Just take a look at this link, whatz the damn unlocked edition?
Seems our phones wouldn't be unlocked:
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/0...will-feature-unlocked-bootloader-in-europe-2/
WATTEFUK MOTO
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I just read that also. what the heck. this is cheating us completely.
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just saw it, i hope they will unlock our device aswell with ics...
If they don't unlock all the razr devices and have a "special" version of the razr in the U.S. that comes unlocked from the factory, Motorola is going to catch severe backlash. Im talking major uproar.
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Same I say here .. Very bad news and bad politic !!
This is VERY disappointing Moto! Why do you expect your customers to shell out another Euro 499 for an unlocked BL! Allow me to unlock my Razr's BL and keep your warranty!
I just saw this.... I can't believe they're not only release yet another razr already but they expect us to shell out even more money for something we should've had in the first place!
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Thdy did say they will provide tools on moto dev for locking and unlocking so they may br compatible fingers crossed!
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Cant we Just Extract the unlocked boootloader from the dev edition or something?? I am sure devs can do something .
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Thdy did say they will provide tools on moto dev for locking and unlocking so they may br compatible fingers crossed!
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They have said an awful lot but Motorola press releases are VERY carefully written.
I bet everyone is passed by their legal department.
Motorola Europe on Facebook, posted on 29/12/11:
"the team is continuing to work through plans on an unlockable version for Europe and hoping to have details in the next week or so on when that might actually come to market. That's all we have for the moment but looks like details may be forthcoming."
We all got excited about that thinking that it meant they would be unlocking OUR bootloaders, but no, it meant they would try and get more money out of us by releasing a new phone.
Many years ago I used to work for Computer Associates, they didn't give a **** about the customers it was revenue and how to screw the most out of people. Every contract was watertight and we even had company's paying for software they couldn't use!
Motorola reminds me so much of those days.
As an organisation they stink!
I'll continue to develop on the Motorola RAZR (actually mine is bricked anyway) but after it, I'll never develop anymore for any Motorola device.
I feel like joked, I didn't think a company like Moto could do something like this. It's simply unbelievable.
The EternityProject Team Manager & Main Developer,
--kholk
Well for me too, this is the last moto phone i buy.
its a shame a company like motorola do this.
And the worst is google is behind this.
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I'll continue to develop on the Motorola RAZR (actually mine is bricked anyway) but after it, I'll never develop anymore for any Motorola device.
I feel like joked, I didn't think a company like Moto could do something like this. It's simply unbelievable.
The EternityProject Team Manager & Main Developer,
--kholk
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That's great to hear... Minus the bricked phone part lol. Just let us know what phone you're eyeing next so we know where to jump ship towards!
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Actually I'm waiting for the ASUS PadFone or alternatively the LG X3... Tegra3 seems to outperform everything
I think if Motorola not change this all our "hello moto" will become "see you never again moto".....
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Here are the people who lie to us:
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/content/default.aspx?NewsAreaID=1
I suggest that we bombard the following people with email and calls demanding to know why they continue to ignore us:
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Content/Detail.aspx?ReleaseID=13321&NewsAreaID=26
Let them understand our anger at their decisions.
won't this just give us more opportunity's to maybe unlock the locked phones??
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won't this just give us more opportunity's to maybe unlock the locked phones??
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I dont think so, it means the moto is cheating us, and there is no way to unlock our current phones,
shame on u moto
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Probably not; my guess is it will be nearly identical hardware with a different signature for the bootloader. I can sort of see this approach had it been done at release time; but after the fact this is a total cop-out. Given that samsung and htc do not have lock bootloaders on us carriers I think the only thing moto will listen to is a vote with the wallet...
So yea I chose the razr over the alternatives with this upgrade; but to be honest this crap with micro-versions (bigger battery, unlock bootloader,...) AFTER the fact combined with moto change in policy after the fact suggest this is not a company I wish to deal with in the future.
(after all they did claim they would unlock the bootloader by end of 2011; and it was htc who did the unlocking int hat period).
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Cant we Just Extract the unlocked boootloader from the dev edition or something?? I am sure devs can do something .
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Yes, me also same Razr may be my last Moto phone.
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Related
http://limitlessdroid.com/2011/06/1...ock-bootloaders-as-long-as-carriers-allow-it/
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Dang, by that time I'll have either the Samsung Prime or HTC Vigor....
I'll believe it when I see it.
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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+1 indeed!
That article is dated 6/14 wake me up when you find some real news.
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Don't forget that it depends on the carrier if they will allow it. But who knows verizon really doesn't like root users. I believe sprint is the only carrier that doesn't care what you do to your phone.
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Don't forget that it depends on the carrier if they will allow it. But who knows verizon really doesn't like root users. I believe sprint is the only carrier that doesn't care what you do to your phone.
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Verizon will allow it, I've asked.
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That article is dated 6/14 wake me up when you find some real news.
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Yeah I know but it was like 3-4 months after we heard about the GB update before it started trickling down so I was just hoping.
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Verizon will allow it, I've asked.
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It says the will ACTIVATE with unlocked. Doesn't say they will give us an opportunity to unlock. Sneaky wording at least that's what I am taking from this until I see my x2 with unlocked BL or Verizon put a statement saying they will allow current users to unlock.
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It says the will ACTIVATE with unlocked. Doesn't say they will give us an opportunity to unlock. Sneaky wording at least that's what I am taking from this until I see my x2 with unlocked BL or Verizon put a statement saying they will allow current users to unlock.
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its only illegal if you get caught...
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its only illegal if you get caught...
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Thats a great motto!!! Haha
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My phone, my rules. I am the customer and I call the shots.
Would be a shame if I misplaced my X2 and had to report it stolen... only to get another and have to sell it for a phone that supports features I am looking for.
Just saying.
Maybe with google on board now they will unlock it since they are doing away with the nexus as a dev phone, alteast that its what I heard.
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Lets see if the unlock really happens, I doubt it though !!!
I thought Motorola said back in June that they were suppose to provide a method to unlock bootloaders in Q3. I am still waiting for it so I can officially unlock it so I can still maintain my 4G connection.
This sucks because HTC already has a method to officially unlock bootloaders for certain phones with the list growing. Anyone know any news on this?
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I thought Motorola said back in June that they were suppose to provide a method to unlock bootloaders in Q3. I am still waiting for it so I can officially unlock it so I can still maintain my 4G connection.
This sucks because HTC already has a method to officially unlock bootloaders for certain phones with the list growing. Anyone know any news on this?
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As of now nobody knows
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I hope soon... if not, I believe Yay 4 Juggs knows how to fix it.
ericdabbs said:
I thought Motorola said back in June that they were suppose to provide a method to unlock bootloaders in Q3. I am still waiting for it so I can officially unlock it so I can still maintain my 4G connection.
This sucks because HTC already has a method to officially unlock bootloaders for certain phones with the list growing. Anyone know any news on this?
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The HTC method forces you to identify and void your warranty
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cornelious2 said:
The HTC method forces you to identify and void your warranty
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As it should be, if there is a possibility for wrecking your device by choice, HTC needs to know who is doing it so they don't have to pay for it - now that being said They should still want to help the person out if it is broken - especially if you can tell the brick or issue was not because of 3rd party software. I have heard HTC has been good about still replacing devices that are registered as unlocked.
Yeah, HTC kind of bastardized "unlocking the bootloader."
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As it should be, if there is a possibility for wrecking your device by choice, HTC needs to know who is doing it so they don't have to pay for it - now that being said They should still want to help the person out if it is broken - especially if you can tell the brick or issue was not because of 3rd party software. I have heard HTC has been good about still replacing devices that are registered as unlocked.
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you mean like this? http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/05/26/htc-thunderbolt-gingerbread-bricking-problem-froyo-revert/
or how about samsungs intercept bricks going to 2.2?
oems arent perfect
What exactly are the differences between unlocking the boot loader and rooting the phone? I've already rooted, but what exactly does unlocking the boot loader do?
Unlocking allows you to flash custom kernels and custom rom's. That's a pretty general statement seeing as I am new to the android scene, I'm sure someone else will elaborate.
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kingbg23 said:
What exactly are the differences between unlocking the boot loader and rooting the phone? I've already rooted, but what exactly does unlocking the boot loader do?
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Unlocking the bootloader allows you to rewrite partitions on the device with out checking for security keys.
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motorola bad after I was almost in ruins can not do a good deed for their users unlock the bootloader or at least the new models
daniel129001 said:
motorola bad after I was almost in ruins can not do a good deed for their users unlock the bootloader or at least the new models
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A period, coma, something. Would really be of some use here.
xTMFxOffshore said:
A period, coma, something. Would really be of some use here.
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You'll love this! http://immigrate2us.net/forum/showthread.php?50024-Why-Punctuation-Matters
Lolol. Wow.
My favorite is:
http://cheezburger.com/View/3757654016
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As it should be, if there is a possibility for wrecking your device by choice, HTC needs to know who is doing it so they don't have to pay for it - now that being said They should still want to help the person out if it is broken - especially if you can tell the brick or issue was not because of 3rd party software. I have heard HTC has been good about still replacing devices that are registered as unlocked.
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100% true and coming from two other unlocked and rooted HTC phones, I can say (from personal experience) that they have awesome customer care.
I was actually sad that when I switched to Sprint there wasnt a decent HTC phone to choose other than the Nexus S - which was already becoming dated. Took a gamble with this motorola phone, so time will tell. So far, so good.
pIxiLatEd said:
100% true and coming from two other unlocked and rooted HTC phones, I can say (from personal experience) that they have awesome customer care.
I was actually sad that when I switched to Sprint there wasnt a decent HTC phone to choose other than the Nexus S - which was already becoming dated. Took a gamble with this motorola phone, so time will tell. So far, so good.
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Nexus s is samsung
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Moto will never release an unlocked bootloader. First the Vendors would have to approve that, second. vendors and OM's would not be able to support devices. HTC is taking it on the chin right now for releasing unlocked bootloaders without Vendor approval.
halfdriven said:
Moto will never release an unlocked bootloader. First the Vendors would have to approve that, second. vendors and OM's would not be able to support devices. HTC is taking it on the chin right now for releasing unlocked bootloaders without Vendor approval.
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They did unlock the atrix...
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They did unlock the atrix...
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Photon will be next
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This is just a placeholder thread!
This is just a placeholder post !
it is also a placeholder post
Team??????
Am gona buy this wonder piece next week on its arrival.
mee too
Razr FTW !
Hi Sems!
I tend to get one as well, but still not sure if the European version will have an unlocked bootloader (as rumored) or not.
But first have to get my 4S, sell it then get RAZR.
Hey Ras!
Its nice to see you here as well. This phone really excites me and i am so eager to get mine. 4S ? I am gonna slice it in two with my razr
Welcome to xda
Semseddin said:
4S ? I am gonna slice it in two with my razr
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LOL, nice.
I m also waiting to get hand on this cool ÂRT....
Well, it's rooted, turns out Bionic's one click root method works in the RAZR too
Any chance we'll see Cyanogenmod in this device?
mee tooo
i m waiting this RAZR
Waitin' for the EU RAZR. Hopefully with an unlockable bootloader.
Anyone with an Australian version confirm unlockable bootloader yet???
the US version for the carrier Verizon, is said to have an unlocked bootloader
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the US version for the carrier Verizon, is said to have an unlocked bootloader
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Can you confirm? I actually thought the opposite was true.
hmm
on the Droid X2 right now... not buying another Moto unless unlocked bootloader is confirmed
Can't wait for this phone I'm getting it with my upgrade
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I am waiting too for this incredible phone but will come in France only in 2012 with ICS
"He says that "most" Motorola devices released since 2011 will get upgraded to Android 4.1 Jelly Bean before the end of the year..."
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3294428/motorola-100-credit-jelly-bean-upgrade
What do you think?
Will that even apply to us in the uk and europe. And i don't like the term "very soon"
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Hard to believe it all.
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Lol let them release ics first
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After this annoucement they off course will update Our razr maxx to jelly bean, the question is when....
Jaocagomez said:
After this annoucement they off course will update Our razr maxx to jelly bean, the question is when....
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Why only maxxx?
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I will only believe this announcement if Jelly Bean for RAZR XT910 become real before the end of the year.
romdroid. said:
Lol let them release ics first
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ICS has been out for weeks..
WillKennerley said:
ICS has been out for weeks..
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It's not in our phones though so its the same as "it isn't out".That regarding Europe.
When I see the fastboot-files for JB emerge, then I will believe it...
expect a waiting period of now to infinity
It took them 6 months to release ICS in the states... in Canada only 9... some people still waiting... I'll believe JB when I see it not even gonna bother hoping this gets officially released
Very soon to the carriers.. Then expect the carriers in the USA to take 9 months more...
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ICS has been out for weeks..
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Not in Europe
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"Before the end of the year" but what year? 2014 would be adequate to their attitude
Sent from that su*kin-fu*kin piece of sh*t with a locked bootloader...
I think they probably will release it this year, cause the leap from ics to jb is a small one, just a few changes. So they should release it in one month not three. But this is trying on their side to get customers back. They won't admit it but they lost a lot of customers with their attitude. But it is too little to late. Interest in their new phones is virtualy non existent. Nobody is getting exited and that is a sign of bad things to come for the company. They will try evrything now even maybe to unlock the bootloader, but nobody cares anymore...most of us are just waiting for contract to expire and to move on. RIP Motorola.
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ales100i said:
I think they probably will release it this year, cause the leap from ics to jb is a small one, just a few changes. So they should release it in one month not three. But this is trying on their side to get customers back. They won't admit it but they lost a lot of customers with their attitude. But it is too little to late. Interest in their new phones is virtualy non existent. Nobody is getting exited and that is a sign of bad things to come for the company. They will try evrything now even maybe to unlock the bootloader, but nobody cares anymore...most of us are just waiting for contract to expire and to move on. RIP Motorola.
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I partialy agree with you BUT:
"So they should release it in one month not three." - we will be happy if they release it in three months instead of 9....
"even maybe to unlock the bootloader" - I am affraid that they are to proud to do something like this...
"but nobody cares anymore" - in fact there are users who doesn't care about rooting, roms etc and from that point of view are the motorolas phones good choice as the hw is great...
"RIP Motorola." - right... Motorola lost nearly all their powerusers....
I think it will happen & you are going to see a complete swing shift now that the Google takeover is complete and they have started putting their personnel in charge, as well as the lay offs etc.
I know they originally said that they would let it run as a stand alone but I think the company is too big a worldwide name for them to let fail, they would lose too much face if they let that happen. You also have people that have now not lost their job, bricking it that it may still happen and looking to make names for themselves within the company and in that environment anything can happen.
Biggest thing for me is for another Operation Mosh should be ran right now and by everyone that possibly can, with the noises they are making about upgrades, changes that are being made in the company, new phones and bootloader unlock tools etc, I think the time for a push on this has never been better to try accomplish this goal.
Or worst case scenario, they will do what they did with 2.3.6 update to nonefigs when ics update was announced. They will dump it , because ICS was so close , just now they will do it with 4.0.4.
Just joking (hopefully )
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I just hope something leaks so the devs can get into it, because my wife was still running official 2.3.6 on her RAZR, nothing custom ever flashed on it and when the notification came through for the OTA ICS update Australia it just failed at instal everytime, i even took it out of cache folder and attempted manual installs all different ways and just kept failing... Upside was, my wife finally let me root and flash her phone so she now knows what she was missing out on lol.
So basically, going by past experience Moto would be better off sending there updates direct to the devs so it can be fixed and improved
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As the RAZRs begin to reach their EOL (end of life) product cycle (warranty finished, no more firmware updates, etc) why can't Motorola release an upgrade to unlock the bootloader for everyone.
I can't imagine the carriers would care and surely it would be a simple thing for them to do. They don't have to force this update on any users but simply make it optional for those that want it.
I upgraded to jb with the ota update and unfortunately lost root and to be honest have now lost interest in this phone. I was running AOKP V7 SP's version and it was running so well.
If Motorola techs happen to be reading this, then please consider it because at this stage I sure ain't interested in getting another Motorola and not because they are no good, far from it, it's because you restrict your users freedom with this phone. I will vote with my wallet and atm it won't be Motorola/Google.
Cheers, Teiva
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well, think about it:
It is good that you lost interest in this phone, maybe now you will buy a new one from them
Yeah true. Maybe the new X serious
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They already said it won't be Motorola because of this policy and same applies from me as well
Be interesting to see how all the new phones being released are with their bootloaders. I guess if I could pick up a RAZR HD or RAZR MAXX HD at a reasonable price I would consider getting one (even though they only come with 1GB system ram). My XT910 seems to run quite well with the OTA JB update. I do miss flashing roms though.
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I doubt that they will change this policy
Bun for us who didn't update to EU JB and still have root Is still fun due to kexec
It's a shame considering these phones are no longer premium and flashing Roms makes the world of difference to the experience on them.
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Jumped ship a few months ago to an N4 and not looking back. I loved my xt910, beautiful piece of hardware, too bad that Motorola kills it. Never again Motorola.
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So true. Motorola is losing customers because of lock bootloaders. I have heard so many people say never again to Motorola(in person & on forums). So if a unlocked bootloader keeps people interested especially at the EOL. I think it would be good for business.
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They are going to lose me for that very reason. All we ask is for the option to unlock our bootloaders. It's not something that everyone wants to do nor even knows about but that choice should be there for those that choose too.
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This same situation like milestone and other smartphones with lock bl from M. Owners dream of unlock bl when new models came out. But thats was never happend. The policy has never change. Sry for bad eng.
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I agree, if moto would just open their eyes to what their customers are saying they would have a Hugh support of long term customers. Moto has such great phones. To bad to see they are losing their loyal supporters.
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My XT910 when I bought it was an awesome phone. Better then the galaxy S2s being sold at the time.
I'm not sure the reasoning behind Motorola's reluctance to unlock the bootloader on what can now be considered an old phone but it sure is going to impact my future decisions.
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I think that Motorola wants to cut off from the "older" models and concentrate on models developed jointly with Google. You could see for a while like google too did not know which way to go with M. From what I know this phone x (or whatever he's called) is already unlocked bl (! Sic)
But do not despair, we already have good ports based on kexec and the issue of time is full of functionality. Thank you for the great developers from xda
Greetings from Poland, third-world country (according to Motorola)
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We will see, but as far as I remember there was unlockable bootloaders on some Motorola phones. I hope somehow we will manage to use our RAZRs to the max For Milestone there is still active development (great @nadlabak) so I hope @dhacker and @Hashcode won't abandon us
Still nagging about the bootloader? We have kexec and imo that is enough. We should instead be grateful for devs like hashcode and dhacker who makes this phone awesome.
I disagree, Motorola should thank these dev's for keep their products still awesome and users should donate to the dev's for their hard work.
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romdroid. said:
Still nagging about the bootloader? We have kexec and imo that is enough. We should instead be grateful for devs like hashcode and dhacker who makes this phone awesome.
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Do you need a rooted phone to run kexec? If so then kexec doesn't help those with XT910, JB OTA, and no root.
Does an unlocked bootloader make it easier to root your phone?
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teiva said:
Do you need a rooted phone to run kexec? If so then kexec doesn't help those with XT910, JB OTA, and no root.
Does an unlocked bootloader make it easier to root your phone?
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yes, you need rooted phone for kexec due to necessity of having a custom recovery to install if from
unlocked BL is not related to the root
I feel it's more of a carrier issue than Motorola, they're a company, they want money, referring to at least the US models, the carriers want locked bootloaders, they'll get them.
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