Noob question here.. I did a quick search and couldn't find anything that immediately struck me as the answer to my questions, so forgive me if I missed already available information. (Though I did come across jivy's guide to theming, which I wouldn't have known about otherwise. Thank jeebus for search.)
That being said, I'm really interested in learning to create Samsung based ROMs, as I have too many problems with AOSP stuff (which is probably my fault, admittedly).
What is a good starting point? Are there any good tutorials or reference materials out there pertaining to our device in particular? I have both Windows and Linux machines, so that's not an issue as far as software needed to get the job done.
Thanks in advance, and an extra big thanks to the wonderful devs (jivy, shoman, gtg) that keep my device running like a beast!
Tuts like this helped me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272270
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Thanks! I'll definitely check that out!
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You can also check out the Chef Central for Android Forums. There should be a lot of useful info there.
Thanks going to take a look at those, shame by the time I learn ICS will be rolling around and I will have to probably relearn.
LiLChris06 said:
Thanks going to take a look at those, shame by the time I learn ICS will be rolling around and I will have to probably relearn.
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Most things you will learn will apply to ics ... What type of computer and operating system you have? I did a lot more before my desktop bit the dust on x10. been using a netbook and pretty sure i pushed it beyond its limits... It is dead now also. got a laptop in the mail with 4gigs and plan on updating to 8 to work with ics when it starts rolling out.
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Lots of good info, guys! Good thing I have the next couple days off work lol. Thanks again!
Main thing I'd say is - start learning the ins and outs of smali.
Warning: It is highly likely that doing this will result in an intensive urge to self-facestab.
Entropy512 said:
Main thing I'd say is - start learning the ins and outs of smali.
Warning: It is highly likely that doing this will result in an intensive urge to self-facestab.
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Just looked up HelloWorld.smali and went, "uhhhh". At least now I can say there's something I know less about than Obj-C. -_-
It's basically this bastard hybrid between Java and assembly language.
(Which makes sense, as it's created by decompiling Java bytecode.)
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I would like to start learning how to put roms together. I would like to start with developing a 2.2 rom compiled from galaxy s I900 source. Is there anyone here that can point me in the direction of a good tutorial on how to start? I have been using other peoples work for like a year and a half and would really like to create rather than use. I am a total noob when it comes to developing so any help would be great. thx
Go here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=613
Read a lot before you ask.
Good luck!
You can't develop a rom using only kernel source.
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Its not kernel only. I am not a total moron. It is the 2.2os downloaded from samsung for the galaxy s i9000
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Its not kernel only. I am not a total moron. It is the 2.2os downloaded from samsung for the galaxy s i9000
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All I have to say is good luck with that.
fallingup said:
All I have to say is good luck with that.
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In all seriousness do you stay apprised in any way shape or form of android related news our just enjoy smearing the forums with your illinformed ramblings and negativity? Speak of what you know and don't be so eager to dismiss anyone with the fortitude to increase their own knowledge base on an operating system such as this when its these people who we all depend on to better our experience with said operating system. As it is these people for whom google turns to when it comes to ideas on how to better their future stock releases. Thank you for the vote of confidence.
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You do realize fallingup has written more android code than your phone can hold?
The reason they seem testy is they(actual developers) have been spending all their free time trying to get Samsungs crappy code to compile, and every couple of hours some one asks for an easy how to guide for porting Froyo.
Spend some time reading the forums. Find out what is already being done, then learn the basics of rom development. THEN, ask intelligent questions on how help develop Froyo for our phones.
Asking for an easy way to cook roms is the equivalent of the kid in the back seat asking "are we there yet" every 30 seconds. If you really want to learn how to cook roms, try a couple easy ones with the kitchen I linked to, then learn how to work on roms without the kitchen. Then work on Froyo. There is no easy way.
I didn't ask for an easy how to thinking that I could have it done by tomorrow or even that I could figure it out at all. I simply asked for a starting point and stated in the OP that I am a know nothing when it comes to developing. As far as my last post I meant no disrespect to fallingup in fact it was my mistake to quote his post. I actually intended on quoting jt1134 so, to fallingup, I have used your stuff many times and have nothing but respect for what you do. I apologize for the misquote. I in no way think myself to be super genius to the 10th power nor do I believe that I can actually do anything worth while with this code. I'm just bored and want to learn. I'm also an Android addict.
P.S. Thank you for the link. Also you'll notice in my last post now that you know of my misquote, that I am actually 100% behind people like fallingup. I would never knowingly give a verbal bashing like that to him.(god I feel like **** now)
You meant to quote ME? Wow.
In all seriousness, and no disrespect intended, I'll explain a few things.
The code Samsung provides is NOT the full OS. Not even close. It's the kernel, plus a few android packages. In most cases, the android packages are EXACT copies of the code that has been available from Google for months, and in other cases has one line changes referencing a Makefile that doesn't exist. This is no way gets us any closer to a 2.2 rom other than the kernel. What we REALLY need is a working 2.2 ota build or leaked package to move forward any faster. That is MUCH more important than the garbage that Samsung has been releasing to us.
If you are a noob to development, then GOOD LUCK. If you are an advanced developer with intimate knowledge of android, then GOOD LUCK. There are quite a few of us working on aosp ports to the SGS phone series, and so far it has not been completed for a SINGLE device.
There are no guides that will explain exactly what is needed to accomplish this goal. There is no one who is going to hold anyone else's hands through it. Hacking is a meritocracy, meaning you'll get help with advanced topics when you show you have done your research, put effort into resolving the issue on your own, and ask intelligent and informed questions that give exact details of the situation.
If you would like to continue to show a poor attitude, then go for it on your own. Wait for us to release a working rom. If you would like to actually learn and invest some time in moving forward, the GO FOR IT, you are VERY WELCOME to do so. Read the porting guides written by google, try some stuff out, and come over to IRC and get your hack on.
I'm tired. I'm generally a nice guy, sorry!
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You meant to quote ME? Wow.
In all seriousness, and no disrespect intended, I'll explain a few things.
The code Samsung provides is NOT the full OS. Not even close. It's the kernel, plus a few android packages. In most cases, the android packages are EXACT copies of the code that has been available from Google for months, and in other cases has one line changes referencing a Makefile that doesn't exist. This is no way gets us any closer to a 2.2 rom other than the kernel. What we REALLY need is a working 2.2 ota build or leaked package to move forward any faster. That is MUCH more important than the garbage that Samsung has been releasing to us.
If you are a noob to development, then GOOD LUCK. If you are an advanced developer with intimate knowledge of android, then GOOD LUCK. There are quite a few of us working on aosp ports to the SGS phone series, and so far it has not been completed for a SINGLE device.
There are no guides that will explain exactly what is needed to accomplish this goal. There is no one who is going to hold anyone else's hands through it. Hacking is a meritocracy, meaning you'll get help with advanced topics when you show you have done your research, put effort into resolving the issue on your own, and ask intelligent and informed questions that give exact details of the situation.
If you would like to continue to show a poor attitude, then go for it on your own. Wait for us to release a working rom. If you would like to actually learn and invest some time in moving forward, the GO FOR IT, you are VERY WELCOME to do so. Read the porting guides written by google, try some stuff out, and come over to IRC and get your hack on.
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Now I have the right person quoted. Did you even read my post??? Let me repeat a key part so that you can understand and maybe you can stop battering the new guy.
"I didn't ask for an easy how to thinking that I could have it done by tomorrow or even that I could figure it out at all. I simply asked for a starting point and stated in the OP that I am a know nothing when it comes to developing."
I have admitted to my know nothingness. I simply want to learn. You could respond with something such as Galaxy S 2.2 is not a good place to start the learning process. Or you could have left it alone entirely and just thought that the link posted by "sgtmack" was sufficient enough. After all it did answer the exact question I asked. You might know a lot more about code and code writing than me but you have to admit, "your kind of an arrogant ass!" Now I would like to end this banter by allowing you to respond in whatever way you deem necessary. I myself will give this no further thought as I would like to move on now. That and I believe I have made myself look bad enough now.
As for fallingup and sgtmack, thanks for the hard work and helpful advice.
yutzyscott, do you not realize that jt and dirrk are the ones that got us the voodoo kernel? do you know they are the ones that got the kernel booting in the first place using samsung's ****ty source code? without jt, there would be nothing to build a rom around. wtf do you mean ill-informed when jt probably knows more than most people about developing for this phone? pay some ****ing respect for people that deserve it.
Yeah I do but, when this whole thing started I did not read who the post was by but, rather I just read the post. While I appreciate his work and am actually using it, my pride was hurt and its hard to interpret someones tone on a forum. I was under the impression in the beginning of all this that it would be known that I downloaded the 2.2 ota pushed to the original galaxy s and not the source they have been working with and making leaps and bounds with despite the road blocks. I was interested in learning how to port it (the ota I mean) rather than just sitting on my hands waiting to use anothers work. Chances are that I would never even come close to understanding what I was looking at but, I had to try. Now I'm sorry I asked. I quit...I was wrong, sorry! Leaving it to the experts. I'll go back to helping people with simple basic problems on droidforums.net and continue being an expert on using the real experts work.
This doesn't need to be turned into a flame thread. So here's my advice: join us on irc.freenode.net #samsung-fascinate and ask questions there. learn how to build a kernel, and maybe try to find out how exactly to port roms from other devices. Its a tough business, especially when we don't even get working kernel source from the manufacturer.
There are a ton of people that are working on the galaxy s phones, trying to get AOSP and the like on them. These phones are quite different than any other android phones, just with the way that the hardware / partitions are, so there is a lot to work through and document. Once one of the SGS phones is running aosp, im sure the others wont be too far behind. I wouldn't bother porting another crappy samsung rom, cause it will still have a lot of the crap that we are trying to get rid of by running aosp.
Thanks. And to jt, im sorry for being an argumentative ****. Thanks for all your hard work and despite the fact that there are many having issues with voodoo I am one of the many who it is working beautifully for.
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Thanks. And to jt, im sorry for being an argumentative ****. Thanks for all your hard work and despite the fact that there are many having issues with voodoo I am one of the many who it is working beautifully for.
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Hey no hard feelings man. This was the first thing I saw after waking up today so I got rubbed the wrong way. Apologies. Feel free to catch me on IRC and I'm always happy to answer any questions relating to compiling stuff for our phones
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Hey no hard feelings man. This was the first thing I saw after waking up today so I got rubbed the wrong way. Apologies. Feel free to catch me on IRC and I'm always happy to answer any questions relating to compiling stuff for our phones
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Me too. I was drunk last night and after three hours of sleep I started responding on this thread.
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yutzyscott said:
Me too. I was drunk last night and after three hours of sleep I started responding on this thread.
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Thats always a good excuse
this was an entertaining thread lol.. misunderstandings is one of the biggest downfalls of online conversation.
Not meant to be offensive. Just funny. http://www.geekologie.com/2010/10/a_day_in_the_life_of_internet.php
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Recently we have seen HD2 Android developers discontinue their builds LOL! Interesting to note that all are going to school? Its unfortunate that the Cooking on HD2 Android is kept much of a secret...what I suggest is if they are discontinuing then they should share their Cooking knowledge. Of course most of the pple aren't farmilia with Linux stuff lol! however I am sure that with a good tutorial and the tools you are using, pple will be good to go.
Not to hide words, I am calling out to Pongster, Shui8 and Darkstone to now share their knowledge for the good of the community.
Thank You.
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Recently we have seen HD2 Android developers discontinue their builds LOL! Interesting to note that all are going to school? Its unfortunate that the Cooking on HD2 Android is kept much of a secret...what I suggest is if they are discontinuing then they should share their Cooking knowledge. Of course most of the pple aren't farmilia with Linux stuff lol! however I am sure that with a good tutorial and the tools you are using, pple will be good to go.
Not to hide words, I am calling out to Pongster, Shui8 and Darkstone to now share their knowledge for the good of the community.
Thank You.
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I Agree
nothings hidden.. check htc-linux, freenode
I see what your getting at but I dont think its fair to say that anyone is "hiding" anything.......
All the information you need is out there but the problem is that doing something like this is realy quite difficult if you dont already have a good amount of knowledge on the subject.
Its one thing to learn from a tutorial but for something like this you would really need to start from scratch and the learning curve for a beginner taking on such a project would be very very steep.
You are right though, if more people took up these sort of projects then the world would be a better place
I just wish I had the time / mental capacity to do it myself.
Yeah, I see what you are saying. I guess one just has to step up to the game. Create the mental capacity and take the plunge into the deep. I guess the learning starts again then, but I just wish these guys put up something for the taking rather than just dropping off projects and run....
Hello, I currently own an SGH-i717 and would like to start rom developing for it and would like to know where to start. If I was a complete noob and compared to most of the people here I might be, how would I download 4.0.3 source code, use adb with my phone and etc etc. I find it all very interesting but I have no idea where to start.
I am asking for help with this specific device, then maybe onto porting for other devices but this model has a very sore lack of developers for it and since I own an ATT Note I would like to start the development for it regarding ICS and etc. Also why is there a lack of developers for this model's roms?
Thanks for any and all help regarding this issue and I am excited to get started developing for you guys!
I think you need something called android sdk
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KangKilla said:
Hello, I currently own an SGH-i717 and would like to start rom developing for it and would like to know where to start. If I was a complete noob and compared to most of the people here I might be, how would I download 4.0.3 source code, use adb with my phone and etc etc. I find it all very interesting but I have no idea where to start.
I am asking for help with this specific device, then maybe onto porting for other devices but this model has a very sore lack of developers for it and since I own an ATT Note I would like to start the development for it regarding ICS and etc. Also why is there a lack of developers for this model's roms?
Thanks for any and all help regarding this issue and I am excited to get started developing for you guys!
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google search, ever heard of it before? and there is no lack of devs here unless you consider quantity over quality to be better
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Underground_XI said:
google search, ever heard of it before? and there is no lack of devs here unless you consider quantity over quality to be better
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If that was the case, then why aren't there ice cream sandwich roms for att note?
and also, what do I search for? I'm very busy so I don't have time to mess with google all day. I need someone who is willing to work with me on educating a new developer, that maybe in turn had someone to learn from before them that appreciates a new (quality)developer.
To keep things simple here... Please refrain from jerky comments as I am trying to maintain progression in this area and again I am a very busy person so I would appreciate it if we kept this thread professional.
Thanks again for any help you care to give! I apologize for being a beginner, but everyone has to start somewhere... right?
kevinjgray88 said:
I think you need something called android sdk
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I already have the Android SDK, but I'm not sure how to use it for developing. I tried once and ended up frustrated with it. Are there easy to understand tutorials somewhere around here that might help a beginner?
I've managed to unbrick my captivate using ADB once but it was very foreign to me and I was kinda impressed I even pulled off sending it into download mode. Thanks for helping!
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So what do I win if I vote in the poll?
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Tell em what he's won Johnny!!! - A BRAND NEEW ICE CREAM SANDWICH!!!!! - ::And teh crowd goes wild!::
It's good to see someone with a lot of drive to develop, but the biggest hurdle isn't building AOSP from source. You need to get a working kernel that is compatible with ICS and all the Notes hardware. You can't google search how to do that. In reality it's almost impossible to do if you don't have extensive experience with that sort of thing.
We need the source code from Samsung for the Note and as far as I know, there is no source code out yet for the Note (for any version of Android). The roms you are seeing right now (two that Im aware of) are basically rigged versions of the stock rom where things have been removed (bloatware) and a few things have been added that conveniently worked out of the box without messing with code.
The real work will come when we have some source code to work with.
Ok, what's next?
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It's good to see someone with a lot of drive to develop, but the biggest hurdle isn't building AOSP from source. You need to get a working kernel that is compatible with ICS and all the Notes hardware. You can't google search how to do that. In reality it's almost impossible to do if you don't have extensive experience with that sort of thing.
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Okay well that's a start... does anyone know where I can find a stock version of ICS to study it's code and experiment? I found source codes for SGH-i717 here
opensource(dot)samsung(dot)com
(I need more posts to make that a link, lol)
I searched for i717 and it came up with four source results on samsung's opensource search bar but I don't know what the four results are for and what the difference between them all are(unless it means it is for att or tmobile or etc, etc.), if you can tell me any info on these then I would be greatly appreciative.
Yeah, I have no clue how to do most things with coding for android but I do understand how to flash correctly, root and all that jazz. I just lack the programming skills and work flow it takes to make all this. I am downloading java for dummies and learning how to use XML files, but I am wondering if there is something else I should study too?
It sucks that I came here starting from scratch basically but I have learned a lot from here in a short amount of time, I appreciate all of the developers who have made the roms I love along the way, I am just growing impatient with the far and few between updates for your devices and I want to see updates for our devices come faster and the only way to do that is to do something about it. So I am very grateful for any help I get regarding this.
Where can I start with the kernel search? Is that what everyone is waiting on to start developing ICS for this phone? Does anyone know if one exists?
Another Question
What's the difference between a kernel and a rom? Basically.. what the heck is it in lamen's terms?
KangKilla said:
What's the difference between a kernel and a rom? Basically.. what the heck is it in lamen's terms?
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This is a great place to start.
http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html
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This is not the place to learn how to develop, go to Android Development and Hacking forums and start studying.
I'm probably one of the many or maybe just a few who's been around here for several years taking advantage of everything the developers give us. I don't develop a thing and don't understand programming for **** but I do appreciate everyone one that does.
If it weren't for you guys making simple instructions and some one click programs wannabees like myself would be sol. Thanks for you your work.
I researched basic programming and must say it looks like a time consuming pain in the ass which makes it amazing that there's people in here that give us so many options. Much respect.
Thanks
Toast CHF
MikeyXDA
Dropzeroc/Team 420
Kushdeck
Chad.gooman
Jeffanace
Freeza
Platypus
Virus
Grueseome Wolf/Team Nocternal
Steal
Aamikam
Viper
Unknownforce
Vin255764
Vinchenzop
Leedroid
Anryl
Turge
And many more. If I've missed you it is unintentional and I apologize.
Without you my life would suck and I would be reduced to the technology known as the iPhone.
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Couldn't have said it better myself I completely agree!
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I'm not much of a ROM dev, but I am a app dev. It is very time consuming and you gotta have a passion for it. I am thankful for the devs here. I've donated money and helped devs when I could. Thanks to all the awesome devs. If any dev ever needs an extra programmer, I'm here to help if I can. I know Java, Android, and was a PhotoShop professional for 7+ years. I have one week of class left and I will be graduating with a degree in mobile application development... And it is all because of XDA that I quit my job as a newspaper photojournalist(7+years) to seek a career in programming.
Ken
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Like notasimpleway said it is all about having a passion. If you love what you are doing it is much easier and enjoyable. I started developing because I wanted to be able to make my own ROMs so I can add the features I want and not have to be dependent of another developer to get those features. I also like to help people and with XDA I am able to help people who share the same passion I have.
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I'm not much of a ROM dev, but I am a app dev. It is very time consuming and you gotta have a passion for it. I am thankful for the devs here. I've donated money and helped devs when I could. Thanks to all the awesome devs. If any dev ever needs an extra programmer, I'm here to help if I can. I know Java, Android, and was a PhotoShop professional for 7+ years. I have one week of class left and I will be graduating with a degree in mobile application development... And it is all because of XDA that I quit my job as a newspaper photojournalist(7+years) to seek a career in programming.
Ken
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dastin1015 said:
Like notasimpleway said it is all about having a passion. If you love what you are doing it is much easier and enjoyable. I started developing because I wanted to be able to make my own ROMs so I can add the features I want and not have to be dependent of another developer to get those features. I also like to help people and with XDA I am able to help people who share the same passion I have.
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Couldn't agree more with these, it takes a lot of patience and dedication to make things work the way you intend them to. Testing, Debugging, Bashing head against wall trying to figure out why one little thing doesn't work... it's all part of the fun. I just feel good that I can give something back to the community that gave me so much already. Classic XDA FTW.
+ 1 to the OP. Thank you all for everything you do! My phone and transformer prime would be boring as hell without you guys! It is very much appreciated!
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If I've helped you in any way... hit the "Thanks" button.
I am a developer :wack: I wish I had more interest in Android so I would do something with it lol.
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Couldn't agree more with these, it takes a lot of patience and dedication to make things work the way you intend them to. Testing, Debugging, Bashing head against wall trying to figure out why one little thing doesn't work... it's all part of the fun. I just feel good that I can give something back to the community that gave me so much already. Classic XDA FTW.
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Added you to list. You're insane man. I followed your thread on downgrading Hboot 1.5 and while I was lucky enough to not have 1.5 you would have saved me if I did. Thanks!
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When i flash stuff on my phone made by other devs and show people what i've changed, everyone goes "thats pretty sweet".
But then it actually upsets me that i actually really do enjoy all this and yet im studying subject that have nothing to do with computing (accounting, Economics ). Its too late to go back now and re-do A-levels and start computing, but i guess i just have to carry on what im doing, learning little by little everyday about android, coding e.t.c and maybe later on re-visit computing.
On a plus side, i have started reading through tutorials on internet to learn to code, i also tried to port a CDMA rom to GSM for myself to use (Failed), and was also thinking of making a basic app to see if i could actually do it! (Key word is thinking not actually doing)
And to think i've got so involved in all this, with a community that i managed to find after getting my trusty old desire, learning the basics on how to root and s-off. learning the basics of ADB. I'm very pleased with what i've learnt in 2 years yet i feel like i can learn much more and i will thanks to of course everyone here, especially the Devs and the people that write up long tutorials for people to learn from.
Maybe a few years down the line, ill release my own ROM or crack the Hboot of a device (Yeh dream on) But who knows
Thanks a million Developers
"Without you my life would suck and I would be reduced to the technology known as the iPhone."
very well said...
aerajan said:
I'm probably one of the many or maybe just a few who's been around here for several years taking advantage of everything the developers give us. I don't develop a thing and don't understand programming for **** but I do appreciate everyone one that does.
If it weren't for you guys making simple instructions and some one click programs wannabees like myself would be sol. Thanks for you your work.
I researched basic programming and must say it looks like a time consuming pain in the ass which makes it amazing that there's people in here that give us so many options. Much respect.
Thanks
Toast CHF
MikeyXDA
Dropzeroc/Team 420
Kushdeck
Chad.gooman
Jeffanace
Freeza
Platypus
Virus
Grueseome Wolf/Team Nocternal
Steal
Aamikam
Viper
Unknownforce
And many more. If I've missed you it is unintentional and I apologize.
Without you my life would suck and I would be reduced to the technology known as the iPhone.
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I wish one day I can make people happy like these guys have made me. One person I think you should add is vin255764. Been using a lot of his work since I first rooted.
Agreed.
Thanks to all devs.
Also, developing apps,roms and stuff is very interesting actually, once u try it ur deep into it...
Old age of programming where it had lack of visual and u were just typing all the ugly code manually then trying to run it for months is over. Now it's very interesting, like narcotic, once u tried it and understood something, you will get addicted..
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I wish one day I can make people happy like these guys have made me. One person I think you should add is vin255764. Been using a lot of his work since I first rooted.
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A few years of getting into development can get you a long way. Sure, it wont help on getting ICS to our 3Ds quicker, but it could help you in getting LTE on AOSP working on your Holographic Evo LTE++. Or you could get to work on that one app you always wished existed.
I'd recommend starting out with C/C++. Learn Java AFTER C++. I'm not sure where you could get started as I learned most of my stuff from classes, but a few textbooks/online tutorials sound like a good starting point.
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A few years of getting into development can get you a long way. Sure, it wont help on getting ICS to our 3Ds quicker, but it could help you in getting LTE on AOSP working on your Holographic Evo LTE++. Or you could get to work on that one app you always wished existed.
I'd recommend starting out with C/C++. Learn Java AFTER C++. I'm not sure where you could get started as I learned most of my stuff from classes, but a few textbooks/online tutorials sound like a good starting point.
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Too add onto this. You can also follow my tutorials in my signature to learn how to compile source code for AOSP or CM. It will get you familiar with using a command line as well as teach you about how Android comes together if you read some of the files and try working out errors along the way as you compile the source.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
thenewboston.org is a good place to start
Thank you for adding me to the list of developers. I really appreciate it, even though I consider myself more a MODder or hardcore tinkererererer lol.
The true developers are that of the TeamWin, Revolutionary, AOKP, CyanogenMOD, and MIUI teams. Brilliant minds at work here!
Amen fella!
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freeza said:
The true developers are that of the TeamWin, Revolutionary, AOKP, CyanogenMOD, and MIUI teams. Brilliant minds at work here!
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I agree with freeza here.
I started doing my own mods, themes and roms because, as dastin said, it gets tough having to rely on someone else to make what *you* or how *you* want it to look. Half the fun and a great learning technique is, finding an awesome mod, whether from another ROM, or even from a different device, and reverse engineering it.
That's how I got my start with finding the passion for developing. Sure, tutorials are great, but they offer little info about how or why changing 'this' makes it do 'that'.
Any aspiring developers/modders...the best advice I can offer is to learn from other peoples triumphs, by ripping it to shreds and seeing/figuring out how it works. It will give you a sense of satisfaction, but also provide building blocks for your own personal 'dev'ing' endeavors
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A few years of getting into development can get you a long way. Sure, it wont help on getting ICS to our 3Ds quicker, but it could help you in getting LTE on AOSP working on your Holographic Evo LTE++. Or you could get to work on that one app you always wished existed.
I'd recommend starting out with C/C++. Learn Java AFTER C++. I'm not sure where you could get started as I learned most of my stuff from classes, but a few textbooks/online tutorials sound like a good starting point.
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I agree. Learn C++ first and Java is so much easier to learn.
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Just had to say hello and a MASSIVE thanks to everyone here. In particular all the guys and or girls who contribute to AndroWook.
I tried to post a thanks in the 2.31 thread in development but as I am classed as a noob I am not permitted to. (I'll go back and click the thanks buttons).
Until today my TF201 was resigned to it's little case, with only the hope of occasional outings when I wanted to occupy and get some down time from my little man. (the joys of being a parent).
I'm no stranger to unlocking, jailbreaking, modding etc, but became tired of manufacturers dropping updates and support for "older" devices. Maybe I got too lazy to research properly. I migrated from iOS and Android to the Win platform, until today! Thanks to xda-dev and the priceless resources and info I have read in the past 6 hours. I now have a revitalized TP TF201 that is going to get used on a daily basis.
So all I need to do now is:
1. Find a new way to distract the boy when he is getting restless.
2. Blow off the cobwebs and get back into the groove of Unix and Linux.
3. Give some valid and useful input back here.
And last but by no means least......
:good::good::good::good::good::good::good:
c4tatonic said:
Just had to say hello and a MASSIVE thanks to everyone here. In particular all the guys and or girls who contribute to AndroWook.
I tried to post a thanks in the 2.31 thread in development but as I am classed as a noob I am not permitted to. (I'll go back and click the thanks buttons).
Until today my TF201 was resigned to it's little case, with only the hope of occasional outings when I wanted to occupy and get some down time from my little man. (the joys of being a parent).
I'm no stranger to unlocking, jailbreaking, modding etc, but became tired of manufacturers dropping updates and support for "older" devices. Maybe I got too lazy to research properly. I migrated from iOS and Android to the Win platform, until today! Thanks to xda-dev and the priceless resources and info I have read in the past 6 hours. I now have a revitalized TP TF201 that is going to get used on a daily basis.
So all I need to do now is:
1. Find a new way to distract the boy when he is getting restless.
2. Blow off the cobwebs and get back into the groove of Unix and Linux.
3. Give some valid and useful input back here.
And last but by no means least......
:good::good::good::good::good::good::good:
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You're welcome :good:
Since I am in the same position as c4tatonic, I also like to say that I DO appreciate the work of the people who use their spare time to code ROMs for left-behind devices.
Although some of these may do this just because they can and because it is more interesting than painting by numbers.
Thank you for your effort. No, I haven't decided which ROM to use, but PAC seems to be the one for me. Nightly or Stable? Hrmhrm.
(Didn't want to open another thread for this)
yea really nice to see that some developers still support this device and do a better job in managing the performance issues of this tablet tha asus..... i keep my tf201 till it dies; it does everything i want for a tablet!
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