Hello,
I read. something on the net like this "Many who read this blog know what it is ODIN. For those who are unaware, ODIN is a tool with which we can install any operating system Android. Or more commonly known in the Android community, allows us to flash our device Android." From a website that I can't post here due to the rules.
My question is
1. doesn't Android it self an OS? (like symbian)
2. but if what stated above is true then what are those "any operating system Android"?
3. does it mean the like of froyo gingerbread honeycomb etc?
4. If it is, then doesn't it will be depends on smartphone compatibility? (like say P1000 SGT is only upgradable to gingerbread)
Sorry for asking so much, I searched but it makes it jumbled.
ChevanLemon said:
My question is
1. doesn't Android it self an OS? (like symbian)
2. but if what stated above is true then what are those "any operating system Android"?
3. does it mean the like of froyo gingerbread honeycomb etc?
4. If it is, then doesn't it will be depends on smartphone compatibility? (like say P1000 SGT is only upgradable to gingerbread)
Sorry for asking so much, I searched but it makes it jumbled.
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Yes android is an operating system, no they don't mean "any operating system" they mean any firmware rom and yes you need to install a rom designed for your device.
A firmware rom is a version of android that has been changed to work better on a particular device, for example to remove some system apps or add new features, so it will only run on the device it was made for for example a samsung galaxy s rom will not work on an optimus 3D.
Odin is software that writes the new rom over the original, replacing the old one with a new version.
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Yes android is an operating system, no they don't mean "any operating system" they mean any firmware rom and yes you need to install a rom designed for your device.
A firmware rom is a version of android that has been changed to work better on a particular device, for example to remove some system apps or add new features, so it will only run on the device it was made for for example a samsung galaxy s rom will not work on an optimus 3D.
Odin is software that writes the new rom over the original, replacing the old one with a new version.
Dave
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Ah I see that make things clear. so how do i get that rom? and when i replace with new rom, can I revert it to the original (I suppose it is possible with titanium back up or is it not?)
Ah also, so if I want to install a particular firmware rom then i will need to flash it correct? say since in this case is P1000, how do I get that rom? is there many kind of firmware rom for p1000, what are they? I google it but mostly come up with gingerbread 2.3
ChevanLemon said:
Ah I see that make things clear. so how do i get that rom? and when i replace with new rom, can I revert it to the original (I suppose it is possible with titanium back up or is it not?)
Ah also, so if I want to install a particular firmware rom then i will need to flash it correct? say since in this case is P1000, how do I get that rom? is there many kind of firmware rom for p1000, what are they? I google it but mostly come up with gingerbread 2.3
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Once you put a new rom on your phone anything you had on it before is replaced. To revert back you have to put a copy of your old rom on your phone which then would give you back what you had before.
You have to do this via a pc, titanium backup is for backing upp apps not the operating system itself and so it cannot backup a rom.
You need to visit the xda forum for your phone as there will be detailed guides and information there that are just for your phone. You will also find roms that will work on your phone there.
Don't flash a rom if your unsure or are happy with your phone as it is because unless you get the process right you can damage your phone.
Dave
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Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
If you realy want to delete touch wiz, you'll have to root your phone otherwise you can't get rid of touch wiz, however you can run a different launcher and having touch wiz on your phone.
Hi Viletung. In WebOS, it takes me about 30 seconds to root the phone.
Yet that retains all the phone settings unchanged, while allowing me to install packages, manipulate data, etc. Is it the same thing with SGS2?
I guess my question is: is it recommended to root the phone? I'm curious if most of Android users root their phone. I know I rooted my Palm Pre/Pre2 phones 5min after I got them. I read on the Internet that certain ROM's are built on stock Gingerbread (without TouchWiz), allowing the phone to save on battery and run much smoother with less used resources. Obviously, if you install a new ROM it will void the warranty.
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
Hello!
I've installed Lite'ning rom 1.5, which has root access. And to flash it takes about one minute!
When I got this phone, I knew it was possible to root my phone, but I was scared that I would screw something up and break the device.
Now, it's about one month after I got this phone and I must say after rooting the device, deleting some standard Samsung **** (Social Hubs etc..), my SGSII isn't draining battery as it used to do before I deleted some stuff. (Including TouchWiz)
But I have also a JIG, to reset the custom kernel counter, just incase I need my warranty back.
So my final conclusion is; I can't life without root! I like to edit the system icons (battery-, wifi icon and much more).
If you have any questions, I'll try to help you
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
Most dont root but most are not on XDA and dont know anything bar stock . I would guess most XDA users root .
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
To a certain extent its been a learning curve for the devs as SGS 2 is different to SGS1 .Expect even more development as the days go by .
jje
Thanks a lot guys for the info.
prodygee said:
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
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Thanks for the info. I want to have the latest version of Android, I don't really care about Gingerbread. How do updates work on Android (i.e. updating to Ice Cream Sandwich eventually)? On WebOS, updates are done automatically from your carrier or Palm/HP (if you had an unlocked phone like myself). Even if I rooted my phone, I would be able to update the phone firmware with a simple download and retain the rooted aspect of the phone.
About rooting, what did you used? I'm looking at Odin and SuperOneClick... is there something better/safer? One more time, thank you.
Official updates via Kies over PC only .
Rooting is usually lost on update .
Rooting via Chainfire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
jje
yqed said:
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock.
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Why don't you use it for a least a few seconds before ditching it, there's no aosp gingerbread anyway so you're stuck with it until cm7 comes along.
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
yqed said:
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's correct, and is one of the main reasons people root their Androids so that when a new version comes out we can download it straight away and don't have to wait for the carrier to officially release it, which usually takes a lot longer than it does for the devs here to put something together. E.g. there are a few ROMs already in the dev forum based on 2.3.4, but there is not yet any official update.
Thanks guys much appreciated. I will probably have more questions, once I have the phone on hand.
yqed said:
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android phones get new updates over the air when available, just like web os. Only Samsung does their own thing which is different on the sgs2 than on normal android devices. .
Which is, providing updates through an unnecessary software suite called KIES. You won't see an update available message on your phone.
yqed said:
Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
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Just install a launcher fromthe Android Store. There's plenty of good ones like LauncherPro, GX Launcher, 7 launcher. Their all relatively good and fully functional.
OK, I got the phone (16GB model) today from FutureShop and played with it a bit. It is a great phone indeed...
Phone Info (might be useful for devs)
Network: Bell Canada
Model: GT-I9100M
Android Version: 2.3.3
Baseband Version: I9100MUGKG2
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100MUGKG2-CL371789 [email protected] #2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.UGKG2
Now, on with the usual:
Bell bundled the phone with several crap apps like Self Serve, TeleNav GPS (how stupid is that on an Android), Remote PVR, etc.
I will follow your advice and use the phone for now as is, without any fancy stuff done to it (like a new ROM). I would like to get rid of the Bell proprietary apps (physical delete), let me know if is possible. I guess if the phone is rooted it should be easy, the trick is to know how to delete the apps from the phone.
Another question: How do I install the Samsung drivers, without installing the blotted KIES?
I looked for a clean package with SGS2 drivers only but I could not find anything... All I want is to go to Device Manager and point a directory.
I must admit that Android is a totally new experience, coming from WebOS. I'm pretty much lost, heh. I know I sound like a noob, so please forgive me if I ask some simple questions that I can get the answer with a search or just by reading the phone instructions (haven't had the time to read the documentation).
Hi all, noob here.
Am hoping I am posting in the right section. Apologies if not.
Ok... I am an expat living in Beijing and just bought an Atrix here. Trouble is, Chinese android phones have Android Market removed. I rooted the phone using gingerbreak and have managed to install one or two apk files. However, Android Market won't install. On top of that, many pre-installed apps such as the maps etc are in Chinese and moto navi gives me instructions in Chinese. Even the browsers often redirect to Chinese pages.
So I have two questions:
1) Is it possible to simply get rid of the Chinese OS (ROM? Firmware? Is that right?) and replace it with, say, a US or UK version?
2) If not, how can I get android market working?
Any ideas gratefully received!
Oh and the phone seems to be running android 2.2.2 which I believe is not the version run by non-Chinese Atrixes.
idk about all that but you i think you should def ask the people in your area . because im pretty sure most of us are in the us but maybe try to get a update for your market and just try to get a international rom ?
Thanks. Unfortunately I am also a noob in Chinese too so that's a bit tricky. The international rom thing sounds ideal but I don't know where to get it or how to install it.
evo5dave said:
Thanks. Unfortunately I am also a noob in Chinese too so that's a bit tricky. The international rom thing sounds ideal but I don't know where to get it or how to install it.
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read this post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600 maybe that will clear things up .
Thanks very much: that's a really helpful link! So if I install a stock Gingerbread ROM (my phone actually came with 2.2.2) does that ROM include all the preinstalled stuff such as Android Market etc? In other words, would doing so remove all the Chinese stuff from my phone and replace it with the standard stuff from whatever region the ROM is from? If so, that's what I think I need to do.
evo5dave said:
Thanks very much: that's a really helpful link! So if I install a stock Gingerbread ROM (my phone actually came with 2.2.2) does that ROM include all the preinstalled stuff such as Android Market etc? In other words, would doing so remove all the Chinese stuff from my phone and replace it with the standard stuff from whatever region the ROM is from? If so, that's what I think I need to do.
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Any stock ROM will have the Android Market.
And yes it will remove all of your stuff on your phone and replace it with a fresh install of whatever is on that stock ROM...
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Awesome. Thanks very much. Will try to get it done this weekend.
Hi all,
A few newbie queries, if anyone will indulge me please?
I've just got an S3 international verison, having had various Nexus's and HTCs in the past, which I've rooted & used custom roms on. I got this s3, rooted it, then started looking for roms, but i'm a bit lost. It's tricky when you're new to a model of phone and have to re-learn the root nuances.
One of the apps I need is ARLibertator (for pionieer's appradio) which doesn't play nice with any ASOP roms, so I presume I'm going to be stuck with stock.
So far, I've rooted, but haven't updated from mb5>mg4. I've backed up the factory state with a clockwork mod backup and i've done a dump of the EFS using K tool.
Can I update from mb5 > mg4 without any issue using KIES, or do I need to be careful about the change it makes to the EFS?
Also, if i decide not to bother trying to use ARLiberator, am I good to try Cyanogen or similar now, or have I missed any steps or done the wrong thing?
There are stock based custom roms .
Kies will remove root .
Thanks - when you say 'remove' - perfectly safe to re-root the same way again after the update?
Also, what terminology would I need to search for for Roms based on stock - something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797334
Thanks for the help - really appreciate it.
james03 said:
Thanks - when you say 'remove' - perfectly safe to re-root the same way again after the update?
Yes just reroot .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1566
Mostly Samsung based roms but not all of them
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Yep as jje linked "android development" is mainly samsung based roms where as aosp are mainly in "original android development" as they're original, not reworks if existing work.
There are some aosp roms in "android development" as they are unofficial cm builds for example.
Samsung rom threads usually have the samsung build number in the thread title, eg XXEMG4
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hello people,
i do not know anything about phones ..i am not savvy at all.
i just bought a galaxy s2 (sph-d-710) and want to WIPE AND DELETE everything and do a CLEAN install of a STOCK ROM of Android 4.2 or 4.3. (sorry for the CAPS, but it seems that in my last post people did not see the keyword STOCK.
~~(when I say "stock" ROM i mean just the basic factory operating system that would come with a device bought in the store)
i dont' care which one.
I don't need to restore or back up anything. i just want a stock ROM.
So where can I find an official stock ROM for this device?
I just want to do a clean install just like one would with a laptop...wiping the hard drive and installing a fresh copy of Windows.
I searched for days on google for this topic but it seems like everyone has to be cool and do a custom ROM and nobody knows anything about factory stock ROMs.
Please anyone know where to download an official stock ROM
thanks
dontknowanything928 said:
hello people,
i do not know anything about phones ..i am not savvy at all.
i just bought a galaxy s2 (sph-d-710) and want to WIPE AND DELETE everything and do a CLEAN install of a STOCK ROM of Android 4.2 or 4.3. (sorry for the CAPS, but it seems that in my last post people did not see the keyword STOCK.
~~(when I say "stock" ROM i mean just the basic factory operating system that would come with a device bought in the store)
i dont' care which one.
I don't need to restore or back up anything. i just want a stock ROM.
So where can I find an official stock ROM for this device?
I just want to do a clean install just like one would with a laptop...wiping the hard drive and installing a fresh copy of Windows.
I searched for days on google for this topic but it seems like everyone has to be cool and do a custom ROM and nobody knows anything about factory stock ROMs.
Please anyone know where to download an official stock ROM
thanks
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official samsung site
White_neXus007 said:
official samsung site
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Hello,
You can find some in sammobile.
Nadstaky
Hi,
Is there any way to install Android 4.4.4 without having to root my phone? Seems like every root I have tried have halfway broken camera, but I still want KitKat running on my phone.
Fyttikatta said:
Hi,
Is there any way to install Android 4.4.4 without having to root my phone? Seems like every root I have tried have halfway broken camera, but I still want KitKat running on my phone.
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No,you cant flash custom roms without root.
Rooting is pretty easy.Just search the forums and you will find one ! GL :good:
@Fyttikatta: here you find instruction and download for rooting. Before, flash the last firmware, also with Odin, and make a factory reset in recovery (to repair the camera item).
Yes, I'm familiar with rooting, but every ROM I have installed have not worked with Snapchat's record function as well as the camera requires rebooting like every 2nd time I open the app. It becomes quite frustrating, therefore I'm looking for a ROM with a "working" camera
If you want the hardware to work perfectly then you'll have to stick to either stock or stock based rom.
boomboomer said:
If you want the hardware to work perfectly then you'll have to stick to either stock or stock based rom.
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Well, if Samsung could get their sh|t together we wouldn't have had to root our phones.
The only time I've been able to send full length videos on Snapchat was with blekota's s5 rom ages ago. I'm on the latest archidroid right now and loving it, I mean the camera has crashed a couple of times and still video recording cuts out but I've learnt to live with it until I uninstall Snapchat which seems to only crash the camera for me
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Fyttikatta said:
Well, if Samsung could get their sh|t together we wouldn't have had to root our phones.
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Root is irrelevant to custom rom, they all come rooted. If you want kitkat with native hardware support then buy a newer phone.
boomboomer said:
Root is irrelevant to custom rom, they all come rooted. If you want kitkat with native hardware support then buy a newer phone.
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So basically what you are saying is that if you have a PC with Windows Vista, you should buy a new one to get Windows 7? At least with Samsung's flagship phones, the Galaxy S series, they should support for OS upgrades more than a year. Even the S4 have Lollipop, why shouln't the S3 have KK?
PC is totally different, no comparison could be made as Microsoft doesn't own or control the hardware. S3 is over three years old and doesn't have enough memory to run 4.4 stock, yes it could run it but Samsung decided not to bother writing a slimmer firmware.
boomboomer said:
PC is totally different, no comparison could be made as Microsoft doesn't own or control the hardware. S3 is over three years old and doesn't have enough memory to run 4.4 stock, yes it could run it but Samsung decided not to bother writing a slimmer firmware.
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That is still no excuse. KitKat was released only a year after the S3, and I have been running different versions of it on my S3 with better performance than with stock. Still they decided to give the S4 an overhaul with Lollipop two years after it's release.