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I am just wondering if anyone has any tips or mods I can do to lower the nasty pixilation I see when streaming over netflix or other movies sometimes.it happens on wifi and 3g.
it drives me insane when im watching a movie over hdmi output and it even gets "blurry" on my tv screen. Am I alone? Is there anything I can do to make it look clearer /sharper?
I didn't think it should show up like that on my tv also but it does. And the tv isn't a bad tv.
Just looking for a little more clarity. Mainly just a bit more consistent clarity. I don't mind it once in a while but it happens more than I like.
Thanks for any input.
There was a post this week (previous page ) called "Encoding settings for video playback" that was also addressing this issue (i believe). It was a little over my head technically, so I'm not sure what was concluded, but it sounds like what u r saying.
Oh, and I have the exact same experience (annoying), so lemme know what ya find out ; )
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it's highly compressed streaming video.... garbage in, garbage out.
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it's highly compressed streaming video.... garbage in, garbage out.
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That applies for netflix as well? I mean, I know its streaming, but that has to be due to hardware shortcomings, no?
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it's highly compressed streaming video.... garbage in, garbage out.
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See I don't understand this statement because it happens with ANY video/movie I watch with my x2. Have even viewed highly rated quality movies from "certain nameless " websites and get the same problem.
The only thing I don't really get nearly as much.pixilation while viewing is quality videos on youtube when viewing in high quality mode ((go figure))
Even when I was complete stock unrooted and rented a movie from google market I got the same problem.((I can't remember how constant it was but I KNOW pixilation was there))
Also im not really speaking of my videos I recorded.((of which I had great quality and playback was great also when atv720p and DVD quality )) but that was when using blur camera...I haven't tried any video recording on eclipse miui camera yet
Too many variables are involed with streaming. Every company may say streaming is the way to go when its not. Your internet connection, how many people are streaming on Netflix, plus SD vs hd, settings in Netflix, crappy HDMI chord. Bought an HDMI chord from an August zed retailer for Verizon and everything was pixilated. Didn't even get to the video when I saw how bad it.was.I just unhooked and returned. Rent or download the video. That's how you get the best quality. Streaming is 50/50 usually better hardware also makes the difference. Its probably recognizing that its mobile and is giving you crap cause they need to make sure their videos need to work within the fragmentation of android as a whole. Best to leave streaming on laptops hooked to your HDTV and streaming on mobile on you cellphone screen.
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Too many variables are involed with streaming. Every company may say streaming is the way to go when its not. Your internet connection, how many people are streaming on Netflix, plus SD vs hd, settings in Netflix, crappy HDMI chord. Bought an HDMI chord from an August zed retailer for Verizon and everything was pixilated. Didn't even get to the video when I saw how bad it.was.I just unhooked and returned. Rent or download the video. That's how you get the best quality. Streaming is 50/50 usually better hardware also makes the difference. Its probably recognizing that its mobile and is giving you crap cause they need to make sure their videos need to work within the fragmentation of android as a whole. Best to leave streaming on laptops hooked to your HDTV and streaming on mobile on you cellphone screen.
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The thing is the "blurry" picture on the tv screen looks EXACTLY like the image on my phone screen. It is an exact mirror. Im trying to figure out if there is a way I can fix that.
It was worse on eclipse 7. Something in one of the init.d scripts caused my gjjellyfish test to max at 22fps and my mandlebrot score to be horrific. So now that those are back to normal it doesn't happen as often but it is still noticeable. Just wondering if there is a way to improve that.
Do you get the problem with a video file on the phone itself? Cause so far all I can say is that blur is from the servers if it is not happening with the video file on the phone. I don't stream Netflix on my cell and when I used the mirror to an HDTV it looked horrible on TV but perfect on my cell.
It streaming depends with the host servers and overall quality of the video for mobile since they most likely won't be the same video files for computer's cause they meed to make sure it can stream on a 3g network and have the customer not die from old age waiting for it to load. Even though you use wifi it will still send the IP of a mobile which will get you the mobile version which may not be as good.
Only fix is to stream over a laptop instead. If you went through the apps and this did nothing then there is nothing you can do on your end.
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Has anyone tried using dolphin hd spoofed as a desktop to see if they can stream from netflix website? I think I may try this later on to see if that helps anything ...
Can anyone provide the best Handbrake settings for ripping DVDs?
I'm interested in opinions as well on this matter.
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Back when I had my Captivate I used these settings:
http://capfaq.com/w/Transferring_movies_from_DVD
I put these movies on my Note and they're all still excellent quality. I was assuming that the quality my suffer due to the Note's large size, but it's still great. And with these settings, I'd say about 75% of the movies I encoded were less than a gig and most less than 900MB.
Am I missing something? What does this have to do with the Note?
The note...being sent down to us by the gods (why...what gods you ask? Ill tell ya...the AMOLED gods, the robot gods, and the HD gods...and they frown on crabbiness.) and being so well endowed, is quite the media consumption device. What the OP was trying to figure out...was how he might best take advantage of such a wondrous and surely godly device.
And the movie industry...being ungodly as they are, makes an all-hands-on-deck effort to obfuscate and obscure any clearly delineated path to enjoying popcorn-tasting-finger-licking-goodness on the go. For this is their only purpose in life..besides, making movies, of course.
I might add...high profile is. Lovely. On the same subject... I've only used CIFSManger and allshare in combination with TVersity to play media...i use Netflix on the go. But Im curious as well...does anyone know which format and container is required to play native HW decoded video on the note? Does the container event matter? I know i can usually find a video player that can play any video file, but i have issues with .Mkv the most...and the pseudo-5.1 audio and the native player is nice....real nice.....really really niiiiiiiiiiiiiccccccccceeeeeee.
HW decoding is always a plus. And its easier on the battery too.
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Am I missing something? What does this have to do with the Note?
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I was just wondering if anyone had encoded any of their DVDs to play on the Note. I've used Handbrake previously to watch movies on my Captivate and thought someone might have played around enough to have optimal settings for the Note. Using the settings I had for my Captivate, the picture/sound quality is pretty great on the Note.
I use MakeMKV for both blu rays and dvds. (correct me if im wrong) as far as i know, it's like flac. Compresses the video with no loss of quality in both video and audio.
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iTunes movies are the perfect resolution and size for the note I found a bunch on torrents just by searching iTunes 720p they look great way better then the dvdrips I have been using
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For me its abuot file size. While I have been able to get a 64gb card to work on the GNote, I still am limited by the fat32 4gb restriction, so I am interested in settings for compression. I have many downloaded files bigger than 4gb.
You just answered a 13 month old post.
Yeah, well now we have his opinion. Better late than never.
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You just answered a 13 month old post.
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:laugh: Yeah, just before you did.:good:
I got better BrowserMark and Sunspider benchmarks on my TFP running the latest Virtuous ROM at 1.6 ghz than my wife's ipad2. I'm happy with just about everything on my TFP except videos on web pages. When it comes to loading and starting video clips, ipad2 smokes my TFP. For example, click on any videos at cnn.com website. Ipad2 loads and plays them much more quickly. I went to Best Buy and played with the Acer, Toshiba, Samsung tablets. They are all like my TFP. I wonder what Apple did to make ipad2 so fast in this department. Guys, don't tell me "Get an iPad2". I'm an Android guy. I'm curious why and how. Can Android one day match it, i.e. if it's not just hardware?
I'd suggest that the Android tablets are all playing Flash streams, whereas the iPad is playing H264 streams specifically optimised for it (as it doesn't play Flash).
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I'd suggest that the Android tablets are all playing Flash streams, whereas the iPad is playing H264 streams specifically optimised for it (as it doesn't play Flash).
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Yes, this. A better test would be to go to sites with only Flash video, and see which is faster...........
wynand32 said:
Yes, this. A better test would be to go to sites with only Flash video, and see which is faster...........
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aren't these threads getting redundant? its a never ending battle..lol
demandarin said:
aren't these threads getting redundant? its a never ending battle..lol
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Very much so...
it's magic from the Foxconn factories. See, Foxconn bought the land not knowing it was laden with magical properties.
These magical properties are passed on to the iDevices, making them magically faster at rendering h264 than the TP can render flv streams.
@demandarin, wynand32: you knew why already? you couldn't just say why but took the time to say "redundant"? Thanks for nothing.
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@demandarin, wynand32: you knew why already? you couldn't just say why but took the time to say "redundant"? Thanks for nothing.
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fair enough. one possible reason is because when you go to the site on the Ipad, it goes to the html5 version, which Ipad optimized for. when you go to same site on prime, its different and uses flash instead. Ipad doesn't play flash video so it automatically plays any html5 videos.
that's the reason. when you go to the same site on both devices, they aren't loading up the exact same thing. different versions of the same site.
it could depend on what browser you using on prime. IMO, stock browser sucks. Fastest one is Opera mobile and I've found it to play flash videos the best and fastest also.
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@demandarin, wynand32: you knew why already? you couldn't just say why but took the time to say "redundant"? Thanks for nothing.
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@foxmeister already answered why. Those sites are optimized for the iPad, whereas the Prime is running Flash video. As to whether Android will ever catch up, sure, when all sites are converted to HTML5 for video. Until then, we have to be satisfied with a wider variety of video (more sites still support Flash video than are optimized for the iPad) but lesser performance in some cases.
I suppose it's just frustrating to see so many iPad - Prime comparisons that I knee-jerked a reaction. My apologies.
Change your UA string to iPad and try again....
Know what? Lot of these browsers let you choose the user agent: have you tried, say, Boat Browser set to iPad?
Just wondering, I haven't played with it much and it seems to like to crash with a lot of videos, but it's worth a try to play around and when it does actually work it feels pretty good.
Uninstall flash
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Because you're comparing apples to oranges. Don't like it? Buy an iPad2 already and get off our forums.
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Because you're comparing apples to oranges. Don't like it? Buy an iPad2 already and get off our forums.
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You don't even know what comparing apples to oranges means. I'm comparing the same video running on the same website. How's that comparing apples and oranges? "Our forums"? Really? You can't even read. Xda members are not dumb and unhelpful like you.
On CNN, if you access it with TFP (with User Agent set to Desktop or Android) and Windows 7, you get their video in Flash; with iPad, I'm guessing it's something else, probably H264/HTML5 like a couple of members said, which starts significantly faster, about 20-30 secs faster than the TFP on a side-by-side, and still faster than my wired Intel i5 1.6Ghz 4G RAM Windows 7 HP Folio notebook. CNN obviously has optimized a version of the site for iPad. But damn, it's really fast.
It's a similar situation on CNET. Flash for TFP and Windows 7, something else for ipad. The site's video starts faster for ipad but not as that much as on CNN. I guess not as optimized as CNN for iPad.
When I set User Agent to iPad on both ICS Browser+ and Dolphin HD. Video on CNN starts a little faster but still nowhere at the speed of iPad. I guess I will user iPad mode for the User Agent setting.
On sites, like Engadget, that has YouTube videos, videos start at about the same speed with iPad a tad faster. But when it comes to strict Flash video, I don't have to say it, but iPad is out of luck.
Another thing is iPad's robustness. My TFP has rebooted 3 times during my little tests while iPad is playing the vidoes merrily, going back and forth full screen to windowed screen. Don't tell me you don't want videos to start fast and be robust. I love Android for its enormous possibilities and choices so I can live with a few crashes, some lagginess here and there. I do want to have eventually a complete fast, smooth, and robust experience. I know there'll be a lot of people saying I'm wasting my time. But I think Google, Android developers should hear this more often, get competitive guys.
I use Dolphin religiously and Desktop user agent w/o AdBlock is going to get you pretty awful performance on any Android tablet.
Android user agent is most definitely the best way to go. Tried using Netflix's website on iPad ua and it was completely unusable. Couldn't even look at movie summary pages.
I have been away form the android development for a while now as it didnt have the ability to view movies in it nor was there a tv-out. I was wondering if any of the more recent builds have addressed this? I am having a heck of a time finding it via thread search.
Nope, I don't think anyone got TV out working. There were always bigger fish to fry, and with the userbase not really clamoring for it... No dev ever worked on it.
All our code is open source, so anyone can pickup where we left off. I'd say the project is pretty much done tho.
Wait, the Rhodium has TV-Out hardware? I didn't even know it could do that in WinMo! That's... actually kinda cool, although with as dinky as its CPU is I'm not sure just how useful it would be anyway -- who wants to play a 240p YouTube video on a big TV?
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Wait, the Rhodium has TV-Out hardware? I didn't even know it could do that in WinMo! That's... actually kinda cool, although with as dinky as its CPU is I'm not sure just how useful it would be anyway -- who wants to play a 240p YouTube video on a big TV?
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It requires an additional dongle, which should have been provided if you got the phone brand new.
I've never used it - I can't imagine videos are a pleasant thing. Perhaps a presentation or pic slideshow would be cool tho.
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It requires an additional dongle, which should have been provided if you got the phone brand new.
I've never used it - I can't imagine videos are a pleasant thing. Perhaps a presentation or pic slideshow would be cool tho.
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I have used it and it is actually quite awesome! I have watched full size divx movies using TCPMP/Core both at home on 46" HD (just to test it) and at various hotels/resorts (cause I always have some new movies ready anytime I fly) and the quality is perfect! To my eye the rhods screen and the attached monitor are pixel for pixel identical. HQ youtube looks fantastic, the same as my HTPC playing youtube in 480p. Haven't tried powerpoint yet but the picture slideshow is kinda cool too.
This is just another reason that I love haret/SD builds from XDAndroid. This is a function that I do not use 99% of the time but it IS there when I need it. That and offline GPS are the 2 big ones that keep me attached to WM (and my BT ODBII scanner I guess, but I have a feeling I COULD get this rockin' in android...if I wanted to put in the time )
EDIT: LOL. ODBII = OBDII... Every damn time!! I blame Old Dirty Bastard
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I have used it and it is actually quite awesome! I have watched full size divx movies using TCPMP/Core both at home on 46" HD (just to test it) and at various hotels/resorts (cause I always have some new movies ready anytime I fly) and the quality is perfect! To my eye the rhods screen and the attached monitor are pixel for pixel identical. HQ youtube looks fantastic, the same as my HTPC playing youtube in 480p. Haven't tried powerpoint yet but the picture slideshow is kinda cool too.
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Pixel for pixel, gawd I hope not. 480x800 on an HD screen would probably look AWFUL.
Does it at least put it in a respectable aspect ratio...?
Really surprised anyone actually uses this, haha. I guess some dev can still pick it up? Has anyone even tried the TV Out in Android? Seriously doubt it works, just curious.
lol, yeah it outputs in VGA only. So you have to set your monitor either to have black bars on the sides or zoom(which is perfect for widescreen movies). I watch all my movies at home streaming using the divx web player so I am used to 480p on my HDTV(they may be a little smoother looking on the HTPC since its outputting 720p). These movies look pretty good to me(tho HD mkv changes everything). And free increases the resolution ten fold!!
Anyway, back on topic... I have never tried in GBX because I do not use an official cable for TV-Out and because of this I have to "trick" WM by changing the registry so that it will recognize my cable as a TV-Out and not just a headset as it senses automatically. It actually has to change the function of the pins of the mini usb and thus the headphone jack of the multifunction dongle. The sheer hackiness of the solution in WM tells me that there is no way in hell that it will work for me in android with my current hardware.
And, to be honest I don't really want it in android. Lets face it, without external power you could probably watch like one TV episode before the battery crapped out(okay, a bit of an exaggeration, I know, but you know what I mean).
EDIT: Even more off topic but I can't resist. I have ordered a usb OTG cable from hong kong for a buck and once I get it my next experiment will be trying to play a movie using TV-Out, off of an external hard drive, hopefully while on external power.
As long as there are still new things to try on my rhod I can put off getting a new phone... but I am running out fast!
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And, to be honest I don't really want it in android. Lets face it, without external power you could probably watch like one TV episode before the battery crapped out(okay, a bit of an exaggeration, I know, but you know what I mean).
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Either you haven't tried OMGB, or you're just not aware...
But that build gets as good if not better battery life than WinMo. Thanks to ACL's amazing work reversing the batt driver for WinMo...
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Either you haven't tried OMGB, or you're just not aware...
But that build gets as good if not better battery life than WinMo. Thanks to ACL's amazing work reversing the batt driver for WinMo...
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As good as winmo eh (or even better no less)... That would be something...
Yes I am aware of it, but you are right, I haven't tried it yet. I do see a lot of good things about the battery life, but I am still too fond of WM to call it quits... i know, i know, probably time to "embrace change"!
I actually get great battery life from you guys GBX (I have hacked the crap out of it). I go easily all day and night doing everything and more than in WM. I love them both!
I actually have never tried to watch divx (or anything else for that matter) on android. Have you arrrghhh?[EDIT: or anyone else?] Any experience with watching local video files on the rhodium running any build? Do you need any app?
I am curious now?
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I have been away form the android development for a while now as it didnt have the ability to view movies in it nor was there a tv-out. I was wondering if any of the more recent builds have addressed this? I am having a heck of a time finding it via thread search.
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I can now answer half of your question: You definitely have the ability to watch movies on the rhod running android.
I have just installed MX player from the market and am about 20 mins into a 700mb divx movie on GBX0C with kernel 3.4. So far it is playing very well (much better than I expected, especially with no OC!).
MX installed no prob, then when I started it up it said something like "no codec installed. Install from market?" clicked yes, market comes up with Codec for MX Player (armv6), install that then play movie on card. Great!
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I can now answer half of your question: You definitely have the ability to watch movies on the rhod running android.
I have just installed MX player from the market and am about 20 mins into a 700mb divx movie on GBX0C with kernel 3.4. So far it is playing very well (much better than I expected, especially with no OC!).
MX installed no prob, then when I started it up it said something like "no codec installed. Install from market?" clicked yes, market comes up with Codec for MX Player (armv6), install that then play movie on card. Great!
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i can tell you that OMGB rom does not have a tv-out or at least my phone dont recognize the tv-out cable and flat screen to "see" my phone either. i have one of those tv-out HTC Multimedia ACT100 TV Out Cable for HTC Fuze/Touch Pro cables. works in winmo not on android. but i havent tried any special apps either.
speaking on the quality of the output video in Winmo when put on a TV. It has a lot to do with the file your playing obviously. I carry the same sentiment previously mentioned the RCA out and the offline GPS (tomtom) are what keeps me attached to my Phone.
I use the TV out nearly every day I hook it up to the Gym TV to do insanity or P90X, and listen to the audio via BT headset (I already looks like a fool jumping around I don't need to cause more displeasure on people making them endure Tony Horton or Shawn T). The video shows up not perfect, but I have super compressed files, its good enough to tell what the exercise is and how much time is left)
This setup would be perfect If core player (.mp4 files) would accept AVRCP inputs on the rhodium but that is where my perfect setup falls short. I suppose rather then viewing new phones I could purchase a 32gb sd card and just get different file formats of the videos.
Thank you all for the input, ill live with what i have for now, great work to all the devs as far as they took this project.
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I actually have never tried to watch divx (or anything else for that matter) on android. Have you arrrghhh?[EDIT: or anyone else?] Any experience with watching local video files on the rhodium running any build? Do you need any app?
I am curious now?
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I have tried four free divx players on the Google Play Market on my Rhodium running GB0X. The best performance I found was with Seaman Player, I think that is what it was. MX was sketchy for me, and none of them play as sharply as watching the same files in CorePlayer in WinMo.
To keep from getting to far OT, I have the dongle and it works great in WinMo, but given the playback performance on the built-in screen my hopes are not high that we would have good results on TV-out.
Amazon Prime Video app is in full HD.
Netflix is also available in full HD.... Simply log into Netflix through the Chrome browser and watch in full screen HD, rather than using the Netflix app!
Sorted.
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It's the Netflix app that is the problem.
Sorry further testing and Netflix is running at 540 not 1080p.
Perfectly watchable though and better than 480 being reported.
Well... perfectly watchable in your opinion. Totally unexcusable in mine. They are selling this as a MEDIA tablet. And a customer should watch stuff at DVD resolution? In 2018?
ROTFL
@gorman42 I can understand your position, but all DRM is crap and there are so many different solutions for that. Following your argumentation every producer of a device needs to support all of the different solutions ... Ok, widevine probably is a bit different because it's provided by Google and you do not need to pay a license fee but nevertheless the producer needs to implement and to test ... which might be time consuming and costy. Only looking from a producers point of view
Ok, first of all. Sorry to the OP. Re-reading myself I see that I came off sounding aggressive. It's not your fault and I offer my excuses to you. Sincerely.
To @AndDiSa: that's the main point. It's Widevine. It's used by all major streaming services (Netflix and Prime Video use it, don't know about others). It's free. In my opinion if you want to come out with a media tablet, defining it as such, with an HD+ screen... well, you do have to support it. If you don't, you don't get my money. For me it's a matter of principle.
And note that I'm very against DRM, personally. But for kids and family, generally speaking, streaming services offer a level of convenience that can't be beaten.
Saw a reply from Huawei on their UK Mobile twitter feed - promising an update sometime in the future for Netflix HD - but no date yet...