Hey guys.
Long time G1/G2 user here...just cashed in on the Valentines Deal from T-Mobile and picked up the Amaze.
The associate @ the store here in Wilmington informed me that the Amaze has video out via micro HDMI...and same battery charger as the G2...?
My G2 charger seemed to work in the car, but after opening the one that came with the phone when i got home, I saw it looked a little different.
This was after I was all excited to hook up the phone to my Vizio LCD tv via a micro hdmi cable from newegg, but it didn't seem to want to fit properly. Is there a special cable I need or adapter require to hook up to a TV?
Thanks
You need a mhl adaptor
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As stated, you need an mhl adapter for hdmi output.
As for the charger, it's a proprietary port on the phone, but it will also work with a traditional microusb cable.
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Anyone have any first-hand experience using a proper MHL adapter for the Amaze? I'm very interested in buying one but have seen mixed reviews from this one: http://www.amazon.com/iKross-Jetstre.../dp/B005JZX5LC
I've seen other results on Google but no one really comments on having tested it with their Amaze. I've read reports of people using the HTC MHL adapter on their Evo 3D, saying the video looked pixelated. Has anyone found or used an adapter that worked well?
you can be the guinnea pig.
Hehehe, I'm hoping other guinea pigs who have tested will share!
Thank you guys for responding....appreciate it
I have used an MHL adapter
The one I have is from Tmobile. It works, but I just don't see the practicality of it. I used to have the G2X that required that micro HDMI to HDMI. That just required one cable. This time with the MHL adapter you need to not only have to have the MHL adapter, but you also need a normal HDMI cable and a MicroUSB plug to power the device. Without either you wont get any picture. It works like normal and honestly I don't see any difference between the picture of the Amaze with their MHL adapter and the picture of the G2X with their microHDMI. It works great, but the only set back now is the amount of cables needed for this feature now.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with the adapter. Could you comment on the picture quality? Does a 1080p movie look 1080p on the TV?
Based on threads here and elsewhere, I found the HTC AC-M500 12-pin adapter (the correct one according to HTC), featuring their proprietary ExtMicro USB plug. I'd tried a generic 5-pin MHL-HDMI adapter from Overstock.com, and sometimes it would work, sometimes not. (I later determined that this was probably the fault of the Dell 24" monitor I have at work.)
There are 7 extra pins in the connector that I frankly don't know if they do anything; in prior threads someone identified them as supporting composite video (yes you read that correctly), stereo audio and a MIC. But the plug fits great, and on a Samsung 27" LED HDTV, the video looks as crisp as you'd expect. Is it worth $30+? Depends upon how often you want to use it. I hope to do presentations and playback with it.
If you want some detailed pics, look to my images posted to WikiCommons.
My user page on WikiMedia (click "user contributions")
(I've also got pics in the Amazon product page's gallery.)
WikusVanDeMerwe said:
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with the adapter. Could you comment on the picture quality? Does a 1080p movie look 1080p on the TV?
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I'm not sure if it's the player of the Amaze that makes it less appealing or if I just encoded it wrong or if it's the limitations of the picture transfer itself, but it doesn't look "perfect" so to speak. Sometimes there's even a little audio delay that for some reason is more visible on the TV than it is on the phone. It still looks good and I imagine that if the right settings for video encoding come out it will look great, but don't expect BluRay quality from the phone.
I found that my Amaze has trouble playing 1080p without a stutter ... but it does that on the device as well as the external display. I guess those of us who want to do this regularly need to upgrade to the Edge/Endeavor this summer.
The MHL cable I had for my Sensation 4G works for the Amaze, I tried it out last night it worked with no problem.
Important question, when using a typical 5 pin MHL adapter, does the phone transmit audio over HDMI as well?
Along with that, if not, does the 12 pin adapter transmit audio? Thanks guys.
ChromeJob said:
I found that my Amaze has trouble playing 1080p without a stutter ... but it does that on the device as well as the external display. I guess those of us who want to do this regularly need to upgrade to the Edge/Endeavor this summer.
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mmmmm Endeavor, nom nom nom....
Alo81 said:
Important question, when using a typical 5 pin MHL adapter, does the phone transmit audio over HDMI as well?
Along with that, if not, does the 12 pin adapter transmit audio? Thanks guys.
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Yes. And yes.
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mmmmm Endeavor, nom nom nom....
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You mean the HTC One....
Does anyone know if the MHL adapter supports keyboard/mouse/monitor? If not, is there a dock or adapter that does?
Check Wikipedia for references on MHL ... my reading was that it was just mobile high-definition link ... that is, a way of getting hi-def video and audio OUT of the device, not networking IN some peripherals.
Phenomenon said:
The one I have is from Tmobile. It works, but I just don't see the practicality of it. I used to have the G2X that required that micro HDMI to HDMI. That just required one cable. This time with the MHL adapter you need to not only have to have the MHL adapter, but you also need a normal HDMI cable and a MicroUSB plug to power the device. Without either you wont get any picture. It works like normal and honestly I don't see any difference between the picture of the Amaze with their MHL adapter and the picture of the G2X with their microHDMI. It works great, but the only set back now is the amount of cables needed for this feature now.
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I agree. The HDMI connection on my G2x was a lot more simpler. One cord. I am considering being a guinea pig when I get my pay check in a week....
I purchased one of these from amazon.com it works perfectly, but I do agree, microHDMI port would def. be preferable to the extra cord + adapter...
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I've searched Amazon for the HDMI out cable (mini-usb to HDMI) and it came up with a lot of EVO 4G compatible ones, will that one work or not? I recall viewing a video review saying the hdmi cable for the EVO 4G isn't compatible with the 3D Evo, but I could be mistaken.
You NEED a micro-usb to hdmi cable. the ones for the evo 4g are JUST mini-HDMI to regular HDMI. Check the HTC website or wait until after the 3D comes out; there should be plenty coming out (it might even be included when you buy the phone?)
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I've searched Amazon for the HDMI out cable (mini-usb to HDMI) and it came up with a lot of EVO 4G compatible ones, will that one work or not? I recall viewing a video review saying the hdmi cable for the EVO 4G isn't compatible with the 3D Evo, but I could be mistaken.
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No, we need mhl cable.
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I've searched Amazon for the HDMI out cable (mini-usb to HDMI) and it came up with a lot of EVO 4G compatible ones, will that one work or not? I recall viewing a video review saying the hdmi cable for the EVO 4G isn't compatible with the 3D Evo, but I could be mistaken.
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Mini
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10242
Micro
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10253
I have a Micro-HDMI for my EVO. I haven't read what size the port on the 3D is so I can't say for sure. From Monoprice you could buy both and still pay less than you would buying from Sprint or HTC.
Edit: Apparently according to this it doesn't have one, it uses some different method of USB to HDMI
http://phandroid.com/2011/03/28/htc...lity-without-an-hdmi-port-thanks-t-mhl-video/
It's a Micro USB to HDMI connection. The biggest benefit is that it charges your phone while connected. Biggest drawback, your TV has to have compatibility built into it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-definition_Link
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/04/mhl-port-on-htc-evo-3d-and-evo-view-4g.html
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No, we need mhl cable.
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This is correct, I didn't read this post before responding the first time
Whoa whoa, how do I know what tvs support it?
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All TVs that have HDMI input (basically all of them now) support it.
Actually, no tv's support mhl right now, but they will be able to do hdmi out with the cable, but just not charge at the same time, but htc also said they have an adapter to charge while doing hdmi out
mypd1991 said:
Actually, no tv's support mhl right now, but they will be able to do hdmi out with the cable, but just not charge at the same time, but htc also said they have an adapter to charge while doing hdmi out
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Sorry, I should have clarified. You're right. I was just talking about video out from the phone to the TV. The charging stuff, I'm not sure about.
Your tv will support it, you will have a dongle that attaches to from the micro usb to the mini HDMI port that provides function to the TV. Its called MHL technology and its very exciting. Charging your phone while you watch movies on your phone on your LCD or LED television is awesome. There are many, many functions for this technology and they are just starting to test what it is we really need to get this working without the dongle that is required without the TV or monitor needing the technology. Youtube MHL Technology and you will find your answer.
Just read in one of the links in this post that mhl does not support 3d...so how do u output 3d video to a 3d tv?
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Eat it iPhone said:
Just read in one of the links in this post that mhl does not support 3d...so how do u output 3d video to a 3d tv?
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Still learning about this myself but from what I've read with mhl v.1.0 you can't, it doesn't support it. I don't know if the port will eventually be able to support it with later versions of the standard. Also, if you buy a cable when they're first available it's possible they'll only support 1.0 and you might need a new cable when later revisions of the standard are finalized to support the new features (similar to HDMI).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA
Kind of disappointed that I'll have to buy an adapter for my phone to charge while using HDMI out, this technology is cool, but the downside is that no TVs support it (yet). And I just bought a 42" like two weeks ago.
Am I mistaken or will all the 3D pics/vids essentially will only be viewable on EVO 3Ds? Like you'll see them but they won't be in 3D, regardless of TV or monitor claiming 3D functionality.
So now that the phone is out, has anyone tried out a generic micro usb to HDMI on the EVO 3D?
I can't seem to find any tv-out cables specific to the EVO 3D, so I want to be sure any micro usb to HDMI cable will work.
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So now that the phone is out, has anyone tried out a generic micro usb to HDMI on the EVO 3D?
I can't seem to find any tv-out cables specific to the EVO 3D, so I want to be sure any micro usb to HDMI cable will work.
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Micro usb won't work. You need.an MHL adapter. Then a regular hdmi cable plugs into the MHL adapter, and you plug your charging cable into the MHL adapter so it charges while its mirroring hdmi.
http://www.google.com/m/products?gl...products&ei=N7UvTvCrAYmKiAKe4-w1&ved=0CCYQzQM
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Does anyone even make a micro USB to HDMI cable? I have the adapter dongle thingy, but I'm curious what would happen if it was just a cable instead of a dongle.
lol.....dongle
This is a real disapointment. I bought a micro Genie cable for my EVO 4G. Now it sits there wasting away. I can't understand why they couldn't keep the mini Genie port on the 3D. Now I got to spend another 40-50$ if i want to hook my 3D up to hdmi.
FAIL
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I grabbed an MHL adapter over at T-Mobile for $20. Works like a charm. Search their site for the Sensation data accessories.
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I grabbed an MHL adapter over at T-Mobile for $20. Works like a charm. Search their site for the Sensation data accessories.
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Interesting - does that adapter also give you a port to charge while you do TV Out? It's impossible to tell from the small picture on t-mobile site and for some reason the "details" link doesn't work.
I ordered the MHL adaptor from T-Mobile's website yesterday, so I should get it today (yeah, I paid the extra $6 for overnight shipping).
Does this phone support FULL mirroring (i.e., when plugged in to TV, TV screen mirrors whatever is on the phone's screen)? I used the full HDMI app on my Evo 4G, and it was great for watching shows from HBO GO on my TV.
Has anyone tried it yet? If not, is there a review out there somewhere that specifically demonstrates this feature?
I guess I'll know tonight when I get home from work!
Thanks,
Rob
I haven't seen it specifically on this phone, but I've seen the Qualcomm MSM8660 demos showing full mirroring. We should be capable of it, but I haven't tried it out yet.
I'm surprised nobody's tried it yet!
Can you use the normal micro HDMI or do you have to buy the adapter to use HDMI? Lol kinda confused how this works with the new port? Could anyone explain? Thanks
You need to buy an adaptor. Basically, it's a dongle that plugs into the USB (charger) on the E3D. The dongle/adaptor has a HDMI port on it, along with a USB port. You plug an HDMI cable into the HDMI port, and into the TV. You plug a charger into the USB port and into the wall.
So no, the HDMI cable from the EVO 4G (I have one too) won't work.
Does that help?
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You need to buy an adaptor. Basically, it's a dongle that plugs into the USB (charger) on the E3D. The dongle/adaptor has a HDMI port on it, along with a USB port. You plug an HDMI cable into the HDMI port, and into the TV. You plug a charger into the USB port and into the wall.
So no, the HDMI cable from the EVO 4G (I have one too) won't work.
Does that help?
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I believe that was what he said in the first line..
rtmeikle said:
You need to buy an adaptor. Basically, it's a dongle that plugs into the USB (charger) on the E3D. The dongle/adaptor has a HDMI port on it, along with a USB port. You plug an HDMI cable into the HDMI port, and into the TV. You plug a charger into the USB port and into the wall.
So no, the HDMI cable from the EVO 4G (I have one too) won't work.
Does that help?
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Thanks for clearing that up!!
Back to the issue at hand... does it do HDMI mirroring or not? I have this bad ass HDMI integration in my Prius that is preventing me from upgrading from the 4G until at least HDMI mirroring is confirmed.
rictorg said:
Back to the issue at hand... does it do HDMI mirroring or not? I have this bad ass HDMI integration in my Prius that is preventing me from upgrading from the 4G until at least HDMI mirroring is confirmed.
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According to this demo from CTIA it appears it can, but this is unfinished testing hardware/firmware so it's still not a confirmation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ynmqtopi9g
This doesn't exactly give you an answer with the level of certainty you are looking for but it's a good sign. We should see some end users with feedback on HDMI features on the production phone streaming in any time now that hopefully confirms that it can do this across any application without problems or limitations.
rtmeikle said:
I ordered the MHL adaptor from T-Mobile's website yesterday, so I should get it today (yeah, I paid the extra $6 for overnight shipping).
Does this phone support FULL mirroring (i.e., when plugged in to TV, TV screen mirrors whatever is on the phone's screen)? I used the full HDMI app on my Evo 4G, and it was great for watching shows from HBO GO on my TV.
Has anyone tried it yet? If not, is there a review out there somewhere that specifically demonstrates this feature?
I guess I'll know tonight when I get home from work!
Thanks,
Rob
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hey rtmeikle . I also got the mhl from tmobile. I hooked it up last night to sadly find out that hdmi mirroring is not supported at all. It was all a big hype it appears. Were you able to get it working? I'm hoping that you were so maybe its just my device....if not, then this phone is going back.
Yep, I got mine yesterday and tested it. It works fine.
You have to have the adaptor plugged in to the phone, a charger plugged to the adaptor, and the HDMI cable running from the phone to the TV.
I got full HDMI mirroring which automatically switched to landscape when I tested Netflix and HBO Go.
Rob
interesting. thanks for the quick respond. When i connect it to my hd tv all i get on the phone is a message that says *HDMI play a video or slideshow to display via hdmi* on the notifications bar. When I click that, nothing happens...
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interesting. thanks for the quick respond. When i connect it to my hd tv all i get on the phone is a message that says *HDMI play a video or slideshow to display via hdmi* on the notifications bar. When I click that, nothing happens...
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Strange. The image of my home screen just popped up on my TV; I didn't have to do anything.
I tested it on the TV in my bedroom, a 3-yr-old Samsung 42" Plasma, nothing fancy.
Maybe tonight I'll test it on my other two TVs and see if it works on all of them.
did you allow the latest OTA upgrade or did you cancel it? I allowed it as soon as I turned the phone on. I also tried it on my 58 samsung plasma hdtv. Its not that old but also not that new.
I'm going to try it tonight on my smaller 32 inch lcd hd tv to see if that makes a difference. It shouldn't though.
Not like it matters since all MHL cables are the same but here is the MHL adapter I'm using: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/AddOns...4ec1-a08e-e133fa772d53&inCart=True&catCode=23
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did you allow the latest OTA upgrade or did you cancel it? I allowed it as soon as I turned the phone on. I also tried it on my 58 samsung plasma hdtv. Its not that old but also not that new.
I'm going to try it tonight on my smaller 32 inch lcd hd tv to see if that makes a difference. It shouldn't though.
Not like it matters since all MHL cables are the same but here is the MHL adapter I'm using: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/AddOns...4ec1-a08e-e133fa772d53&inCart=True&catCode=23
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Yep, I've accepted the OTAs. And I'm using the exact same adaptor. Did you plug power into the adaptor too? I didnt' try without plugging it in, but I've heard that it needs to be plugged in to work.
Ok, i finaly got it to work. It wasn't a problem with the phone but a problem with the tv. I had to change some resolution settings on the tv and presto! Hdmi mirroring on its full glory
Now, do you know if I can pair up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse? Thats next for me.
Thanks for all the help.
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Now, do you know if I can pair up a bluetooth keyboard and mouse? Thats next for me.
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This is what I am currently doing. I have hooked up the following.
Mouse: Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000
Keyboard: Logitech MX5500 Keyboard
The keyboard works great. I can type in the applications and setup my keys in the emulators just fine (snesoid etc)
Mouse functionality though is different then you may expect. You don't get a mouse cursor, it just "highlights" selections then you "left click" to go forward. According to my research the right mouse button is supposed to "go back" but is not working for me.
I put up a thread asking others for help with it, so if I find an answer I will let you know.
Updating you on what I found out about the mouse.
"Well it looks like the fancy mouse support with a cursor and button functionality was something that was included in CyanogenMod 6.X then removed on CyanogenMod 7.
They then added a patch for version 7. But now apparently it is being included in his latest CyanogenMod.
Regardless, it appears you need root access "
wait so how do you charge your phone if you use that hdmi adapter? anyone have a link?
A.Priori said:
wait so how do you charge your phone if you use that hdmi adapter? anyone have a link?
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the adapter has a USB plug that you use to hook up to a charger, and will charge your phone. Newer TVs are coming that will support charging over HDMI via the MHL adapter, there may be some out but I think will be a standard in 2012 TVs.
http://www.expansys-usa.com/expansys-mhl-to-hdmi-adapter-black-218572/
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-sensation-mhl-cable-ac-m490-extmicro-usb-12-pin-to-hdmi-218634/
the HTC one looks lke it includes a HDMI cable, too, but you can see the usb port on each adapter for charging.
So, I ordered the mhl adapter for the sensation from t-mobile on Monday so that I would have it when I got the phone. Well, got the phones on Wednesday and the adapter didn't show till today, so poor planning on my part. I attached a pic of my invoice with the product number for reference.
Anyway, I can say that the adapter works great and displays the full ui from the phone to the tv perfectly. It scales nicely in landscape and you can hardly see any lag in the phone or HDMI out. It's always fun playing angry birds on a plasma screen. Also audio is sent to the tv nicely, angry birds with surround sound is pretty sweet. The extent of my testing is with angry birds and the phone ui, but I'm sure I'll find some more purposeful uses for it in the future.
Something I didn't like about it though. You HAVE TO have the charger plugged in, or you will not get HDMI out. You can plug them in any order that you like, but if there is no charger connected, you will not get HDMI out.
I'm sure someone will fix this once we're rooted, but It's kind of annoying right now. I'm also sure there's a good reason for it to be this way, likely because the battery won't last long sending out hd. I'll just have to get a new tv that supports mhl so I won't have to run two cables, yeah, that's a good excuse to get a new tv, right?
Edit: Here's a link to the T-Mobile store,
http://find.t-mobile.com/controller?N=0&Ntk=primary&Ntx=mode+matchpartialmax&Ntt=supa37117
Pick Sensation 4G and then scroll down to Data, it should be in there.
Edit: Actually, you'll have to go back and pick HTC, then Sensation, then Data. Otherwise it doesn't show up for some reason.
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Will it output the green hornet movie or is it protected?
Couldn't say, I never did the ota, so I can't watch it on the phone at all.
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oh ok, im gonna order one and try it out.
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Will it output the green hornet movie or is it protected?
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have the mhl adapter from tmo as well(hmm...ordered mine last week ..arrived today as well.. ) anyway using the mhl adapter green hornet is currently playing in 2d on my 720p Envision 32" ...no I do not have a 3d tv to test on..edit again 3x youtube 720p and 1080p videos output nicely as well
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have the mhl adapter from tmo as well(hmm...ordered mine last week ..arrived today as well.. ) anyway using the mhl adapter green hornet is currently playing in 2d on my 720p Envision 32" ...no I do not have a 3d tv to test on..edit again 3x youtube 720p and 1080p videos output nicely as well
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Right on, good to hear that HTC hasn't blocked a bunch of content from being outputted like they did with the old Evo.
MHL doesnt support 3d currently. Maybe in revision 2.0 with "hopefully" a firmware update needed instead of new hardware.
But from what I saw online it should only be able to output 2d.
question?i have a 3d samsung led tv that requires glasses,is there anyway to view pics or videos with my evo 3d?
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Something I didn't like about it though. You HAVE TO have the charger plugged in, or you will not get HDMI out. You can plug them in any order that you like, but if there is no charger connected, you will not get HDMI out.
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if the MHL plugs into the Micro-USB and so does the charger, then how can you plug in the charger and the MHL at the same time?
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if the MHL plugs into the Micro-USB and so does the charger, then how can you plug in the charger and the MHL at the same time?
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Mhl adapters have a micro usb port on them so you can charge your phone while outputting hdmi.
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have the mhl adapter from tmo as well(hmm...ordered mine last week ..arrived today as well.. ) anyway using the mhl adapter green hornet is currently playing in 2d on my 720p Envision 32" ...no I do not have a 3d tv to test on..edit again 3x youtube 720p and 1080p videos output nicely as well
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Ok thanks im definately going get one. Im going to check my local tmobile before ordering it.
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if the MHL plugs into the Micro-USB and so does the charger, then how can you plug in the charger and the MHL at the same time?
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EvoSideHustlAZ said:
question?i have a 3d samsung led tv that requires glasses,is there anyway to view pics or videos with my evo 3d?
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If your TV has DLNA support, then yea. Or you can use a PS3 via DLNA, too. I'm not sure of the Xbox has DLNA support, though.
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If your TV has DLNA support, then yea. Or you can use a PS3 via DLNA, too. I'm not sure of the Xbox has DLNA support, though.
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I know this is OT, but I picked up a nice media player a few days ago (had to replace my older Argosy HV335T), and this thing is perfect with DLNA (they just call it UPNP, there is no actual DLNA option on it). Been streaming quite a bit from my EVO 3D already with no delay or lag on it.
http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Digital_Media_Player/OPlay_HD2
I managed to get mine for $139 on Newegg.
So you still need a micro hdmi cable in addition to the mhl cable? I thought the point of it was to reduce the amount of cables you used, not increase
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So you still need a micro hdmi cable in addition to the mhl cable? I thought the point of it was to reduce the amount of cables you used, not increase
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Eventually tv's will be mhl compatible and one cable will do power and video with no adapter.
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So you still need a micro hdmi cable in addition to the mhl cable? I thought the point of it was to reduce the amount of cables you used, not increase
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No, no need for the micro hdmi cable from the Evo 4G. The adapter uses a standard hdmi cable. What you DO need is the micro-USB charge cable to plug into the appropriate port on the adapter.
I have both of those np, got my micro hdmi cable from monoprice
Just fyi pulled pictures on to my pc....was able to open them and using red/cyan glasses to view on 2d monitor and 2d panisonic plasma worked great....havn't played with video yet...will keep you updated
Just literally got mine in the mail. Didn't think T-Mobile would ship it via parcel post with $5.99 standard shipping (I expected at least first class. Way to be cheap about it T-Mobile). Should have opted for overnight since I ordered it last Wednesday and was hoping to get it by Friday or Saturday.
Overall pretty impressive. NetFlix, Green Hornet and everything else I've tried will output to the HDTV I'm a little bit annoyed that you MUST plug in power for it to work. I understand the MHL standard isn't available on any TV yet, but I didn't think power was a requirement with the adapter. Not a huge issue, but still wishing they went with microHDMI.
Only thing I've noticed is with Hulu+ when installing a permission was set to block HDMI, but since I am not able to stream any videos because of an "incompatible device" I can't test it. Can't wait for root though so I can really have fun with CM7 and HDMI mirroring
Hey guys I found this mhl adapter on monoprice and it's $10.20. By far one of the cheapest out there. Also monoprice has great build quality on their products! Here's the product link http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8805&seq=1&format=2, and here's their video on it! They use it on our evo 3d's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P5tJl_a_wcc
Yep - that's already been discussed many times under the MHL adapter threads. There have been many reviews about that particular adapter - including mine.
Honestly - I have no complaints about my MHL adapter.
P0ll0L0c0 said:
Yep - that's already been discussed many times under the MHL adapter threads. There have been many reviews about that particular adapter - including mine.
Honestly - I have no complaints about my MHL adapter.
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Really!? I've never seen it haha thanks! Do you like it?
I do - it works well. You just have to make sure you're using the right app - beause they don't all look equally as sharp.
For example - Diceplayer looks better when playing video than the stock gallery app in my opinion.
All that said, I just decided to order this adapter since it was so cheap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110821533138
I was looking for a 2nd MHL adapter to throw in my car, and this price ($6) was about right. I'll report back how it works when I get it.
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I do - it works well. You just have to make sure you're using the right app - beause they don't all look equally as sharp.
For example - Diceplayer looks better when playing video than the stock gallery app in my opinion.
All that said, I just decided to order this adapter since it was so cheap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110821533138
I was looking for a 2nd MHL adapter to throw in my car, and this price ($6) was about right. I'll report back how it works when I get it.
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Awesome i'll probably order mine from monoprice just cause I've gotten such great products from them.
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Hey guys I found this mhl adapter on monoprice and it's $10.20. By far one of the cheapest out there. Also monoprice has great build quality on their products! Here's the product link http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8805&seq=1&format=2, and here's their video on it! They use it on our evo 3d's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P5tJl_a_wcc
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I bought it when it went on sale a couple weeks ago for something like 9 bucks shipped. I wouldn't recommend it. The battery drains even when plugged in (which has to be plugged in to work). If you read the reviews monoprice actually responded that it only can input of 500mA which is only half of what the stock charger puts out but standard for USB ports on a PC. Don't know if its an MHL flaw or a monoprice adapter flaw but a 720p movie with the phone in airplane mode still managed to drain the battery in under 2 hours. You also can't manually change resolution although that's a limitation on the phone. This really isn't a problem as it defaults to 720p for most TVs but I did have it go to a really low resolution in a monitor.
Don't blame the monoprice adapter, that's a weakness with all mhl adapters. There was a guy who claimed his was charging, but checking the system settings showed he was limited to USB charging and not AC.
The key is not having other apps running or services you don't need. On an airplane, you should have gotten a much better discharge rate! The last time I used mine at a friends house to watch a 720p MKV, I had over 90% of my battery left. I figured I could have watched over 10 hours of video. If you're streaming, you will burn more battery obviously.
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Don't blame the monoprice adapter, that's a weakness with all mhl adapters. There was a guy who claimed his was charging, but checking the system settings showed he was limited to USB charging and not AC.
The key is not having other apps running or services you don't need. On an airplane, you should have gotten a much better discharge rate! The last time I used mine at a friends house to watch a 720p MKV, I had over 90% of my battery left. I figured I could have watched over 10 hours of video. If you're streaming, you will burn more battery obviously.
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That's crazy ill have to try with a clean install. Also wish I could turnoff the backlight wwithout turning off the LCD. That would save some power. I though it might have been an MHL limitation but I have seen 1amp MHL adapters. That could just be the reseller making up specs they don't know. Really huge design flaw in my og Evo I could stream any content and it would still charge even with Bluetooth enabled. Shame you have to cripple the phone so much so it doesn't die on you.
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That's crazy ill have to try with a clean install. Also wish I could turnoff the backlight wwithout turning off the LCD. That would save some power. I though it might have been an MHL limitation but I have seen 1amp MHL adapters. That could just be the reseller making up specs they don't know. Really huge design flaw in my og Evo I could stream any content and it would still charge even with Bluetooth enabled. Shame you have to cripple the phone so much so it doesn't die on you.
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Yeah, buy you had two connections into your phone with the OG Evo. The MHL adaptor will eventually (when tv's come with it) only need the HDMI cable and hopefully charge more than the USB does.
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Yeah, buy you had two connections into your phone with the OG Evo. The MHL adaptor will eventually (when tv's come with it) only need the HDMI cable and hopefully charge more than the USB does.
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Didn't think they would.wrap it into a TV but if 500mA is an MHL limitation then it really wouldn't make a difference since the stock charger already outputs more than that and what the adaptot itself consumes.
Nice find! I was looking on Amazon for an MHL adapter, but glad I checked here before purchasing one.
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That's crazy ill have to try with a clean install. Also wish I could turnoff the backlight wwithout turning off the LCD. That would save some power. I though it might have been an MHL limitation but I have seen 1amp MHL adapters. That could just be the reseller making up specs they don't know. Really huge design flaw in my og Evo I could stream any content and it would still charge even with Bluetooth enabled. Shame you have to cripple the phone so much so it doesn't die on you.
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Can you point me to any 1 AMP advertised MHL adapters?
Even if they work for other phones, this phone's funny. I have quite a few 2.1A chargers, both car and AC - and not all of them charge beyond USB charging rate. It seems one or two of the micro usb pins need to be shorted to charge our phone at a rate higher than 0.5A.
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I do - it works well. You just have to make sure you're using the right app - beause they don't all look equally as sharp.
For example - Diceplayer looks better when playing video than the stock gallery app in my opinion.
All that said, I just decided to order this adapter since it was so cheap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110821533138
I was looking for a 2nd MHL adapter to throw in my car, and this price ($6) was about right. I'll report back how it works when I get it.
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I just got this EBAY adapter - and I haven't had a chance to fully test it. It wouldn't work for HDMI out - so I thought it was defective, but I realized I haven't used MHL since I rooted my phone (olympus rom). I used my monoprice adapter and also wasn't able to get it to work, though it ran very well when the phone was stock. So I'll wait to review until I flash a new rom that actally lets me use the MHL adapter properly.
One thing that shows promise is that when I charge through the EBAY $6 MHL adapter, it shows up as AC charging on my phone. The monoprice shows up as USB charging. I've also confirmed that it definitely charges faster.
I'll still have to test whether or not it actually works - and if it'll actually charge faster IN USE. I'll let you guys know. If it does work and charge faster than the mono price adapter, I'll post here and start a new thread. Otherwise, I'll report back and apologize.
I updated to a kernel which allowed HDMI out and tested the new HDMI adapter. Visually, back to back with the monoprice adapter - the EBAY $6 adapter worked just as good. That is to say that the picture looked idetically sharp.
I then played a 42 minute 720P MKV through diceplayer - and my phone's charge increased from 66% to 70%. It's the first time I've seen that with an MHL adapter.
With this new kernel (Anthrax R13) - this MHL adapter now shows charging my phone as being via USB instead of AC. But next, I plan to play an identical video with the monoprice adapter - to see if my charge level increases or drains in use.
I'll start a new thread when I have the results, but regardless, at $6 - this EBAY cheapie has to be the best value yet.
Are there any other kernel/rom options that would support hdmi out to tv? Thanks
One thing you might want to consider if using this with the HTC dock, is that the Monoprice adapter won't fit well. You have to force the micro usb in. To use it in the dock, you need a micro usb adapter that has the micro end with a less bulky plastic enclosure. The curved side of the tip needs to be closer to the plastic edge. The adapter I got from eBay fits better, without forcing or bending. You could also try carving away excess material.
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I'll start a new thread when I have the results, but regardless, at $6 - this EBAY cheapie has to be the best value yet.
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I've got a 10£ ebay special and lovin it no probs.
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Continuation of closed thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301895
Funny, that thread was the first suggestion in the "Here are similar threads we found:" dialog when I created this thread.
Anyways, my question is pertaining to the last couple posts in that thread. They were talking about the official HTC AC M500 12-pin MHL adapter. I know it's the official MHL adapter for the Amaze, but what I'm wondering is why I'd spring for that adapter, when for just a bit less, I can get the official HTC AC M490, which is the 5-pin version? Not only is it cheaper, but it'll work with any phone that has a standard 5-pin USB/MHL port.
If you've tried the 5pin then you know that it disconnects almost all the time. Plus the charging while plugged in doesn't work too well. I have the 12pin and I don't have to sit there with a steady hand while connected to the tv and don't have to worry about the battery discharging while watching a movie from my sdcard. I prefer quality over quantity.
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If you've tried the 5pin then you know that it disconnects almost all the time. Plus the charging while plugged in doesn't work too well. I have the 12pin and I don't have to sit there with a steady hand while connected to the tv and don't have to worry about the battery discharging while watching a movie from my sdcard. I prefer quality over quantity.
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Yeah, I haven't tried any of them. I guess I've not had any problems with standard 5-pin usb charges staying in place, but perhaps the MHL adapter causes more strain on the connector. If I get the 5-pin it'd also work for my girlfriend's evo3d.... choices
It will work if the EVO 3D uses mhl. Don't get me wrong the 5pin will work but you will start to get really frustrated if the plug or phone or table is slightly moved and you lose connection. Lol
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Double0EK said:
It will work if the EVO 3D uses mhl. Don't get me wrong the 5pin will work but you will start to get really frustrated if the plug or phone or table is slightly moved and you lose connection. Lol
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Yeah, the evo3d has MHL, but only the standard 5pin plug.
I use a 5 pin your right about the charging watched a movie plugged in the whole time batt was at %20 at the end. Wrong about the connection though you must of had a bad one. I can pick up the phone wiggle it around and never loose the picture.
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Continuation of closed thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301895
Funny, that thread was the first suggestion in the "Here are similar threads we found:" dialog when I created this thread.
Anyways, my question is pertaining to the last couple posts in that thread. They were talking about the official HTC AC M500 12-pin MHL adapter. I know it's the official MHL adapter for the Amaze, but what I'm wondering is why I'd spring for that adapter, when for just a bit less, I can get the official HTC AC M490, which is the 5-pin version? Not only is it cheaper, but it'll work with any phone that has a standard 5-pin USB/MHL port.
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What I have found out regarding which is the proper adapter, and you are correct it's the HTC AC500 12-pin Ext-USB to HDMI MHL adapter (its the same MHL adapter that the HTC Flyer tablet uses).The micro "Ext-USB" connection and the fact that its twelve pins instead of a 5 pin connector do indeed make a difference in terms of functionality, quality, and performance. Although, that not to say that other MHL adapters with 5-pin connectors like the HTC AC490 adapter won't work on the Amaze, cause they do in terms of displaying video on your TV. However, the 5-pin adapter wont charge the unit while its plugged in, even if you have an MHL adapter that has its own AC power source. According to HTC that is the case at least, and from reading other comments, I assume that HTC isnt bullshitting.
I was also told by the HTC rep via email, that when you use the HTC AC500 12-pin Ext-usb MHL adapter, it actually allows the Amaze 4G to open up or enable a feature where the phone acts more like a playback remote for viewing videos and photos, and so basically it doesnt only just mirror image the display you see on the devices screen on the TV (in other words, it enables an app where you can select the file you wanna view from the app on the Amaze, and then you can use your phone to control the playback of the videos/files etc). I also found out, not only does using the correct MHL adapter enable some pretty cool functionality & features, it also will greatly improve the HD image and sound quality being sent to your TV. All the while, the 12-pin adapter will charge your phone in the process ...
For some people, I guess, those additional features and the improved image & sound quality won't be a deciding factor for them, and will go for the cheapest adapter they can find on eBay. For me however, I'd personally rather spend the additional $20-30 for the official HTC AC500 12-pin adapter.
... Only problem now though is, I can't for the life of me seem to find them anywhere, but you can get them direct from HTCs webstore. Only problem is HTC doesn't operate their official online Accessories Store in Canada ... and neither the US or nor the UK stores will ship items here. Poo
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Double0EK said:
If you've tried the 5pin then you know that it disconnects almost all the time. Plus the charging while plugged in doesn't work too well. I have the 12pin and I don't have to sit there with a steady hand while connected to the tv and don't have to worry about the battery discharging while watching a movie from my sdcard. I prefer quality over quantity.
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Hey, since you use the 12-pin adapter ... correct me if I'm wrong about what I wrote above. I don't have any 'hands on' experience using one, so I'm only going off what I have heard.
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eBay has the DC T500 for $9.99 or two for $17.99.
MHL on Sony Erisccon Live With Walkman?
I have a Sony Ericsson Live with Wlkman. Can I able to use MHL on my phone to view movies on TV?
kjisaac said:
Hey, since you use the 12-pin adapter ... correct me if I'm wrong about what I wrote above. I don't have any 'hands on' experience using one, so I'm only going off what I have heard.
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Sorry, I don't browse the accessories to often. But to answer your question. It does have a different feature...only on stock. It seems some roms remove the feature. But its no biggie. It still plays really good HD.
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couldnt ever get the 5-pin to work with my Sensation before & now on either my Amaze or Flyer (but i know it works cuz it does on my bros One V) so im selling it....picked-up a 12-pin from fleabay for $15
my ? is, which ROMs will support this feature (or which ones do not)? im using EnergyROM with the Amaze & OneXXL with the Flyer
update: 12-pin working great without the need for power to be plugged-in. sold the 5-pin OEM Adapter [73H00394-00M] for the same $20 i bought it for so ended up making $5 out of the whole thing
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It does have a different feature...only on stock. It seems some roms remove the feature. But its no biggie. It still plays really good HD.
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kjisaac said:
What I have found out regarding which is the proper adapter, and you are correct it's the HTC AC500 12-pin Ext-USB to HDMI MHL adapter (its the same MHL adapter that the HTC Flyer tablet uses).The micro "Ext-USB" connection and the fact that its twelve pins instead of a 5 pin connector do indeed make a difference in terms of functionality, quality, and performance. Although, that not to say that other MHL adapters with 5-pin connectors like the HTC AC490 adapter won't work on the Amaze, cause they do in terms of displaying video on your TV. However, the 5-pin adapter wont charge the unit while its plugged in, even if you have an MHL adapter that has its own AC power source. According to HTC that is the case at least, and from reading other comments, I assume that HTC isnt bull****ting.
I was also told by the HTC rep via email, that when you use the HTC AC500 12-pin Ext-usb MHL adapter, it actually allows the Amaze 4G to open up or enable a feature where the phone acts more like a playback remote for viewing videos and photos, and so basically it doesnt only just mirror image the display you see on the devices screen on the TV (in other words, it enables an app where you can select the file you wanna view from the app on the Amaze, and then you can use your phone to control the playback of the videos/files etc). I also found out, not only does using the correct MHL adapter enable some pretty cool functionality & features, it also will greatly improve the HD image and sound quality being sent to your TV. All the while, the 12-pin adapter will charge your phone in the process ...
For some people, I guess, those additional features and the improved image & sound quality won't be a deciding factor for them, and will go for the cheapest adapter they can find on eBay. For me however, I'd personally rather spend the additional $20-30 for the official HTC AC500 12-pin adapter.
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Would love to find one of these in Canada somewhere.
Menotek MHL adapter
I'm late to the thread but I thought I'd add my experience with a similar MHL adapter. I got one by Menotek from Amazon [sorry, can't post links yet]. Short story is that it works, but far for perfectly:
- it does not charge the Amaze while it is connected to my TV via HDMI
- if you unplug it and plug it back, it will not detect the phone and TV connection anymore. I need to restart the phone in order to re-establish the link
- it works great for low res graphics such as youtube, fpse (PSX emulator)
- it sucks for hi res such as netflix movies
While my main use for this MHL adapter is to play PSX games on my phone on by big screen TV, I am disappointed that it doesn't give high quality video from my netflix app.
I wonder if I should buy the aforementioned 12-pin MHL adapter which is also available from Amazon. Does anyone have personal experience with this adapter on their Amaze?
I got mine off ebay for about 8 dollars and its never disconnected on me, I can even play games on it... works great!
blindskater39 said:
I got mine off ebay for about 8 dollars and its never disconnected on me, I can even play games on it... works great!
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Can you give more info on the MHL adapter you got off ebay? Brand/model or even link?
Thanks!
doczeuhl said:
Can you give more info on the MHL adapter you got off ebay? Brand/model or even link?
Thanks!
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I'm late to the thread but I thought I'd add my experience with a similar MHL adapter. I got one by Menotek from Amazon [sorry, can't post links yet]. Short story is that it works, but far for perfectly:
- it does not charge the Amaze while it is connected to my TV via HDMI
- if you unplug it and plug it back, it will not detect the phone and TV connection anymore. I need to restart the phone in order to re-establish the link
- it works great for low res graphics such as youtube, fpse (PSX emulator)
- it sucks for hi res such as netflix movies
While my main use for this MHL adapter is to play PSX games on my phone on by big screen TV, I am disappointed that it doesn't give high quality video from my netflix app.
I wonder if I should buy the aforementioned 12-pin MHL adapter which is also available from Amazon. Does anyone have personal experience with this adapter on their Amaze?
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Dont remember which seller they were one of the top rated sellers though and the mhl adapter supports 25-75hz. It was just one of the many 8 dollar ones on ebay... Idk how many pins it is, its just a regular micro usb port that plugs into the phone and it charges. Never acted up on me on stock on and still works fine on Speed Rom 7.8. These new postings for mhl adapters on ebay for 8 dollars claim to be capable of outputting 3D but in reality that is a requirement of 120hz. I don't know if I can believe that (well maybe it can output 3D but not good 3D video)
I havent tried netflix on my phone to the tv yet, last I remembered the quality wasn't that great even streaming to a phone and watching family guy... Is there anyway to adjust or even trick net flix into streaming higher quality for tv use?
I just got a Sanoxy MHL cable and it works great I have a USB to micro USB from my computer plugged into it and the phone charges faster than it drains. I tested disconnecting the phone from it and then reconnecting to see if the TV would pick it back up and it did. I had Bluetooth GPS and WiFi going while running a linux rom over the TV browsing the internet for about a half an hour and my battery percentage was even higher when I was done.
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Forgot to mention I got it off of amazon for $4.66 after shipping and I said rom when I meant operating system haha. Also was using bluetooth mouse and keyboard not just had Bluetooth turned on
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sbcdave said:
I just got a Sanoxy MHL cable and it works great I have a USB to micro USB from my computer plugged into it and the phone charges faster than it drains. I tested disconnecting the phone from it and then reconnecting to see if the TV would pick it back up and it did. I had Bluetooth GPS and WiFi going while running a linux rom over the TV browsing the internet for about a half an hour and my battery percentage was even higher when I was done.
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Forgot to mention I got it off of amazon for $4.66 after shipping and I said rom when I meant operating system haha. Also was using bluetooth mouse and keyboard not just had Bluetooth turned on
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How well does the battery hold up with local video, streaming, gaming?
I haven't been doing much gaming lately and I don't have netflix anymore and the only videos I have on the phone are short clips for showing friends, so I'm not sure but if I get Netflix back or decide to game out on this thing I'll let you know.
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