[Q] Is this phone recommended? - Galaxy Ace S5830 General

My 20 year old cousin sister is looking for a Android phone and the ACE just about fits in an extended budget.
Is the phone good? Or are there any better alternatives at similar prices?
The internal memory at 158Mb seems too low, is this a problem?
Will she be able to run games like Angry Birds?
She needs a stable ROM and will not be messing up with the phone much. Which ROM / Kernel is recommended?

jesrani said:
My 20 year old cousin sister is looking for a Android phone and the ACE just about fits in an extended budget.
Is the phone good? Or are there any better alternatives at similar prices?
The internal memory at 158Mb seems too low, is this a problem?
Will she be able to run games like Angry Birds?
She needs a stable ROM and will not be messing up with the phone much. Which ROM / Kernel is recommended?
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Ya! Its a good phone! But RAM is low! Games like Angry birds will hang a bit! But overall its a good phone and u can move to cm7 to play angrybirds without any problems! Also lagfree is a must install for all ace users! U can check android development section for more info.
Press thanks if i helped you!
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Choose some other phone. This phone is outdated.

jinavs said:
Ya! Its a good phone! But RAM is low! Games like Angry birds will hang a bit! But overall its a good phone and u can move to cm7 to play angrybirds without any problems! Also lagfree is a must install for all ace users! U can check android development section for more info.
Press thanks if i helped you!
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If you know how to install ROM's and the necessary additions, 158 mb is not a problem. And this phone is damn good. Easy to flash ROMs and make the phone easily modified.
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ace_viknesh said:
If you know how to install ROM's and the necessary additions, 158 mb is not a problem. And this phone is damn good. Easy to flash ROMs and make the phone easily modified.
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The ICS Final or infinity speed ROM is definitely recommend. The kernel come with the ROMs.
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jesrani said:
My 20 year old cousin sister is looking for a Android phone and the ACE just about fits in an extended budget.
Is the phone good? Or are there any better alternatives at similar prices?
The internal memory at 158Mb seems too low, is this a problem?
Will she be able to run games like Angry Birds?
She needs a stable ROM and will not be messing up with the phone much. Which ROM / Kernel is recommended?
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Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman at almost same price in mumbai.. and worth of price as more ram + processor + 320MB storage + ICS + walkman quality.... so it would be worth that money...
if you like ace then you might want to wait for some time as ace plus is expected to be launched at 15k with some good improvements

since she wont be messing about with the phone much, maybe stock roms would be better(functions like swipe to call) try ICS stock by rushabh25 its in the development section

jesrani said:
My 20 year old cousin sister is looking for a Android phone and the ACE just about fits in an extended budget.
Is the phone good? Or are there any better alternatives at similar prices?
The internal memory at 158Mb seems too low, is this a problem?
Will she be able to run games like Angry Birds?
She needs a stable ROM and will not be messing up with the phone much. Which ROM / Kernel is recommended?
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I think you should get the Neo V.

Livewings said:
I think you should get the Neo V.
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:O you're here too , other than the R and Note forums
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.

This was my first Android phone so I really don't have vast experience, but I have learned to install CM7.2, many mods, hacks, etc and the phone is going like a champ, so it can take heavy modding and inexperienced users.
It is true that the limited internal memory is a problem, at least to me and it lags a bit playing games, even being OC'ed and optimized by scripts.
I do still recommend it, just make sure you install a lightweight launcher and try to keep the always running apps (facebook, twitter, whatsapp, etc) to the minimum those precious MBs of ram do hurt the performance, also disabling big, heavy widgets has shown improved performance.
Do not try to overclock over 902Mhz, I keep mine at 884Mhz though at 902 it was able to run normally throughout the day, but when playing games or doing CPU intensive tasks I do get hard resets.
I hope this helps you in making your mind.

Kasnar said:
This was my first Android phone so I really don't have vast experience, but I have learned to install CM7.2, many mods, hacks, etc and the phone is going like a champ, so it can take heavy modding and inexperienced users.
It is true that the limited internal memory is a problem, at least to me and it lags a bit playing games, even being OC'ed and optimized by scripts.
I do still recommend it, just make sure you install a lightweight launcher and try to keep the always running apps (facebook, twitter, whatsapp, etc) to the minimum those precious MBs of ram do hurt the performance, also disabling big, heavy widgets has shown improved performance.
Do not try to overclock over 902Mhz, I keep mine at 884Mhz though at 902 it was able to run normally throughout the day, but when playing games or doing CPU intensive tasks I do get hard resets.
I hope this helps you in making your mind.
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Soft resets
Hard resets wipe your data
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.

EmoBoiix3 said:
Soft resets
Hard resets wipe your data
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
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Thanks man, that is my PC overclocking background speaking, didn't know there was a difference in Android, still so much to learn

Related

I'm so tired...

I'm so tired...Since some months I'm looking for a rom with a good battery life and smooth, even in little games like fruit ninja or angry birds...But I havent' found nothing.
I had found some roms like perfectpeso, oxygen, dynamite rom, cyanogenmod, but due to something, I have always uninstalled them and flashed another rom and so on. Now I'm really tired of this, I want a rom which can satisfies me. So far I've tried:
-Perfectpeso: bad battery and some lags
-Oxygen: camera and microphone suck
-Dynamite: the last I've tried, it's a rom still young, so still buggy
-Cyanogenmod: too slow, I cannot even play fruit ninja smoothly
So what do I have to do? What do I have to flash to have good results?
I know ur feeling.....ive done the same......but i got the thing that stock rom is the most stable rom for ur phone.....and if u want to increase its performance......just change the kernel not the rom.......
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Techgod said:
I know ur feeling.....ive done the same......but i got the thing that stock rom is the most stable rom for ur phone.....and if u want to increase its performance......just change the kernel not the rom.......
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Now I think the same...
Probably this evening I'll use kdz
Il Giulione said:
I'm so tired...Since some months I'm looking for a rom with a good battery life and smooth, even in little games like fruit ninja or angry birds...But I havent' found nothing.
I had found some roms like perfectpeso, oxygen, dynamite rom, cyanogenmod, but due to something, I have always uninstalled them and flashed another rom and so on. Now I'm really tired of this, I want a rom which can satisfies me. So far I've tried:
-Perfectpeso: bad battery and some lags
-Oxygen: camera and microphone suck
-Dynamite: the last I've tried, it's a rom still young, so still buggy
-Cyanogenmod: too slow, I cannot even play fruit ninja smoothly
So what do I have to do? What do I have to flash to have good results?
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i will suggest u one of those bytecode rom omgb or omfgb...they can be ur permanent rom
Thanks to both you! Now I try to use stock rom (modded a bit) and when bytecode's rom will be bugless, I will try one of them
Thanks for the suggestion
I found Cyaongenmod with a custom Vsync of kernel to be the best Rom, as the battery lasts as long as Froyo used to run (LG gingerbread is what convinced me to Root, with its HORRIBLE battery life compared to froyo).
Cyanogenmod I find is preety battery efficient and smooth with the DJNoXD kernel (Vsync off), and I changed max_events in Build.prop to 160 and its very smooth scrolling now, and I find this tweak only works with Vsync of, as max_events is max frame rates for UI, and will always be limited to 60 frames with vsync on, as kernel > build.prop
deniso177 said:
I found Cyaongenmod with a custom Vsync of kernel to be the best Rom, as the battery lasts as long as Froyo used to run (LG gingerbread is what convinced me to Root, with its HORRIBLE battery life compared to froyo).
Cyanogenmod I find is preety battery efficient and smooth with the DJNoXD kernel (Vsync off), and I changed max_events in Build.prop to 160 and its very smooth scrolling now, and I find this tweak only works with Vsync of, as max_events is max frame rates for UI, and will always be limited to 60 frames with vsync on, as kernel > build.prop
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I've used cyanogenmod rc with roq kernel for about 3 weeks and battery wasn't so good as I had thought so I' ve uninstalled it
Belive me, stock rom is the best option. But not with default kernel. I have tried every rom for months and i realize that stock is the way to go. Maybe i will change to ics when all bugs wil be fixed if there will be a stable ics rom in the feature.
it´s sad...
but stock rom ist the best but it´s really NOT good...
all roms i tried have bugs... if you want a good phone with no (or almost no) bugs buy a google nexus or an iphone or a windows-phone
Same for me, but I'm waiting OMFBG last chance for me before I'm buy another smartphone sucks xperia neo v
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xdantex said:
Same for me, but I'm waiting OMFBG last chance for me before I'm buy another smartphone sucks xperia neo v
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go for galaxy ace + ....really best mid range phone
GTR by neko95 is good
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Man, have some faith. If you're not deving you can't complain about having a buggy phone guys.
Plus, if you looked through this here section, you'll find plenty of mods to make your phone faster.
Google TurboBoostv8.5 if you want a real speed increase for any 2.3.x rom. Also, overclock to a stable 480/729 or 480/748. Which I can almost gauruntee none of you are doing. You modded your phone, so look at tutorials, figure things out yourselves, it's a fun process Push your phone as far as it'll go.
scruffy3666 said:
Man, have some faith. If you're not deving you can't complain about having a buggy phone guys.
Plus, if you looked through this here section, you'll find plenty of mods to make your phone faster.
Google TurboBoostv8.5 if you want a real speed increase for any 2.3.x rom. Also, overclock to a stable 480/729 or 480/748. Which I can almost gauruntee none of you are doing. You modded your phone, so look at tutorials, figure things out yourselves, it's a fun process Push your phone as far as it'll go.
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Exactly android is all about exploring...so u have ur chance bro
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> a chance to brick a phone lol hahaha
stock rom v20i + franco #4 + v6 supercharger (512hp - ledded + nitro lag nullifier) + link2sd (ext3)
This question is being asked repeatedly.....
I'll say again..... go ahead with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25462553
Very stable, can play angry birds, fruit ninja just fine. Best of all its ICS goodness!!!!!

Which is the fastest ROM for RAY ?

I am looking for a best stock or custom rom for ray for daily using with some of productivity apps. SO guys, please tell me the fastest ROM for Ray and the instruction pls . Thanks
shemulweb said:
I am looking for a best stock or custom rom for ray for daily using with some of productivity apps. SO guys, please tell me the fastest ROM for Ray and the instruction pls . Thanks
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thread about this topic has been opened before
Best Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1912041
Post your BenchMark Scores For Xperia Ray
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1731643
there you found your answer
OptiMax is the best rom for Xperia Ray.
Co-Head of TDOT
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No rom can beat JB regarding smoothness. I tried both PAC and Cyanogen, both are great in that regard, but i think PAC is a bit better due to the presence of AOKP and a better camera.
I wouldnt recommend 4.0 custom rom, especially with Aroma installer. I'm gonna say it blunt, as i think it : all those are frankeinstein monsters built from parts badly put together, there is no graphical cohesion or harmony. Even the Sony stock roms now get elements from other phones, and overall, look really, really amateurish.
Kafka Datura said:
No rom can beat JB regarding smoothness. I tried both PAC and Cyanogen, both are great in that regard, but i think PAC is a bit better due to the presence of AOKP and a better camera.
I wouldnt recommend 4.0 custom rom, especially with Aroma installer. I'm gonna say it blunt, as i think it : all those are frankeinstein monsters built from parts badly put together, there is no graphical cohesion or harmony. Even the Sony stock roms now get elements from other phones, and overall, look really, really amateurish.
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I totally disagree. While the JB may be smooth without any apps installed and some tweaking, ICS allows you to run a plethora of apps like skype and facebook without becoming a lagging monster.
The majority of custom ICS roms out there are not pretty, but OptiMax 2, JellySandwich 7.4 are raising the bar. I also have really high hopes for Iced Bean 3.
For really smooth go for ForsakenGB rom 3! Also the best experience I have had gaming wise
Between Iced bean 2.1 and Optimax 2.0 ?
still jj hybrid for me.
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I would say superleggra v3. I try all roms and always end up using it. Superb battery life and smoothness. Iced bin is also nice except having some small problem.
Web_E said:
I would say superleggra v3. I try all roms and always end up using it. Superb battery life and smoothness. Iced bin is also nice except having some small problem.
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+1
I'm using this ROM too and must agree
xzeiP said:
I totally disagree. While the JB may be smooth without any apps installed and some tweaking, ICS allows you to run a plethora of apps like skype and facebook without becoming a lagging monster.
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Are you implying that 4.1 can become a lagging monster ? Because i never saw that with my eyes.
On the other hand, yeah, 4.0 is stable. Stable in sluggishy, but stable. Unless you have friends and many texts : then, you're screwed.
Kafka Datura said:
Are you implying that 4.1 can become a lagging monster ? Because i never saw that with my eyes.
On the other hand, yeah, 4.0 is stable. Stable in sluggishy, but stable. Unless you have friends and many texts : then, you're screwed.
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I am not implying, I am saying that it can become a lagging monster. I have experienced it myself. It only takes a few large apps to overload 4.1.
xzeiP said:
I am not implying, I am saying that it can become a lagging monster. I have experienced it myself. It only takes a few large apps to overload 4.1.
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Well. I have 140 apps on my phone. 40 of them are games. I use swap and link2sd to make space. I use my rom with those apps and without swap enabled when i paly a game like subway surfers. It runs smoothly and when i hit home i have my launcehr full of widgets. Then with subway surfer in memory i launch Nfs most wanted and i play it also with minimal lag. My mum texts me on whats app that moment so i realise whats app didnt get killed by those two games. So i can say i have superb multitasking in genereal on ics not saying only in my rom but my rom improowes things... i tryed fxp145 witch is their most stable relese. It was smooth. i agree but it was smooth until i installed my 140 apps. I enabled swap(on ics i told about i didnt used swap) so i enabled it cuz it wass laggy and apps were starting very slow. So i rebooted wit swap and launched subway surfers. It was smooth. I liked this. but after 1 min playing it started laging I pressed home. and i had no launcher. It was killed(god damn it this is suposed to be cm10) I realy disliked that. anyway then i ensured subway surf is in memory cached and i launched nfs most wanted. I started playign and it was lagging a lot then told my mum to whats app me. I receved it and nfs most wanted killed itself and it returned me to home automatically and again my launcher was killd. So is jb good - yes but not for our xperias. We dont have any drivers for it. So thats why.
xzeiP said:
I am not implying, I am saying that it can become a lagging monster. I have experienced it myself. It only takes a few large apps to overload 4.1.
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I was like "how much does it take, seriously ?", and then Mr Tapa made his post. 140 apps, are you godamn ****ing serious ?
Honestly, 140 is not much. It may seem for people who only knew smartphones with so little internal storage but believe once you enter the tablet or the more recent smartphones, 8 gb isn't even enough !
DannyBiker said:
Honestly, 140 is not much. It may seem for people who only knew smartphones with so little internal storage but believe once you enter the tablet or the more recent smartphones, 8 gb isn't even enough !
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Meh for me 32 gb sd card class 10 is slow and not enough space
DannyBiker said:
Honestly, 140 is not much. It may seem for people who only knew smartphones with so little internal storage but believe once you enter the tablet or the more recent smartphones, 8 gb isn't even enough !
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That would be thinking we have an endless need for apps and stuff only limited by storage. Sorry dude, but this isn't even remotely intelligent. 140 apps, not much ? I'm not even sure the uncompressible time of loading all of them can fit during a few days of a busy man.
Sorry to say guyz, but when you answer something like "4.1 can be a laggy monster", have the reflex to end up your sentence : "when i install my 140 applications, wich is not much", so that some readers can quickly detect they're just not talking about the damn same thing.
So, to me : i have 12 dowloaded applications, never saw 4.1 get laggy whatsoever. But i communicate a lot with texts, and as soon as i reach 30 of them on internal memory, all the 4.0 i've tested become increasingly sluggy, to a point where opening my contacts app takes up to 5 seconds.

[Q]Help me guys to buy desire x

Hey guys am using HTC one V,but am not satisfied with that so i have an idea to buy a new phone HTC Desire X.
i have checked in many websites about the phones's user comments.
Most of them are saying that they have some random reboot problem without rooted & hangs while sharing in bluetooth & produce much heat while browsing and all.
please suggest me shall i buy Desire X or not...
please help me guys:crying:
udhayababu said:
Hey guys am using HTC one V,but am not satisfied with that so i have an idea to buy a new phone HTC Desire X.
i have checked in many websites about the phones's user comments.
Most of them are saying that they have some random reboot problem without rooted & hangs while sharing in bluetooth & produce much heat while browsing and all.
please suggest me shall i buy Desire X or not...
please help me guys:crying:
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Nah... Just buy a One S or a Nexus 4
The Android Manual said:
Nah... Just buy a One S or a Nexus 4
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tanx bro:laugh:
Nothing wrong with the Desire X at all.
Mine works fine with ICS. I am waiting for the latest JB to come out bugless:fingers-crossed:
I just had a LCD screen issue that the suppliers fixed under warranty.
The phone does everything that it is supposed to do.
If you look after your phone, it will look after you.
ORA
ORA 1 said:
Nothing wrong with the Desire X at all.
Mine works fine with ICS. I am waiting for the latest JB to come out bugless:fingers-crossed:
I just had a LCD screen issue that the suppliers fixed under warranty.
The phone does everything that it is supposed to do.
If you look after your phone, it will look after you.
ORA
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Is the jb update is conformed?:laugh:
yes, look at name of threads or google
and beware, there are some grammar nazis who would eat you alive for last post
btw if you have enough funding, get some nexus device (as much as I like my dx, I had to say that)
I can tell you that I am very happy with my Desire X, when running on a custom rom it is incredibly fast, especially for this price.
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knielen said:
I can tell you that I am very happy with my Desire X, when running on a custom rom it is incredibly fast, especially for this price.
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exactly, best price/performance ratio I have ever seen in smartphone area, but still, it isnt flagship, never was intended to be, never will be. If you want good phone for good price, go for it, I can only recomend. If you want really high-end phone, or just bigger screen, there are other options, but not DX.
if you have a low budget then buy this phone... its not that big and super fast for games and others...
if you can afford a more expensive phone then buy something better
but just to know that devs started working a lot on this phone and it will become a lot faster
Am looking phone for gaming without lags
which is best for tat?
not much costlier
I would say go for Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini . It's got 1GB RAM , more internal storage and a better graphic chipset .
It's just a little more expensive .
One of my friends has it and it just feels alot more polished and smooth . The extra-RAM are no big deal though . I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM , but on S3M it lags less . I guess the graphic chipset helps alot .
Uizz.UW said:
I would say go for Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini . It's got 1GB RAM , more internal storage and a better graphic chipset .
It's just a little more expensive .
One of my friends has it and it just feels alot more polished and smooth . The extra-RAM are no big deal though . I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM , but on S3M it lags less . I guess the graphic chipset helps alot .
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"Free ram" is windows bull****, android has nothing to do with windows or the way how they works or handle ram, since its basicaly a linux distro...
mindlesSheep said:
"Free ram" is windows bull****, android has nothing to do with windows or the way how they works or handle ram, since its basicaly a linux distro...
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Ok, why dont you try and open as many apps until the ram is full. Then try to use your phone, see what happens.
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angel.grin said:
Ok, why dont you try and open as many apps until the ram is full. Then try to use your phone, see what happens.
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Free RAM = Wasted RAM. Full RAM = Awesome Multitasking.
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Stereo8 said:
Free RAM = Wasted RAM. Full RAM = Awesome Multitasking.
Sent from my awesome, stock, Nexus7!
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Nope do some tests before you say that. In windows when the ram is full or already used or the program needs more the program crashes then you have to close/exit it manually. In android the system closes apps automatically to free up more ram for the app that you are currently using. More free ram= less lag. Ever wonder why there are so many scripts for ram/memory managment if free ram is useless. Anyway no use convincing you. Hehe just sharing what i understand. Cheers
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The Android Manual said:
Nah... Just buy a One S or a Nexus 4
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The Nexus 4 is nice yes, but still not the best, it has many problems and features that didn't work right and some bugs which Google didn't fix for many updates....
If you have enough money, I would choose the new HTC One
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Nothing wrong with the Desire X at all.
The phone does everything that it is supposed to do.
If you look after your phone, it will look after you.
ORA
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Yes that's the point ^^ The Desire X is not the very best High-End phone, but it is still a very nice and great working phone with good performance
I love it <3
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udhayababu said:
Am looking phone for gaming without lags
which is best for tat?
not much costlier
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desire x is a good device dont bother looking for galaxy s3 mini its not released nor will it release in india.The nexus 4 if released at the US price point is an excellent buy else if from what i have heard @500$ seems kindof pricey.
Look at LAVA XOLO Q800,Micromax Canvas HD, Spice Titanium s1 ,and all the other local brands if you aren't so hung up about custom roms(I for one am).
If you are willing to wait for say a month or so there is Xperia L(Available for preorder) ,Optimus L9 And ofcourse there is Galaxy Grand.
EDIT: #zen-mode-ON
the desire X is the true choice of Needs and Wants it is actually everything that you need(yes gaming is also very good eg Dead Trigger). But then what exactly you want a 10 inch screen 16 core processor 1TB ram the demands are endless so you have gotta make a choice a balance between needs and wants.
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Nope do some tests before you say that. In windows when the ram is full or already used or the program needs more the program crashes then you have to close/exit it manually. In android the system closes apps automatically to free up more ram for the app that you are currently using. More free ram= less lag. Ever wonder why there are so many scripts for ram/memory managment if free ram is useless. Anyway no use convincing you. Hehe just sharing what i understand. Cheers
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I am not saying that every last piece of ram is used by cache, after phone reboot, you have plenty of free ram, until you start acctualy use apps and fill cache a bit, but linux is working with ram not unlike windows, you said that yourself. I never said memory management is useless, ofc it is usefull, a lot, my point was that claiming "I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM" has same value as "I had pancakes yesterday" ... I could have, while playing nova 3 much more free ram if I am after phone reboot (and plenty of other ways), I can have less free ram if I used plenty of apps before, it still wont change quality of gameplay, smoothness or anything (unless you really try to make it laggy with anything you have got, which is possible ofc).
quick edit: I am multitasker, I have never met any lag apart from starting apps and other "regular ones" android is handling this pretty good
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I am not saying that every last piece of ram is used by cache, after phone reboot, you have plenty of free ram, until you start acctualy use apps and fill cache a bit, but linux is working with ram not unlike windows, you said that yourself. I never said memory management is useless, ofc it is usefull, a lot, my point was that claiming "I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM" has same value as "I had pancakes yesterday" ... I could have, while playing nova 3 much more free ram if I am after phone reboot (and plenty of other ways), I can have less free ram if I used plenty of apps before, it still wont change quality of gameplay, smoothness or anything (unless you really try to make it laggy with anything you have got, which is possible ofc).
quick edit: I am multitasker, I have never met any lag apart from starting apps and other "regular ones" android is handling this pretty good
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ok got your point.i have a different experience so maybe we have different opinions. no point in debating. cheers
to the ts. i really dont like the cpu and gpu combo in the dx.. gpu not that good.. if it had a better gpu maybe i would buy this. go find a device with a good gpu from mid to high. this is just low end gpu. adreno 203 < sgx 531 based on my experience and benchmarks. so better find a cellphone with a good gpu that how i choose a new phone though.
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I am not saying that every last piece of ram is used by cache, after phone reboot, you have plenty of free ram, until you start acctualy use apps and fill cache a bit, but linux is working with ram not unlike windows, you said that yourself. I never said memory management is useless, ofc it is usefull, a lot, my point was that claiming "I can play NOVA 3 on my DX and still have about 100mb+ free RAM" has same value as "I had pancakes yesterday" ... I could have, while playing nova 3 much more free ram if I am after phone reboot (and plenty of other ways), I can have less free ram if I used plenty of apps before, it still wont change quality of gameplay, smoothness or anything (unless you really try to make it laggy with anything you have got, which is possible ofc).
quick edit: I am multitasker, I have never met any lag apart from starting apps and other "regular ones" android is handling this pretty good
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I didn't mean that having more free RAM is a bonus , I just wanted to point out that RAM is not something to take into consideration when gaming . Speciffically , that it's got more than enough for any high-end game . Having enough or more than enough are both better than NOT having enough at all .
Indeed I am a lot more familiar with Windows' way of dealing with RAM , however I've seen how Linux works as well , and even though you are right in saying that using more RAM grants you better multitasking , the way Android handles the RAM on the DX is far from perfect . From my experience , Samsung devices manage RAM A LOT better than any other brand I've tried so far (at least on low / middle end devices) . HTC doesn't do a bad job , but it's not to be praised either , at least not on the DX . Then again , look at an LG's RAM management and you'll most likely start crying xD !

Why so laggy?

First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
luci.tal said:
First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
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if you are rooted you can try to overclock your device, also install custom kernels with better governors. try a search on the forum, you will get a lot of custom kernels also find ways to overclock your device.
hope i helped.
Thank you for your answer.I am rooted and now i am using fusion 5.5 kernel clocked at 1 .2 with ondemand gov and deadline gov for RAM and ZRAM on Racing Bean ROM.It is better but it still laggs sometimes.The only apps i've installed are:Facebook with messenger,yahoo mail,CSR racing,whatsapp,twitter,es file explorer and titanium backupThanks again!
luci.tal said:
Thank you for your answer.I am rooted and now i am using fusion 5.5 kernel clocked at 1 .2 with ondemand gov and deadline gov for RAM and ZRAM on Racing Bean ROM.It is better but it still laggs sometimes.The only apps i've installed are:Facebook with messenger,yahoo mail,CSR racing,whatsapp,twitter,es file explorer and titanium backupThanks again!
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Delete Facebook or hibernate it with Greenify (search that app om play store).
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leajian said:
Delete Facebook or hibernate it with Greenify (search that app om play store).
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I've just installed Greenify and I will come back with a report.Thank you
Anyway our neo is not good for playing strong games. Buy a better phone or you'll burn your phone while overclocking.
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Try Jelly Bean ROMs with 3.4 kernel,in my experience it gives the best performance.
Jack Harper said:
Try Jelly Bean ROMs with 3.4 kernel,in my experience it gives the best performance.
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Performance is a subjective term..
It varies from person to person.
Well,games do lag on our phones beyond a point and I've seen every android device lag after sometime of use while doing heavy multitasking,etc
Android OS as such needs to undergo a lot of development .
Well,you do have to pay a price for the seamless customizing option it gives us..
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Anyway our neo is not good for playing strong games. Buy a better phone or you'll burn your phone while overclocking.
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I never overclocked it to 1.6 Ghz.My maximum was 1.4 Ghz.Anyway greenify is a great app.It works like a charm.It made my phone faster and i think this is the fastest it can do.I am still thinking what I want.If i want to buy a new phone or buy another thing.Oh i remembered,I moved to Xtream Bean.It's a great fast rom,and it is faster with the performance boost from Racing Bean.Thank you guys!
luci.tal said:
I never overclocked it to 1.6 Ghz.My maximum was 1.4 Ghz.Anyway greenify is a great app.It works like a charm.It made my phone faster and i think this is the fastest it can do.I am still thinking what I want.If i want to buy a new phone or buy another think.Oh i remembered,I moved to Xtream Bean.It's a great fast rom,and it is faster with the performance boost from Racing Bean.Thank you guys!
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Would recommend you to switch to Super Jelly Bean v5.o + Fusion v5.5 kernel.
And yes, avoid overclocking. I never do. And if you switch to any SJB or moAOKP v3, you'd get enormous amount of RAM that you need not overclock!
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luci.tal said:
First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
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Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
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Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
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Well said. :thumbup:
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Gingerbread is the best ROM for this phone!My phone(MT15i) running with 2.3.4 GB .60 ,with adreno booster v0.6 and OC at 1,2GHZ and I can say,This is the max. of the phone!
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Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
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I tried gingerbread.It works like a charm but I don't like it because many apps are not compatible with it.I am now using SJBX v5 and it is the best jb rom ever.
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I tried gingerbread.It works like a charm but I don't like it because many apps are not compatible with it.I am now using SJBX v5 and it is the best jb rom ever.
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Well yes, not all apps are compatible with it. Just think like your phone was a computer/PC.
You install windows xp which is themable and can become like windows 7 (i think transforming it to windows 8 would make it less efficient.)
So you have the lightets and most beautiful version of windows ever on your pc. But still windows xp can only use directx 9 and cant use internet explorer10 (but anyway who's using internet explorer nowadays.). Also a lot of software is not compatible with it.
So you install windows 7. Windows 7 will give you an amazing collection features,apps and such but they will perform slower compared to windows xp. (We are always talking about a computer with about 1,3~1.5Ghz proccesor)
So you must choose between these two: A lot of compatible apps and slow speed OR excellent performance with lower app compability. Well you choose. Gingerbread or ICS/JB. It is up to you and how you are going to use your phone.
Also with the lemon cake (if i rember correctly) version of android there is going to be a huge performance increase because it is going to support phone with ram of about 512MB which is what our phone has. And with a fully working kernel 3 Performance should be increased [email protected]!
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Well yes, not all apps are compatible with it. Just think like your phone was a computer/PC.
You install windows xp which is themable and can become like windows 7 (i think transforming it to windows 8 would make it less efficient.)
So you have the lightets and most beautiful version of windows ever on your pc. But still windows xp can only use directx 9 and cant use internet explorer10 (but anyway who's using internet explorer nowadays.). Also a lot of software is not compatible with it.
So you install windows 7. Windows 7 will give you an amazing collection features,apps and such but they will perform slower compared to windows xp. (We are always talking about a computer with about 1,3~1.5Ghz proccesor)
So you must choose between these two: A lot of compatible apps and slow speed OR excellent performance with lower app compability. Well you choose. Gingerbread or ICS/JB. It is up to you and how you are going to use your phone.
Also with the lemon cake (if i rember correctly) version of android there is going to be a huge performance increase because it is going to support phone with ram of about 512MB which is what our phone has. And with a fully working kernel 3 Performance should be increased [email protected]!
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You're right.Each one of us has to choose what it wants.I think I will wait for the Lemon Cake.Hasn't our phone only 384 MB of RAM?
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You're right.Each one of us has to choose what it wants.I think I will wait for the Lemon Cake.Hasn't our phone only 384 MB of RAM?
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actually it is 335 for gingerbread
340 for ics and
384 for jb *as you said
Well because of the fact that i am afraid of unlocking my bootloader (no money to fix/replace the phone from any damage caused) i cant tell you about custom kernels. But our phone has in general 512mb of ram. Generally some memory is taken by the kernel for some functions for example camera/gpu. Camera 720p has been removed from jelly bean so thats why it has more free ram.
That happens on every phone i guess.
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actually it is 335 for gingerbread
340 for ics and
384 for jb *as you said
Well because of the fact that i am afraid of unlocking my bootloader (no money to fix/replace the phone from any damage caused) i cant tell you about custom kernels. But our phone has in general 512mb of ram. Generally some memory is taken by the kernel for some functions for example camera/gpu. Camera 720p has been removed from jelly bean so thats why it has more free ram.
That happens on every phone i guess.
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Thx for explaining me.Now i understood.But why does the gingerbread work smoother than jb if it has less RAM available
Oh,and i have another question(about CSR Racing).When I am on stock gb or ics when i press to shift the gears it goes late(doesn't matter if i oc or not).I mean like 3 sec late.But when i am on a custom rom it changes the gear perfectly.Why is that happening?
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Thx for explaining me.Now i understood.But why does the gingerbread work smoother than jb if it has less RAM available
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Well it seems to be lighter and probably I guess more optimized. Ram doesnt matter for performance in this case. Gingerbead was made to work on devices with even lower ram thats why no problems excists. Also my guess is tha Jb can work on even less ram smooth enough. Ram in android is mostly occupied by cached processes which are "useless" for the Os to operate correctly.
Anyway about csr racing i know nothing ).

[Q] Thiking of getting an Xperia Sola for cheap. Worth it?

Ok so, as the title implies I'm thinking of getting an Xperia Sola on the cheapside (135€) almost brand new. However I do have a few questions:
1. Would you say the phone is worth the price?
2. Do you think it is a good phone?
3. I mostly use my phone for multitasking and gaming sometimes, so does it fit the bill? The 512RAM thing scares me, my Galaxy W said it had 512MB but it had like, 378MB.
4. How is custom rom development for the phone?
Cheers and thanks in advance
1. It's definitely worth its price, even when there is few cons.
2. More Yes than No, It has interesting design, a technology wich is available only for this phone only, called floating touch needs to be improved tho, but It's quite usable in browser. Built quality is not the best, could be better... after a while u will notice some squeaks and other noises it is fixable.
3. That's because there is usable RAM and non usable, can t really explain where the unusable goes, It has to function somewhere else in phone...available RAM is 368. It's enough if u stick with GB android version on ICS takes allmost 90% when no apps are working. Don t recommend to buy one if u are willing to update it to ICS... it would be a huge disaster!
4. I have seen some of the costum versions, for gaming as well, haven't tried yet, i am sticking with the stock one, for battery saving.
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Ok so, as the title implies I'm thinking of getting an Xperia Sola on the cheapside (135€) almost brand new. However I do have a few questions:
1. Would you say the phone is worth the price?
2. Do you think it is a good phone?
3. I mostly use my phone for multitasking and gaming sometimes, so does it fit the bill? The 512RAM thing scares me, my Galaxy W said it had 512MB but it had like, 378MB.
4. How is custom rom development for the phone?
Cheers and thanks in advance
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512MB phones are a big no no!
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myawan said:
512MB phones are a big no no!
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You can update to ics, its working flawlessly and even better im on jellybean for last month without hiccups. Nice phone good price...overall im satisfied. Dont listen about ics bugs, use custom kernel for better battery, performance is awesome. The mussing ram is allocated to gpu, mali eats quite a lot of ram.
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matood said:
You can update to ics, its working flawlessly and even better im on jellybean for last month without hiccups. Nice phone good price...overall im satisfied. Dont listen about ics bugs, use custom kernel for better battery, performance is awesome. The mussing ram is allocated to gpu, adreno eats quite a lot of ram.
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From where you took adreno?
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I gave this brick to my wife, i dont want to hear about this phone anymore - even sony left this phone.
Had HTC Desire X for a while which had arround 300 mb free RAM most of the time and a very good battery life. Now SGS3 and am very very happy.
not worth.
choose phone with 1gb>> ram for multitasking
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From where you took adreno?
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Sorry i ment mali...My bad.
Awesome phone minus a bit of more RAM
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1. It's definitely worth its price, even when there is few cons.
2. More Yes than No, It has interesting design, a technology wich is available only for this phone only, called floating touch needs to be improved tho, but It's quite usable in browser. Built quality is not the best, could be better... after a while u will notice some squeaks and other noises it is fixable.
3. That's because there is usable RAM and non usable, can t really explain where the unusable goes, It has to function somewhere else in phone...available RAM is 368. It's enough if u stick with GB android version on ICS takes allmost 90% when no apps are working. Don t recommend to buy one if u are willing to update it to ICS... it would be a huge disaster!
4. I have seen some of the costum versions, for gaming as well, haven't tried yet, i am sticking with the stock one, for battery saving.
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Its a decent phone and a real awesome one if u r planning for all those mods!! It Lacks a bit of RAM though! You See Actually all the series of P,S and U start going into a sort of lag after a few days before u have to do the cleaning

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