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Well I looked around one of the posts said that HTC finished the ICS and is now sent to sprint for modifications. Aka adding bloatwares, sprint boot and etc. So if your going to complain to someone make sure its to Sprint. And once they are sent out it'll be in order by your Serial Number so that the OTA (On-The-Air) server doesn't overload. So your neighbor may get it while you don't. So don't worry. I'm going to remain locked and s-on until ICS comes out or somebody makes an ICS ROM based on the official release. So if your not rooted I recommend you do the same. Well its nice sharing all this that I know. And remember, this is all I know from twitters. Facebook, posts, sites, and everything else. Well with this I say goodbye and try to forget about the update so that time goes by faster.
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One of the reason for the thread is to express our knowledge about the ICS so that people don't have problems and they're questions are answered.
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Jimlarck said:
Well I looked around one of the posts said that HTC finished the ICS and is now sent to sprint for modifications. Aka adding bloatwares, sprint boot and etc. So if your going to complain to someone make sure its to Sprint. And once they are sent out it'll be in order by your Serial Number so that the OTA (On-The-Air) server doesn't overload. So your neighbor may get it while you don't. So don't worry. I'm going to remain locked and s-on until ICS comes out or somebody makes an ICS ROM based on the official release. So if your not rooted I recommend you do the same. Well its nice sharing all this that I know. And remember, this is all I know from twitters. Facebook, posts, sites, and everything else. Well with this I say goodbye and try to forget about the update so that time goes by faster.
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while I appreciate the info...without links to back up anything you have said this is quite pointless....
Great another useless post, about what someone knows.
Most of you clowns know absolutely nothing...
My sources tell me it will be out Dec. 23, 2012
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My sources tell me it will be out Dec. 23, 2012
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OF COURSE!! it would be out AFTER THE WORLD ENDS on 12/21/2012 lol waaaay to go HTC...way to go
I would say the majority of folks on this forum probably DON'T want to upgrade to ICS over-the-air.
1. You'd have to wait until an unlock method is available, so you're pretty much stuck with what ya got (which may not be a bad thing to some).
2. You may or may not be able to "downgrade" to 1.4 HBOOT if you're on 1.6, if you have any intentions of obtaining S-OFF in the future.
3. Once it's available OTA, it's not going to be long before a full working ROM will be available on the board.
Just think hard and twice before you decide to take that OTA, and don't make the same mistake I did of accepting last time around with 1.5. I have performed the downgrade recently thanks to the hard work members on here have contributed.
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I'll update the first thread with links and screenshots and highlight the text and the context. Sorry for the lack of proof
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Mmm takes Sprint 6 months to totally screw up a ROM with all its crap and it takes our great devs on xda a day or two to fix and redistribute a work of art.
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Mmm takes Sprint 6 months to totally screw up a ROM with all its crap and it takes our great devs on xda a day or two to fix and redistribute a work of art.
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Agreed, if XDA was a phone carrier I would totally be XDA for life
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Weird enough seems like I can't post pictures...
bimmer007 said:
I would say the majority of folks on this forum probably DON'T want to upgrade to ICS over-the-air.
1. You'd have to wait until an unlock method is available, so you're pretty much stuck with what ya got (which may not be a bad thing to some).
2. You may or may not be able to "downgrade" to 1.4 HBOOT if you're on 1.6, if you have any intentions of obtaining S-OFF in the future.
3. Once it's available OTA, it's not going to be long before a full working ROM will be available on the board.
Just think hard and twice before you decide to take that OTA, and don't make the same mistake I did of accepting last time around with 1.5. I have performed the downgrade recently thanks to the hard work members on here have contributed.
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Well, now that you mention it I guess I'll downgrade before updating. And yeah you're right. Once you update to 1.6 you should forget about rooting for a while. Gonna go home and downgrade and root. thanks for making me realize this
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This dude sounds legit!
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Weird enough seems like I can't post pictures...
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Well the lack of info being provided is not going to go over well for long around here and right now its pointless till you post some info backing up these claims...
We already have countless ICS threads with debates and such on when its rumored to release...
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Guys don't hate. I'm sorry for posting something with the lack of info. Once I get near my laptop I'll post links. Screenies and everything
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Guys don't hate. I'm sorry for posting something with the lack of info. Once I get near my laptop I'll post links. Screenies and everything
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Looking forward to it....and please don't waste time posting some theory some poster on another board had as part of your reasoning in proving this...needs to be credible ppl...or else this thread might not last too long...
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I would also love to see this
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I'm really hoping OP is legit and isn't messing with us.
I'm all ears....
Well I'll get to a laptop and update the first post with more credible information
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Verizon pulled the rezound from HTCdev in the beginning like they are doing here, but we bugged them with emails, petitions and any other public ways to let them know we wanted it available to be unlocked and they finally cracked so let them know how you feel and tell them often and hopefully we will get the support back
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Yay! Hey, one of the great things about this phone is that you won't have to hack sense 4.0 together
Quick question, what kept you away from the SIII?
Sorry to hear that your Rezound bit the dust. But your pain is our gain...just thinkin like an American here.
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Yay! Hey, one of the great things about this phone is that you won't have to hack sense 4.0 together
Quick question, what kept you away from the SIII?
Sorry to hear that your Rezound bit the dust. But your pain is our gain...just thinkin like an American here.
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What kept me away is it is a Samsung... Only HTC for me bud nothing else
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What kept me away is it is a Samsung... Only HTC for me bud nothing else
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Hehe, you think just like me. Tried the Nexus and frankly couldn't stand it. I actually like Sense, weird I know.
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Only HTC for me bud nothing else
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That's what I'm talking about! Only HTC!
Anyway, I hope you're able to help us out. Welcome to the community.
This is the best news I've heard all day. Welcome aboard.
Very nice. Maybe I'll grab inc
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This Inc is lame stock I need to get unlocked so I can hook it up... My Rom for the rezound was based off of this stock Rom and I had so many extras on it that this just don't feel like an upgrade, so we need unlocked so this can change
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This Inc is lame stock I need to get unlocked so I can hook it up... My Rom for the rezound was based off of this stock Rom and I had so many extras on it that this just don't feel like an upgrade, so we need unlocked so this can change
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so. how do we do that, at this point in time, i've sent htc so many e-mails they don't answer anymore.
Originally Posted by newtoroot
This Inc is lame stock I need to get unlocked so I can hook it up... My Rom for the rezound was based off of this stock Rom and I had so many extras on it that this just don't feel like an upgrade, so we need unlocked so this can change
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so. how do we do that, at this point in time, i've sent htc so many e-mails they don't answer anymore.
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That's where your going wrong its not HTC its Verizon we all need to start sending emails to the CEO of Verizon I forget his name but that's how we got them to pit the rezound back on HTC.dev
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That's where your going wrong its not HTC its Verizon we all need to start sending emails to the CEO of Verizon I forget his name but that's how we got them to pit the rezound back on HTC.dev
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ok yes, i guess i know it's verizon, but don't know how to get to them, so i figured i'd harrass htc awhile, it's their phone, better yet it's MY PHONE
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That's where your going wrong its not HTC its Verizon we all need to start sending emails to the CEO of Verizon I forget his name but that's how we got them to pit the rezound back on HTC.dev
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Hook us up with his email address and we'll flood his inbox.
His name is Lowell C. McAdam om still trying to find a direct email address when I do ill post it
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His name is Lowell C. McAdam om still trying to find a direct email address when I do ill post it
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Is this helpful
Kevin C. Tillyer
Verizon Wireless
HQ Executive Relations Coordinator
[email protected]
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Or this Xhttp://aboutus.vzw.com/php/email.php?id=1
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Is this helpful
Kevin C. Tillyer
Verizon Wireless
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[email protected]
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Or this Xhttp://aboutus.vzw.com/php/email.php?id=1
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oor this [email protected]
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OK got my first e-mail out, lets everyone get crackin on this!
We really should come up with some standardized format. I'm going to modify the HTC One X petition to fit our needs, as follows:
I am a proud owner of the HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE. It is a beautiful device with powerful potential. All I ask is that Verizon allows HTC to issue unlocks to owners of the Droid Incredible 4G LTE that choose to unlock it.
This phone has the potential to be an excellent platform for development. I consider the ability to modify the software running on the phone to be an essential feature. The current inability of the Droid Incredible 4G LTE to accept custom firmware is already dissuading some from purchasing this phone, and even causing others to consider returning devices that they have recently bought.
Once purchased, the Droid Incredible 4G LTE is our property alone to modify if we choose. HTC CEO and President Peter Chou promised that all HTC Android devices launched after September 2011 can have their bootloaders unlocked if the owner chooses to do so. And here I am, asking for that promise to be fulfilled.
Unlocking the Droid Incredible 4G LTE helps the development community do what they want with their devices. By unlocking the Droid Incredible 4G LTE, HTC and Verizon are supporting open hardware and software, the way it was meant to be. Please respect our freedom to do what we want with our devices.
Please allow the bootloader unlock.
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I think that pretty much sums it up.
IceDragon59 said:
We really should come up with some standardized format. I'm going to modify the HTC One X petition to fit our needs, as follows:
I think that pretty much sums it up.
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Good Job, You've got it downb pat there, Where do I sign?
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Good Job, You've got it downb pat there, Where do I sign?
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lol. I made it to be sent as an email from an individual person. We can make it a petition, but I'll have to modify it again back to group syntax.
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lol. I made it to be sent as an email from an individual person. We can make it a petition, but I'll have to modify it again back to group syntax.
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no thats ok, I was just [email protected]@tin ya
Email's sent today, tomorrow, forever or until it is unlocked.
Do we HTC users have to wait for HTC to release source codes for android 4.2.x before we see any custom roms on it ?
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Oh you didn't just go there
There are many roms in the development section... Also please don`t complain about a lack of development and pesk developers excessively about things you would like to see, they work for free and are submitting a large amount of their time for the benefit of others.
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Do we HTC users have to wait for HTC to release source codes for android 4.2.x before we see any custom roms on it ?
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You sir, really need to brush up your manners and read up on matters before you post absolute and utter crap like this.
For starters, this is about as rude as it gets. Lloir and some others are working as hard as they can (and are willing too) on bringing Cyanogenmod to the AT&T bull**** device, be grateful for that. They are doing it in their own time without being on anyone's payroll.
So please, next time when you decide to post complete bullcrap, use that gray mass that you have stored in your dome.
Are you finished?
Ok thanks
reread my original post.
I didn't knock anyone's work and I am nothing but thankful that the devs donate their hard time and work. I completely understand that they are not here to satisfy me or anyone else.
I didn't ask for an eta.
I didn't request a 4.2.x rom.
I didn't complain.
When I get on the thread for a custom Rom and ask for an eta, then you can flame me.
I'm sorry for any confusion, but it is an honest question and I am genuinely just curious about the process in general. I'm not calling anyone out.
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Oh you didn't just go there
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Trying to avoid a collision course with "there".... Lol
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I believe you had good intentions, but when there are dozens of these threads a week the collective pestering annoys the devs. The problem isn't that you were ungrateful, it's that the devs don't want to hear stuff like "are we ever getting aosp" "I really wish this would hurry up" "why is this taking so long" etc. When you have a bunch of people whining like this, the devs feel unappreciated and demanded of, even if that's not what you were asking
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I believe you had good intentions, but when there are dozens of these threads a week the collective pestering annoys the devs. The problem isn't that you were ungrateful, it's that the devs don't want to hear stuff like "are we ever getting aosp" "I really wish this would hurry up" "why is this taking so long" etc. When you have a bunch of people whining like this, the devs feel unappreciated and demanded of, even if that's not what you were asking
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No, I know. I'm aware of that situation and I understand how it's upsetting to them.
Maybe I should have been clearer when I posted and said up front that I'm not looking for any sort of rom, eta, etc and that I'm just curious about the process.
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No, I know. I'm aware of that situation and I understand how it's upsetting to them.
Maybe I should have been clearer when I posted and said up front that I'm not looking for any sort of rom, eta, etc and that I'm just curious about the process.
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I had the same issue on here, asked a genuine normal question about how we as a community can better support the devs and increase the variety of custom roms for our beloved one x+ without complaining and even writing that "I'm very grateful to the current work the devs have done"... yet was being completely misunderstood, people assuming I was demanding something specific from current devs, complaining, ungrateful etc... I think people need to first fully read and understand what a person is asking before starting to flame him instead of just assuming.
Yeah, I'm a little miffed that I had a few members quick to get on my case and school me some xda etiquette, but since I've clarified and apologized, I have yet to receive any response to my initial question.....
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Yeah, I'm a little miffed that I had a few members quick to get on my case and school me some xda etiquette, but since I've clarified and apologized, I have yet to receive any response to my initial question.....
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Because you're still wrong and everyone is sick of trolls.
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Because you're still wrong and everyone is sick of trolls.
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Ok, I'll take this question to a forum that's more specifically dedicated to software development.
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bnicsk8guy said:
This morning while I was simply just surfing YouTube I got a prompt asking me to start downloading a firmware update. I accepted and let it download but have no idea what it is. It's a 228 mb file. When it finished downloading nothing happened. Went to the AT&T Software Update menu and it says "Continue Update" but when I hit it nothing happens. Anyone have a clue? Could it be the 1.29 update?
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I figured out how to push this update download from AT&T and then manually force the phone to update. It's basically just tricking the phone. I would write a detailed guide on this but I don't have the time because I have work and bills to pay. Donations would help though
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One of the worst-mannered posts I've ever read on XDA. And I've read a lot of them.
Patience my friend it will come, op is probably a bit excited
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One of the worst-mannered posts I've ever read on XDA. And I've read a lot of them.
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Seems to be his M.O
Cell Master said:
I figured out how to push this update download from AT&T and then manually force the phone to update. It's basically just tricking the phone. I would write a detailed guide on this but I don't have the time because I have work and bills to pay. Donations would help though
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Fishing for funds huh! Nice!
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Mods this is a disgrace to our threads please close I have never heard anybody beg for money wow real classy
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Cell Master said:
I figured out how to push this update download from AT&T and then manually force the phone to update. It's basically just tricking the phone. I would write a detailed guide on this but I don't have the time because I have work and bills to pay. Donations would help though
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If your being serious them that's pretty damn low....
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Seems to be his M.O
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I noticed this
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This guy is about to get my second ever ignore on XDA.
Likely all he did was Force Stop/Clear Data on the Google Services Framework and push check for update a couple of times or some other equally easy/well known method of force checking an update.
Or (most likely) he's a pathetic piece of crap that's begging for money on xda for something he's made up.
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There has been no evidence that this update even exists.
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There has been no evidence that this update even exists.
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System.bin/updateid/1.29/05192013.update
file name
Is this serious? Is someone really begging for $ on xda?
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System.bin/updateid/1.29/05192013.update
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That's not proof. And even if it was, begging for donations so you magically have time is a **** move.
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Well you guys have echoed the sentiments pretty well here.
OP, we don't hold information ransom for monetary remuneration. We do this because we love development and helping others.
Normally I would say something humorous and sarcastic and close with a zing, but today I am going to kindly ask that you re-read the rules and realize that this is a live and close community, and as you can see from the replies here the community does not take kindly to efforts to extort money for information, files, beta access, or anything like that.
We are here for further mobile development and maybe have a bit of fun while doing it
Thanks for understanding.
I just got a notification that a system update is available. Does anyone know what's on this? Will it effect root?
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I just got a notification that a system update is available. Does anyone know what's on this? Will it effect root?
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what software version do you have now?
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what software version do you have now?
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Right now I just flashed the viper Rom. So not sure...
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enzosly said:
Right now I just flashed the viper Rom. So not sure...
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does viper supply OTA's? best to hit up that thread with your question, because Viper dev should have disabled carrier OTA's
I got the viper ota today. If you're on viper it's the 1.10 rom update.
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How do peoples phone not get bricked?
A man flashes a Rom and now is wondering about AT&T system update?
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How do peoples phone not get bricked?
A man flashes a Rom and now is wondering about AT&T system update?
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Sounds like your trying to be a smart ass. I asked what the update was because I was getting one. It's people like you why I hate useing this site. Too many people always looking to call people out. Did you get picked on to much at school and now this is your chance to get back? Don't respond to questions you don't care about.
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I got the viper ota today. If you're on viper it's the 1.10 rom update.
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I just noticed that it had ota updates. Sorry for the confusion.
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Don't get all worked up man, the guy up there is just like most of us experienced users, we search and do research. You got lucky because I'm in a good mood and if it was any other time I would have just told you to search and research like you should have done instead of just asking on xda. It's not the site, it's not the people that seem like jerks. It's the people like you who that make this site the way it is, if everyone would just search first then ask questions later xda would be a wonderful and happy place.
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The question I hated most was "will this affect root"
Its probably worse then "will I still get OTA update"
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Don't get all worked up man, the guy up there is just like most of us experienced users, we search and do research. You got lucky because I'm in a good mood and if it was any other time I would have just told you to search and research like you should have done instead of just asking on xda. It's not the site, it's not the people that seem like jerks. It's the people like you who that make this site the way it is, if everyone would just search first then ask questions later xda would be a wonderful and happy place.
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I think it's more of a issue that I don't know how to navigate on here that well. I was looking for something on updates but didn't see anything current. I don't ask to many questions and no iv never bricked my phone. Thanks for your help it was my over site. I'm not a expert yet
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enzosly said:
I think it's more of a issue that I don't know how to navigate on here that well. I was looking for something on updates but didn't see anything current. I don't ask to many questions and no iv never bricked my phone. Thanks for your help it was my over site. I'm not a expert yet
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But come on dude it's common sense that if you flashed a Rom you don't vet AT&T updates
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just ignore the tools.
the morons who continue to say search non stop are just as annoying as the people asking the questions. its a damn forum , communicate for f sake.
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just ignore the tools.
the morons who continue to say search non stop are just as annoying as the people asking the questions. its a damn forum , communicate for f sake.
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It's a forum and there's absolutely no need to have multiple threads on the same subject or to have a thread on a subject that can be found with a quick look in the thread he downloaded the Rom from...
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aimetti said:
just ignore the tools.
the morons who continue to say search non stop are just as annoying as the people asking the questions. its a damn forum , communicate for f sake.
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We say search because... IT'S IN THE DAMN XDA RULES. Who's the tool now? Don't be an ass when we do it for a reason.
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We say sea. h because... IT'S IN THE DAMN XDA RULES. Who's the tool now? Don't be an ass when we do it for a reason.
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Clearly you are bordering the no life category.
Either answer his question or ignore it. stop being a moron. its pathetic at this point. Let a mod handle it if it matters that much to you
aimetti said:
Clearly you are bordering the no life category.
Either answer his question or ignore it. stop being a moron. its pathetic at this point. Let a mod handle it if it matters that much to you
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Clearly you're bordering the a-hole category. There's no reason to insult someone encouraging people to follow the rules of the forum they frequent. No need to be a mod to encourage following the rules.
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Haha
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aimetti said:
just ignore the tools.
the morons who continue to say search non stop are just as annoying as the people asking the questions. its a damn forum , communicate for f sake.
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We do communicate, and still the same questions get asked over, and over, and over. It can become a bit frustrating after awhile.
9 times out of 10, if you simply copy and paste the OP's question into Google the answer will pop right up in the first couple of results.
I will say the same thing I said on a different thread...
When a question is asked people who know the answer have two options...
A) You choose to answer the question
B) You choose not to answer the question...
To come up with a smartass remark while NOT answering the question makes you a special kind of douchebag.
If a person is posting in this forums is because they were searching. Nobody comes to this forums as their first instinct...they find these forums because they are searching the answer to a question.