Ok so I've looked and not really found a more specific reason to my question. Why do I have to SBF to stock 2.3.4 If I am running say liberty and want to go to cm7? I guess I'm confused as to why because they utilize the same kernel correct? Sorry probably a stupid question but just not understanding it
trafalger888 said:
Ok so I've looked and not really found a more specific reason to my question. Why do I have to SBF to stock 2.3.4 If I am running say liberty and want to go to cm7? I guess I'm confused as to why because they utilize the same kernel correct? Sorry probably a stupid question but just not understanding it
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You don't have to sbf. People like to sbf because its a "clean slate" I switch between eclipse 2.3.5 and cm7/miui all the time and haven't sbf'd in a week.
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You don't have to SBF unless you want to go back to stock, which includes if you've removed any bloatware, etc.
In the case of going from Liberty to CM7, you don't have to SBF since both are based off of the 2.3.4 kernel. You could just flash CM7 over your Liberty install.
However, if you are on 2.3.3, then you WILL have to sbf or apply an OTA update to get you to 2.3.4 since the kernels are different.
If you are on Eclipse 2.0.x, which is based off of 2.3.5, then you will have to SBF back to 2.3.4 before installing CM7, Liberty, Eclipse 1.3, etc.
In the end, you don't HAVE to sbf, but if you don't when going from a 2.3.5-based ROM to a 2.3.4-based ROM (or vice versa), then it's use at your own risk and don't blame the developer for any issues.
Thank you to both of you for the explination...sorry for the stupid question...the last phone I had was the original Droid that for obvious reason was a bit easier to do this with...my experience with the dx2 being locked is limited...I appreciate the help
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Thank you to both of you for the explination...sorry for the stupid question...the last phone I had was the original Droid that for obvious reason was a bit easier to do this with...my experience with the dx2 being locked is limited...I appreciate the help
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It wasn't a stupid question, most people don't understand this.
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iBolski said:
You don't have to SBF unless you want to go back to stock, which includes if you've removed any bloatware, etc.
In the case of going from Liberty to CM7, you don't have to SBF since both are based off of the 2.3.4 kernel. You could just flash CM7 over your Liberty install.
However, if you are on 2.3.3, then you WILL have to sbf or apply an OTA update to get you to 2.3.4 since the kernels are different.
If you are on Eclipse 2.0.x, which is based off of 2.3.5, then you will have to SBF back to 2.3.4 before installing CM7, Liberty, Eclipse 1.3, etc.
In the end, you don't HAVE to sbf, but if you don't when going from a 2.3.5-based ROM to a 2.3.4-based ROM (or vice versa), then it's use at your own risk and don't blame the developer for any issues.
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2.3.5 is basically the same as 2.3.4 though the roms based off 2.3.5 work fine if not better on 2.3.4 IMHO
Jubomime said:
It wasn't a stupid question, most people don't understand this.
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Im waiting for tho official motorola ota of gb...I've been lookin around and some treads say we shouldn't flash sbf or ota due to possible hard brick can someone clarify?
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Im waiting for tho official motorola ota of gb...I've been lookin around and some treads say we shouldn't flash sbf or ota due to possible hard brick can someone clarify?
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It's ironic because the official motorola OTA is the one that is giving everyone trouble. That is this one.
If you want to get gingerbread safely you will first need to install 2.3.4 with an unlocked bootloader, follow these directions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142674
You can now flash roms if you performed that successfully, I would recommend this one since it is safe and great:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159385
Cheers, pm me if you need help
The stock ota is safe if your not unlocked or anything.
But the stock ota motor has put something to prevent your from going to older sbf. The version kenneth has made is perfect. And still gives u stock rom with extras
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O ok thanks so sounds like kens version is the best way to go
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I have a related question:
Is the GingerBread 2.3.4 Motorola update out via OTA? I mean, "officially", so it can be installed on a stock unrooted unlocked Atrix. I read the update will be launch end of July.
Thanks in advance.
toddran1 said:
Im waiting for tho official motorola ota of gb...I've been lookin around and some treads say we shouldn't flash sbf or ota due to possible hard brick can someone clarify?
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You can brick your device if you are not on 1.83 before you flash gingerbread on your atrix....at least that is what I understand from it. You can't go from 1.26 to gingerbread, you have to go from 1.83 right to gingerbread. And you have to unlock your bootloader otherwise you might screw something up.
PS. Please check your grammar man. Unless you're from like France, take the time and type things the right way.
Infected24 said:
I have a related question:
Is the GingerBread 2.3.4 Motorola update out via OTA? I mean, "officially", so it can be installed on a stock unrooted unlocked Atrix. I read the update will be launch end of July.
Thanks in advance.
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nope! its out in an SBF file I believe. As of right now, you will have to root your device and install 1.83 before you can flash gingerbread on it...I haven't installed a rom on here in like a months so I've been outta the loop I guess
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You can brick your device if you are not on 1.83 before you flash gingerbread on your atrix....at least that is what I understand from it. You can't go from 1.26 to gingerbread, you have to go from 1.83 right to gingerbread. And you have to unlock your bootloader otherwise you might screw something up.
PS. Please check your grammar man. Unless you're from like France, take the time and type things the right way.
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It wont load at all with 1.2.6 but that's not what is causing bricks going from 2.3.4 to any older sbf with the stock ota is causing the bricks. Kenneth build you can go back,and is safe to use.
Infected24 said:
I have a related question:
Is the GingerBread 2.3.4 Motorola update out via OTA? I mean, "officially", so it can be installed on a stock unrooted unlocked Atrix. I read the update will be launch end of July.
Thanks in advance.
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No, its not out yet keep checking you updates wont be too much longer
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Infected24 said:
I have a related question:
Is the GingerBread 2.3.4 Motorola update out via OTA? I mean, "officially", so it can be installed on a stock unrooted unlocked Atrix. I read the update will be launch end of July.
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Motorola has given no date for GB release. End of July is only speculation.
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Although this is my first post, I have been reading hundreds of threads on this site for months now...
I know this post should be in the developer-related forums but being a newbie I am not allowed to post in that section.
My question is can that SBF be flashed over GingerBlur...here is what I am running with a LOCKED bootloader.
Version.4.1.83.MB860.ATT.en.US
Android 2.2.2
Baseband N_01.77.15P
Kernel 2.63.9-00007-g527fe10
Build GingerBlur 4
Please respond ASAP I just OTA Gingerbread onto my girlfriend's Atrix because she doesn't want to fool around with all this and am DYING to get my hands on a rooted, unlocked Gingerbread Atrix!
At least if you want an unlock bootloader the only option so far for an AT&T unit is flashing pudding no matter what version you have (1.83 or 2.3.4/4.5.91)
cwburns32 said:
Although this is my first post, I have been reading hundreds of threads on this site for months now...
I know this post should be in the developer-related forums but being a newbie I am not allowed to post in that section.
My question is can that SBF be flashed over GingerBlur...here is what I am running with a LOCKED bootloader.
Version.4.1.83.MB860.ATT.en.US
Android 2.2.2
Baseband N_01.77.15P
Kernel 2.63.9-00007-g527fe10
Build GingerBlur 4
Please respond ASAP I just OTA Gingerbread onto my girlfriend's Atrix because she doesn't want to fool around with all this and am DYING to get my hands on a rooted, unlocked Gingerbread Atrix!
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Seems like this question is asked a lot and I want to know the "straight" answer too. Would downgrading to deodexed 1.8.3 via recovery from Gingerblur be enough in order to flash SBF gingerbread and unlock? Or should I SBF back to an old AT&T version and update to 1.8.3 before going to Gingerbread? Thanks.
LivingChampion said:
Seems like this question is asked a lot and I want to know the "straight" answer too. Would downgrading to deodexed 1.8.3 via recovery from Gingerblur be enough in order to flash SBF gingerbread and unlock? Or should I SBF back to an old AT&T version and update to 1.8.3 before going to Gingerbread? Thanks.
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I'd use this SBF to flash GB:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182526
LivingChampion said:
Seems like this question is asked a lot and I want to know the "straight" answer too. Would downgrading to deodexed 1.8.3 via recovery from Gingerblur be enough in order to flash SBF gingerbread and unlock? Or should I SBF back to an old AT&T version and update to 1.8.3 before going to Gingerbread? Thanks.
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Exactly!! And can it be done over GingerBlur or CherryBlur as I have seen asked on here for the past day or so consistently with no concrete answers.
cwburns32 said:
Exactly!! And can it be done over GingerBlur or CherryBlur as I have seen asked on here for the past day or so consistently with no concrete answers.
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If you're on 1.8.3 (I don't care what P-ROM you have installed), you can simply flash the above SBF to obtain GB w/o the consequence of not being able to revert to 1.8.3
mpalatsi said:
If you're on 1.8.3 (I don't care what P-ROM you have installed), you can simply flash the above SBF to obtain GB w/o the consequence of not being able to revert to 1.8.3
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Cheers duude. Just outta curiosity how do you like Ninja Speed Freak v4.5?
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Cheers duude. Just outta curiosity how do you like Ninja Speed Freak v4.5?
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Love it. It's clean, quick, and reliable.
So, using that link will it unlock the bootloader too? P-ROM would be gingerblur correct? I am sorry, I am kind of new to the Atrix scene. Gingerblur was really simple, but the rest is kind of out of my league at the moment.
LivingChampion said:
So, using that link will it unlock the bootloader too? P-ROM would be gingerblur correct? I am sorry, I am kind of new to the Atrix scene. Gingerblur was really simple, but the rest is kind of out of my league at the moment.
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That's right, it will unlock your bootloader if you were on 1.8.3.
Make sure you have a full battery before flashing!
Charged that baby all night, today was the day I got Gingerbread. I just wanted to make sure everything is in order before flashing.
Just finished installing it, holy crap. Every app is saved. It seems I'm still rooting too. How do I tell if I'm unlocked?
edit: Ah, nevermind I'm not rooted. Guess thats something I'm going to have to do now.
Okay so here it is. I deleted the stock apps from my atrix on 2.2.2 with bell and tried to upgrade to gingerbread. I think this is why it has been failing each time I try. I have downloaded the 2.2.2 gobstopper as well as RSD lite and Ihop. I am reasonably confident that I can navigate through all of these in order to get back to 2.2.2 and then OTA to 2.3. What I am unsure of though is where or not I actually need to unlock my bootloader and what will happen after I do so. I have heard rumours of a few bricked phones and that's scaring the **** out of me. If someone could just give me an assist here it would be much appreciated.
Just realized I don't know how to flash the Gobstopper in the first place :S
Can't u just use RSDlite to flash a stock froyo .sbf and then OTA up to gingerbread?
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I have my (international) atrix running on CM9.
now i want to get back to stock GB but i'm not quite sure how.
sadly my first nandroid i made got lost somewhere in the process of flashing so i can't go that route.
i read that some downgrade can cause bricks?
the other problem is that a lot of files that were hosted are now offline.
so if someone could please take the time and tell me a safe downgrade path from ICS/JB to stock GB i would be very happy!
thanks a lot!
Search for fruitcakes thread or my backups. Flashing it should be safe.
Yeah fruitcakes are the way to go. You can even downgrade to Froyo with the Froyo fruitcake.
And always remember doing an SBF is a very risky thing, you may end up with an expensive brick. If you want to SBF back to Gingerbread, make sure you flash the version that you had before you flashed any custom roms.
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tatperson said:
Yeah fruitcakes are the way to go. You can even downgrade to Froyo with the Froyo fruitcake.
And always remember doing an SBF is a very risky thing, you may end up with an expensive brick. If you want to SBF back to Gingerbread, make sure you flash the version that you had before you flashed any custom roms.
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As far as i know the only two ways of bricking your phone by "SBF-ing" are disconnecting the phone/electricity or flashing the wrong SBF.
If you are ATT then flash 2.3.6 ATT SBF, if bell then flash bell SBF.
first of all make a full wipe and revert to CM7 for safety !
im neither at&t or bell.
my atrix is from europe and carrier free...
thanks for the answers so far!
pseudoheld said:
im neither at&t or bell.
my atrix is from europe and carrier free...
thanks for the answers so far!
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Those Bell gobstoppers (fruitcakes) will work on any international atrixes NFHimself has quite a few gobstoppers, check them out!
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pseudoheld said:
im neither at&t or bell.
my atrix is from europe and carrier free...
thanks for the answers so far!
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Then i have no idea of which SBF you can flash.
Try roms like Nottachtrix, Maxblur or lytveight...
I will try to compile bootstrap flashable stock roms for all builds here. Should be used for returning to stock after flashing any other locked rom or if you made system changes with the rom tool box or any other similar app and are not sure how to return.
Standard If You Brick Your Phone I Am Not Responsible.
Instructions
- BACK UP YOUR DATA. THIS WILL WIPE THE DATA PARTITION!!!!!!!
- Place zip in internal storage
- Flash via Bootstrap
This does not contain any bootloaders, kernels or cdrom images just the system partition.
After Flashing if you want to remove root use the Photon-Torpedo Direct Method's root cleaner function.
Photon
2.3.5. Photon 4.5.1A-1_SUN-254_13
Electrify
2.3.5. Electrify 4.5.1A_SUN_USC_19.0
Thanks. It works nicely.
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works
Thank you very much. helped get my photon back to semi-official state. now i'm just waiting for a bootloader unlock.
What if I flash over 198_7?
I prefer only stock?
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If you mean flashing this over 198_7 youll have to flash the modules from the 198_7 or you will have communication problems.
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diomsidney said:
Thank you very much. helped get my photon back to semi-official state. now i'm just waiting for a bootloader unlock.
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Glad it helped.
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mof9336 said:
If you mean flashing this over 198_7 youll have to flash the modules from the 198_7 or you will have communication problems.
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Where can I get these modules... or can you make it for stock users..?
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Thanks for this! I know my girl will very much appreciate it lol.
Before I had really got into flashing ROMs, I had her device and updated it to the first Moto Soak test. I had also made some minor tweaks/customizations that I wasn't able to reverse either lol. Now that this is available, I can FINALLY bring her completely back to stock 2.3.5!
When I get around to it, I'll let ya'll know how it turns out
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matriX1218 said:
Where can I get these modules... or can you make it for stock users..?
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I will be updating the 2.3.5.ish as well to the new build for those on 198_7 or lower.
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I will be updating the 2.3.5.ish as well to the new build for those on 198_7 or lower.
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Thanks...
Make it full blur like stock... intact..
BTW why we can't use 2.3.5 kernel or other things except bootloader..?
i Don't know too much about Linux..
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matriX1218 said:
Thanks...
Make it full blur like stock... intact..
BTW why we can't use 2.3.5 kernel or other things except bootloader..?
i Don't know too much about Linux..
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If your on locked 198_7 your running the 2.3.4. kernel. the 2.3.4. bootloader locked will refuse any other kernel than the 2.3.4. unless your unlocked.
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If your on locked 198_7 your running the 2.3.4. kernel. the 2.3.4. bootloader locked will refuse any other kernel than the 2.3.4. unless your unlocked.
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It was so simple answer... thanks. Now I understand...
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So I should have no problems flashing this directly from MOF2.3.5ish v1.4, right?
Airwolf79 said:
So I should have no problems flashing this directly from MOF2.3.5ish v1.4, right?
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If your running 2.3.4. 198_7 or lower and flash this you may have connection problems.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is your MOF2.3.5ish build based on the 2.3.5. 4.5.1A-1_SUN-254_13 build? Does that mean I CAN flash this to get back to stock and not expect connection problems? I'm a rookie.
Airwolf79 said:
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is your MOF2.3.5ish build based on the 2.3.5. 4.5.1A-1_SUN-254_13 build? Does that mean I CAN flash this to get back to stock and not expect connection problems? I'm a rookie.
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MOF 2.3.5.ish is based on 2.3.5. 4.5.1A-1_SUN-254_12 but the modules have been replaced to work with a 2.3.4. kernel. So if you have a 2.3.4. kernel and flash this you will have connesction issues. I will be posting a stock 198_7 or 198_6 stock rom soon.
Ok, well I'm locked and came from 2.3.4 to MOF2.3.5ish, so I assume I still have the 2.3.4 kernel.
Airwolf79 said:
Ok, well I'm locked and came from 2.3.4 to MOF2.3.5ish, so I assume I still have the 2.3.4 kernel.
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Correct. Are you able to Unlock?
I want to unlock, but I'm still trying to learn how to do it on a Mac. There's not a lot of info out there, and I can't brick this phone cuz I need it for work, so I just wanna make sure I know enough before I tackle it.
I am on locked 254_13 with 2.3.5. I just want to know can i install custom rom after installing this one or any other way to get unlocked ...
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