Hello everybody,
I know that the scene is working really hard making and porting ROMS for the NT, now that CM7 (ALPHA) is out... I'm curious if is a CHANCE or light in the future to use a micro USB/HDMI output to be able to connect the tablet to a HD TV using MHL.
PS: Is the CM7 KERNEL capable of mounting or recognize keyboards, gamepads etc etc with micro USB port.
apavoratiago said:
Hello everybody,
I know that the scene is working really hard making and porting ROMS for the NT, now that CM7 (ALPHA) is out... I'm curious if is a CHANCE or light in the future to use a micro USB/HDMI output to be able to connect the tablet to a HD TV using MHL.
PS: Is the CM7 KERNEL capable of mounting or recognize keyboards, gamepads etc etc with micro USB port.
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I'm pretty sure that video output would require some hardware support, soas far as I know that won't be possible.
I don't know about using the USB for external devices, but if they ever figure out the "magic number" it should be possible via Bluetooth.
apavoratiago said:
Hello everybody,
I know that the scene is working really hard making and porting ROMS for the NT, now that CM7 (ALPHA) is out... I'm curious if is a CHANCE or light in the future to use a micro USB/HDMI output to be able to connect the tablet to a HD TV using MHL.
PS: Is the CM7 KERNEL capable of mounting or recognize keyboards, gamepads etc etc with micro USB port.
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MHL is pretty cool .But AFAIK Nook does not have a HDMI out function. B&N would've advertised the **** out of this feature , coz it would have been a great advertising feature .IIRC most 7" tabs lack video output .
USB OTG has not been described as a feature and seems very unlikely .
If the bluetooth module (present but disabled) is unlocked and drivers installed , then BT keyboards, gamepads possible in the distant future .
Hav fun
Gwindli said:
I'm pretty sure that video output would require some hardware support, soas far as I know that won't be possible.
I don't know about using the USB for external devices, but if they ever figure out the "magic number" it should be possible via Bluetooth.
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It is possible to pipe the display signal with software plugin and rebuild in PC via normal USB connector. It works in PSP.
Can someone send me the internal zip for cm7 please
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scotthall1515 said:
Can someone send me the internal zip for cm7 please
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This would be awesome.
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Have any possibiliti to make hdmi for x10, from arc sources and implement via micro usb like in nokia? In service menu also have hdmi?
I am Zulea, past developer of unlocking tools. You know USB Smart, but now I am out.
Sorry.
I also think the same micro usb to hdmi i asked this before i asked this but didnt get the ansnwer.
galaxy s can do this.
Caan our developers impliment this???
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This would be awesome, we have some great devs here, if anyone can its them!
I think that can BE DEVELOPED!
Zulea said:
I think that can BE DEVELOPED!
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Go for it!
need ask azuzu zdihu doomloard....
that would really be great!
And I think they also could implement USB OTG for x10..
we'll see what the devs gonna do!
Really great will be. Time will show.....
Someone sent this to all devs
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kalack93 said:
that would really be great!
And I think they also could implement USB OTG for x10..
we'll see what the devs gonna do!
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you are talking like everything is possible with x10(like quadcore).not that i dont like to have HDMI,but its very very unlikly
(dont get me wrong brother)
Anyone know any dev to show him this?....
Every dev most likely already "thought" about this many times, but this is a dream, it could be possible to get somehow a video output using usb or even the phone connector, yes it would be possible, but that would be a very poor output, because they would have to remap somehow a software encoder inside the phone to redirect data using USB or phone connector and connected in the usb or phone would have to be an adapter that would again translate the information in some vga, A/V, RGB, or at max S-Video, nothing like HDMI could ever happen as there is no such hardware for this built inside x10.
Don't dream on this guys, this is not like something that you can build on drivers.
Here goes an example of things that may be developed in future for x10:
Mass storage like pen drive(connecting a pen drive in the phone directly)
Mouse, keyboard and other input stuf.
Further undervolt and overclocks.
Multitouch, real multitouch(no dual touch as it is now with axis issue)
This may be developed sooner, and only maybe...
HDMI is too far from possible, not impossible though, but yet they would have to find a hardware in the phone to use for that which i don't really know if there is such a thing in x10, but i doubt.
@ all dev...
Is it possible to use USB OTG...?? like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224676
Or
Live Dock support for x10??
any hope..
This would be amazing but highly unlikely. I just don't think the X10 has the necessary hardware to push HD video out of the USB controller. The only thing I would add is there is a HDMI section in the Service Menu. I don't know if that would help us but it's a place to start.
@xpaa thanks for the interesting link.
My wife's Samsung Infuse 4G came with the hdmi adapter and my first thought was, "How the heck would you get HDMI speed out of a USB anyway?"
i also try so many ways to share my videos and photos on TV via Hdmi out .. even i found some suitable cables for X10 which was selling for that aims. try to search vivaz audio video cable , it is working like output from audio jack , in vivaz it shows videos but in x10 only audio no video , but it is possible via Wi fi share photos and videos on TV
About Live Dock to regret it doesnt support X10 ( only neo , arc , arc s , pro ) as i know
It is my understanding that android natively supports usb. My question is, if I get a micro usb to usb adapter, and then plug in a usb keyboard, I would be able to use the keyboard to type documents. Any thoughts?
(I have a rooted nook, but I got the update before I could block them, will revert back soon)
currently no. The android or in this case nook skinned android kernel has to support usb host and usb keyboard inputs which it doesn't. But it probably will in the future when the devs release android 4.0, because ICS needs a different kernel then the current nook tablet kernel. But anyway what keyboard do you have, because you can only connect bluetooth keyboards and also only if the developers can enable bluetooth on the nook.
It also depends on the hardware support. I don't know if the TI chip has a host-only port, or if it supports OTG (On-The-Go) dual mode operation. It probably does, but I've not seen anybody verify that.
it doesn't support USB keyboards. I have a female USB to micro USB for my galaxy S2. I tried to get a USB sick and 2.4GHz mouse and keyboard on the nook but nothing worked, and yes it both works on my galaxy with the stock ROM
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The NT can support usb gadgets and usb hubs but it need to be enabled in the rom and the must have the module, the NC has this feature and i hope our great devs can implement this on the NT.
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im looking to use a usb 3g modem myself with my tablet ,
ive read a bit on the latest engadget article about the other older e paper nook that was done with a usb keyboard i even went as far as to contact the guy who did it and he told me what to look for , hardware wise to see if the NT could do it ,
yet without kernel support or the module being compiled into the kernel we have already on the tablet , theres not much hope , but i believe it can and will be done , if not im gonna have to get an ipad with a 3g data card in it cause i have to have data access wifi hotspots just not cutting it..
sorry i posted this under an irratating name and didnt find the button to edit the topic title
m trying to set up a desktop like experience with the xperia s, im just in the beginning and have upgraded the phone to the newest hardware.
what im trying to do is in no particular order
1) connect the x S to a preferably vga monitor
2) connect the x S to a powered USB HUB (with at least mouse and keyboard)
is it possible to have a USB HUB running with the devices and at the same time charge the phone?
3) install Ubuntu on the phone
obviously it should work 1 & 2 & 3 at the same time
maybe someone knows which problems i may encounter?
thanks in advance for answering
1) No, HDMI only
2) No, you can't charge a hub master from the hub
3) Installing Ubuntu is possible with chroot, but it will be slow.
K900 said:
1) No, HDMI only
2) No, you can't charge a hub master from the hub
3) Installing Ubuntu is possible with chroot, but it will be slow.
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i think your only right with your second point
konsch said:
i think your only right with your second point
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No. The Xperia S doesn't have VGA outputs (obviously) and chrooted Ubuntu will not have hardware acceleration for the UI (well, for anything) because there are no Adreno X drivers, therefore it will fall back to vesa (software) which, combined with Unity, will be SLOW.
K900 said:
No. The Xperia S doesn't have VGA outputs (obviously) and chrooted Ubuntu will not have hardware acceleration for the UI (well, for anything) because there are no Adreno X drivers, therefore it will fall back to vesa (software) which, combined with Unity, will be SLOW.
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dont you think one can use a micro hdmi vga adapter??
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dont you think one can use a micro hdmi vga adapter??
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Basically, VGA is analog, HDMI is digital. You'll need a converter to do that, not a simple cable.
K900 said:
Basically, VGA is analog, HDMI is digital. You'll need a converter to do that, not a simple cable.
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ok thanks for your insight so it is easier with a dvi monitor i guess?
is there a linux system which works without chroot??
konsch said:
ok thanks for your insight so it is easier with a dvi monitor i guess?
is there a linux system which works without chroot??
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It is not easier because HDMI and DVI formats are not compatible. And no, there's no native Linux on Qcom devices. Even if we were to build a native system, it wouldn't have any graphics acceleration.
1. use a hdmi screen
2. best bet is to use the Sony Livedock and connect a wireless keyboard/mouse combo that works from one usb dongle. (i use this http://www.staples.co.uk/technology...yboards-and-mice/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400), works like a charm.
3. not sure, sorry. i know there is a way of running some sort of windows 95 emulator or something, but don't know about any linux dist.
my setup is hdmi out to my hdmi projector with logitech k400 conntected via livedock, so the phone can charge while i'm using it for things like internet browsing/long emails etc. also if you need to connect more devices, like a separate dongle for mouse.keyboard and maybe usb flash drive and usb controller at the same time, you can use a usb hub connected to the live dock. i use a non powered one and can connect my logitech k400, an xbox controller (wired) and a usb microsd reader at the same time).
hope that helps.
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It is not easier because HDMI and DVI formats are not compatible.
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As far as I am aware they are for video - no audio on DVI.
I have a DVI to HDMI cable connecting my media center pc to my tv and another one connecting the HDMI on my sky+ box with the DVI on a monitor?
Si
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simonf7 said:
As far as I am aware they are for video - no audio on DVI.
I have a DVI to HDMI cable connecting my media center pc to my tv and another one connecting the HDMI on my sky+ box with the DVI on a monitor?
Si
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I don't think the format the Xperia S uses is DVI compatible.
I thought we can install ubuntu as a virtual machine in android. It slow but bearable.
The crooth thinggy if not mistaken is an emulator, so it is slower.
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darth5zaft said:
I thought we can install ubuntu as a virtual machine in android. It slow but bearable.
The crooth thinggy if not mistaken is an emulator, so it is slower.
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No. Chroot (CHange ROOT) is a way to run Linux on an Android kernel, which is as fast computationally as a native boot.
K900 said:
I don't think the format the Xperia S uses is DVI compatible.
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It is compatible. I have a cheapo HDMI to DVI adaptor that I use to connect the cable that came with the phone to my DVI only monitor and it works as it should.
Basically, I want to connect a Microsoft webcam to my SGP 4.0, and probably using a custom made .apk, just record the video from the webcam. No preview display or anything.
My plan so far is to wait until TeamSuperNova finishes their ICS for the 4.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1712668
And I already have the webcam and I ordered a USB host-mode cable from Amazon (not sure if I would still need that with ICS though).
So the plan is to connect the webcam to the 4.0 with the cable, but I'm just curious if you guys think it'll work, or if any experiments have already been done in this field. I have seen the video of a webcam running on the Nexus, but I really dont care about a preview, just recording. Imagine the most ghetto Go-Pro possible, that's what I'm shooting for.
Thanks guys
no suggestions/ tips/ etc?
Frogman9 said:
no suggestions/ tips/ etc?
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Make sure you can get it working with desktop Linux. That'll give you the added benefit of knowing what driver it needs. From there you can find/port a program that'll read your /dev/video* devices, something like gstreamer, ffmpeg, mencoder, or an Andriod app.
jlyo said:
Make sure you can get it working with desktop Linux. That'll give you the added benefit of knowing what driver it needs. From there you can find/port a program that'll read your /dev/video* devices, something like gstreamer, ffmpeg, mencoder, or an Andriod app.
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thanks for the help bro, also, why do i need a linux system? how does that show me what driver it uses?
Frogman9 said:
thanks for the help bro, also, why do i need a linux system? how does that show me what driver it uses?
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Because Android is a Linux system, though the userspace is mostly different. You don't necessarily need to have a Linux system, but I imagine it'd be harder to do Android work on another system. Though chances are good that you'd be able to do it on another kind of UNIX, such as Mac OS X being the most popular.
jlyo said:
Because Android is a Linux system, though the userspace is mostly different. You don't necessarily need to have a Linux system, but I imagine it'd be harder to do Android work on another system. Though chances are good that you'd be able to do it on another kind of UNIX, such as Mac OS X being the most popular.
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okay, this makes sense, but what about using eclipse? that can handle android development and all, so would i be able to determine the driver using windows/ eclipse? and also do those terminal commands and such you also posted?
ps: sorry for my ignorance, the best ive done in android so far is a fallout soundboard....
Frogman9 said:
Basically, I want to connect a Microsoft webcam to my SGP 4.0, and probably using a custom made .apk, just record the video from the webcam. No preview display or anything.
My plan so far is to wait until TeamSuperNova finishes their ICS for the 4.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1712668
And I already have the webcam and I ordered a USB host-mode cable from Amazon (not sure if I would still need that with ICS though).
So the plan is to connect the webcam to the 4.0 with the cable, but I'm just curious if you guys think it'll work, or if any experiments have already been done in this field. I have seen the video of a webcam running on the Nexus, but I really dont care about a preview, just recording. Imagine the most ghetto Go-Pro possible, that's what I'm shooting for.
Thanks guys
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I bought a USB OTG cable for my Nexus and it worked perfectly. I then tried it on my 5.0 and it didn't work. I think USB host mode is not compatible with the player range (the 5.0 anyway) as the micro USB port is not powered. But who knows, maybe it works on the 4.0
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Frogman9 said:
okay, this makes sense, but what about using eclipse? that can handle android development and all, so would i be able to determine the driver using windows/ eclipse? and also do those terminal commands and such you also posted?
ps: sorry for my ignorance, the best ive done in android so far is a fallout soundboard....
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You can find out what driver you need (if it exists) from the camera's datasheet and some Googling. If you want to test it on a more well known platform before you test it on the device, that platform would be an x86_64 linux. It's just a good refernce is all, and would come in handy in case the plug and pray method doesn't work.
Those commands only coincidentally take the name of their project, of which I was referring. See:
* http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/
* http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html
* http://ffmpeg.org/
Supermaster34 said:
I bought a USB OTG cable for my Nexus and it worked perfectly. I then tried it on my 5.0 and it didn't work. I think USB host mode is not compatible with the player range (the 5.0 anyway) as the micro USB port is not powered. But who knows, maybe it works on the 4.0
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yeah i got the OTG cable too, and it didnt work with the 4.0, but I believe thats because its not getting powered due to the 4.0 not having true 4.0 host mode, which powers the usb, so either i splice in the required 3-5v in the usb line or i wait for Team SuperNova to complete their port of CM9 (4.0.4) for my player (the 5.0 actually already has it so you should be good to go).
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yeah i got the OTG cable too, and it didnt work with the 4.0, but I believe thats because its not getting powered due to the 4.0 not having true 4.0 host mode, which powers the usb, so either i splice in the required 3-5v in the usb line or i wait for Team SuperNova to complete their port of CM9 (4.0.4) for my player (the 5.0 actually already has it so you should be good to go).
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I tried it on my 5.0 running my CM9 rom, but no luck. I'm not sure if the player series supports USB Host seeing as the GT-I9000 does not have this feature. As far as I'm aware, USB Host started appearing on devices in the same generation as the GT-I9100 so about a year later.
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USB Host appears to be a kernel feature:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s-i9000-gains-usb-host-functionality/
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I tried it on my 5.0 running my CM9 rom, but no luck. I'm not sure if the player series supports USB Host seeing as the GT-I9000 does not have this feature. As far as I'm aware, USB Host started appearing on devices in the same generation as the GT-I9100 so about a year later.
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USB Host appears to be a kernel feature:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s-i9000-gains-usb-host-functionality/
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damn, i wonder if we need usb host mode, i mean if its powered externally with 3-5v, and then the proper drivers are installed in a custom app, wouldnt we be able to at least display what the camera sees?
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damn, i wonder if we need usb host mode, i mean if its powered externally with 3-5v, and then the proper drivers are installed in a custom app, wouldnt we be able to at least display what the camera sees?
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kinda a side question, but do you guys think this app would work with a galaxy player 4.0?http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22884164&postcount=3
i dont know much about android, but as far as i know, as long as its android, it might be able to run, right? does the transformer use jellybean? < thats probably where my idea would fall flat if it does...
Hi,
does anybody know, whether USB OTG is supported by Desire X? I assume it is not supported by the stock system, but can I expect the support to be added by some custom system?
Regards,
Stepan
I don't want to make myself an idiot, but, what's USB OTG?
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Stereo8 said:
I don't want to make myself an idiot, but, what's USB OTG?
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It stands for USB on the go. It is the ability of the phone to act as USB host. So that you can connect a USB flash drive, keyboard, or mouse... to the phone.
There is an app in Google Play that allows to check your phone's capability of USB OTG or USB Host Mode, but I couIdn't test it with my Desire X, because I don't have any USB peripherals with a micro-usb connector. The app only says there are "classes" found (don't ask me what that means) that seem to support it. I couldn't see anything in the manual about it either.
The One X doesn't even have USB OTG with the kernel it uses now, but they might enable it in a future kernel update (read that somewhere).
Your best bet is to contact HTC support and ask them straight out.
I tested the app.
The Kernel is not supporting USB Hosting. (It`s only a Software issue, i think)
Hopefully the update will bring this feature.
S4 Play on MSM8225 doesn't support OTG. Just go on Qualcomm site and you can see it.
A bit late....
Hahaha I am a bit late on this one, but all aspects of USB OTG are functional on the Desire X w/ stock and some custom roms. This includes storage, keyboard/mouse, gamepads and much much more. Works flawlessly, and better than the Nexus 7 2013 on Stock can manage (no usb storage support!) One of the reasons I switched to CM 11 on my Nexus.
Chipotleez said:
Hahaha I am a bit late on this one, but all aspects of USB OTG are functional on the Desire X w/ stock and some custom roms. This includes storage, keyboard/mouse, gamepads and much much more. Works flawlessly, and better than the Nexus 7 2013 on Stock can manage (no usb storage support!) One of the reasons I switched to CM 11 on my Nexus.
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The thing is, USB OTG works only from Android version 4.1 and newer. 4.0 has no OTG support.
dansou901 said:
The thing is, USB OTG works only from Android version 4.1 and newer. 4.0 has no OTG support.
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Yeah, I forgot to mention that :silly:
How come when I try to connect a ps3 controller it doesn't work but USB storage does work.
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filipcar said:
How come when I try to connect a ps3 controller it doesn't work but USB storage does work.
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I think that you dont have the drivers.
Google it.