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Looks like Sprint has started the upgrade of the 3G signal in North Metro Atlanta area.
No change in Dunwoody
Well I'm so obsessed with the performance of this phone (flashoholicism Wow!) that I'm usually connected to my Comcast WiFi...
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My speeds in Brooklyn, NY have also gone up from about ~700mbps down to ~1.8mbps down
Need FOR SPEED #1 priority
I am rocking a screeching 10MBps (down) and 8MBps down...
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I am rocking a screeching 10MBps (down) and 8MBps down...
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Not on the sprint 3G network your not
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Lucky yall.....
Morbius_III said:
I am rocking a screeching 10MBps (down) and 8MBps down...
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I can do that too, troll.
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bloodrain954 said:
Not on the sprint 3G network your not
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No kidding. Did you forget this phone has WiMAX?
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Lucky yall.....
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Jeebus! I'd switch carriers...
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It looks like they upgraded something good over here at the base. I'm officially happy.
No change up here in Kennesaw. My mom's up in Cartersville seems a little faster.
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Lucky yall.....
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If I had to guess... I'd bet its that clock of yours causing the problem lol
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Lucky yall.....
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Damn you make my speeds look like fios
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If I had to guess... I'd bet its that clock of yours causing the problem lol
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Bro don't hate on my clock!
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Damn you make my speeds look like fios
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Yeah I get horrible speeds. Like all over dfw...
I'm on the og and still getting the average 3g speads in chamblee area
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My speeds pretty normal in green bay.
Sprint EVO 3D.
HW version: 002
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No kidding. Did you forget this phone has WiMAX?
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Were not talking about 4G, with that arguement I have 100mbps down and 25mpbs up with my Comcast WiFi connection.
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Screw sprint. I'm flashing the 00001 prl and tethering to my desktop to sync the cyanogenmod github. Talkin no etf and here I come t mobile.
I can't stream netflix. No YouTube no Pandora. Forget even a steady enough connection to even successfully download a 90 mb ROM from my dropbox. I guess I could drive over 600 miles or so to some amazingly over rated 4G/wimax. T-mo gets consistant 2.5.to 3.5 mbs on the hspa+ network sitting 4 inches from my evo3d I value my time. Maybe when Verizon kills sprint off ill try some cdma again. But I am so sick of having a 4G phone with a sub 56k connection that was slow in 2000.
Sprint can kiss my ass.
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Screw sprint. I'm flashing the 00001 prl and tethering to my desktop to sync the cyanogenmod github. Talkin no etf and here I come t mobile.
I can't stream netflix. No YouTube no Pandora. Forget even a steady enough connection to even successfully download a 90 mb ROM from my dropbox. I guess I could drive over 600 miles or so to some amazingly over rated 4G/wimax. T-mo gets consistant 2.5.to 3.5 mbs on the hspa+ network sitting 4 inches from my evo3d I value my time. Maybe when Verizon kills sprint off ill try some cdma again. But I am so sick of having a 4G phone with a sub 56k connection that was slow in 2000.
Sprint can kiss my ass.
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Im thinking about doing the same... Who cares about a 2gig limit if i can never get to it... I had tmobile when it was 5gig and the one time I did get throttled it was slow but not as slow as 12kbps like I get now with sprint... I've called dozens of times and they all say the same thing...
"No towers are showing any problems data wise... let's set up a eticket and have the device checked out..."
Go to the sprint service center... Guy looks at my phone and checks a few things out...
"No problems here"
I tell him to run a speed test (in a sprint store) and I pull 150kbps...
Now I have WiFi at home and have to use it to watch/stream anything... But why in the fack am I paying for "premium data"?
Hello roaming!
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Related
http://gizmofusion.com/2011/09/sprint-upgrading-existing-3g-coverage-area-to-evdo-rev-b-october-7th/
You should just move this to the thread about the EVDO rev B
boom!! from my shooter
:000 , that's good. Btw Hardstyle or no Style!
Old news but thanks for notifying those who didnt know yet ;P
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Wait, so their 3g is going to be faster than the 4g they offer in most cases? lol
i told u i told u i told u
Awesome...didn't know anything about this
Thanks Op for the info
Thanks for the info, but will it roll out like 4g? Very slow time wise...couple years, limited area coverage? Guess we will have to wait till October 7. Sometimes I hate sprint.
He got it wrong that guy all 4g phone support evdo rev b and evo 3d and epic touch support evdo 3d and do advance nextwork and speeds of evdo rev b is 9 mps down and 5 mps up unless sprint caps the speeds only and do advance hits 14 mps down and 5 mps up
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Thanks for the info, but will it roll out like 4g? Very slow time wise...couple years, limited area coverage? Guess we will have to wait till October 7. Sometimes I hate sprint.
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And no it will roll out where ever is 3g evdo rev a mr and enjoy if u dont belive it just wait and see but for some odd reason 4g just not ganne be on when they roll out this unless they hit the switch also on 4g to wimax wave 2 and im pretty sure they will
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hmm, weird, it coincides with the expected release of the iphone 5.
my guess: iPhone 5 on sprint will be 3.5g (rev b) rather than 4g. I have my doubts that apple will create a LTE and a wimax 4g phone, especially since the rumors are pointing to one iphone model, that works all over the world.
In terms of what this means to me, awesome! I hope itll actually work though, my current speeds are well below 3g or even 2g.
Interesting, but all still just rumor that may well have started just in forums. Not saying it's not true, but taking it with a grain of salt until something more official comes around.
That said, what the last poster brought up about the iphone possibly having Rev B support makes sense. It would put Sprint more in line with 4G from other carriers (and beating their 3G), and assuming the iphone doesn't come with LTE, a leg up even.
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Interesting, but all still just rumor that may well have started just in forums. Not saying it's not true, but taking it with a grain of salt until something more official comes around.
That said, what the last poster brought up about the iphone possibly having Rev B support makes sense. It would put Sprint more in line with 4G from other carriers (and beating their 3G), and assuming the iphone doesn't come with LTE, a leg up even.
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I really doubt that iphone will ever support faster data not even evdo rev b dont get ur hopes up apple sucks big time
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nadcicle said:
Wait, so their 3g is going to be faster than the 4g they offer in most cases? lol
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hilarious.
i laughed out loud from the reality of this statement.
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hilarious.
i laughed out loud from the reality of this statement.
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well thats potential speed. Keep in mind the potential speed of wimax is like 100 mbps, meanwhile the fastest it can usually get is around 8. I figure maybe if they go to rev b i can sqeeze out a whole 100 kbps, lol. sprint blows in this area.
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well thats potential speed. Keep in mind the potential speed of wimax is like 100 mbps, meanwhile the fastest it can usually get is around 8. I figure maybe if they go to rev b i can sqeeze out a whole 100 kbps, lol. sprint blows in this area.
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Looks like u still stuck at 1x in ur area
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Looks like u still stuck at 1x in ur area
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No its just the just the horrible 3G most of us get.. I get anywhere from 95kbs to 250 Max at home averaging at 145 most the time...
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And no it will roll out where ever is 3g evdo rev a mr and enjoy if u dont belive it just wait and see but for some odd reason 4g just not ganne be on when they roll out this unless they hit the switch also on 4g to wimax wave 2 and im pretty sure they will
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Wait...will do. Because that's the only thing I been doing...waiting for 3 years for them to deliver what they promised...unlimited 4g here in San Diego. What's another few years..For improved 3G
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No its just the just the horrible 3G most of us get.. I get anywhere from 95kbs to 250 Max at home averaging at 145 most the time...
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Well if i would get those speeds I would call them , after so much they should grant you to cancel the line(done it in the past )
I do not get amazing speeds but there good overall
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Btw speed test updated it and it supports qHD displays
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jgalan14 said:
Well if i would get those speeds I would call them , after so much they should grant you to cancel the line(done it in the past )
I do not get amazing speeds but there good overall
Btw speed test updated it and it supports qHD displays
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I would love to get speeds like that.
Does anyone know if AT&T still plans on enabling 64QAM on their HSPA+ network(if they haven't already)? Or have they decided to ditch evolved HSPA+ in favor of LTE? I love my Galaxy s2, but sucks I can't take advantage of the HSPA+ 21mbps radio, especially considering there will not be LTE here in Detroit anytime soon.
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Does anyone know if AT&T still plans on enabling 64QAM on their HSPA+ network(if they haven't already)? Or have they decided to ditch evolved HSPA+ in favor of LTE? I love my Galaxy s2, but sucks I can't take advantage of the HSPA+ 21mbps radio, especially considering there will not be LTE here in Detroit anytime soon.
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They are still using 16QAM which effectively limits your speeds at 14.4mbps in theory. The latest I've heard is they will not be upgrading to 64QAM and they expect their users to fall back to 14.4mbps capable HSPA+
Totally sucks that T-Mobile users have been rocking 64QAM since last year.
Im nearing that 14.4 limit
This was using the HSPA+ from my ATT GS2 while tethered to my laptop
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How do you get that speed? I'm maxing out at 5mbps in NYC... sad.
Are you using that site? It reports different speeds than the application, so might want to look at that...
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How do you get that speed? I'm maxing out at 5mbps in NYC... sad.
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Yeah, that sucks only getting 5mbps on a cell phone.
I don't even get that on my home internet.
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Are you using that site? It reports different speeds than the application, so might want to look at that...
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I do get different reports too but ive seen similar results on speedtest as well.
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How do you get that speed? I'm maxing out at 5mbps in NYC... sad.
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Ha, I wish I could hit 5. I can't break 3 in an area with hspa+
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I do get different reports too but ive seen similar results on speedtest as well.
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I almost get 2.5x more on the site, so it confuses me. Can't break 4 mbps on the application, but on the site, I can go over 10 easily, even 12 mbps...
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They are still using 16QAM which effectively limits your speeds at 14.4mbps in theory. The latest I've heard is they will not be upgrading to 64QAM and they expect their users to fall back to 14.4mbps capable HSPA+
Totally sucks that T-Mobile users have been rocking 64QAM since last year.
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Except for the fact that you don't usually ever see anything over 8 down in most areas with it... Switched from tmobile, their speed and coverage was never consistent. At least with att I get a consistent 7 just about everywhere I go i'm the suburbs and the city (Philly area)
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In Atlanta I'm getting over 8
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In + I range from 1/2 to 3 (rare) mbps. Never got anything above that. Sppedtest app, speakeasy, different APNs and build.prop changes still no help.
Temple is a low traffic area.
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Yeah, that sucks only getting 5mbps on a cell phone.
I don't even get that on my home internet.
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Heh, I did say "max out", didn't I? Average is perhaps 1-2mbps. (And max 5 is being generous). But hey, upload speed is faster than my cable heh.
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Ha, I wish I could hit 5. I can't break 3 in an area with hspa+
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What area is that? I can consistently hit 3-4 Mbps on my captivate in Dallas. Seeing these download speeds is really making me consider switching to Tmobile.
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I've hit like 3.5mbps down once but usually around 1.5mbps down. I would be happy with 3.
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I had very nice speeds today around 91208 zip code area and even higher through speakeasy.net/speedtest. I hope to get those speeds where I live.
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What area is that? I can consistently hit 3-4 Mbps on my captivate in Dallas. Seeing these download speeds is really making me consider switching to Tmobile.
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Syracuse ny
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Can u confirm other places please here is west of texas
A bit 3g improvement so far
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Got the update and updated profile. Speeds slower in Salt Lake City.
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Got the update and updated profile. Speeds slower in Salt Lake City.
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No way
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Not showing up here and updating your PRL and getting better 3G and or lower 3G speeds is mostly a placebo effect.
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Not showing up here and updating your PRL and getting better 3G and or lower 3G speeds is mostly a placebo effect.
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Not always
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Not always
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Can you read? I said mostly... also on Sprint with official PRL's you cannot roam with 3G speeds, only 1x speeds which suck. PRL updates you may see better coverage but that is it, you still will not get better 3G speeds. If you think so you are drinking some awesome cool aid!
do you think this prl would enable 1x-advanced?
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do you think this prl would enable 1x-advanced?
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The only way we would have 1x advanced enabled is from a radio firmware upgrade.
Yup just got the update too
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The only way we would have 1x advanced enabled is from a radio firmware upgrade.
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Right.
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Still stuck on 21081 here in FL
Feels like it made my phone take longer to search for the best tower
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21083 in Jax Fl.
Anyone sending same text multiple times with new prl?
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God I remember what happened last time I updated my PRL. Was stuck in 1XRTT for a week. Was very gay, I'll give it a try see what happens... No way sprint would screw it up again would they? lol
Update: PRL 21083 live here in Minneapolis. Hey they didn't jack the 3G this time.
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I get full wimax signal at my house still mixed results there. I never use it here since I have wi-fi. Ran a few tests just for kicks anywhere from 2 on the low end to 6+ on the high. When it first came here use to pull 10+ everytime.
God I can't wait for wimax to go, funny there is an ad in speedtest for verizon that says want an LTE network? Yes I do. Sprints 3G is good when it actually works, it use to be the best around not so much anymore. I would be way ok with CONSISTENT speeds of 1,000+ I just want enough to run rhapsody and pandora. EVDO rev B would be a nice upgrade, I hope we see it sometime along with LTE.
I would say haven't noticed any faster speeds at home, but hopefully when I'm out and about it is a little more consistent.
21083 in Portland Oregon
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Jacksonville Florida (Local Time 10:18 EST) Phone updated to 21083 PRL . Havent ran speed tests as of yet but Im sure they are still the same slow ass speeds as they were before .
3G
DL .49Mbps
Upl .08Mbps
Thank god Sprint doesnt throttle data speeds I wouldnt have any data at all
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Jacksonville Florida (Local Time 10:18 EST) Phone updated to 21083 PRL . Havent ran speed tests as of yet but Im sure they are still the same slow ass speeds as they were before .
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Still not getting it near Orlando here, guess I'll have to switch back to a more complete stock ROM and try
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PRL updates you may see better coverage but that is it, you still will not get better 3G speeds. If you think so you are drinking some awesome cool aid!
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No matter how many times you tell people this, it never registers. The placebo effect is far more powerful than logic.
I personally wasnt expecting better 3G speeds but one can hope . I spent the past week roaming in Verizon's territory (Yes I used the PRL hack for verizon towers since I was in a verizon zone anyways) OMG delicious download speeds (still drooling)
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Like the title says. Sprint says there's no tower work and no outages. WTF!
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it's shopped.
you can't get that good of signal with Sprint
I'm in the LA area too. Somedays, I have to update my PRL two or three times, then voila, get great speeds back.
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I'm in the LA area too. Somedays, I have to update my PRL two or three times, then voila, get great speeds back.
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Dude, I live in Los Angeles too. Well actually I live fairly close to Los Angeles, data is so ****ty for me. I've looked at the network and keep watching all this so called upgrades done around me but service is still horrible.
I haven't seen scores that low in a long time. What PRL are you guys using? I'm close to the LA area too. Well in OC, close to Huntington Beach if your familiar w/ that area. I usually get about 1.2 meg down...
I've done plenty of profile and prl updates. I've used prl 21079 21080 21082 and the business prl. I've even flashed a different ROM and still the same.
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Been using titan HD and 11115 prl in subs of chicago and been getting 1mb+ since.
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Stop worrying about your prl, they don't change your network speed unless you're roaming.
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Stop worrying about your prl, they don't change your network speed unless you're roaming.
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What this guy said. All the PRL does is tell your phone which towers to use. If anything its Sprint being Sprint.
And also you aren't being throttled.
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Like the title says. Sprint says there's no tower work and no outages. WTF!
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That's everyday Sprint 3G data speeds. Get use to it.
I live in the Detroit area and I'm supposed to be in a quality coverage spot and those are the scores I get everyday. Sprint SUCKS the only reason people use sprint is price that's it.
Then I guess its sprint or this phone. You know. My sister who's got the iPhone on sprint NEVER has these issues and we live in the same area.. What gives.
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Then I guess its sprint or this phone. You know. My sister who's got the iPhone on sprint NEVER has these issues and we live in the same area.. What gives.
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So, you are telling me that your sister can be in the same room as you, run the same speed test, and get much better results?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21128353&postcount=29
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This doesn't compensate for a dial-up 3G connection.
Here's what I usually get on 3G in North Carolina!
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Here's what I usually get on 3G in North Carolina!
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North carolina is usually better. Are you around the Charlotte area? Charlotte is awesome for Sprint.
Lol @ crying of being throttled when that's sprints normal speeds
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Lol @ crying of being throttled when that's sprints normal speeds
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lol. Permanently throttled.
Seriously Sprint sucks so bad.
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Seriously Sprint sucks so bad.
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So feel your pain, fixing to cancel and get a nexus world phone and go a different Avenue. Not going to wait another year. Just tired of waiting for things to improve.
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While those are some ****ty upload speeds... The download is actually really good. And the ping is pretty good too.
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While those are some ****ty upload speeds... The download is actually really good. And the ping is pretty good too.
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I agree. I think his post was being sarcastic.
Upload is always way slower than download speeds.
Wish I got those speeds.
Verizon is going to have 4G in my area by the end of the summer. Looking at another two years before Sprint 4G comes to my area.
So the the ultimate question is, how much do I like unlimited data?
One thing I know is, if Sprint pulls unlimited data after it acquires a network I am going to be more than upset. If I sit here for the next couple of years getting 50-300kbps average, while I could be getting 10 times that on big red, only to see Sprint say, "Okay, we have a network comparable to the other carriers, here's tiered data..." Somehow, I think that's there plan.
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I agree. I think his post was being sarcastic.
Upload is always way slower than download speeds.
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It was all in jest. I get acceptable 3g and good 4g. However, I will be mad if LTE if slower in my area than my current 4g.
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Wish I got those speeds.
Verizon is going to have 4G in my area by the end of the summer. Looking at another two years before Sprint 4G comes to my area.
So the the ultimate question is, how much do I like unlimited data?
One thing I know is, if Sprint pulls unlimited data after it acquires a network I am going to be more than upset. If I sit here for the next couple of years getting 50-300kbps average, while I could be getting 10 times that on big red, only to see Sprint say, "Okay, we have a network comparable to the other carriers, here's tiered data..." Somehow, I think that's there plan.
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If that's there plan I'm out. If they change unlimited data they will definately be letting people out of ETF I would think
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msimindlessmsi2 said:
It was all in jest. I get acceptable 3g and good 4g. However, I will be mad if LTE if slower in my area than my current 4g.
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Man I would die for those speeds. I bet you can download a 2 hour movie in 10 mins or less.
Yeah, my speeds suck in St. Louis too.
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zcink said:
Man I would die for those speeds. I bet you can download a 2 hour movie in 10 mins or less.
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Lol maybe in like 240p...
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Would love to see the 3G speeds. You are just lucky to have 4G coverage for the time being...maybe you'll have LTE by 2014
krayziejoe said:
Would love to see the 3G speeds. You are just lucky to have 4G coverage for the time being...maybe you'll have LTE by 2014
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4G WIMAX is scheduled to be here until 2015 AFAIK.
3G in St. Louis:
Speed
I would kill for speeds like that. im getting 63kbps down and 109kbps up.
My 3g is typically around 2 down. Luckily I live in Houston so LTE should work well for me.
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Using 3g:
Ping 201ms
down 732kbps
up 369kbps
using wifi through my home wireless router
Ping 96ms
down 2369kbps
up 331kbps
zcink said:
Man I would die for those speeds. I bet you can download a 2 hour movie in 10 mins or less.
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I could probably download a 2min movie in 10hrs with my ****ty 3g speeds.
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My 3G speeds are slow, but I live in a 4G area so I hop on that when I need to. I wish it was a little quicker to turn on the 4G antenna, though.
3G speeds has definitely improved for me in northern Delaware
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The unlimited "Now" network. Thank god for wifi.
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The unlimited "Now" network. Thank god for wifi.
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