EDIT: As of August 1, 2011 - CF-Root can now be used for KPN together with its features and mods such as the use of ext4 filesystem and apps2SD.
For more details on this development, go here. Thanks to ketut.kumajaya for making CF-Root compatible to 2.3.3 KPN.
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I have just noticed that almost all dev, Scripts, modification, ROMs coming in for our phone (GT-S5830) is based on XXKPH or 2.3.4. While this is actually good and finally the Galaxy Ace forum is not a legacy forum anymore, I still believe that it would be so much better if there will be a ROM, modification, or customized improvement that will be done using 2.3.3 (KPL or KPN or the upcoming official FW from Samsung on 2.3.3)
Why 2.3.3? (Just because KPH is 2.3.4 doesn't mean that it's better)
It's an official release.
Samsung has improved and fixed quite a number of issues found on previous builds of 2.3.3 (KPN) and even on the leaked 2.3.4 (KPH). This includes the wake-up lag an Wifi Sleep of Death.
2.3.3 is already available via KIES (as of KPE build)
2.3.3 might be improved further. As you may notice, for now, the European countries are getting the 2.3.3 (KPE - Russian, KPK - Still a European Release, KPL - Poland, KPN - Spain). Imagine when it becomes available in KIES in America and Asia. There might be new bug fixes and improvements.
The reasons above makes 2.3.3 KPL, KPN a more stable version of Gingerbread for the Ace already. Actually, IMO it is really the most stable firmware for the Ace.
Most of all, 2.3.4 KPH might not be continued until the next Android version for Smartphones (which could probably take years before it reaches Galaxy Ace)
Current ROM on 2.3.3.
Currently, VillainROMv1 is the only ROM for the Ace that is based on 2.3.3 (KPE). It may not be one of the fastest custom ROMs out there for the Ace but it's one of the most stable because of using 2.3.3 as its base.
Still, even if this is the case, it would still be nice to have a new custom ROM based on 2.3.3 (probably KPN or newest build when it's released) because at the end of the day, a stable and fast ROM is what everyone is looking for.
Maybe if I don't work, I may have tried on cooking a ROM for 2.3.3 (KPN) but for now, let this post be an inspiration for devs and scripters to have a look at the latest official release of Samsung firmware for the Ace.
Your Opinion
What do you think? Have you tried using 2.3.3 KPN? Have you tried using custom ROMs built on KPH? Which ROM or firmware is more stable and faster?
What's the greatest combination that worked for you and lasted on your phone for more than 1 week?
i absolutely agree with above - not just because it's official etc. it's LATEST officially tested and released firmware, meaning there's quite a chance sammy fixed sth really annoying like infamous SOD's (and also screwed up elsewhere as usual ) but there always some 'but'...
the whole rom development goes forward along with new builds and usually it's progress (although many would point out kph 2.3.4 -> kpl/n 2.3.3 is not)
other teams, other roms - it is the same story. but it's just point to release new custom versions based on newer builds instead of postponing all development while waiting for THE very last build... let it grow
Yeah atlast we are out of Legacy thing......deserving the right place...... Thanks XDA mods
Using KPN atm. No more random screenshot issues and general stability and speed has improved. Also Three in the U.K are meant to be suppling the 2.3 upgrade next week. So a generic U.K release cannot be far off.
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I'm using the latest brazilian FW 2.3.4 and I don't have any wifi sod's, random screenshots or whatever. Actually, I don't care about official FWs, it's nice, but I want CM7!
Jekle_Ace said:
Using KPN atm. No more random screenshot issues and general stability and speed has improved. Also Three in the U.K are meant to be suppling the 2.3 upgrade next week. So a generic U.K release cannot be far off.
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Actually its due this week ;D
P.s. The only real difference in 2.3.4 is video call, which we cant use anyways...
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Jekle_Ace said:
Using KPN atm. No more random screenshot issues and general stability and speed has improved. Also Three in the U.K are meant to be suppling the 2.3 upgrade next week. So a generic U.K release cannot be far off.
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Never knew that the random screen shot was a bug. Encountered a couple of those while in KPH.
Hope someone develop a custom rom based on KPN..
I've been using 2.3.4 KPH for almost 2 months now and (lucky me) I have not experienced any SODs, WiFi crash or something like that.
The upcoming GingerReal seem to use 2.3.4 as its base, CMIIW.
indeezindii said:
i absolutely agree with above - not just because it's official etc. it's LATEST officially tested and released firmware, meaning there's quite a chance sammy fixed sth really annoying like infamous SOD's (and also screwed up elsewhere as usual ) but there always some 'but'...
the whole rom development goes forward along with new builds and usually it's progress (although many would point out kph 2.3.4 -> kpl/n 2.3.3 is not)
other teams, other roms - it is the same story. but it's just point to release new custom versions based on newer builds instead of postponing all development while waiting for THE very last build... let it grow
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Of course of course. I'm actually thankful that there are a lot of great Custom ROMs now for the Ace like FirstUA and even gingerreal even if it's just in t5b release.
Just saying that it would be nice to have Custom ROMs as well for the KPN at least since it seems like a lot of bugs has been fixed in KPN like the fluctuating/stuck 3g connection (I dont get that now in 2.3.3)
Also, just like the posts above me, the UK version is probably coming very soon. (English FW for the win!) Which could be a good base for Custom ROMs since it's already in english.
Last but not the least, it would be really nice to have a Custom ROM based on KPN or whatever the build for UK firmware will be that does not need a lot of things to do because right now, my friends don't want to flash to a custom rom because they are afraid that they may brick their phones because there are so many things to do in order to flash.
well, lot to do to flash custom from stock, me feel the same that's why i'm rather waiting for tested good custom (gingerreal possibly?) with good tutorial and howto. patience pays back i reckon.
+1 for a KPN based custom rom.
wifi bug is the most annoying!
what modifications are compatible with KPN firmware?
i'm talking about cf-root, dta2sd, juwe's script, the works!
Hi guys,
i'm using KPH now for over a month and i like it very much till now. Im using it because there's a lot of mods and stuff for it at the moment and the near future, that make it even better.
As 4 stability; i think al latest 2.3.3 GB builds are even (only lang. are different i think), but don't know about KPH because it was an earlier release as the 2.3.3 builds. There could be bugs in it indeed, that are gone in 2.3.3 builds, but only time will tell as the builds are to new to tell already.
Maybe in time i will flash my phone to the Dutch firmware when it comes out or use the UK version of 2.3.3, but till then i will stay at 2.3.4.
Cheers!
I may be able to give you a KPN CWM ROM gimme a day or two.
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I may be able to give you a KPN CWM ROM gimme a day or two.
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That would be nice if you could do that
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i am KPN user. i am stisfied with this rom.
my phone doesnt install many aplication. so i dont need DT.
my phone is my internet, i hope samsung release next generation of XWKPN
Im lucky not to have the bugs the author is saying.
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Jekle_Ace said:
I may be able to give you a KPN CWM ROM gimme a day or two.
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Looking forward to that.
I'm like Saminos. I use this phone most of the time for internet because of work and I'm always traveling. But still, it would be better to see ROMs based on probably the most stable firmware release of Samsung so far.
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chinoyray said:
I have just noticed that almost all dev, Scripts, modification, ROMs coming in for our phone (GT-S5830) is based on XXKPH or 2.3.4. While this is actually good and finally the Galaxy Ace forum is not a legacy forum anymore, I still believe that it would be so much better if there will be a ROM, modification, or customized improvement that will be done using 2.3.3 (KPL or KPN or the upcoming official FW from Samsung on 2.3.3)
Why 2.3.3? (Just because KPH is 2.3.4 doesn't mean that it's better)
It's an official release.
Samsung has improved and fixed quite a number of issues found on previous builds of 2.3.3 (KPN) and even on the leaked 2.3.4 (KPH). This includes the wake-up lag an Wifi Sleep of Death.
2.3.3 is already available via KIES (as of KPE build)
2.3.3 might be improved further. As you may notice, for now, the European countries are getting the 2.3.3 (KPE - Russian, KPK - Still a European Release, KPL - Poland, KPN - Spain). Imagine when it becomes available in KIES in America and Asia. There might be new bug fixes and improvements.
The reasons above makes 2.3.3 KPL, KPN a more stable version of Gingerbread for the Ace already. Actually, IMO it is really the most stable firmware for the Ace.
Most of all, 2.3.4 KPH might not be continued until the next Android version for Smartphones (which could probably take years before it reaches Galaxy Ace)
Current ROM on 2.3.3.
Currently, VillainROMv1 is the only ROM for the Ace that is based on 2.3.3 (KPE). It may not be one of the fastest custom ROMs out there for the Ace but it's one of the most stable because of using 2.3.3 as its base.
Still, even if this is the case, it would still be nice to have a new custom ROM based on 2.3.3 (probably KPN or newest build when it's released) because at the end of the day, a stable and fast ROM is what everyone is looking for.
Maybe if I don't work, I may have tried on cooking a ROM for 2.3.3 (KPN) but for now, let this post be an inspiration for devs and scripters to have a look at the latest official release of Samsung firmware for the Ace.
Your Opinion
What do you think? Have you tried using 2.3.3 KPN? Have you tried using custom ROMs built on KPH? Which ROM or firmware is more stable and faster?
What's the greatest combination that worked for you and lasted on your phone for more than 1 week?
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Kabayn..nice..great idea..
By the wy..
Is 2.3.3 available in our country now?
I havent checked it out..
KPN for me is way better than Froyo .. I can't believe I'm saying this.. But here goes .. I used to develop for my old GT540 , so I'm not all stupid .. How do I enable Apps2SD , im not rooted and dont plan to ...
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Hi!
I have recently bought a second hand Vibrant.
Seller had MIUI on it, which I didn't like, for a few reasons.
One was non working GPS.
So, I installed latest stable CM 7 , which I like, BUT, GPS doesn't
work with it too. As I understood, that is common problem with 2.3.3
based ROM and Vibrant.
So I started looking for 2.2 based ROM and faced the problem, that
most links for these are currently dead.
I have succeeded to download Toxic Crazy8 and few versions of bionic,
but my recovery (version 5.0.x.x) refuses to flash them, as they are
in "old format" .
So, long story short, I am still looking for a ROM that will make me happy,
and thus need your help .
My requirements are :
Deodexed ROM, so I can apply the RTL fix on it ( or with built in RTL support).
Working GPS
Good battery life
Not too slow
As new as possible ( may be 2.3.x if all the above apply)
Should include FFC mod support
with working download link .
So, your help,suggestions and advices (and download links) are welcome!
Thank you in advance!
First and for most I suggest the ICS Passion V11 rom ....but if you want to go back to the extremely stable roms among us you will have to flash an older clockwork something that can be done in clockwork mod. Many people suggest Project V it was a great rom, but most would say that you can't go wrong with the bionix roms. Again though ICS Passion V11 (4.0.3 based) is definitely a modern winner though.
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ICS PASSION.
Stable fast GPS works and its 4.0.3
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If you want the newest, latest and greatest, the two posters above me nailed it. Passion is awesome and fairly stable.
But if you are wanting a 2.2 ROM, fisherman (I think that's his name) is updating Bionix and should have updated links.
ICS Passion
Thanks for all the replies!
Let's say that you've convinced me, and I am going to try the ICS Passion.
Few more questions regarding it though.
As I am totally not familiar with ICS, does it have RTL support?
I recall I have read somewhere it does , out of the box...
Does ICS Passion have support for FFC mod, or , specifically, will
I be able to have video chats on Skype or it's alternatives?
Thank you in advance!
Mulder check your PM box.
If you don't end up liking the ICS, there are these 2.2's that are solid builds and you can flash them with the CWR version in my signature.
Toxic8 (which you tried but with the linked recovery it should work-did for me)
Deranged9
Bionix
Bionix-Fishman redux
Trigger
Bi-winning
2.3's have battery and memory issues, so buyer beware.
Oh, and how good is ICS in terms of battery life?
I get 2 days out of her...
hello.
I went back to miui 2.2.3 after getting annoyed with all the little bugs in different ICS.
GB is stable enough for me.
currently i'm using SiyahKernel 2.6.14.
i know that i cannot use SiyahKernel v3, beacuase it was designed for ICS.
is there any NEW kernel for GB? or everyone has passed to ICS?
i have tried searching for days, and didnt find any current kernel.
thanks.
Doubt you'll find anything more 'recent' than that last build of Siyah. Almost everyone's moved on.
If their is any new kernel its posted in the usual place .
Yes most are on ICS and i am even nearly on ICS once i decide what i want .
jje
So, sorry to ask this here but no "General" forum for the Ray unfortunately...
My wife's Gingerbread Ray is showing some signs of fatigue and I want to update it in order to start with a fresh new Rom.
It's running stock 2.3 right now and I'm not excited to update to the official 4.0 as I've read quite a lot about its very poor reactiveness.
I am planning to go with a custom Rom. I know my wife won't like to change of UI so I'm looking for an optimized official version. But if the phone does get way more responsive with an aosp/cm9 ROM (and I'm pretty sure it will), aosp/cm9.
The thing is that it has to be stable and fully functional cause I won't be updating it daily. Actually, if it was my phone, I would test roms out for a week or two, but it's a no go here : I will have to find the right one right away or she won't be happy !
So what is the best, stable, fast, fully-functional 4.0 ROM out there ? If such thing doesn't exist yet and if I should wait a while, tell me. I'll wait.
Thanks !
the latest 4.0.4 is quite ok, have u tried it?
I think you should ask jj doctor to give you an old jj hyrid rom. Its aosp and stable.Or wait some more time when he relese the final version for 3.0 ROM
Hi, I think this is what you need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516508
Regards
varben said:
Hi, I think this is what you need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516508
Regards
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I second that.