Razr Dev Edition? - Motorola Droid RAZR

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/29/motorola-announces-razr-developer-edition-with-unlocked-bootload/
So it looks like they want to market a 3rd RAZR, this one with an unlockable bootloader.
It seems Motorola is really being ridiculous with all these refreshes.

Wtf motorola?! Just unlock our current ones.

Gotta say Moto, that is one of the most pathetic moves I have ever seen.

Wait until they release a razr maxx dev edition. I can just see them doing that.
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Huey85 said:
Wtf motorola?! Just unlock our current ones.
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What he said.
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I think Moto's management has some serious lessons to learn.
I was struggling with wether to get a Razr Maxx for a bit more $$.
Now I am not struggling anymore.
I am thinking to move to Galaxy Nexus now.
Guys does GN's radio really work much worse than Moto's one?
I just thought seems the only way we can let them know, is to boycott their stuff.

I do not think Moto is dumb to release a new RAZR model just to unlock the boot loader. They'll make this as an update to existing RAZR owners. Or at least offer a program to ship them your existing RAZR to get one with an unlocked boot loader.

dbam987 said:
I do not think Moto is dumb to release a new RAZR model with the unlocked boot loader. They'll make this as an update to existing RAZR owners. Or at least offer a program to ship them your existing RAZR to get the developer edition.
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Highly doubt that.
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jiwengang said:
I think Moto's management has some serious lessons to learn.
I was struggling with wether to get a Razr Maxx for a bit more $$.
Now I am not struggling anymore.
I am thinking to move to Galaxy Nexus now.
Guys does GN's radio really work much worse than Moto's one?
I just thought seems the only way we can let them know, is to boycott their stuff.
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never mind, spent some time at GN's forum and all I see was "horrible battery life" on LTE, even with extended battery..
WTF.... we can't even switch to a better one??

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Highly doubt that.
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HTC has a program to unlock their devices' boot loaders, why not Motorola?
Edit: Well maybe the 2nd half of my previous post is not plausible but the first definitely is.

Wow. That's soooooo ****ty if that's the case. I guess I'll have to do a warranty exchange to get the developer edition. Couldn't they just do a software unlock instead? This is just going to delay updates to EVERYONE.

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never mind, spent some time at GN's forum and all I see was "horrible battery life" on LTE, even with extended battery..
WTF.... we can't even switch to a better one??
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People are getting good things out of the Rezound.
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any LTE phone is going to have battery issues with the exception of the Maxx... my wife has a RAZR and I have a Nexus and her radio is much better indoors than mine. Out doors its about the same. My battery lasts longer as well through a day of typical use. I usually use mine more. But I personally have gotten 36 hours out of a single charge with toggling LTE/data with the most recent roms that are out for the nexus. Battery is relative to how you use it, a 1750mah battery will give a rezound much the same battery life as a nexus and razr.
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I literary face desked right now....
Holy **** my head hurt ~___~

This is Funny. Good luck all Razr user....

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[Q] Early upgrade to what?

My wife's Incredible is in the process of dying & I found out that I have the last of my yearly upgrades on my line & she's always wanted the x2, sooooo: What should I get, Razr, Rezound or GNex?
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Get anything Samsung.
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X0dus said:
Get anything Samsung.
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Can you root a stock Samsung phone now without having to deal with that "Rage against the Cage" nonsense? Tried it once on my wife's Facinate and my anti-virus program wouldn't let Rage run, even when I disabled it. (I know there are ROM's with pre-rooted Kernels you can flash. Just flashed rooted GB 2.3.5 kernel to my Galaxy Tab.)
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Get anything Samsung.
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Came from a fascinate & am suspicious of Samsung reception. The missed call thing was killing me & I haven't had one incident of that on the x2.
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Gnex sounds sick to me...
But u know if u wait a month something even crazier will be bound to drop Hahaha.
I was also digging the HTC resound that was announced
Galaxy Nexus. Hands down. I'll be getting one of those soon.
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yondercomesthetrain said:
Galaxy Nexus. Hands down. I'll be getting one of those soon.
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It does sound great but the lack of an sd card slot is kinda a deal breaker for me.
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ashclepdia said:
Gnex sounds sick to me...
But u know if u wait a month something even crazier will be bound to drop Hahaha.
I was also digging the HTC resound that was announced
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Yep, I know but it's either buy me a phone now or buy my wife one now, so how do you think that's gonna go? Lol
But all that aside, I checked out the razr today & plan on comparing it to the Rezound next week. My bottom line is reception & my x2 has never failed me where my wife's dinc hasn't been too impressive so htc might not be the best for me.
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Robin M said:
Can you root a stock Samsung phone now without having to deal with that "Rage against the Cage" nonsense? Tried it once on my wife's Facinate and my anti-virus program wouldn't let Rage run, even when I disabled it. (I know there are ROM's with pre-rooted Kernels you can flash. Just flashed rooted GB 2.3.5 kernel to my Galaxy Tab.)
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Rage in the cage new? Never had to use it. First root ever was a one click root i found somewhere. Then i used Odin to flash the stock froyo pre-root. I believe i seen a pre-root GB stock over there, too.
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I believe "Rage against the Cage" is the exploit scheme that they used on the Samsung one-click boot process. It's been about 6 months since I've tried to root the Facinate, so my memory is sketcy. The upside is that, as you mentioned, there are probably a lot of pre-rooted ROM offerings that can be easily flashed with Heimdall (or Odin, if yer into that).
I agree Sammy makes a good phone. Wife loves her Facinate. Sadly, the Galaxy II never made it to Verizon, but now lots of folks are waiting for the Nexus, which should be out around the end of the month. But I also like the Moto Droid line, now that we've been given some developer attention. The hardware is top notch, and my X2 is running VERY snappy and stable on Moto-Ginger-Funk v7a. I have no reason to want to trade up for a long while yet (unless Google cannot get a handle on their funky Market issue).
Droid Razr looks very sharp (sorry for the pun). I'm a little afraid of the non-removeable battery, though. There are loads of times that I have recoved my X2 from brink of "brickhood" just by pulling the battery and booting into recovery.
I'm not too crazy about the Razr's non-detachable battery. All too often taking the battery out and putting it back in seems to solve a problem, without having that ability on the Razr I'm somewhat concerned.
Odin=Heimdall but for diff operating systems, i believe. When my contract is up, I'm looking into sprint if vzw isn't allowed to launch the SGSII. And no, i have no intentions of turning this thread into a "who it's better sprint or vzw". Carry on w/ upgrade discussion...
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reaktorblue said:
I'm not too crazy about the Razr's non-detachable battery. All too often taking the battery out and putting it back in seems to solve a problem, without having that ability on the Razr I'm somewhat concerned.
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I'm pretty sure that the razr has a failsafe two buttons u.press to kill battery connection or something similar
.like a "hard kill" switch.
I am upgrading to the ReZound Monday. There are more reasons not to get the Razr, than there are to get it lol. If you are in an X2 now, you are better off either keeping it and riding out your time, or getting the ReZound/Nexus, at least right now.
AtLemacks said:
I am upgrading to the ReZound Monday. There are more reasons not to get the Razr, than there are to get it lol. If you are in an X2 now, you are better off either keeping it and riding out your time, or getting the ReZound/Nexus, at least right now.
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What led you to the Rezound? Beats audio or the the display?
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Well, the headphones alone carry a very hefty price, so getting them "free" for the same price as the other phones is a good incentive(probably why they aren't advertising the phone). I already have the SkullCandy Titan Earbuds, so I really don't NEED the Beats Audio ones. But, the camera's on it are both better. The screen resolution is on par with the nexus on a DX2 size screen. Removable battery, SD storage, unlockable BL, 1.5GHz processor.. Basically, the only "feature" it doesn't carry is the super slim design, and who gives a **** if the phone is lacking in so many other categories? lol.
My moms Stock Inc2 walked all over my X2 with Eclipse before I even put CM7 on it for her! HTC is doing all the right things, even with Sense. Too many people complain about Samsung, and I lived in Korea for 2 years from 07-09, we are getting their leftovers over here(Thanks FCC/FTC, and assholes running patent wars..Apple).
Yeah Im gonna look into adding a line soon. Not sure if I'm going to resound or nexus yet
Rezound looks sick. As does nexus(ICS!) but I can see resound getting ics eventually.
ha. HTC edge I thought about until I saw it was Tegra. I will wait for reviews on that before even trying it lol. This phone has lowered my expectations for tegra devices lol
Skip skip stutter...it drives me crazy how one day it seems skipping is.fixed but next its stutters again
garywojdan81 said:
My wife's Incredible is in the process of dying & I found out that I have the last of my yearly upgrades on my line & she's always wanted the x2, sooooo: What should I get, Razr, Rezound or GNex?
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His and hers X2's...it would be soooo cute
Well, couldn't hold out any longer...
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motcher41 said:
His and hers X2's...it would be soooo cute
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We did that actually, got the original DX the day they came out. Loved em. I moved from a bb curve and she from a Moto rokr. When the DX gb bugs hit we were offered DX2s and took them since we had the car docks etc. Didn't feel like switching 100 worth of accessories.
AtLemacks right, seems that the Razer with limitations or something without. Hardware is close enough on either one. Why move to another Moto and keep banging your head against the wall like we do daily.
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Well, couldn't hold out any longer...
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Wha?! Well you might as well let us know what your impressions are.
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Is the Razr getting a lot of Dev love?

I'm getting rid of my Droid 3 already and am trying to decide between the (coming soon) Droid 4 or the Galaxy Nexus. The Droid 4 is basically the same as the Razr but with a keyboard, which I love, but I'm wondering if the keyboard is a big enough trade-off for the Dev support...which the Galaxy Nexus is ALREADY getting TONS of.
Any indication of CM7 or CM9 being worked on by Devs for the Razr? If it works for the Razr, there's no doubt it'll work for the Droid 4...similar to how all Bionic themes/ROMs can be easily ported over to the Droid 3.
Thanks in advance.
Well the razr still has locked bootloader and all that ****e, so until ICS the razr won't see that much love, but we have root and a couple of good devs already here. Also the Galaxy Nexus ain't that much really, had it for 4 days and back with the razr
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ianford10 said:
Well the razr still has locked bootloader and all that ****e, so until ICS the razr won't see that much love, but we have root and a couple of good devs already here. Also the Galaxy Nexus ain't that much really, had it for 4 days and back with the razr
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Yea? Could you give me some insight on the display differences? I know the qHD pentile is always crucified when compared to the SuperAMOLED, but I'm curious as to how much of a difference the AMOLED has. I've looked up countless picture comparisons online, but they truly don't do either of the displays any justice. Since you owned it for a bit, could you elaborate on it for me?
Also, what other factors made you go with the Razr? You're just the person I was looking for =)
Thanks in advance.
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Also the Galaxy Nexus ain't that much really, had it for 4 days and back with the razr
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That would be an interesting read (thread) from your point of why you came back. You were having screen issues and everything, curious...
opensourcefan said:
That would be an interesting read (thread) from your point of why you came back. You were having screen issues and everything, curious...
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I can tell you know that my first 2 razrs suffered big time with the black blotches, I got that pissed off I got the Nexus, after fiddling with it for 4 days it just didn't feel right, plastic and just felt crap, screen was amazing and ICS was very responsive, but I got the razr from day 1 and wanted to give it another go so I ordered another, this one is perfect in the screen and Motorola have done a good job on this phone, I think it feels good, looks the biz and the display is cracking, in other words I wanted to believe in this phone and it's delivered, at last
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Yea? Could you give me some insight on the display differences? I know the qHD pentile is always crucified when compared to the SuperAMOLED, but I'm curious as to how much of a difference the AMOLED has. I've looked up countless picture comparisons online, but they truly don't do either of the displays any justice. Since you owned it for a bit, could you elaborate on it for me?
Also, what other factors made you go with the Razr? You're just the person I was looking for =)
Thanks in advance.
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The screen is great, if you want to find faults you will, look past all what has been said and you won't be disappointed
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I've been battling back and forth on this...what to do when the GN comes out. I really like the Razr but there's one major deal that really bugs me...two, actually. The locked bootloader and it has a issue in the Android sys called 'suspend' that is killing the battery life. It could be so much better if it didn't have that issue but batt life is a huge deal especially with these smart phones that get so much use. I love the screen, love the build quality, how thin the phone is. Bought a killer cover for the phone from Verizon that has perfect grip to it, perfect size and a kickstand on the back that folds up when not in use. Really love the size of it! It's a kickin' phone but will it get Developer love like the GN will? Decisions decisions....
The Bootloader being locked is temporary. The suspend battery issue may not be an issue or it may be fixed if it is. If you like the RAZR and especially like it more than the GN then software shouldn't really be a buy factor as it will drastically change in the near future.
opensourcefan said:
The Bootloader being locked is temporary.
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For (most of?) you lucky non-US users, that is. Those of us on Verizon are hanging in limbo. We don't know for sure.
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Any indication of CM7 or CM9 being worked on by Devs for the Razr? If it works for the Razr, there's no doubt it'll work for the Droid 4...similar to how all Bionic themes/ROMs can be easily ported over to the Droid 3.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes.
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As for now, the bootloader is locked, so, you won't see anything like custom kernels and great improvements. Other devs will surely come when the bl will be unlocked in January.
At the moment, I can assure the EternityProject Team is on the RAZR.
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I can tell you know that my first 2 razrs suffered big time with the black blotches, I got that pissed off I got the Nexus, after fiddling with it for 4 days it just didn't feel right, plastic and just felt crap, screen was amazing and ICS was very responsive, but I got the razr from day 1 and wanted to give it another go so I ordered another, this one is perfect in the screen and Motorola have done a good job on this phone, I think it feels good, looks the biz and the display is cracking, in other words I wanted to believe in this phone and it's delivered, at last
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I have the same problem(screen) but I can live with it, I guess. Sometimes it disturb, but there is no challenger for it. HTC makes too identical phones and Sense sucks. Galaxy Nexus is too plastic and soft design makes me sick. But anyways this AMOLED is awesome! I can forgive these black "ink-marks".
They will came visible when colors are near this this and this
kholk said:
As for now, the bootloader is locked, so, you won't see anything like custom kernels and great improvements. Other devs will surely come when the bl will be unlocked in January.
At the moment, I can assure the EternityProject Team is on the RAZR.
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Oh cool, there's finally a rom for the RAZR?
I know that the GN had like a 1/2 dozen already where the RAZR had none.... off to the dev section to see this newness that you speak of!

Droid x2 users help me pick a new phone

I hope this is ok to post. I came across this promotion where Verizon is willing to let me upgrade early to a 4g phone. I'm asking here cause I've followed this forum for a while and I trust advice from the regular posters here!
I don't think I want to go the Motorola route this time cause of the locked bootloader issue. Im thinking about the rezound, spectrum, or nexus.
The rezound sounds appealing now because of the unlocked bootloader. I would go for a nexus but its more expensive plus I need HDMI. (The rezound is currently $99) I use it daily. The nexus is lacking in accessories big time. So can I get some opinions from my fellow X2 users?
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I hope this is ok to post. I came across this promotion where Verizon is willing to let me upgrade early to a 4g phone. I'm asking here cause I've followed this forum for a while and I trust advice from the regular posters here!
I don't think I want to go the Motorola route this time cause of the locked bootloader issue. Im thinking about the rezound, spectrum, or nexus.
The rezound sounds appealing now because of the unlocked bootloader. I would go for a nexus but its more expensive plus I need HDMI. (The rezound is currently $99) I use it daily. The nexus is lacking in accessories big time. So can I get some opinions from my fellow X2 users?
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i say wait and lets hear what motos new ceo does with the motos bl issue
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I've been kind of looking at upgrades too. I keep holding off just because the X2 is just beginning to get interesting. At least in my book. That said, I've been looking at the Rezound and Nexus too. They both have their minuses (like all phones) but if I do upgrade, I'm leaning toward the Rezound. One thing about the Rezound though, if you want to use HDMI, you have to buy an adapter for it. It doesn't have a dedicated port for it. Rather, it uses the USB port and for that to work, you have to buy the adapter. One more thing you need to buy but for me, it's not that big of a deal.
Spend some time reading in the forums here for the phones you are interested in and you'll get an idea of what's best for you. If you see a thread in the Rezound or Nexus forum titled something like, Rezound or Nexus, which one?, ignore them. Well, don't ignore them but remember if you're in a Rezound forum and ask that question, there's not much doubt about the way they are going to push you. Same goes for the same question in the Nexus forum. Anyway, spend some time in those forums and you'll get more of a feel for which phone is right for you.
Like I said, I've settled on the Rezound myself. However, I'm holding off to see what comes next for the X2. At least for a bit.
Whatever the case, my next phone won't be a Motorola. It's a shame too. Love their hardware. I don't think they take second to anybody else in the department but I'm kind of tired of being locked out of full usage of a phone that I bought and paid for. Just my two cents worth.
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I've been kind of looking at upgrades too. I keep holding off just because the X2 is just beginning to get interesting. At least in my book. That said, I've been looking at the Rezound and Nexus too. They both have their minuses (like all phones) but if I do upgrade, I'm leaning toward the Rezound. One thing about the Rezound though, if you want to use HDMI, you have to buy an adapter for it. It doesn't have a dedicated port for it. Rather, it uses the USB port and for that to work, you have to buy the adapter. One more thing you need to buy but for me, it's not that big of a deal.
Spend some time reading in the forums here for the phones you are interested in and you'll get an idea of what's best for you. If you see a thread in the Rezound or Nexus forum titled something like, Rezound or Nexus, which one?, ignore them. Well, don't ignore them but remember if you're in a Rezound forum and ask that question, there's not much doubt about the way they are going to push you. Same goes for the same question in the Nexus forum. Anyway, spend some time in those forums and you'll get more of a feel for which phone is right for you.
Like I said, I've settled on the Rezound myself. However, I'm holding off to see what comes next for the X2. At least for a bit.
Whatever the case, my next phone won't be a Motorola. It's a shame too. Love their hardware. I don't think they take second to anybody else in the department but I'm kind of tired of being locked out of full usage of a phone that I bought and paid for. Just my two cents worth.
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I think the x2 is getting interesting too but being throttled sucks. My download speeds are horrible.
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Well, if they're terrible because you're being throttled, that's not going to change no matter what phone you're using.
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I think the x2 is getting interesting too but being throttled sucks. My download speeds are horrible.
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Getting a new phone probably wont stop Verizon from throttling you...
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Well, if they're terrible because you're being throttled, that's not going to change no matter what phone you're using.
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4g isn't throttled. Unlimited 3g is
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I kinda agree with this
cuz if they end up getting the unlocks ball rolling, the razr maxx would be a nice phone to grab unlocked...
rezound and nexus are good choices also.
the nexus doesn't have hdmi??? that REALLY surprises me
or u could hold out another month and see what "next big thing" drops in march/early april, there should be some sick devices coming...
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I kinda agree with this
cuz if they end up getting the unlocks ball rolling, the razr maxx would be a nice phone to grab unlocked...
rezound and nexus are good choices also.
the nexus doesn't have hdmi??? that REALLY surprises me
or u could hold out another month and see what "next big thing" drops in march/early april, there should be some sick devices coming...
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I agree..if Motorola does unlock bootloaders I would definitely be interested in raze maxx or whatever Motorola releases next. Only thing is the rezound is only 99 dollars so that's kind of hard to pass up. I'm not sure that a new CEO is going to make a difference in locked bootlaloaders though. I mean it definitely could for sure, but I think that decision goes a lot further then just one person. But again if the person who runs the place wants it done it would be done
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the nexus doesn't have hdmi??? that REALLY surprises me
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No external sd card either. Not a deal breaker but a big strike against it. IMHO
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I agree..if Motorola does unlock bootloaders I would definitely be interested in raze maxx or whatever Motorola releases next. Only thing is the rezound is only 99 dollars so that's kind of hard to pass up. I'm not sure that a new CEO is going to make a difference in locked bootlaloaders though. I mean it definitely could for sure, but I think that decision goes a lot further then just one person. But again if the person who runs the place wants it done it would be done
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the thing I liked in the article I read bout the ceo switch was "he isn't afraid to roll up his sleeves and put in work" hopefully that means he will make some changes and do things instead of sitting around just collecting fat stacks lol...
and robocuff, I guess im one of the few who thinks 32gb is plenty of space lol...if I had a 4g phone like that I also wouldn't mind storing pretty much all my music and pics in "cloud" form. which would mean I would probly never even fill up HALF that 32gb....and I've convinced myself that the system not having to read an external memory source would speed up how the phone performs ....probly doesn't make a difference tho lol
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The nexus has HDMI through mhl adapters like the Rezound.
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Well, ash, I did say it wasn't a deal breaker. Anyway, I guess I'd just prefer an sd card if I can have one. I wouldn't rule out the Nexus just because of that. Just from what I read so far, the Rezound seems to be the way I want to lean right now.
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Well, ash, I did say it wasn't a deal breaker. Anyway, I guess I'd just prefer an sd card if I can have one. I wouldn't rule out the Nexus just because of that. Just from what I read so far, the Rezound seems to be the way I want to lean right now.
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I thought I'd miss the SD card myself. Now that there are all of these cloud services with huge free GB allotments, I can't imagine needing more than 32 gigs on my nexus. When I mod my wife's DX2, I'm frustrated to have everything separated.
I'd say between the nexus and Rezound, you can't make a wrong choice. They're both top phones. The only thing the nexus has in my book is development support. This is the og droid all over again. This thing will be around for a loooooong time.
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Well, ash, I did say it wasn't a deal breaker. Anyway, I guess I'd just prefer an sd card if I can have one. I wouldn't rule out the Nexus just because of that. Just from what I read so far, the Rezound seems to be the way I want to lean right now.
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lol
was just screwing wit ya...in actuality, id prolly fill that 32gb up quick lol
from what I've heard the rezound is solid, plus you'll be getting ics apparently by summer officially...I was highly considering the rezound also....but a certain dev getting nexus makes me.lean that way more
Well, I'm not really sure yet either. I feel like jumping to another but like I said before, things are just getting interesting here. Besides, I think of all the extras I have and it all works great together and, well, I don't know. If I do jump it'll probably be the Rezound for me though. I'll sit on it for a bit. I'm a bowhunter. I have lots of patience.
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Well, I'm not really sure yet either. I feel like jumping to another but like I said before, things are just getting interesting here. Besides, I think of all the extras I have and it all works great together and, well, I don't know. If I do jump it'll probably be the Rezound for me though. I'll sit on it for a bit. I'm a bowhunter. I have lots of patience.
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I'm excited that I get to play with my Nexus but also stick around the DX2 scene. DZK is doing some great stuff around here.
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The nexus does play the the tv via the docking station.
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The nexus does play the the tv via the docking station.
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I saw a docking station for the nexus today and it was 90 dollars and didn't have an HDMI port. I guess you have to use an adapter for the USB is what someone mentioned?
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Is this early upgrade deal just for you or a verizon thing. I'm guessing just for you lol since verizon hates me.

Thinking about switching from a Nexus

So I have cracked the screen on my Galaxy Nexus for a second time. I am thinking about getting the razr maxx with the insurance instead of another nexus. I was hoping you all could give me some straight forward feedback about the device. For example, is the battery life really that great? What is development like here on xda. How is the screen? Call clarity and so forth. Thank you all in advance and I appreciate your time for reply.
mark manning said:
So I have cracked the screen on my Galaxy Nexus for a second time. I am thinking about getting the razr maxx with the insurance instead of another nexus. I was hoping you all could give me some straight forward feedback about the device. For example, is the battery life really that great? What is development like here on xda. How is the screen? Call clarity and so forth. Thank you all in advance and I appreciate your time for reply.
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Get ready for a ckosed doors for devs on razr. You buy razr, motorola owns your brain.
Cheers
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pedrotorresfilho said:
Get ready for a ckosed doors for devs on razr. You buy razr, motorola owns your brain.
Cheers
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Explain more please
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RAZR<=Gnex<maxx
If you are used to flash junk and customize your phone a lot. Keep your nexus.
Call quality on RAZR/maxx superior. Camera better on RAZR. Battery is outstanding on Maxx.
You might feel awkward holding edgy RAZR vs smooth nexus.
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droidxrooting said:
RAZR<=Gnex<maxx
If you are used to flash junk and customize your phone a lot. Keep your nexus.
Call quality on RAZR/maxx superior. Camera better on RAZR. Battery is outstanding on Maxx.
You might feel awkward holding edgy RAZR vs smooth nexus.
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All I really want is cm 9 at most root at the very least. Do you know if either of those are possible?
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I have prob 5 friends w modded nexuses. The screen is sharper on the nexus but much easier to read in any kind of light from me on the maxx. The battery if amazing. I can avg 5 hrs screen on time on 3g alone. The camera is actually much better than I originally thought and takes nice pictures very easily but no camera is as fast as the nexus...although I have only seen a stock nexus actually work correctly in the camera Dept.
I miss ics as I have had it on many phones since last oct but the ics leak is good for the RAZR. Still great battery life there. I rooted mine and froze a bunch of apps today that I don't use but I get the same battery life whether I freeze them or not.
One mild complaint that you may have is the RAZR gallery has a terrible pinch zoom bug. I use quickpic for my gallery and froze the stock gallery along w a lot of other stuff.
In the end its a phone. Calls are clear. Reception is great. And it really last all day. No rebooting all the time. No errors. No problems here. I like that.
mark manning said:
All I really want is cm 9 at most root at the very least. Do you know if either of those are possible?
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Watch this, it's prety much my opinion after 4 months with razr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtyZhwvhqiQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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pedrotorresfilho said:
Watch this, it's prety much my opinion after 4 months with razr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtyZhwvhqiQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Lmao that was pretty good! .... thanks for bursting my bubble lol
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mark manning said:
Lmao that was pretty good! .... thanks for bursting my bubble lol
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Wanted someone had did mine. I'm disapointed. It's my second razr and it's going to moto services again. Came with no GPS, scratched...
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mark manning said:
So I have cracked the screen on my Galaxy Nexus for a second time. I am thinking about getting the razr maxx with the insurance instead of another nexus. I was hoping you all could give me some straight forward feedback about the device. For example, is the battery life really that great? What is development like here on xda. How is the screen? Call clarity and so forth. Thank you all in advance and I appreciate your time for reply.
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Having never owned a Nexus I cannot compare the two but can offer my opinions of the MAXX as it compares to many Android phones from my past. The battery is simply amazing, best I could have ever hoped for. I can abuse my phone (granted that term is subjective) throughout the day and still have some juice left when I go to bed at night. My dad only uses his for calls and his lasts 3-4 days consistantly.
The screen is OK. IMO it is far inferior to the GSII that I came from. If you look close enough you can see a slight screen door effect that looks rather grainy. Not as bad as my Photon was, but still not as good of a screen as I have seen in other phones.
Motorola phones are not known for having a big dev community. I saw a lot more dev activity when I had an EVO 4G, EVO 3D and GSII. That may be the deal breaker for you if you are looking for much more than an out of the box experience.
Having said all of that, if you want an extremely solid phone, then the MAXX can deliver that. My experience in reception is much better than anything I ever owned on Sprint or Verizon and I live in an area with great coverage.
Good luck with whatever you choose.
pedrotorresfilho said:
Watch this, it's prety much my opinion after 4 months with razr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtyZhwvhqiQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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stop referring to that douchbage and stupid video with that makes no sense, if u dont like the razr sell it and buy a gnex.
to OP: Get the MAXX, the battery is awesome there. Now that we have kexec and when we have the second core running we can fully run modified kernels for our RAZR's
romdroid. said:
stop referring to that douchbage and stupid video with that makes no sense, if u dont like the razr sell it and buy a gnex.
to OP: Get the MAXX, the battery is awesome there. Now that we have kexec and when we have the second core running we can fully run modified kernels for our RAZR's
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I would love a gsm maxx razr, now it's only 4 USA and I'm out of the borders.
I like razr, gotcha XT910 in december. Bought it because its amazing hardware , but I can't say I'm happy stuck in 2.3.5 GB due locked bl. Others devices in same categorie like SGII, Arc S,, and HTC now are running ICS flawless. To us, we can.only hope get hands on ICS by Q2,, at least.
Also, this is my second razr, and tomorrow I'll leave it to motorola service center again. I've a reason to be disapointed.
Have top phones since 90's and this is far away my best phone ever. Moved to android (came from 'siri' phone) because it's very popular in Brazil, and overall razr design. But you need luck to get a razr with no problem at all, at least, those made here, all LatAm, have to say. I dont see guys from XT912 (you have one right?) complain' about it.
May be too late indeed to motorola unlock bl, SGSIII is on the way with a 1.8 Quade core....
The AdamOtler vdd seems a bit radical, but he made the point. Cannot comment an opinion without reffer to it.
Cheers
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pedrotorresfilho said:
Others devices in same categorie like SGII, Arc S,, and HTC now are running ICS flawless....
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Although the ICS leaks and ROMs are really good. They are not flawless. And won't be until the official release. Even the devs admit that. They all have bugs, albeit very minor bugs.
The big things for me was the HDMI out and the micro sd card. If you get a maxx then you get the awesome battery. While the dev for the phone is low right now, ICS is just around the corner and with a boot workaround here/being worked on I think the razr is the better phone.
both are great devices. so it depends what you want to do with each.
if mods, hacks, roms, flashing are your thing - Galaxy Nexus
limited tinkering - moto razr.
having said that, razr has better battery life. very lightweight. better camera too. plus storage is expandable.
I had the Nexus before I had my Razr Maxx.... Night and day. Radio was garbage in comparison on the Nexus, always bad reception. Battery life is SO much better. Razr feels much more solid. Aside from ICS, the nexus honestly seemed like a piece of junk when I got this.
Is cm9 available yet? Can you even flash custom roms?
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Returned my GNEX after three days wit it, bought the Razr and have never been happier. No problems here.
pedrotorresfilho said:
Wanted someone had did mine. I'm disapointed. It's my second razr and it's going to moto services again. Came with no GPS, scratched...
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Cause no Samsung phone has ever had problems. Give this video a break as Adam has no clue about the razr. He doesnt dev for it so he has no reason to talk ****. Just because they built it this way does not make it any less disposable than other phones. If it breaks and its your fault, then guess what, you fed up. If its not your fault you get a replacement or switch.
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Buying Droid Razr, need help!

Hey guys, I am a Nexus S 4G user looking to buy a new (used) phone. I've been researching phones for about a month now, and it eventually came down to the Droid RAZR and the HTC EVO 4G LTE/HTC ONE X. I've decided to go with the RAZR simply because I'm really liking the slimness of it. Now I'm here to ask you guys what issues do I need to know about the RAZR and what should I be wary of when buying it. Also, if there are any ex-Nexus S users in the RAZR community, could you please let me know what you found lacking in the phone compared to the Nexus S? As far as I can see, NFC is the only let down, but I only used it once or twice. Thanks in advance!:good:
Edit: Sorry, just realized I posted in the wrong section. Please forgive my noon self, and move this to the Q&A mods please?
Talal916 said:
Hey guys, I am a Nexus S 4G user looking to buy a new (used) phone. I've been researching phones for about a month now, and it eventually came down to the Droid RAZR and the HTC EVO 4G LTE/HTC ONE X. I've decided to go with the RAZR simply because I'm really liking the slimness of it. Now I'm here to ask you guys what issues do I need to know about the RAZR and what should I be wary of when buying it. Also, if there are any ex-Nexus S users in the RAZR community, could you please let me know what you found lacking in the phone compared to the Nexus S? As far as I can see, NFC is the only let down, but I only used it once or twice. Thanks in advance!:good:
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Since you are coming from the nexus s, if you are used to flash roms kernel etc, forget them. The razr have a lockedbootloader and few dev so is a bit a let down from this point of view.
If you don't care about modding then is a really good phone, is slim, very well build with a good reception. Someone say that the wifi is not that great i find it normal. The camera is not as good as many other phone.
Compared to the newest phone (like the htc one x or the galaxy s3) is slower but if you don't play game is still a fast phone.
So to sum up, if you can find it at a good price then is worth buying it (considering it you don't care modding, if you are buying android for modding then i suggest you to forget motorola)
BakaPhoenix said:
Since you are coming from the nexus s, if you are used to flash roms kernel etc, forget them. The razr have a lockedbootloader and few dev so is a bit a let down from this point of view.
If you don't care about modding then is a really good phone, is slim, very well build with a good reception. Someone say that the wifi is not that great i find it normal. The camera is not as good as many other phone.
Compared to the newest phone (like the htc one x or the galaxy s3) is slower but if you don't play game is still a fast phone.
So to sum up, if you can find it at a good price then is worth buying it (considering it you don't care modding, if you are buying android for modding then i suggest you to forget motorola)
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Ow, is it really that bad? I feel so stupid now for not checking the development for the RAZR. Guess I'm just a spoiled Nexus user When you say the camera isn't as good as some phones, how would you compare it to baseline phones such as the iPhone 4S and Galaxy Nexus/S2? Also if you've had any experience with the Nexus S camera, can you please tell me how the RAZR's camera compares to that? Thank you soo much for the help especially for warning me about the boot loader issue though! :banghead:
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no the camera is decent and is like/or better than IP4S,sgs2 etc...specially with ICS
eyriiii said:
no the camera is decent and is like/or better than IP4S,sgs2 etc...specially with ICS
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How is the video recording and image stabilization? I was watching some camera test videos on Youtube, and the RAZR's camera looked really shaky?
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Talal916 said:
How is the video recording and image stabilization? I was watching some camera test videos on Youtube, and the RAZR's camera looked really shaky?
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I guess u are seing reviews when RAZR had GB? They have improved the camera a lot with ICS update imo
There IS development for the RAZR. Yes, it doesn't have an unlocked bootloader, but KEXEC is in development which will allow loading of new kernels. Currently, it's main issue is that CPU1 stays offline for some reason when booting up modified kernels.
Otherwise, there is a pretty good development community out there. CM9 is out for the RAZR as is MIUI. There are other ROMs as well. Again, it's not like the Galaxy which has an unlocked bootloader, but quality-wise, the phone is awesome. Excellent radios, fast and responsive and just thin like a razor!
If you can, you might want to look at getting the RAZR MAXX. Much better battery life than the Original (OG) RAZR. I have the OG RAZR and I can get pretty good battery life IF I don't play games. But, with some tweaking, I've been able to keep it going all day at work if I limit my use to texting, checking emails and some web surfing.
I suggest you spent a little more to get a Maxx. The extra battery really worth it because LTE is much, much more power hungry than 3G. Here in NJ I saw several listing for Maxx asking 350, and Razr for 275.
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Thank you guys for the help! I'll definitely take the MAXX into consideration as battery life is a big point for me. As for the lack of development on the RAZR, I'll keep my Nexus around as a backup phone in case the development gets too slow.
By the way, does the RAZR/MAXX have any known defects or issues that I should check out when buying used?
Thanks again for all the help!:thumbup:
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Talal916 said:
Thank you guys for the help! I'll definitely take the MAXX into consideration as battery life is a big point for me. As for the lack of development on the RAZR, I'll keep my Nexus around as a backup phone in case the development gets too slow.
By the way, does the RAZR/MAXX have any known defects or issues that I should check out when buying used?
Thanks again for all the help!:thumbup:
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I just bought one used and should have tested the speaker as it was faulty. Swapped it out of my OG Razr though and ordered one on ebay. I got a mint maxx off craigslist for 300 yesterday.
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I agree also there is lots of development for the razr locked bootloader or not.
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mkarps said:
I just bought one used and should have tested the speaker as it was faulty. Swapped it out of my OG Razr though and ordered one on ebay. I got a mint maxx off craigslist for 300 yesterday.
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I read your post after buying the phone but your right, I should've tested the speaker. Thank God though everything seems to work perfectly. The closest Maxx was about an hour away , so I settled on the base RAZR in white, mint condition for $250.
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mkarps said:
I agree also there is lots of development for the razr locked bootloader or not.
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Is rooting easy on this phone compared to the Nexus phones? I think I'll play with it for a few days before I root it and flash it to metropcs.
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Talal916 said:
Is rooting easy on this phone compared to the Nexus phones? I think I'll play with it for a few days before I root it and flash it to metropcs.
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very easy, check out the development section
The RAZR camera isn't that good. It comes out blurry sometimes. Pictures only come out decent in sunlight. And from time to time I experience lag. It's very annoying.
But going to a Motorola I knew I was sacrificing things. Now I got a reliable wireless radio phone and great battery in the RAZR Maxx and ICS, closest to stock ICS that isn't a google phone or a custom rom!
I had a Galaxy S2 on Sprint before this phone. That phone's camera kills the RAZR in video recording and taking still pictures. And I never EVER had lag on the GS2. My big beef with that phone was it had the worst wireless radio on it combined with Sprint's network, sucks.
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