy317 said:
Is it possible to flash back to the stock t mobile HTC One rom then update it to 4.3?if so, could someone point me in the right direction? Thank you.
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Please let me know if you find out. I was wondering the same thing!
Let me try to help you guys.
What you guys need to do is to flash the original RUU for 1.27.531.11 from PC. Once you do that, you will be able to update OTA.
If you have unlocked bootloader and s-off, it will still carry over to the back to stock as well as OTA.
If you dont like it, just flash the older hboot and then recovery and another ROM.
I did it and works perfectly fine. Also no Root allow for Back to stock or OTA, you can do that later but not when trying to get update.
No custom recoveries, radio, boot, etc. Has to be stock ROM.
Ah, also please have sure the MID / CID is right before flashing to stock.
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What you guys need to do is to flash the original RUU for 1.27.531.11 from PC. Once you do that, you will be able to update OTA.
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Unfortunately that only works on a Microsoft Windows computer. It won't work for Linux or Mac.
Are there any option for Linux/Mac users?
f_v_man said:
What you guys need to do is to flash the original RUU for 1.27.531.11 from PC. Once you do that, you will be able to update OTA.
If you have unlocked bootloader and s-off, it will still carry over to the back to stock as well as OTA.
If you dont like it, just flash the older hboot and then recovery and another ROM.
I did it and works perfectly fine. Also no Root allow for Back to stock or OTA, you can do that later but not when trying to get update.
No custom recoveries, radio, boot, etc. Has to be stock ROM.
Ah, also please have sure the MID / CID is right before flashing to stock.
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This is what I did. I was on a custom ROM, but -off, flashed 1.27 RUU, set basic settings up, then downloaded 4.3 update, still unlocked and -off. Painless.
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This is what I did. I was on a custom ROM, but -off, flashed 1.27 RUU, set basic settings up, then downloaded 4.3 update, still unlocked and -off. Painless.
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The 1.27 RUU is stock ROM, bootloader, and recovery?
After upgrading did you re-flash a custom recovery and re-root?
eibook said:
The 1.27 RUU is stock ROM, bootloader, and recovery?
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Yes.
eibook said:
After upgrading did you re-flash a custom recovery and re-root?
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Not yet. Gonna play with stock for awhile. I kind of like odexed and dont have a burning need to root. As for the "junk" in stock roms, there really isnt much, and what there is you can disable so not a big deal.
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This is what I did. I was on a custom ROM, but -off, flashed 1.27 RUU, set basic settings up, then downloaded 4.3 update, still unlocked and -off. Painless.
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OK so just to clarify. I am currently on 1.27.531.11 rooted with a Unlocked S-off bootloader and TWRP recovery. All I need to do is, leave the bootloader unlocked and run the 1.27.531.11 RUU file. Once that is completed I can take the OTA to 4.3. Once this is complete will I still be S-Off and unlocked or S-off Locked? Then if I want to root (asuming bootloader is still unlocked) I would just need to flash the TWRP recovery and then flash SU, and I should then be updated to 4.3 rooted with a unlocked S-OFF bootloader. Is all of that correct? If not, please correct me before I attempt this. Thanks for any help.
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OK so just to clarify. I am currently on 1.27.531.11 rooted with a Unlocked S-off bootloader and TWRP recovery. All I need to do is, leave the bootloader unlocked and run the 1.27.531.11 RUU file. Once that is completed I can take the OTA to 4.3. Once this is complete will I still be S-Off and unlocked or S-off Locked?
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Correct. You'll be s-off unlocked.
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Then if I want to root (asuming bootloader is still unlocked) I would just need to flash the TWRP recovery and then flash SU, and I should then be updated to 4.3 rooted with a unlocked S-OFF bootloader. Is all of that correct? If not, please correct me before I attempt this. Thanks for any help.
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This I dont know. I havent rooted or flashed a custom recovery since moving to 4.3. Havent found a need to, really.
Ok thanks for the input. I'm gonna give it a shot.
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