The reason I DON'T have an Android phone yet is because of a failing in Android navigation on a website that is important to me. Let me describe the situation.
A website that I frequent returns a display with a scrollbar on the far right side. Within the same display is a smaller "box" that also has a scrollbar. For those of you who are "show me" types, go to tvguide.com, click on "What's on TV", put in a zipcode, cable, pick a cable provider, select "all premium channels" (or whatever) then Go. The resulting "small box" is the one with the individual channel listings on it. Tell me what's on channel 45.
How do I navigate within the smaller box? If you touch the screen and move your finger "down" the big display moves down. I want the small display to move down.
The iPad, on the same website, has the same problem. But I accidentally discovered that if I touch the screen inside the small box with TWO FINGERS, spread a little apart, (like I am going to zoom in or zoom out), but keep the fingers exactly the same distance apart, and move BOTH of them down or up at one time, the small display moves up and down, while the big display stays the same.
Does that make sense? I have tried the two-finger method on TMo's newest Android phone, but can't get the bottom of the small box. TMobile says "tap the small screen first" but all that does on either of the two websites is "select" that line/television show.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
TonyMo
Is the site optimized for mobile devices?
Try doing a double tap in the small box. That's what I do in situations like this. It usually works.
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I would suggest trying a different browser. I know you may not have that option (since you don't own and Android device? Guessing you're borrowing?) but I use Dolphin HD and it works flawlessly. When I open the page you mention (tvguide.com) the scroll inside and outside the smaller widow work independently. This on a device running Android 2.3
No, neither website is (apparently) mobile-friendly. Then again, I'm not a fan of mobile-direct websites. They usually lack the content that I am looking for. Not a fan of "apps" because I don't want to have to have an app for every website I visit. I want a mobile browser that does whatever an immobile browser does! I want it all. And I want it now!
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I've been working on picture viewer for the HTC Touch that has a little more of an intuitional feel(kinda like the iphone tho mine has some major differences) You can use the touch screen for everything including changing pictures, panning, and zooming in or out. Right now 2 mega-pixel images take about a second to load(used to take 4-5!)
Here's how to control it:
To use gesture mode check "Gesture Mode" in options menu, to use double-click mode uncheck "Gesture Mode."
Gesture Mode:
Sweep your thumb to the left to move to the next picture
Sweep your thumb to the right to move to the previous picture
(for sweeping, start with your thumb/finger off the phone, otherwise it'll mistake it for the panning gesture)
Press on the picture and then move to pan
Double-press to change to full screen.
Double-Click Mode:
double press to switch between panning and switching pictures/zooming.
move picture with finger in panning mode
zoom by moving finger up/down in non-panning mode
switch pictures by moving finger left/right in non-panning mode
Reply if you have any questions
(If this helped you and you feel compelled, you can donate here)
Update 3/3/08 6:49 PM PST:
Eesh, so for those of you who downloaded that last update earlier today, I'm sorry. I found a couple rather nasty bugs that made the program nigh on unusable after I left the house. Fortunately I've managed to fix those and it's looking pretty stable. You can also now zoom in unlimitedly(almost). Basically it'll let you zoom in until your phone runs out of memory to handle a picture of that size. Don't worry, it won't crash or anything, it just won't go any bigger(you'll kinda see it seem to bounce back to being its original size). Let me know about any problems you find. On a side note, I actually was able to make it crash by trying over and over again to push the picture past the boundary the phone could handle. It should work perfectly for normal use, just don't go trying to make it break, or it will.
Update 3/3/08 10:13 PM PST:
Big day today updates wise, and this one is a BIG update. First, I fixed the problem of the background not covering all of the screen in landscape mode. What? That's not a big enough update? Ok, I'll throw in the ability to rotate pictures too . There is now a button in the bottom-right corner(should be out of the way enough I think) that will rotate the picture 90 degrees counter-clockwise. There is one slight problem with the rotation, it works kinda strangly with my new zooming algorithm and if you zoom in too much and then try to rotate it will crash the program. Simply put, just don't zoom in very far and then rotate it and it should be fine. Oh, and for those worried about speed, it rotates in a fraction of a second(don't know exactly how long but it feels instantaneous).
Sounds great!
I tried it but i'll get an error related to "Internal.Get.File.Directorynames".
Maybe because the name of my storage card isn't "Storage card" but "Opslagkaart" (dutch version).
Greets
Kevin
ya, that explains it... I need to fix that, I'll get on that now
Sounds COOL i'm in for testing ENGLISH rom here
OK now i understand what you mean by you just started working on it today lol so no need to talk about bugs yet hein
I really LOVE the double-click to exist maybe you can find another gesture for zoom in/out for example
Cheers
How did you get the TouchFLO to respond to gestures? I was looking into using some gestures is a test application, but I havent found anything yet
Heh, actually I didnt, I just set capture to true and created my own gestures(really, really simple ones) to handle it. I would have no idea how to utilize touch-flo for this
Man, you are the one.
i´m along time waiting for this stuff, men very very god.
Thanks, i´m rigth now testing your app.
work on this and make a realy god application for the ppc world .
Ok, here's an updated version, now it initializes to the root directory and lets you choose whichever folder you want to load pictures from. The pictures still load fairly slow but they are a little better. Also, pressing on the bottom menu activates it, so basically you double press on the menu/quit icons. However, you have to actually choose one of the options to get back to being able to move the picture again (annoying, I know but I'm trying to figure out a way around that.) Also of note: you press the names of the directories you want to open twice to go into them. Clicking accept will choose the directory you're currently looking at. I think you'll see what I mean. It's actually fairly intuitional when you're doing it. 2 MP pictures take about 4-5 seconds to load. Again, if any1 knows a faster way to load in the pictures than using the Bitmap constructor, please let me know. Finally, none of the menu items are actually implemented, so clicking on them right now just makes it so you can move the picture again.
good work
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Hello,
Justo 2 remarks, your program have a lot of potential of improvements.
But for now, just 2 important functions. if is possible for you to improve.
1. 1 browser like resco picture viewer, just to chose 1 picture to start.
2. that browser need to be finger scroll friendly, just like the touch rom.
scroll and chose the picture that you like to see, pic the picture and see just one or scroll just like your application do right now, because now you must scroll to all the picture just to see 1 that is im the midle.
sorry for my ingles, but i´m also working on that
great job for you my friend, congratulations and good work.
Ok here are some comments on the updated version
1. The swiping "feels" a little better but it still "hangs" on the border a bit
2. The picture still "looks" stretched on the screen
3. when you exist and re-enter the program the image location is not "remembered"
4. it would be nicer if we can have a tree view of the folders to select from
5. when u reach the last (or first picture) we shld somehow be notified that it is the last picture OR loop again from the start
I really LOVE the concept of this program can't wait to see it done
@ArcticCat, it does actually loop again to the first picture when you get to the end. What were you experiencing? If it crashed it's probably a memory issue. That goes along with my problem of opening the bitmaps, as does the hanging on the edge of the screen. Anyway, let me know, I can only try this on mine right now.
go on nice work.
a browser with pictures and landscape is the nest steps, in my opinion.
i`m just talking abaut resco viewer because is the program for me that actualy load a browser withy pictures very quikly, is very, very fast.
i dont now the working process used but...is just 1 ex. that is possible, and very fast with 7 mpixel fotos..
but i love your program and for me is now the 1 one for see fotos
must have 1 directory by defaut on open.
maube 1 option to browse with your app or use to browse the defaut one in WM just to see the pictures and when picture start.
go on and thanks a lot man...very...very..very and fast work.
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@ArcticCat, it does actually loop again to the first picture when you get to the end. What were you experiencing? If it crashed it's probably a memory issue. That goes along with my problem of opening the bitmaps, as does the hanging on the edge of the screen. Anyway, let me know, I can only try this on mine right now.
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I'm sorry I just noticed it does loop!
can't wait to see the next upgrade
Aweome app with great potential !!
You will be the talk on xda for a few days to come !!
Cheers buddy !!
any1 know where the app that rotates the screen is? I tried looking up how to do it within a program but it looks too daunting so I think I want to just launch that app but I can't find it. Let me know
Update time! This time I added that feature request for being able to choose a picture from the middle using a list of the pictures, you'll find the option under the menu under "Choose Picture." Also, I added full screen capability, just double press on the screen(yes, it replaced quit) and you'll get a little more room. That extra room would be completely unneeded were it not for my final update and the biggest of all. You can now resize the picture by sliding your finger up or down the screen. Up increases the size and down decreases it. Theres a wait period when you resize because it reloads the picture at the correct resolution. Have fun!
*Note:* due to the added memory needs of the choose picture screen, the app will probably crash if you try to load a picture from it unless you have the ROM with the expanded memory. I'll get to work now on another version where this isn't necissary but you won't get the choose picture feature. Still need a way to load in a 2MP image at a lower resolution without loading the entire thing into memory.
[email protected] said:
Update time! This time I added that feature request for being able to choose a picture from the middle using a list of the pictures, you'll find the option under the menu under "Choose Picture." Also, I added full screen capability, just double press on the screen(yes, it replaced quit) and you'll get a little more room. That extra room would be completely unneeded were it not for my final update and the biggest of all. You can now resize the picture by sliding your finger up or down the screen. Up increases the size and down decreases it. Theres a wait period when you resize because it reloads the picture at the correct resolution. Have fun!
*Note:* due to the added memory needs of the choose picture screen, the app will probably crash if you try to load a picture from it unless you have the ROM with the expanded memory. I'll get to work now on another version where this isn't necissary but you won't get the choose picture feature. Still need a way to load in a 2MP image at a lower resolution without loading the entire thing into memory.
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A quick note before testing it
I think it is about time you start with
1. introducing version number for each release much easier to track which version we have installed
2. a history log
sorry for being picky
I'm back
1. Pictures in portrait mode are still loaded as landscape so they are stretched and distorted
2. picture folder is still not remembered
3. Maybe an option to start in the "choose picture" mode would be useful
4. I LOVE THE ZOOM in/out man it is really GREAT : IF possible you can make that the part that is being zoomed to is actually where the "click" occurred
5. Now that we can ZOOM basic finger movements like (UP/DOWN/RIGHT/LEFT) should become part of PANNING across the picture no? maybe
a. double click to go back to "fit in view" size
b. changing pictures would only work in "fit in view" when zoomed in RIGHT/LEFT would Pan across the picture
c. to Zoom in out would become one quick click followed by another and then UP/DOWN
just speculating
keep it out please
Marcus,
hello again,
these becames my favorite tread on xda, and another one calls "TouchNav" is also cooll, but is far away from the final yet.
my comments are exactely the same as the last posted by ArticCat.
awsome program man, go on, you have a lot of talent.
1.another thing, just to help, the resco picture viewer do the load of 100 picture in the browser (to chose the start picture), in 1 second, it´s incredible the speed.
sorry but i dont know how it possible, but is just one example.
Maybe you change the defaut wm browser by the resco one, but if you do that, you stay dependtly from resco application confused: )
2.the landscape option not work
3. the options not work
4 we need a icon for this application, yes this app as grow and now is a serious one, she want a icon
Thanks and good work
I'm going out of town tomorrow morning and won't have my computer with me so there won't be any new updates till I get back. However, I will continue to watch this thread(using my touch hehehe) and can respond to any questions you guys have(or any ideas!) I'm not sure when I'll get back but it'll be definately by sunday.
hello, my friend recently purchased the tilt, so naturally I had to commandeer (typo) it. his today screen has a nice button in the top right corner (where the 'x' button is normally located) to access a small menu full of the apps that are running. and the normal list of options are there: end, endall and whatnot.
I was simply wondering if someone is in possession of this plugin.
also, though not AS desired. the tilt apperently is able to have text messaging displayed on his today screen.
You mean HTC X-button? Search for it and be happy
pBar is much more powerfull and better than HTC X-button. Don't know the exact homepage of pbar but you can download it from here. (free registration required)
Regards,
Carty..
Also check out Wktask. One of my favorites.
I use the HTC X-Button..They all seem to work about the same.
junglei said:
hello, my friend recently purchased the tilt, so naturally I had to commandeer (typo) it. his today screen has a nice button in the top right corner (where the 'x' button is normally located) to access a small menu full of the apps that are running. and the normal list of options are there: end, endall and whatnot.
I was simply wondering if someone is in possession of this plugin.
also, though not AS desired. the tilt apperently is able to have text messaging displayed on his today screen.
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Yes, the tilt uses X-button, as does the touch and all future planned HTC buttons. You can find it all over this forum as well as others.
As many users here have already mentioned, there are actually many better options (X-button only shows you that info on the home screen, whereas wktask or my personal favorite- Qmenu, lets u view all your running programs whenever you want. These alternatives also generally use less resources).
As far as the SMS on the today screen... I don't get it, doesn't your titan do this? Whenver I get an SMS, the notification menu pops up on the bottom of the today screen (or any screen really) and shows me all 160 characters of the text message.
QuickMenu_en_2.7
works well for me
I've been using my HOX+ for almost six months now, fairly light use but I'm mostly happy with it. I'm still running unrooted stock, just installed the official 4.2.2 update. This is my first real smartphone, I had an unsubsidized $100 3.14" Android smartphone last year that I don't think really qualifies.
The big complaint I have with the jump to a 4.7" screen is that one-handed use is uncomfortable and requires me to stretch to reach the corners, where the buttons are often stupidly located, or sometimes even to slide the phone up and down in my hand to make the buttons accessible, not exactly easy to do with one hand without dropping the phone. I would really like a phone that is comfortable to use one-handed, but I don't want to compromise by buying a smaller screen phone, say 4.3" or god forbid the 4" size of the iPhone, as I'm not exactly thrilled with the "looking through a keyhole" quality of 4.7" either.
I think the right solution would be a thumbwheel UI in the bottom right corner, placed in the arc right where my thumb is, so I can use it one-handed with my thumb and not have to reach with my fingers. As long as it let me virtually hit all the buttons on the screen, even native app buttons like the menu button at the top or the tab switcher button at the top in Chrome, I could even buy a phablet if there was something like this, maybe a 5.5+ inch screen that I could use comfortably one-handed with just my thumb in the bottom-right corner.
The closest thing I've been able to find like this is the Splay launcher, but I don't think such launchers actually let me control menus within apps, only launch apps. This guy wrote a small app earlier this year to do something similar, seems to be a great article talking about the idea but I don't think that effort went anywhere.
Is there any effort within the xda community to integrate a one-handed control interface like this? This is a feature that would actually make me root and install a ROM, as I haven't had the need to go to the trouble yet. I'd love to see an effort like this on Android, wonder what everyone else thinks.
joakim_one said:
I've been using my HOX+ for almost six months now, fairly light use but I'm mostly happy with it. I'm still running unrooted stock, just installed the official 4.2.2 update. This is my first real smartphone, I had an unsubsidized $100 3.14" Android smartphone last year that I don't think really qualifies.
The big complaint I have with the jump to a 4.7" screen is that one-handed use is uncomfortable and requires me to stretch to reach the corners, where the buttons are often stupidly located, or sometimes even to slide the phone up and down in my hand to make the buttons accessible, not exactly easy to do with one hand without dropping the phone. I would really like a phone that is comfortable to use one-handed, but I don't want to compromise by buying a smaller screen phone, say 4.3" or god forbid the 4" size of the iPhone, as I'm not exactly thrilled with the "looking through a keyhole" quality of 4.7" either.
I think the right solution would be a thumbwheel UI in the bottom right corner, placed in the arc right where my thumb is, so I can use it one-handed with my thumb and not have to reach with my fingers. As long as it let me virtually hit all the buttons on the screen, even native app buttons like the menu button at the top or the tab switcher button at the top in Chrome, I could even buy a phablet if there was something like this, maybe a 5.5+ inch screen that I could use comfortably one-handed with just my thumb in the bottom-right corner.
The closest thing I've been able to find like this is the Splay launcher, but I don't think such launchers actually let me control menus within apps, only launch apps. This guy wrote a small app earlier this year to do something similar, seems to be a great article talking about the idea but I don't think that effort went anywhere.
Is there any effort within the xda community to integrate a one-handed control interface like this? This is a feature that would actually make me root and install a ROM, as I haven't had the need to go to the trouble yet. I'd love to see an effort like this on Android, wonder what everyone else thinks.
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A "Whole" UI made especially for one hand usage? Well I know the second best solution.
Install "Pie Controls" and assign it to any corner/side of the screen, it will allow you to launch apps but for the function that you want, you will need to root. Once you are rooted PIE has extra features like "Back, Home, Sleep, Menu, Recent Apps" ..etc.
A Second best is "LMT" launcher ALSO requires root. Once you have it, you will be able to have PIE Controls as well, PLUS a unique feature to have gestures working in all screens. You can swipe down to bring up the notification bar or swipe up for recent apps. The reason i put it as second best was because I don't really like it ..
Ofcourse there are normal launchers , like nova launcher ..etc. that allows you to swipe down to bring up the notifications but sadly that only works on the home screen.
There are also ROMS like AOKP (For us Carbon rom or something similar) which has a stock feeling but extra buttons in the Power menu. When you hold down the power menu , under the normal "Power off, restart, screenshot, airplane" you will also find "Back, Home, Recent apps"
I honestly think that PIE Controls is the best app to have out of them all since it works on all ROMs . Though for full features you should buy the Pro version.
P.S: All apps that you are looking for will require ROOT access.
Ghand0ur said:
A "Whole" UI made especially for one hand usage? Well I know the second best solution.
Install "Pie Controls" and assign it to any corner/side of the screen, it will allow you to launch apps but for the function that you want, you will need to root. Once you are rooted PIE has extra features like "Back, Home, Sleep, Menu, Recent Apps" ..etc.
A Second best is "LMT" launcher ALSO requires root. Once you have it, you will be able to have PIE Controls as well, PLUS a unique feature to have gestures working in all screens. You can swipe down to bring up the notification bar or swipe up for recent apps. The reason i put it as second best was because I don't really like it ..
Ofcourse there are normal launchers , like nova launcher ..etc. that allows you to swipe down to bring up the notifications but sadly that only works on the home screen.
There are also ROMS like AOKP (For us Carbon rom or something similar) which has a stock feeling but extra buttons in the Power menu. When you hold down the power menu , under the normal "Power off, restart, screenshot, airplane" you will also find "Back, Home, Recent apps"
I honestly think that PIE Controls is the best app to have out of them all since it works on all ROMs . Though for full features you should buy the Pro version.
P.S: All apps that you are looking for will require ROOT access.
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Thanks for all the info. I tried the Pie Control app by coolace based on your recommendation, but it didn't seem to do anything on my unrooted HOX+. I'll look into the other stuff you talked about.
joakim_one said:
Thanks for all the info. I tried the Pie Control app by coolace based on your recommendation, but it didn't seem to do anything on my unrooted HOX+. I'll look into the other stuff you talked about.
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How didn't it function?
Well here is a good video that will help you install it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBud1hk27Rw
Although to have full features you will require to BUY the pro version and root, the free version on an unrooted version should have some functions that will work like launching apps and other stuff. Try to clarify what you meant
Ghand0ur said:
How didn't it function?
Well here is a good video that will help you install it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBud1hk27Rw
Although to have full features you will require to BUY the pro version and root, the free version on an unrooted version should have some functions that will work like launching apps and other stuff. Try to clarify what you meant
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I installed the app and set it to work on the left, right, and bottom, then configured two short-click apps in level 1. I would then long-press at those edges and nothing happened with pie control: HTC Sense would send me to widget configuration instead.
I just watched your video and he does a slight swipe from the edge, instead of the long-press I was trying. I just installed the app again and tried that on the home screen and within a couple other apps, again no pie controls. If I do it on the home screen, it starts to scroll to the next home screen, as it always did.
There may be something about HTC Sense that it's not giving control to the pie app for gestures, or maybe there's some other switch I have to hit somewhere to actually enable the pie gestures?
joakim_one said:
I installed the app and set it to work on the left, right, and bottom, then configured two short-click apps in level 1. I would then long-press at those edges and nothing happened with pie control: HTC Sense would send me to widget configuration instead.
I just watched your video and he does a slight swipe from the edge, instead of the long-press I was trying. I just installed the app again and tried that on the home screen and within a couple other apps, again no pie controls. If I do it on the home screen, it starts to scroll to the next home screen, as it always did.
There may be something about HTC Sense that it's not giving control to the pie app for gestures, or maybe there's some other switch I have to hit somewhere to actually enable the pie gestures?
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Oh yeah I forgot to tell you. Although HOX+ and S3 have the same screen size, for the PIE to activate you just need to increase the activation area width. Just thought of installing Pie again after a while of not using it and just remembered. Now it's working fine
I remember there was a small bug of the activation area width being reset everytime you open the app if I can remember correctly. That or everytime you press on the activation width area. Can't really remember but my point is, while using the app if it suddenly doesnt appear anymore just increase the width again and it will work.
Sorry it took me a while to reply since I couldn't really remember
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Ghand0ur said:
Oh yeah I forgot to tell you. Although HOX+ and S3 have the same screen size, for the PIE to activate you just need to increase the activation area width. Just thought of installing Pie again after a while of not using it and just remembered. Now it's working fine
I remember there was a small bug of the activation area width being reset everytime you open the app if I can remember correctly. That or everytime you press on the activation width area. Can't really remember but my point is, while using the app if it suddenly doesnt appear anymore just increase the width again and it will work.
Sorry it took me a while to reply since I couldn't really remember
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Thanks, now it shows up. I'll mess around with it and let you know what I think.
Hi,
This is a thing that has annoyed me with Android from the start, but after a lot of searching, I have not found a way to disable or stop the behavior.
So my problem is that with all versions of Android and all the web browsers for Android I have tried, web pages always zoom in when you select a text entry field on a web page.
So for example on my Note 3 and Nexus 7 I go to, say theregister.co.uk. The phone /tab is in landscape mode and the page is set to a zoom where all the article titles are legible. There is a search field at the top right hand corner of the web page which is also a a legible size. I select it to enter text and the screen is zoomed in so that the field fills the whole of the screen, that is not filled by the keyboard.
If any of the text I start to enter brings up any suggestions, due to the zoom level, they are lost behind the soft keyboard. I zoom out to look at them and they dis-pear. I select the text field again to add or delete text, to make those suggestions come up again and I get zoomed in to far again. I then give up put the phone or tablet down and use a windows laptop etc instead.
Now I understand why this would have been desirable initially in Android, when phones had small screens and on ones with small screens today, but why is this needed on larger screens or even tablets?
It makes things like posting this forum post very frustrating on an Android device. I know there is an App for XDA, but is is not a powerful as using the forum direct through a web page. So I cannot replace having a windows etc PC around as Android does not give comparable web page interaction experience.
So I wanted to know if anyone knew of a way of disabling this behavior if so desired? Or if there is a browser out there where this does not happen?
hi folks,
i'm interested to find out whether it's only me or if more people have asked themselves why google put the hamburger menu to the upper left corner of the screen. i mean considering the fact that displays get larger and larger and the fact that in many apps that spot is, will and has to be used every other moment while using an app, IMHO it is the worst possible placing for the so called "hamburger menu" at lest we can to try out what might be the reasons for google to make their choice, because even if we don't like something, it's easier if we know the reasons, at least if thei're valid
the goal would be, of course only if there will be many who agree and feel bothered, to brake loose a discussion and finally bring this topic to
the attention of a larger community and to google in the process.
thanks for any participation, opinions, proposals etc.
my favourite spot would be lower right corner but should this by design not be a good choice, i can see no reason what could make the upper right corner not a better alternative than the current choice.
below you find 4 sample images to illustrate what i mean and what i find preferable. self evidently the examples for the preferred spots are not "hamburgers"
In use:
N7000 TouchWizz_4.1.2
N7100 CM11_CMKernel_Xposed
I9100_Black CM11 CMKernel Xposed
I9100_White CM11_CMKernel_Xposed
Nexus 4 Cataclysm_Franco_Dalvik_Bionic
Nexus 5 32GB Black CM11_ElementalX_Xposed
One+ 1 64GB Black CM11_Boeffla-Kernel_Xposed
http://philosophy.net.magnamentis.com/quintessenz/en-quintessence-r-1.htm
magnamentis said:
hi folks,
i'm interested to find out whether it's only me or if more people have asked themselves why google put the hamburger menu to the upper left corner of the screen. i mean considering the fact that displays get larger and larger and the fact that in many apps that spot is, will and has to be used every other moment while using an app, IMHO it is the worst possible placing for the so called "hamburger menu" at lest we can to try out what might be the reasons for google to make their choice, because even if we don't like something, it's easier if we know the reasons, at least if thei're valid
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Maybe you already know or are not interested anymore but here's my thoughts.
They must have a good reason to do so. I also don't like a button on top because display size and if using one hand its hard to reach. But when that menu can be opened by sliding which seems to the case more often then its better. Althoough not all apps might want sliding enabled because other reasons. The placement on top has probably also to do with that the bottom area is a more interactive space for other interactions to happen with thumb or not... Or because now only a title bar on top is needed and no bar below which saves space and looks more simple (most likely). Why left or right? I don't know but also prefer right side for button because its easier to reach but that also depends on if this button (depending on items on menu) will be used more often than others. And maybe with certain apps left side is seen as a 'starting' point just like the 'start' button in windows that is placed left
EDIT: i see that the hamburger button is used indeed for categories/places within an app and usually to slide open which makes sense to me. Unless it's used as a small settings menu but you can't have both i guess.
kaizokan said:
Maybe you already know or are not interested anymore but here's my thoughts.
They must have a good reason to do so. I also don't like a button on top because display size and if using one hand its hard to reach. But when that menu can be opened by sliding which seems to the case more often then its better. Althoough not all apps might want sliding enabled because other reasons. The placement on top has probably also to do with that the bottom area is a more interactive space for other interactions to happen with thumb or not... Or because now only a title bar on top is needed and no bar below which saves space and looks more simple (most likely). Why left or right? I don't know but also prefer right side for button because its easier to reach but that also depends on if this button (depending on items on menu) will be used more often than others. And maybe with certain apps left side is seen as a 'starting' point just like the 'start' button in windows that is placed left
EDIT: i see that the hamburger button is used indeed for categories/places within an app and usually to slide open which makes sense to me. Unless it's used as a small settings menu but you can't have both i guess.
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sure, all you say is correct, that's why my proposal was top right, still slidable and none of the reasons you mentioned would interfere, just that the top right for all right-handers (the majority) is at shorter distance than the top left which for a main in-app-nav-tool is the farthest away possible.
thanks for taking you time and the meaning of the thread is/was to get this kind of replies and not getting simply agreement, because i'm sure that they discussed all 4 corners and deciced for top-left for a reason. this does not automatically make it the best decision but if we could find out what the real reason was and understand their point of view, it would be easier to take it as a given fact. so there are two solutions: a) understanding or b) correction
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