Will the apps on Android market work with CM9 alpha builds on photon? Are there any caveats?
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I run CM9 as a daily driver, mind you still no camera or 4g(obviously) and i have 100+ apps installed, most from market, and have had only one or two have issues or not work, and that was due to the fact that the app didnt support ICS. So in general yes the market and apps work fine as long as they support ICS.
Edit: I forgot to mention, the 2d and HW acceleration are still in the works, so it can be hit or miss on certain Alpha builds IF the app your trying to use, mainly games AFAIK, requires 2d HW accel.
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As I go through yet another build.prop market fix, I can't help but wonder: is there a build.prop market fix (or any kind of fix) that gives you the best of both worlds (all 2.x and 3.x apps are visible in the market, working Flash Player, runs 3.x apps and maybe even Netflix)? If not, anything close to it (I can live without running 3.x apps)?
P.S. - If possible, I prefer to stick with Froyo/2.2 since the display quality and video playback & hardware acceleration performance has been superior to 2.3.x and 3.x ROMs in my experiences so far.
HTC Vision gets Netflix good for GB. I also don't notice anything missing from the market. Guess you could use vegan 5.1.1 and throw in the Netflix patch and then mod build.prop and see what happens. Breaks YouTube app by the by but browser viewing still works peachy.
You can't run 3.0 (Honeycomb) code on 2.3 (Gingerbread) or 2.2 (Froyo).
No build.prop will ever give you that.
The build.prop is the properties of your build....ie what OS, manufacturer, some basic settings and such. Edits of it may allow you to see certain things in the Market but seeing them doesn't mean they will install or run.
If you want Netflix (and now Hulu Plus), CM7.03 stable is your best option. It also sees nearly everything that will function on the tablet in the Market.
I miss nothing from VEGAn5.1.1 now that I'm on CM7.03. I've gained a ton (better stability, WiFi location services, better market (no fixes needed) access, Netflix, etc...
I keep hearing CM 7.0.3 is the best option. It still doesn't have native Nvidia drivers, correct?
DiGiTY said:
I keep hearing CM 7.0.3 is the best option. It still doesn't have native Nvidia drivers, correct?
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That's correct, but they did add in some hardware acceleration code of their own to improve video playback. It's not perfect, but most videos seem to work pretty well for me.
Mantara said:
HTC Vision gets Netflix good for GB. I also don't notice anything missing from the market. Guess you could use vegan 5.1.1 and throw in the Netflix patch and then mod build.prop and see what happens. Breaks YouTube app by the by but browser viewing still works peachy.
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Worked like a charm... except [modded/patched] Netflix doesn't play video for me (it looks like its going to play, shows play/pause and seek control but goes back to the main screen almost immediately). No biggie, I rarely watch Netflix anyway.
I see everything in the market and all the T/HD games actually run. Thanks!
You can clear app data for netflix from manage apps then fix permissions with cwm. This fixes a lot of Netflix issues (chipmunk, slo-mo, bad banding)
DiGiTY said:
Worked like a charm... except [modded/patched] Netflix doesn't play video for me (it looks like its going to play, shows play/pause and seek control but goes back to the main screen almost immediately). No biggie, I rarely watch Netflix anyway.
I see everything in the market and all the T/HD games actually run. Thanks!
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Did you just change the device to HTC Vision? Or did you copy a complete build.prop from somewhere? Link?
Thank you!
I just changed it to HTC Vision in build.prop. Netflix also works now (from the Market).
Hi All,
I've been trying to figure out how to get my CM7 NT to stream Netflix in the HD quality of the stock Nook ROM.
I've tried several edits to the build.prop (ro.product.____ and ro.build.___), to no avail.
Are there any specific lines in the current CM7 Internal build.prop that prevent Netflix from streaming in HD, like how the NT comes originally? Or is it some other issue with the CM7 build? Has anybody on CM7 gotten this to work?
Many thanks in advance.
Unless there's been a development I'm not aware of as of right now, you can't, it has to do with the fact that hardware acceleration isn't fully supported in non Stock ROMs. In addition the stock app is believed to be coded differently for the hardware.
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Unless there's been a development I'm not aware of as of right now, you can't, it has to do with the fact that hardware acceleration isn't fully supported in non Stock ROMs. In addition the stock app is believed to be coded differently for the hardware.
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I wish that part about the stock app was true, but the stock app works identically to the version that you get in the Google Play store. Reinstalling the stock version on CM7 via Titanium Backup gets you the same low-quality video and delayed audio that you'd get on the downloaded app.
But hardware acceleration will be here, it's just taking a little while. We're very fortunate to have Rebellos, a recognized XDA developer, joining the new-kernel project. He says he plans to start contributing to the project in about a week.
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But hardware acceleration will be here, it's just taking a little while. We're very fortunate to have Rebellos, a recognized XDA developer, joining the new-kernel project. He says he plans to start contributing to the project in about a week.
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Ah, so it's a hardware acceleration issue then, rather than Netflix<-> build.prop device incompatibility? I thought that was done and fixed in the latest CM7 release?
Also stoked to have Rebellos on board.
i thought cm7 had full HW acceleration- and from using it vs using the rooted nook tablet it DOES play movies Better (i can play/stream a bluray.mp4 file on CM7 Fine, it stutters and hangs using the rooted nook(mx video player streaming over my wireless network for both examples) , it is CM9 that is having problem with the ducati timer conflict with backlight timer....the issue is the hd version of netflix if i remember correctly required the locked bootchain blah blah to get the hd version. not sure if that version will run on cm7 i just installed netflix from googlestore and use that.
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Ah, so it's a hardware acceleration issue then, rather than Netflix<-> build.prop device incompatibility? I thought that was done and fixed in the latest CM7 release?
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lenardo said:
i thought cm7 had full HW acceleration- and from using it vs using the rooted nook tablet it DOES play movies Better (i can play/stream a bluray.mp4 file on CM7 Fine, it stutters and hangs using the rooted nook(mx video player streaming over my wireless network for both examples) , it is CM9 that is having problem with the ducati timer conflict with backlight timer....the issue is the hd version of netflix if i remember correctly required the locked bootchain blah blah to get the hd version. not sure if that version will run on cm7 i just installed netflix from googlestore and use that.
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If that were true, I think we'd already have hardware acceleration in CM9. After all, it would mean that source code for a hardware-accelerated graphics driver on the Nook Tablet was available. The whole reason Rebellos is joining the project is because we lack said source code.
Celtic did fix a video performance bug in CM7, but as far as I know it was mainly related to video playback and decoding, not graphics drivers. I might be wrong about that (I'm not a developer myself, I just follow it closely) but that's what the situation looks like right now.
Like I said, there's no difference between the Google Play downloadable Netflix app and the one that comes with your Nook Tablet. The key difference is the underlying firmware - stock, for some reason, gets HD-quality and synced up sound while CM7 gets low-quality and delayed sound. I've been following this one issue closely since it's my one pet peeve with the custom firmware we've got available. Hopefully, though, the devs will sort it out. They all seem like competent and talented folks.
the problem is 99.9% of the universe apparently for cm9(ICS) uses gptimer 11 for ducati...and the backlight some other timer
the nook tablet -currently- HAS to run the backlight on.....gptimer 11, the devs- i believe- have found a ducati on a different timer and they are working on adapting it to run on the nook tablet, once that is fixed- the cm9 devs will progress faster
Right now I have my GTab running Cyanogen 7, which is a solid daily driver. However, it locks up when I try to set the internal memory as the primary device. More importantly, the VLC I have running is quite studdery on high quality movies and refuses to play some formats.
Most importantly to the rom I want running is Skype support. Video in and out, sound as well. I see a very limited number of Froyo roms with a Skype fix. Has this been brought to any other versions of android? Obviously I would prefer ICS with VLC and Skype, but I see the roms out do not support the camera.
Any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
Sounds like you will want to go with a Froyo rom for now to get what you want. I am sure they will get the camera working for ICS soon, but right now it's not working and who knows if Skype will work when it does. I like CM7 for it's stability but no HW acceleration means no HD video and poor gaming.
Since you are running CM7 are you on 1.1 or 1.2 bootloader? There is a new version of CM7 for the Gtablet, but I don't know if Skype works or not. My favorite Froyo rom for 1.2 is Beasty, very fast and stable. You can use any Froyo rom that doesn't include the Skype fix by flashing this kernel in CWM.
For better video playback in non Froyo roms, try MXPlayer. It can use software decoding that is optimized for ARM7 (Gtablet) so video playback is much better without working hardware acceleration. By the way where did you get VLC from?
Sorry for taking so long to reply. I'm going to flash Beasty when I get my hands on the tablet again. I'll apply the camera fix as well if need be. Any recommended tweaks to Beasty other than that upon a fresh install?
CM7 RC3 is out now as well, if Beasty isn't all it's cracked up to be I'll load it up. I'm kind of excited for Beasty though, looks great.
Also the VLC version I have is admittedly a little outdated, so I'll definitely be trying a new one. MXPlayer was studdery as well on my CM7 so I'll try on Beasty with overclock.
The same is thing is happening also with cm 9 . No picture just sound on Netflix .Anybody have any ideas for a fix?
Netflix will not work on the ICS ROMs at the moment. They have memory and graphic issues.
ics isnt even well supported on the dx's. stick with android 2.3! the differences are minor and everything works.
I knew that there are unsolved common problems like No fingerprint navigation or unlock, Builtin video camera dont work.
but what are the specific new issues, like new bugs/unstable/overheating/unworking features for Atrix on CM10?
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I knew that there are unsolved common problems like No fingerprint navigation or unlock, Builtin video camera dont work.
but what are the specific new issues, like new bugs/unstable/overheating/unworking features for Atrix on CM10?
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Hi.
CM10 with "that kernel" (2.6.39.4) = HWA, camcoder, fingerprint (all working) but the battery duration is very short and some devices overheat and has random reboots.
CM10 with GB Kernel (2.6.32.x) = HWA, camcoder, fingerprint (not working) but battery duration is very nice.
Greetings
Thank you!
I would also like to know if CM9 are having the same problems too, as I know HWA, camcoder and fingerprint are also not working for cm9. Thus it doesn't seem to have 'new' issues for CM10 at all.
And one side question. HWA is invented since Android 3.0 (API level 11), so Can I say even HWA cannot be enabled, the performance is still not worse than that of Android2.3.x version of Atrix due to that issue?
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Thank you!
I would also like to know if CM9 are having the same problems too, as I know HWA, camcoder and fingerprint are also not working for cm9. Thus it doesn't seem to have 'new' issues for CM10 at all.
And one side question. HWA is invented since Android 3.0 (API level 11), so Can I say even HWA cannot be enabled, the performance is still not worse than that of Android2.3.x version of Atrix due to that issue?
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Overall performance its very similar but not entirely. For example, HD video playback don't work fine than GB because we haven't properly libs to use the gpu decoding power, but the GUI its faster.
Greetings.
P/D: Sorry for my bad english, i'm Argentinian.
Also HDMI audio may not work..