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I'm looking a bit more at rooting via manual nooter on OS 1.4.1.
As of now, the Android Market is not working
In my hands, the BN shop is also not working. Books cannot be downloaded. (The reader does work, though, so you can shop and then download to your PC, then push the files in manually if you like.)
Together, those two elements not working argue against rooting 1.4.1 for anything other than study and development, I think.
- 1.4.1 installs on a device which had already been rooted (this device is rooted but not overclocked.)
- boot from a manual nooter 4-5-18 disks works
- after applying MN 4.5.18 and the APK enabler, the device booted. Root was retained and SU works fine (I was able to use adb wireless)
- install via ADB works
Other things to be aware of:
- this is not a Gingerbread release for the NC.
- the home button behavior is changed a LOT. Home Catcher for the Nook Tablet will also work here, though.
- the device automagically snarfs Google contacts if it's registered to a gmail address, it seems. There is no warning on that. I think that behavior is a Big Effing Problem.
About to try hopefully it works. I know I couldnt install update on 1.3 with CWM going back to complete stock and then update and then MN.
Yes, if CWR is written to your boot, you cannot install BN updates.
It might be possible to use a flashable 1.3 installer to write only /boot, reboot, then update to 1.4.1. I know there is a flashable 1.3, but I do not know where it lives.
roustabout said:
Yes, if CWR is written to your boot, you cannot install BN updates.
It might be possible to use a flashable 1.3 installer to write only /boot, reboot, then update to 1.4.1. I know there is a flashable 1.3, but I do not know where it lives.
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Yeah I went back to 1.3 stock and then to 1.4.1 update.
It would be nice if some one conforms about Market
"It would be if some one conforms about Market"
Yeah, wouldn't it?
I'm figuring from the lack of screaming it's probably working.
Market is up. Some apps still missing. Having a bit of problem with Zeam launcher. Nook launcher is taking control.
Straight from my ICS i897 Sonic Screwdriver!!!!!
So from a rooted 1.3.1 you:
Use CWM to install a vanilla 1.3 ROM, then update to 1.4.1 via B&N download, then root using only 4.5.18? I seem to remember to root 1.3.1 you needed to root with 4.5.16 and then 4.5.18.
I have been able to use 4-5-18 without any problems on both 1.2 and 1.3.
You may not even need to install the vanilla ROM - you may well be able to install to a rooted device, so long as you have not meddled with /boot, either by installing a CWR boot internally or by overclocking.
My fast experiment this morning involved updating a rooted 1.3, then rooting that resulting 1.4.1.
Anyone check to see if it will still boot from an SD card, just want to confirm before update, but because it is still rootable I can always downgrade.
Edit: I am in the process of updating as I type this, I will post the results in case anyone else needs them.
tsukisan said:
Anyone check to see if it will still boot from an SD card, just want to confirm before update, but because it is still rootable I can always downgrade.
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Others have tested and confirmed, but that's not something they can change on this device with a software update anyway
Good to know, I hadn't seen it yet but my testing confirms this, thanks for the reply
MentalDragon said:
Market is up. Some apps still missing. Having a bit of problem with Zeam launcher. Nook launcher is taking control.
Straight from my ICS i897 Sonic Screwdriver!!!!!
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In my case the Market runs but it's totally useless: I can't see my apps, it doesn't find most of what I want to install and when it does I can't install anything (it just goes back to the Apps menu). So it totally sucks since the B&N market is really lame!
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So from a rooted 1.3.1 you:
Use CWM to install a vanilla 1.3 ROM, then update to 1.4.1 via B&N download, then root using only 4.5.18? I seem to remember to root 1.3.1 you needed to root with 4.5.16 and then 4.5.18.
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For whatever reason, many Nook Colors that come stock with 1.3 installed just bootloop if rooted with 4.6.16, even if rooted first with 4.5.18. I can confirm this with a new NC purchased for my girlfriend's mom. Runs OK if just rooted with 4.5.18, except for it having the ancient market. Haven't been able to update the market yet, though gmail will update itself.
Updated to 1.4.1 (had to return to stock 1.3 to install the update, even without CWM flashed), using homecatcher to overcome the new "n" button "feature", but market is hit and miss. Was able to download and install Astro, but Titanium Backup doesn't want to download and install. I'll try sideloading it later.
What's the new n button feature? Is it possible to make a flashable update, like with 1.2 and 1.3?
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What's the new n button feature? Is it possible to make a flashable update, like with 1.2 and 1.3?
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If you press it once, it brings up the B&N "dock" that used to be at the bottom of the screen. If you press it twice, it brings up the B&N launcher.
Correction, I thought I was able to download Astro from market, but apparently I didn't. Now I've got no way to sideload apps, which makes this pretty useless...
magicland said:
If you press it once, it brings up the B&N "dock" that used to be at the bottom of the screen. If you press it twice, it brings up the B&N launcher.
Correction, I thought I was able to download Astro from market, but apparently I didn't. Now I've got no way to sideload apps, which makes this pretty useless...
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ADB commands are your friend! Pretty much as long as you can enable ADB you can sideload with zero issues.
c0ldburn3r said:
ADB commands are your friend! Pretty much as long as you can enable ADB you can sideload with zero issues.
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I realize this, but this nook is a gift for my girlfriend's mom, who lives out of state, and I know there's no way she's going to sideload everything using ADB... I need to get her a working market, even if I've got to go back to 1.3 and disable the update.
Ended up using 4.5.18 on my stock 1.3 NC. ADB Sideloaded in the Kindle app and a couple others and used the Nook App Manager to drop icons out on the main stock launcher page. I was really looking to add teh Kindle app so I could read all my purchased books on a single device, so I'm quite content. I'd like to see better market, etc but it's not a dealbreaker for me.
Just in case someone follows this thread, rooted 1.4.1 is working well now. manualnooter-5-12-18.zip does it for ya.
Market works. You can add non-B&N apps to the B&N app and home screens using Nook Color App Manager. Putting the Kindle app on there is no problem. Netflix, HBO GO and Max GO work. Hulu Plus refuses to run on the device. B&N subscriptions download and update the dock. B&N enhanced content (e.g. Wired magazine) work fine.
If non-techie friends and family want an enhanced B&N Nook Walled Garden experience, this will do it!
My nook updated to 1.4.1 last night, breaking my market access. I'm pretty disappointed, but I was wondering what the best step would be to take next... I'm considering either a 1.4.0 reset and just reroot + block OTA (which I neglected to do obviously) or install the new snowball mod that's popping up. Some people seem to like snowball mod, but others are complaining that it's making apps force close (which already seems to be a problem with the root in general).
I have apps and books on it already, but I'm sure I could just regrab them. I've only had the nook since christmas, and I've been on vacation most of the time. Just installed a **** ton of games and grabbed some books (nothing off BN store).
Also, would the snowball mod (which supposedly removes all B&N functionality) make the reader aspect lack at all? Does the nook app on the android marketplace work the same as the nook's default reader?
tldr: reroot or install snowball mod after nook updated to 1.4.1?
Mine did the same thing some time in the last day. I just want to get it back to 1.4.0.
I have the same problem. I rooted my tablet a couple weeks ago. The root thread said that it would stop OTA updates, and I believed it. Unfortunately, whatever they said was blocking OTA didn't work and now I have 1.41.
s10corey said:
Mine did the same thing some time in the last day. I just want to get it back to 1.4.0.
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i got to to go back just fine after using the "magic sd" method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402190
well here's what happened...
i got it back to 1.4.0 using the magic sd method, but it was still using the old honeycomb launcher from my previous root. i formatted and deregistered, then applied snowball mod. i don't like it at all... the widgets don't seem fully functional right now, and some apps don't even run when you start them up, SPECIFICALLY THE B&N APP FOR ANDROID. if you want any ereader functionality, stay away from snowball.
if anyone knows an e-reader app similar to the nook app, please post. i'm going to stick with snowball now just for functionality and testing, but i would really appreciate some kind of answer.
1000cleverlines said:
i got to to go back just fine after using the "magic sd" method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402190
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This worked for me, but the N button didn't work afterward so I was forced to hard reset and then everything worked fine.
I restored mine to 1.4.0 by the Nook Tablet restore file and then went to root my NK again.
Everything is fine but I can not get NookandZergy to copy files. I get failures on copying files and also denials to chmod commands. I'm still feeling that there has to be a law against B&N changing MY DEVICE! OTAO took me out.
mtelesha said:
I restored mine to 1.4.0 by the Nook Tablet restore file and then went to root my NK again.
Everything is fine but I can not get NookandZergy to copy files. I get failures on copying files and also denials to chmod commands. I'm still feeling that there has to be a law against B&N changing MY DEVICE! OTAO took me out.
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Check to make sure you have the right drivers loaded in Windows device manager and you have the settings correct on the Nook Settings.
Ok so here is the deal. I successfully did the zergrush script (did not know about the 1 click root apk). Either way that was successful, I had installed the market, a lot of google apps and gave it back to the person. Then they decided to install the amazon app store and chose app installer instead of package installer. That messed up apk installations for everything it seemed. During the zerg rush script, it gave me the option to make the "n" button a dedicated home key button, and so I had done that. After I did a factory restore, it remained the homekey button, and now I cannot find the browser or anything, I don't know how to bring up the browser what so ever. I can seemingly access everything else in the 1.4.0 install that it gives me. Unfortunately adb is not working, I can't seem to get the <!>Nook Tablet in the device manager anymore, no matter how many times I try to force and remove the default USB Mass Storage it installs.
Basically i seemed to have screwed myself. Using various search results in both the android development thread and this thread didn't seem to yield results for anyone else dealing with this issue. If anyone can lend me a hand or point me in the right direction, or even show me a thread that someone is dealing with this issue also, that would be fantastic. Thanks community!
Also, I used the script that doesn't allow OTA updates, so it seems the sdcard load acclaim_update.zip doesn't work either.
Well... I have successfully been able to force the 1.4.1 update back onto the device, which has given me "n" menu access. Now I will reattempt to revert back to 1.4.0 and root again.
My error was that I was putting the 1.4.1 update onto the sdcard instead of onto the nook partition.
Hello,
I have a rooted NT on 1.4.1 and this morning it seems the the OTA block did not function because it upgraded to 1.4.2 on it own.
It doens't seem to have affected the root so far, but I haven't explored everthing.
When I click on the NT Hidden settings OTA block i have a message stating :
Missing /system/bin/su
What can I do to block any further ota upgrades. When I rooted I am preety sure that I had made sure that OTA were blocked...
Thanks.
Nathalie
same here
I also looked at my rooted tablet today and it said the 1.4.2 OTA installed.
I had rooted from 1.4.1 using the SD card method.
I had run the OTA blocker but still got 1.4.2
It did not appear to break the root but I had limited time to check things.
Hoping to hear others comments on this issue.
And looking for a OTA block that works.
I tried titanium back-up block at one time but had issues, might just try it again.
This is bummer news. I was hoping I was done with the B&N BS.
install cm7 if you can. It works nice and unlocks the mic
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You can root 1.4.2 with any "Root Card" method.
michaelkthx said:
install cm7 if you can. It works nice and unlocks the mic
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I'm sticking with a rooted 1.4.0 for now. The issue is that I've read the B&N stock apps don't work on CM7. You could download the B&N app from the Market but it doens't have the same functionallity. Some who subscribe to magazines have reported they can't view their subscriptions on the B&N Market app. It seems to be an issue that depends on the magazine as some are OK and some aren't.
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I'm sticking with a rooted 1.4.0 for now. The issue is that I've read the B&N stock apps don't work on CM7. You could download the B&N app from the Market but it doens't have the same functionallity. Some who subscribe to magazines have reported they can't view their subscriptions on the B&N Market app. It seems to be an issue that depends on the magazine as some are OK and some aren't.
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None of my magazines are accessible through any B&N Market app (Time, SI, GQ, etc.), but I thought rooting still allows you to access all the vanilla B&N content in addition to Market apps?
EDIT: Whoops, missed the part about CM7. Yes, a different ROM doesn't access the B&N stock apps, as I understand it.
So what should i do because, it seems that i have lost android market, it is asking for a new account. And the email and talk do not work either...
I am kinda lost here because i do not want to brick my NT...
Any suggestions?
Nathalie0226 said:
So what should i do because, it seems that i have lost android market, it is asking for a new account. And the email and talk do not work either...
I am kinda lost here because i do not want to brick my NT...
Any suggestions?
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The OTA has removed your root access. Which in turn means you can no longer use the packages installed after the root process. Basically refer back to GabrialDestruir's post where he said the 'root card' methods should still work fine. Your best bet IMO is to either install internally, or use an sdcard version of CWM recovery and if you want stock, download and install one of the stock flashable roms in the development section. Else install CM7. Or stay on 1.4.2, your call.
Know-Fear said:
The OTA has removed your root access. Which in turn means you can no longer use the packages installed after the root process. Basically refer back to GabrialDestruir's post where he said the 'root card' methods should still work fine. Your best bet IMO is to either install internally, or use an sdcard version of CWM recovery and if you want stock, download and install one of the stock flashable roms in the development section. Else install CM7. Or stay on 1.4.2, your call.
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I'm running 1.4.2 and it's all nicely rooted, you just have to used a "Root Card" aka a card which by whatever means adds all sorts of root glory to your device. There are like two or three of these that actually exist for the Nook Tablet, choose one burn the sdcard and follow the instructions and you get a functioning stock root device.
GabrialDestruir said:
I'm running 1.4.2 and it's all nicely rooted, you just have to used a "Root Card" aka a card which by whatever means adds all sorts of root glory to your device. There are like two or three of these that actually exist for the Nook Tablet, choose one burn the sdcard and follow the instructions and you get a functioning stock root device.
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I am trying to get mine to update to 1.4.2, so I can get the fixes from 1.4.1 mainly...and plan to use a root card after the update. But I cannot get mine to update after having done the OTA block. I manually downloaded the update and dropped it in the root of my nt, and its been hours and it hasent applies any update and still says version 9.9.9
GabrialDestruir said:
I'm running 1.4.2 and it's all nicely rooted, you just have to used a "Root Card" aka a card which by whatever means adds all sorts of root glory to your device. There are like two or three of these that actually exist for the Nook Tablet, choose one burn the sdcard and follow the instructions and you get a functioning stock root device.
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So GabrialDestruir, I initially used Albert Wertz root method using an sd card.
Should I re-root my NT using the same method as it is right now or should I un-root it prior rooting it again.
It's not that clear for me yet how I should proceed.
Thanks.
LivDoug said:
I am trying to get mine to update to 1.4.2, so I can get the fixes from 1.4.1 mainly...and plan to use a root card after the update. But I cannot get mine to update after having done the OTA block. I manually downloaded the update and dropped it in the root of my nt, and its been hours and it hasent applies any update and still says version 9.9.9
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If I'm not mistaken, if your version says 9.9.9, it won't update.
*Sorry to the OP for the hijack*
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does this work on 1.4.2?
i forgot to block OTA when i was at 1.4.1 and it automatically updated to 1.4.2 now...
Hi, y'all. So I rooted my Nook Tablet awhile ago...I bought it in November 2011, I think, and I rooted it shortly thereafter using Indirect's method. It has been working great until the last 3 days. I am able to download books, but when I try and download apps (even from the B&N appstore), they always fail. I have gotten the following two messages. I tried googling solutions, but I only came across others with the same problem suggesting that you update to 1.4.3, which I will obviously not be doing since I will lose the functionality. Here are the errors:
Sorry! The application DeviceManagerService (process com.bn.devicemanager) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again. Then there's a button to force close.
The second is: Sorry! The application DownloadAdmin (process com.bn.nook.dadmin) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again. There's a button after that to force close.
Also, when the downloads fail it says it is because I may not have enough space for them, but there are like 10 gb left, so not sure what the problem is.
Anyone else experiencing this? I tried reinstalling the .apk files from Titanium Backup but it didn't help. Thanks!
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Also, when the downloads fail it says it is because I may not have enough space for them, but there are like 10 gb left, so not sure what the problem is.
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FWIW I've run into this "not enough space" type of error when I downloaded those apps that expect to store their data on the external SDcard while I didn't have a card in the SDcard slot.
digixmax said:
FWIW I've run into this "not enough space" type of error when I downloaded those apps that expect to store their data on the external SDcard while I didn't have a card in the SDcard slot.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I have a 32 gb SD card inserted, so that can't be the problem, either. That's why this is so frustrating!
Great. Now when I just restarted it, it is showing that it is back to software version 1.4.0 from 9.9.9. All I did was reinstall the devicemanager and download admin files; would this have somehow unrooted it?
Well, if root has been broken, can't you just root it again?
And if root is broken, you can also update to 1.4.3 before re-rooting, should you want to.
asawi said:
Well, if root has been broken, can't you just root it again?
And if root is broken, you can also update to 1.4.3 before re-rooting, should you want to.
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Yes, I can re-root it, it's just a time consuming process with my ancient PC.
If I update it to 1.4.3, won't that block the ability to root it?
Nope, 1.4.3 roots fine with both Brian's and Albert's sd-card methods. (And probably any others as well, but those are the ones I have tried.)
Surely it can't be that time consuming, regardless of the age of your PC? Albert's card is under 100MB to download and then burn to SD. (Brian's is bigger.)
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Nope, 1.4.3 roots fine with both Brian's and Albert's sd-card methods. (And probably any others as well, but those are the ones I have tried.)
Surely it can't be that time consuming, regardless of the age of your PC? Albert's card is under 100MB to download and then burn to SD. (Brian's is bigger.)
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Are there any benefits to updating it to 1.4.3 if I plan to root again?
If you are running stock there were some bug fixes in the updated firmwares. Personally I would not run stock below 1.4.2.
If you plan to run for example CM10 the firmware doesn't matter.
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Thanks! Good to know about the firmware not mattering. Sounds like updating the software and then redoing the root is the way to go, even though it took forever last time.
How can I revert to 1.4.0 and start factory fresh with my NT?
Ok, please bear with me. I'm a noob, so don't know all the technical lingo for this stuff, so I hope what I'm saying will make sense. I was able to update to 1.4.3, but that took away the ability to use the Nook Color App Manager, which I love, because it kept all the apps on the Nook's stock screen, instead of having to switch to a different screen. I would like to try and remove 1.4.3 and go back to 1.4.0 (I also liked the ability to still have access to the in-store experience, and I haven't been to a B&N to see if that is still available with this root version). I tried using the process from Adam Outler to revert to 1.4.0, but it didn't work, and is still showing it is version 1.4.3, so not sure what I'm doing wrong. Is there a way to just remove 1.4.3? Somehow, when I ran the process to revert to 1.4.0, it reset my device like it should have, but it still seems to be rooted without the root ability (all the apps I have downloaded from Google Play are showing they are installed, but I can't access them from my NT and can't reinstall them). I'm guessing I need to re-root (I have down it twice, but then undone it trying to get back to 1.4.0). So...long story short, I think I'd just like to run whatever needs to be run to take my NT back to factory settings when it was first released in 2011 with 1.4.0. I have been searching for that, but just seem to find the same things I have tried. Can anyone please help with this? Thanks!
This is the thread I have followed most recently about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35089620
The repart.img that is mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663836 will take you back to out of the box stock 1.4.0
You will loose everything you will to root again if you run it.
Great, thanks! Sounds like it is just what I was looking for.
asawi said:
The repart.img that is mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663836 will take you back to out of the box stock 1.4.0
You will loose everything you will to root again if you run it.
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For some reason, it took it back to 1.4.2 rather than 1.4.0, but I'm guessing that 1.4.0 may no longer be available? At any rate, I got it re-rooted and it was still having the problems, so I just went ahead and re-updated to 1.4.3 and re-rooted, so thanks for your help!
Well, 1.4.2 is better than 1.4.0 anyway, so no problem there I guess!
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For some reason, it took it back to 1.4.2 rather than 1.4.0, but I'm guessing that 1.4.0 may no longer be available? At any rate, I got it re-rooted and it was still having the problems, so I just went ahead and re-updated to 1.4.3 and re-rooted, so thanks for your help!
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Did going to 1.4.3 and rerooting solve your problem? My Mother's NT is running a rooted 1.4.2 which I did ages ago, but recently on boot the BN downloader (or something to that effect) crashes and she can't download any BN apps because of it. She's also getting the out of space error you described.
I'm trying to convince her to switch to CM10.1 (which I did to my tablet not so long ago), but she refuses to do so until I can prove to her it's stable (personally I think the official RC is way more stable than the hodge podge that is the Nook OS any day, but she doesn't believe me since she's heard me complaining of the battery draining recently.) Either way I'd love to get her up and going again so she can go back to using it.
FergyA said:
Did going to 1.4.3 and rerooting solve your problem? My Mother's NT is running a rooted 1.4.2 which I did ages ago, but recently on boot the BN downloader (or something to that effect) crashes and she can't download any BN apps because of it. She's also getting the out of space error you described.
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Yes! It sounds like she was getting the same errors I was getting, and it fixed the problem when I took it to 1.4.3. I just miss the nook color app manager that would allow stuff from the non-B&N market to appear on my home screen, but I've gotten used to the two home screens now, and it seems to work faster than before. One thing I will mention is that the above method asawi mentioned with the repart image frees up additional space on the nook. I think it must have re-partitioned it as part of installation (hence the name). Whereas before I had 11 gb for B&N storage and only 1 for "other" storage, after I did that update, it changed it so it was about 8 gb for B&N and 5 gb for "other." I liked that, as I don't have all that much stuff from B&N on my nook, but have more than 1 gb of other stuff, but your Mom may want to know how it affects her B&N storage.
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I'm trying to convince her to switch to CM10.1 (which I did to my tablet not so long ago), but she refuses to do so until I can prove to her it's stable (personally I think the official RC is way more stable than the hodge podge that is the Nook OS any day, but she doesn't believe me since she's heard me complaining of the battery draining recently.) Either way I'd love to get her up and going again so she can go back to using it.
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If you're looking for a stable version of CM10, Succulent's CM10.0 dated 12/31 http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/03/cm10-0-jelly-bean-for-nook-tablet-uploading/ is very stable and its battery-consumption is not noticeably different than that of stock ROM.