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Most of us are somewhat familiar with how apps2sd works on Froyo. It does not use a sd card partition like the ones we are used to. All system apps, apps you run widgets from, homelaunchers, etc need to be saved on internal memory (you don't have a choice with the system apps) to avoid errors when you reboot or connect via usb. Since the apps are physically located on the sd they become unmounted when the sd card is no longer mounted.
What I'm curious of is where the apps are saved on the sd? I imagine they would save to a hidden file. If this is the case, is it possible to manually move system apps with root explorer or adb commands from internal to the sd card? Obviously, you wouldn't want to move anything crucial to the boot or remount but apps such as e-mail and maps (memory hogs)?
I've noticed when moving apps to the sd from internal that only about half of the file size is actually moved. So does this mean my above question is impossible?
Does anyone REALLY understand how apps2sd works on Froyo?
Is it possible to install another apps2sd (one that allows an sd partition)?
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All you need to do to move apps manually to sd is from home go menu> settings> applications> manage applications, then you can select the app you want to move and select move to sd. This works for any app. If the "move to sd" button is grayed, make sure you check the box in "cyanogenmod settings" to allow moving any app to sd.
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I get an error moving system apps even with the Cynogen setting on. I'm on KaosFroyo v24. Which one are you on?
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joshw0000 said:
I get an error moving system apps even with the Cynogen setting on. I'm on KaosFroyo v24. Which one are you on?
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When using froyo apps2sd you cant have an EXT partition on your SD card also if that isnt the issue check the space on your SD card, also turn on both "save to" settings in Cyanogen Settings to external and also in the applications settings
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I get an error moving system apps even with the Cynogen setting on. I'm on KaosFroyo v24. Which one are you on?
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I too am on KaosFroyo and have no problems doing this. Not sure why it's not working for you but I hope ya figure it out!
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He's talking about System apps. What that specifically means I do not know, but I know trying to move say Facebook to the SD card gets an error message stating System updates cannot be installed on external media. All other apps (outside these system apps: Facebook, Maps, etc) can be moved without problem.
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He's talking about System apps. What that specifically means I do not know, but I know trying to move say Facebook to the SD card gets an error message stating System updates cannot be installed on external media. All other apps (outside these system apps: Facebook, Maps, etc) can be moved without problem.
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Oops, sorry... must have read too fast. I can't move them neither.
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He's talking about System apps. What that specifically means I do not know, but I know trying to move say Facebook to the SD card gets an error message stating System updates cannot be installed on external media. All other apps (outside these system apps: Facebook, Maps, etc) can be moved without problem.
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Thats what I meant. Thanks for clearing that up.
So I was thinking, maybe we can get around this. What if we delete the file for whatever system app (we'll say FB for this example) and re-download it from the market (or install from a file on your sd card). Would it still be a system app? Could we then save it to the sd?
I think I'm going to try it. I'll report success or failure.
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SUCCESS! Using root explorer, I moved the facebook files located in system/app and data/app to my sd card. I then used linda manager and installed facebook.apk. I opened the app and all seems well. I then went into manage applications in settings and moved it to the sd card.
I'm going to do some more testing and post a new thread for guys like me who can't have TOO MUCH free internal memory.
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in my gallery it shows images from my g+ account, but no others. is there a way to make it read from the sdcard?
3D gallery does read from SDcard by default, try moving it to /system/app and giving proper permissions.
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nevermind. it is reading from the sdcard. i didnt realize things downloaded from dropbox were finding there way onto the system instead of sdcard! is this right? i thought dropbox would automatically move files downloaded from the cloud to sdcard
jsp254 said:
nevermind. it is reading from the sdcard. i didnt realize things downloaded from dropbox were finding there way onto the system instead of sdcard! is this right? i thought dropbox would automatically move files downloaded from the cloud to sdcard
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Dropbox downloads go directly to the SDcard , it creates a folder named dropbox in the root of your sdcard.
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I agree, it should, but its not. I'm not near my device right now to tell you the exact path, but they are going to somewhere in /media in the root folder. I had to use root explorer to move an image from there to sdcard. I'll update this later with the path. I'm also going to look and see where the dropbox apk installed. I recently "8 restart" reset my device and ran the snowball mod root process. I may have geeked it up in the process. I may need to un-root and run the program fresh.
On a side note, I have never seen a device where so many people do the same thing and have so many different results. Even with snowball mod, I have some white on white menus. Such as adw ex settings menu and beautiful weather widget's settings menus.
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jsp254 said:
I agree, it should, but its not. I'm not near my device right now to tell you the exact path, but they are going to somewhere in /media in the root folder. I had to use root explorer to move an image from there to sdcard. I'll update this later with the path. I'm also going to look and see where the dropbox apk installed. I recently "8 restart" reset my device and ran the snowball mod root process. I may have geeked it up in the process. I may need to un-root and run the program fresh.
On a side note, I have never seen a device where so many people do the same thing and have so many different results. Even with snowball mod, I have some white on white menus. Such as adw ex settings menu and beautiful weather widget's settings menus.
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Oh that explain better you have snowballmod which it has 2 mods to use internal space so you need to find apps that can access all your media apart of your sdcard, quickpic gives you that option instead of gallery 3D.
Settings > browser > included folders
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jsp254 said:
in my gallery it shows images from my g+ account, but no others. is there a way to make it read from the sdcard?
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Im sure you got an answer to this already, I had this issue too, and my music wasn't showing in the music player either. I found a folder on my SDcard labled "my files" in this folder there are folders for pictures, music etc. I moved the pictures and music to the appropriate folders a BAM they all show up now.
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Ok, Seeing as how the first 10 pages and search yielded no results, I think I might be one of those special kids mentioned in the terms and agreements video.
I need to know where Astro installs the apks, because obviously it's not under system/app nor data/app. I've browsed both twice while revealing hidden files but they have not yielded any results. I can find every app on the phone but the ones that I've installed through Astro... So if anyone can shed some light as to where I might find them, that would be great.
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dont know if its similar but i have same problem with ics not being able to find apps that were unremovable (they just kept reinstalling) but noticed some apps were also in /preload (dont know if this helps your case or not)
Maybe /mnt/sdcard?
Check peferences in astro for home directory?
Other apps also in /data/app
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mnzt42yd said:
dont know if its similar but i have same problem with ics not being able to find apps that were unremovable (they just kept reinstalling) but noticed some apps were also in /preload (dont know if this helps your case or not)
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Thanks for the reply but it's not an unremovable app, just a few apks that I nicked off the internet. They show up under settings > applications and can be removed, but I just can not for the life of me find them on the system folders
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Maybe /mnt/sdcard?
Check peferences in astro for home directory?
Other apps also in /data/app
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Yeah, I've checked those, and all the home directories and usb directories and sd external directories, pretty much all of the directories listed in the preference for Astro with no success. Also, somehow, my /data/app folder only has the stock apps, nothing new that I've installed so far. Appreciate the reply though
Use your root file explorer to search your device, it will show up eventually.....
Edit: so no confusion, I mean the search function within the app
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Thanks for the reply but it's not an unremovable app, just a few apks that I nicked off the internet. They show up under settings > applications and can be removed, but I just can not for the life of me find them on the system folders
Yeah, I've checked those, and all the home directories and usb directories and sd external directories, pretty much all of the directories listed in the preference for Astro with no success. Also, somehow, my /data/app folder only has the stock apps, nothing new that I've installed so far. Appreciate the reply though
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If you have your phone set to install apps to external memory, there should be a folder called "android.secure". This is where the phone puts apps that are installed to the SD. (by default) Now I am assuming you have not formatted you SD to include a EXT 2/4 partition, or else you would know to look there. I would investigate to see if you can find an android.secure folder.
My niece is having issues with her Amaze 4G. The application memory is full (the 2Gb partition) is full, but after reviewing the list of apps in Manage Applications, there isn't 2 Gb's worth. All apps have the Move to SD button grayed out. I am unsure how to move items over to the other internal partition (10Gb). Please advise, and thank you.
any ideas??
some games have a big package that downloads with them and i dont think it shows in the apps size.
doesnt sound like you have a external sd so you should probly get one
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There is a 32gb sd card in the phone, and the 10 gb internal memory partition is empty. I've also put Apps2SD on the phone but it only recommended to move 4 apps, each of which were less than 1mb. In the Manage Apps list the largest app was Facebook at 50mb, with a series of others dropping in size quickly after that. It seems to me that the phone has been saving all app data to the 2gb parition but I can't see it in ES File Explorer to manage.
Also what common apps can typically be moved to the SD card?
Thanks!
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jcicora said:
There is a 32gb sd card in the phone, and the 10 gb internal memory partition is empty. I've also put Apps2SD on the phone but it only recommended to move 4 apps, each of which were less than 1mb. In the Manage Apps list the largest app was Facebook at 50mb, with a series of others dropping in size quickly after that. It seems to me that the phone has been saving all app data to the 2gb parition but I can't see it in ES File Explorer to manage.
Also what common apps can typically be moved to the SD card?
Thanks!
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50 mb for facebook is huge. try getting a cache cleaner and movetosd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm1vYmkuaW5mb2xpZmUuY2FjaGUiXQ..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5jdXJ2ZWZpc2guYXBwcy5tb3ZldG9zZCJd
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50 mb for facebook is huge. try getting a cache cleaner and movetosd
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Sorry forgot to mention that I installed ES Task Manager and cleared the cache for all the apps. The 50mb is all app & data. Is Move2SD different than Apps2SD?
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My fb is only 25
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Download superbox in Google play and from there can move files over easily to the SD. It will auto generate which files you can move.
Has a nice battery widget as well.
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I'm having the same issue with my Amaze, I don't have an SD Card yet, I can't up date my applications!
davidktk said:
I'm having the same issue with my Amaze, I don't have an SD Card yet, I can't up date my applications!
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I believe the problem you guy are having might be related to a full cache...use a file explorer to check /cache and see if there any files in there. If you see a bunch of apk's in there, that's your issue. You can delete them all no worries, but dont delete any folders
How do you use a file explorer? Thanks.
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How do you use a file explorer? Thanks.
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download es file explorer or astro
Downloaded that application and no apk files there it's getting annoying because I have a load of applications to update.
What I would do is move all the apps back to the phone and save any files that are needed/wanted to the pc. Then go and clear phones internal sd card. Then move everything back.
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Double0EK said:
What I would do is move all the apps back to the phone and save any files that are needed/wanted to the pc. Then go and clear phones internal sd card. Then move everything back.
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I don't have an sd card!
The phone comes with an INTERNAL sdcard. That's where moving applications to sdcard goes to.
Go to Settings> Applications > Manage Applications then go to each app and move it back to the phone if it gives that option. When you're done connect the phone to the pc and transfer any wanted files to the pc....this is called backing up your sdcard. When you're done with that then go to Settings > Storage and pick Erase Phone Storage. It will erase everything on the phones INTERNAL sdcard. That's why we backed everything up.
Now first thing you should do is move your apps back to the INTERNAL sdcard. So go to Settings > Storage >Make More Space and you can mass move any of the apps that you wish to move back to the phones INTERNAL sdcard. When that's done you can opt to move the files you saved on the pc back to the phones Internal sdcard.
You should also have your niece or her parents invest in an sdcard to put into the sdcard slot. So any pictures or music should be saved on that instead of using the phones internal sdcard. I would suggest a SanDisk 8gb or bigger with at least a Class 4 rating.
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I'm having the same issue. When I go to update apps from Google Play, I get an "Insufficient Storage Available" error.
Astro doens't show anything in /cache, but I have a feeling that's due to it not having global read access. The 2.5GB partition only has ~200MB free. I started with tons of apps installed, and I've had to start moving them off to SD or uninstalling to free up enough space to update the apps I really care about. The thing is, the size total for apps shown in the settings menu is constantly droping, but the total free space always ends up back around ~200MB. It's almost as if some app on the phone is filling up a cache or log file and isn't cleaning up after itself.
What folders in root comprise the 2.5GB partition? I'd like to see if I can determine where all the space is going. I've had an open ticket with HTC on this issue, and their solution is to factory reset. They're supposed to call me tomorrow night to work through this (I know how to factory reset, just want to hear what they say). I don't want to factory reset until I figure out why I'm running out of space as I figure I'll just end up in this same situation again.
It's very strange that many people are having this problem with the stock rom. Have you guys checked the available storage space by going in to the setting/storage? You should see 'Internal Storage' on the top. Do you have more than 50mb free? Theoretically, 50mb should be enough to update most apps through the Market (Play Store). Did you clear cache using the 'Make more space' option? What happened when you did it?
If you have enough space, yet cannot update apps, you probably have junk files sitting in some other partitions that are not included in 'available storage' calculations. If that's the case, then moving apps to sd card won't fix the problem. If your phone is rooted, it would be a lot easier to diagnose the issue and correct it. Without root, I can only think of one option; factory reset will probably fix the problem.
By the way, if you have to factory reset and loose the existing data anyway, you might want to use the opportunity to unlock the bootloder and root it at the same time.
I got two times the memory full message with Android 4.0 even there was enough space. After reboot it disappeared.
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oryan_dunn said:
I'm having the same issue. When I go to update apps from Google Play, I get an "Insufficient Storage Available" error.
Astro doens't show anything in /cache, but I have a feeling that's due to it not having global read access. The 2.5GB partition only has ~200MB free. I started with tons of apps installed, and I've had to start moving them off to SD or uninstalling to free up enough space to update the apps I really care about. The thing is, the size total for apps shown in the settings menu is constantly droping, but the total free space always ends up back around ~200MB. It's almost as if some app on the phone is filling up a cache or log file and isn't cleaning up after itself.
What folders in root comprise the 2.5GB partition? I'd like to see if I can determine where all the space is going. I've had an open ticket with HTC on this issue, and their solution is to factory reset. They're supposed to call me tomorrow night to work through this (I know how to factory reset, just want to hear what they say). I don't want to factory reset until I figure out why I'm running out of space as I figure I'll just end up in this same situation again.
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Without root, you won't be able to see much using Astro (or any file manager) because of the read restrictions on many directories. I believe you are correct about the system not cleaning up junk files. And unfortunately, they won't be accessible without root unless HTC included such an utility program to clean it in the stock rom. I doubt it, though, because their 'make space' process only gives you the option to clear cache and delete/move apps.
I know factory reset is not pleasant if you have lots of app data you want to keep. Time to root, maybe?
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I got two times the memory full message with Android 4.0 even there was enough space. After reboot it disappeared.
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One S? Are you in the wrong forum?
Anyway, what were you doing when you got the error message? Downloading something? ICS may have a better cleanup routine than GB built in so that rebooting would solve the problem... Or you haven't used your device long enough to accumulate junks.
I bought Galaxy SIII just 5 days ago and installed Omega v11 rom with SiyahKernel v1.4.I started installing apps to test my quad-core phone(Gangstar Rio,Asphalt 7,Modern Combat 3,Mass Effect Inflitrator etc..) ,when i noticed all the appdata were installed at the internal sd(mainly Android/data and Android/obb).I want to have that huge amount of data on my external and not interal sd.If move an app's data to external after it has downloaded them already,the app downloads them again.
If you do a search in the forum, it has been stated that you cannot run apps from your external sd card, with other android phones all you need is a app called app2sd, there are many for free in the play store.
I use gl to sd from the play store. Once moved you then news to open up the games from within the app or once in the app, select mount and hit the home button. Then open apps as normal. Its mainly for gameloft games (gl) but in settings there are also options to move data from the android / data folder as well as select your own custom folders.
There are a few others out there but this was my favourite.
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I use gl to sd from the play store. Once moved you then news to open up the games from within the app or once in the app, select mount and hit the home button. Then open apps as normal. Its mainly for gameloft games (gl) but in settings there are also options to move data from the android / data folder as well as select your own custom folders.
There are a few others out there but this was my favourite.
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It only works with games or apps that has the option to store additional data to ext. sd.
I think I heard about this in another thread.
Directory Bind. It will not move APKs themselves, but it will move the large data directories for games etc. that you're on about to the external card and correctly set up a bind mount so that it looks like the folder can be found on the internal card. If you use it, save yourself some time and enable the alternative database (something like that) option in its settings.
If you have root and partitioned sd card you have to instal link2sd. This will move the application to the second partition of the sd and creates a link to it. This will help the phone to recognize it as it would be installed on phone but really it would be on sd.
Like a shortcut in windows.
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kms108 said:
It only works with games or apps that has the option to store additional data to ext. sd.
I think I heard about this in another thread.
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It doesn't move the app to the external card, only the data which is what the OP is asking. The apps themselves are tiny compared to the data, eg 9mm which has data of 2gb. Worked perfect on my S2 and now S3. Moved close to 20gb of data to the external card.
Directory Bind is also good but it would remove settings for me after a reboot. Maybe I was doing something wrong.
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sxi200 said:
It doesn't move the app to the external card, only the data which is what the OP is asking. The apps themselves are tiny compared to the data, eg 9mm which has data of 2gb. Worked perfect on my S2 and now S3. Moved close to 20gb of data to the external card.
Directory Bind is also good but it would remove settings for me after a reboot. Maybe I was doing something wrong.
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you probably misunderstood me, when I say games and apps, i mean as a whole, whether its a game or application download from play store, and not as a individual.
This is also the case with app2sd, the actual program is still in the phone, while the data is in the ext.sd.
thank u for your answers!i will check both glstosd and directorybind and report back...just to clarify,i want to move the applications data,like android/data,android/obb,gameloft to external,not the application itself