I'm asking because I see development only for the 5.0 version
May want to search a little more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377771
This was on the first page of the development forum, 4th one down (not counting the sticky threads)
Edit: Wait...What are you talking about you only see development for 5.0? The tread I linked you to you have replied to multiple times. Are you really not seeing what you are replying to or is your memory starting to slip?
I own the 4.0 version and I like it.
I own a 4.0, but it is my first Android device, so I am still learning how to hack and mod. There is Steve's kernal, which is about it as far as rom stuff. Custom roms seem a little overrated to me; first thing people ask when they get a device is "what's the best rom?". In truth, android is pretty darn easy to hack, modify, and theme without any rom so long as you can root. I guess some people are just to lazy/busy to figure it out themselves, so they wait for someone else to put the modifcations into a rom for them. My motto is if "if you want something done right, do it yourself".
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I own a 4.0, but it is my first Android device, so I am still learning how to hack and mod. There is Steve's kernal, which is about it as far as rom stuff. Custom roms seem a little overrated to me; first thing people ask when they get a device is "what's the best rom?". In truth, android is pretty darn easy to hack, modify, and theme without any rom so long as you can root. I guess some people are just to lazy/busy to figure it out themselves, so they wait for someone else to put the modifcations into a rom for them. My motto is if "if you want something done right, do it yourself".
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i couldve swore i saw you excited when someone mentioned a cyanogenmod port....
Yea, cyanogen would be nice, but I'm getting sick of people posting and sending pm to me saying "what's the best rom for this?" and "where are all the roms for this?" Don't get me wrong, roms are nice, but going on and on about them instead of making them yourself is pretty rediculous!
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Yea, cyanogen would be nice, but I'm getting sick of people posting and sending pm to me saying "what's the best rom for this?" and "where are all the roms for this?" Don't get me wrong, roms are nice, but going on and on about them instead of making them yourself is pretty rediculous!
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lol. its kinda hard to even learn how to. i know people and if i didnt my electronics wouldnt be so fast.
Ugh, I give up. You shouldn't be on a developers forum if your not willing to help develop!
iJimaniac said:
Ugh, I give up. You shouldn't be on a developers forum if your not willing to help develop!
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just because i cant provide coding help doesnt mean i cant help! ive already helped a few people out with some problems they had
Good for you! Keep up the good work and we'll have a booming little community in no time! Sometimes I get a little bummed out about the lack of major development but, I'm still happy with my little player! Sorry about the explosion of wrath
MTP device error
Thought I would post this here in case anyone was having any trouble getting the Galaxy Player 4.0 (YP-G1) to connect to Kies using Windows (I'm on 7, 32bit). It was for a Samsung phone model but it works for the Player also.
http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-vista/fail-to-install-mtp-device-driver/8111.html#postfp
matthewtommasi December 31, 2010 at 20:56:35 Pacific
Here are the instructions on connecting your Samsung Wave GT-S8500 phone to Kies.
1. Close Kies
2. Remove phone and USB from PC
3. Select Samsung Kies under Settings > Connectivity > USB > Samsung Kies
4. Press and hold menu button on the phone > select 'end all applications'
5. Connect phone to USB
6. Connect USB to PC (I am running Windows 7 64 Bit)
7. Windows will automatically install MTP driver and opens up its own window to manipulate the contents of the phone
8. Now start Kies --> it will now recognize the phone
Done!
sorry to revive this old thread but can anyone explain why the 4.0 gets very little development 'progress'? I mean I remember the 5.0 got ICS in no time and is already om jb. it had to do with sources and samsung...right?
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sorry to revive this old thread but can anyone explain why the 4.0 gets very little development 'progress'? I mean I remember the 5.0 got ICS in no time and is already om jb. it had to do with sources and samsung...right?
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Don't know if it's the 4.0 that have little dev progress or just you that haven't seen the news since quite a while ago... we have JB 4.1 and a 3.0 kernel is in the works.
Also to answer your question I think you seem to forget a little detail. We're only 2 (or more like 1 and a half) compared to the 5.0 where's a they're 3 or 4.
I know that and maybe I'm not remembering correctly but I clearly remember there was some problem with porting ics to the 4.0 while it arrived a year before on the 5.0 and it had nothing to do with people involved. But then again I might be wrong
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I know that and maybe I'm not remembering correctly but I clearly remember there was some problem with porting ics to the 4.0 while it arrived a year before on the 5.0 and it had nothing to do with people involved. But then again I might be wrong
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Yeah because at this time, nearly no one was experimented enough to do it.
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I own the 4.0, and like Zac said, there's been quite a bit of development progress the last few months.
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As title, anyone know when? I see some tablet from HTX or Galaxy already have it!
we'll have it the samsung way. i.e when ice cream comes out, we'll be given the 3.2 update to 'cheer up'.
I won't mind if the tab doesn't see 3.2
I just want ICS when it is released. But of course with Samsungs track record, that'll be next year ;P
how do you guys know we will be getting ics? Have it been mentioned somewhere?
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how do you guys know we will be getting ics? Have it been mentioned somewhere?
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Wishful thinking!?!?!
It'll come when it comes... Why is everyone always crying about when the next update to a device will come?????
I don't really have any issues with my Tab now. I love it, works perfect and does just about everything I need it to do. I haven't even rooted it yet and really haven't had a reason to either.
Instead of worrying about when the next update is coming just try and enjoy what you got.
Anyway every time an update comes for any device (either tablet or phone) the post about "how it wasn't what was expected" or "its buggy" or its..... Well ya... Anyway all those threads start clogging up the forums. But I have to admit those threads do make for some good reading....
On second thought... COME ON SAMMY!!!!! Give em an update already....
Side note: please feel free to flame!!!
Sent from my Galaxy10.1 TouchWiz/ADWex equipped Starship.
Oh man... Just got a look at "thriller99"s profile.... One post... LoL and not to mention after rereading his post he mentions the fact that a "HTX and Galaxy" had the 3.2 update.... I think I's smell a troll!!!!!
Sent from my Galaxy10.1 TouchWiz/ADWex equipped Starship.
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how do you guys know we will be getting ics? Have it been mentioned somewhere?
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I had read in another thread that google made an agreement with manufacturers that they have to give updates to the newest version of Android within 18 months of it's release. Now then they said "It's release" I hope they mean the device, and not the Android version.
But I don't see why we wouldn't get ICS, as it'll really help in terms of Android tablet sales, because it will bring on a TON more apps for the tablets, which is the weak point in terms of Android tablets selling.
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As title, anyone know when? I see some tablet from HTX or Galaxy already have it!
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Make a donation to PhantomHacker, he is working on a vanilla 3.2 ROM. As for the other questions, we will see ICS running on Tab eventually, the devs will make sure.
The dev's can only develop if they have the source. But that's not the only hurdle! The dev's will also need Samsung drivers for the tab 10.1 too. To get both we need Samsung to release an ICS kernel source (I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong). You can see what happens without the source now as the 10.1 development is pretty much stagnant.
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Wishful thinking!?!?!
It'll come when it comes... Why is everyone always crying about when the next update to a device will come?????
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Yeah, I get the sense that a good portion of users here don't really even do much with their devices other than futz around with rooting, fllash alternate ROMs, and obsess over benchmark scores. It's good to optimize your tablet/phone/magic wand but the point of these things is to use the apps, mainly.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
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Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
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ya, sr for this issue.
To all: why need to care about my profile?
I don't know my Tab got issue or the OS or ..? Cause: view HD video, sometime the video are freeze but the sound are okay, quit the video player then the sound of video still playing =) Need to restart Tab to view again, anyone got it as me ?
I had an Asus Transformer which was quickly updated to Honeycomb 3.2 to be really truthful aside from transitions being a bit smoother I didn't notice much difference in day to day performance over 3.1. I'm much more intersted in seeing Samsung get ICS pushed out asap as soon as it is ready.
Guys can someone tell me is ther fully working 4.0 android for galaxy s2 or will it be can some one give me a dl link whit all stuff for me to install it ?
Seriously? Are too lazy to look in development?
Catic said:
Guys can someone tell me is ther fully working 4.0 android for galaxy s2 or will it be can some one give me a dl link whit all stuff for me to install it ?
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Hello. Yes, there is a fully working Android 4.0 ROM for the Galaxy S2 - you can download it (with instructions) here.
Enjoy.
try this http://www.samsung-galaxy-s2-android.com/index.html I have been using the beta 1.1 and its great. Give it a try you will not regret it.
wisey38 said:
try this I have been using the beta 1.1 and its great. Give it a try you will not regret it.
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Does this have working portable hotspot and tethering? and does the phone read the sd card correctly for music and gallery?
everything is working for me except the video recorder and some video play back is choppy. i was surprised by how good its working for me. Battery life seems to be good to.
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Seriously? Are too lazy to look in development?
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No i am not but there are too many different android 4.0 don't know what is the best ....
Catic said:
No i am not but there are too many different android 4.0 don't know what is the best ....
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Just read them, rather than ask other people to read them for you.
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No i am not but there are too many different android 4.0 don't know what is the best ....
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Ignorance is bliss .
ICS Android 4 has not been released by Samsung .
XDA have a leaked ICS v KP8 Beat test rom not everything works that's why its not released .
You can install or one of the custom roms built around this . But its not for noobs and will of course void your warranty .
jje
I installed it 1 time and i was not happy whit it so i got back to official stuff xD
I found the latest CM9 build from Codeworkx to be stable enough as a daily use ROM. But I prefer TouchWiz to vanilla, so I switched back. It was very smooth though.
Bwahahaaaahahahahahaha Gold.
soulicro said:
Hello. Yes, there is a fully working Android 4.0 ROM for the Galaxy S2 - you can download it (with instructions) here.
Enjoy.
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Guys can someone tell me is ther fully working 4.0 android for galaxy s2 or will it be can some one give me a dl link whit all stuff for me to install it ?
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Why would you want to go with 4.0 when 5.0 leaked already?! Find it in all its glory here.
buddy do not listen to any of the above posts...here is a link to what you need. it is stable and smooth..trust me its my new daily driver. Click here buddy it is the latest build of ICS Link for latest ICS build
You are all gits. Give him a break, it's a reasonable question due to all the different versions flying round.
Try this thread.
Rather than being smartasses, why not give the guy an actual answer? If you think that said 'noobs' will be re educated by repeatedly posting that video, you're delusional. Either that or you genuinely think the same joke is funny after the 3rd time in a row, in which case, you're still delusional.
With this kind of attitude rife, nobody will learn to use the forum correctly or get the answers they want, creating yet more noobs.
To answer OPs question - no, there is no official ICS builds
from samsung yet. You're welcome to try a leaked build or Cyanogenmod 9, which I personally find stable enough for daily use. If you want real stability with every feature functional, however, you're going to have to wait to the official version from Samsung.
Next time, to avoid this immature nonsense, do a quick search and browse the development forum.
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Rather than being smartasses, why not give the guy an actual answer? If you think that said 'noobs' will be re educated by repeatedly posting that video, you're delusional. Either that or you genuinely think the same joke is funny after the 3rd time in a row, in which case, you're still delusional.
With this kind of attitude rife, nobody will learn to use the forum correctly or get the answers they want, creating yet more noobs.
To answer OPs question - no, there is no official ICS builds
from samsung yet. You're welcome to try a leaked build or Cyanogenmod 9, which I personally find stable enough for daily use. If you want real stability with every feature functional, however, you're going to have to wait to the official version from Samsung.
Next time, to avoid this immature nonsense, do a quick search and browse the development forum.
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Some good points, however a bit of mickey taking should be expected
I am running the CM9 ICS ROM and it is very good even at this early stage. Bits like audio out through the Sammy car dock aren't working (as you'd expect) and the video issues are annoying but not show stoppers IMO so I'm using this as my daily driver for now and will see what the battery life is like.
The only real way is to do a backup and try it out for yourself.
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Rather than being smartasses, why not give the guy an actual answer? If you think that said 'noobs' will be re educated by repeatedly posting that video, you're delusional. Either that or you genuinely think the same joke is funny after the 3rd time in a row, in which case, you're still delusional.
With this kind of attitude rife, nobody will learn to use the forum correctly or get the answers they want, creating yet more noobs.
To answer OPs question - no, there is no official ICS builds
from samsung yet. You're welcome to try a leaked build or Cyanogenmod 9, which I personally find stable enough for daily use. If you want real stability with every feature functional, however, you're going to have to wait to the official version from Samsung.
Next time, to avoid this immature nonsense, do a quick search and browse the development forum.
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I'll tell you why.
More and more people are coming to these forums, and disregard everything that's posted. They jump in, create a thread, ask the same questions, and expect us to do the work for them.
If this specific user took the 15 minutes to read, he would quickly understand that there are two versions of ICS for the GS2 - leaked builds from Samsung, and CM9. He would also quickly understand that none of these are "full working ROMs".
However, seeing as he couldn't bother himself for 15 minutes to at least try and figure things out on his own, I definitely can't be bothered to write a valid response and to encourage that kind of behavior.
The video basically says "search before you post". He should search before he posts. It isn't funny, it isn't a joke, its actually pretty sad the video had to be created in the first place. But it was created, and it does exist, and so I'll use it whenever its appropriate.
XDA is not anybody's personal tech support - this is not a 1-800 number to dial if you're having problems or questions regarding your device. It is, though, an enormous hub of information that is readily available to anyone who's willing to put in the tiny bit of effort required to properly use it.
Soulicro well said put it in a nutshell .
Let Rolling star answer this same question 400 times in a month dont mind ten times a day .
jje
Hey guys,
I'm on the lookout for a good kernel.
Which kernel you you say is the best for my needs?
Need:
Over-/Underclockable
Over-/Undervolt
GPU renedring
GPU Over-/Underclock
small and compact
Dualboot would be nice aswell, as I am trying to stay stock, but yet I am making a custom ROM... (Both with root)
If you could help me, I would be greatful...
And, maybe you could also give me a few tips, on where to code Android on a Windows Machine, Linux isn't really my cup of tea, you see...
But, it really needs to be flashable via Odin(because the Siyah recovery isn't all that good, but I don't want to downgrade, just get a complete new kernel)
familyguy59 said:
Hey guys,
I'm on the lookout for a good kernel.
Which kernel you you say is the best for my needs?
Need:
Over-/Underclockable
Over-/Undervolt
GPU renedring
GPU Over-/Underclock
small and compact
Dualboot would be nice aswell, as I am trying to stay stock, but yet I am making a custom ROM... (Both with root)
If you could help me, I would be greatful...
And, maybe you could also give me a few tips, on where to code Android on a Windows Machine, Linux isn't really my cup of tea, you see...
But, it really needs to be flashable via Odin(because the Siyah recovery isn't all that good, but I don't want to downgrade, just get a complete new kernel)
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Actually the Siyah recovery is the same one that Hyperdroid stock kernel uses as well and i have not had any complaints with it so far. And another thing. No point me telling you what kernel to go because what might work for me might not work for you.
Search
Read
Try and
Enjoy
Those are the only way you can get to learn and find out the awesomeness of Android. By playing about and finding out stuff on your own. You seem to know what you are doing and talking about so instead of opening threads take the time to actually read and ask the appropriate questions in the corresponding threads..
That is the only way i got to learn and still learning.
Those are the only way you can get to learn and find out the awesomeness of Android. By playing about and finding out stuff on your own. You seem to know what you are doing and talking about so instead of opening threads take the time to actually read and ask the appropriate questions in the corresponding threads..
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To be really honest, I'm not an Android fan at all... I'm just using it... And I'm waiting for WP7 to come to the GS II, I've tried nearly every kernel, don't like any of them, really... I'm just asking for help, and it just needs to have the criteria listed in my thread... But still thx
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To be really honest, I'm not an Android fan at all... I'm just using it... And I'm waiting for WP7 to come to the GS II, I've tried nearly every kernel, don't like any of them, really... I'm just asking for help, and it just needs to have the criteria listed in my thread... But still thx
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I think you bought the wrong phone if you are waiting for WP7 to come to the galaxy s2 as it is a totally different operating system and no way it can be ported over. So you might as well sell your phone now and go and buy a Nokia Lumnia if you do not like android and want WP7.
So what you just mentioned above the only kernel that i would recommend is Siyah. But you have to give it at least a few days or a week to actually get the full benefit of a kernel not a day or two. But anyway down to you i just thought i give you my opinion. Best of luck anyway
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I'm waiting for WP7 to come to the GS II
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So far in the last hour you've made a thread claiming to stop the custom binary counter increasing, a thread claiming you can root your phone by typing "adb root", and now this.
Today is a new low.
oinkylicious said:
So far in the last hour you've made a thread claiming to stop the custom binary counter increasing, a thread claiming you can root your phone by typing "adb root", and now this.
Today is a new low.
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Right, whatever your name is, just f**k off,man! What sort of f**ker are you?!
Try all this yourself, and then you'll see!
Do you know what? The only "low" here, is you... -.-*
We suggest trying kernels until you find one you like.
Closed.
Hello I'm a newb!
I'm sorry, but this is the unfortunate state I find myself in.
When I first found this site, what I was expecting to find was a ICS for my phone. I could not have guessed what I would learn here. I had no idea I had a counter in my phone to worry about when installing open sourced roms? Next after much more reading I am to learn the source code Google releases is not complete, and uses binary drivers? Now I am to learn about CIQ, and my phone is spying on me? Wow!
Before I say anything else I want to express my thanks to this community. This has been such a resource I had no idea that it would be when I started. Thank you!
Now on to my question that after learning about all of that I don't seem to have a clear answer to. What I wanted when I first considered getting an Android phone, was to build from source, and run my own rom. I still want this, even more so since I learned about CIQ.
1. Due to the counter on my phone
2. I am to understand multiple images that make the phone work (boot, firmware, system)
3. The binary drivers.
Is this at all a reasonable goal?
Are there more flash images that I haven't read about yet?
Would having a direct from Google rom even be desirable?
I own a stock SGH-I777, I have done nothing to it yet.
Lastly about this site:
Is there anything you think I should read about on the forums?
Any language I should know, as in what does hellraiser imply/mean?
Any Android experience you think might benefit a could be developer?
Counter can be reset and avoided all together.
Sorry I don't know much about AOSP building, but your better off starting with compiling CM and learn from there unless you are really experienced in coding.
Speaking of, the image used to not increment the counter does, or does not still contain CIQ? I suspect it does? I would like a phone at some point w/o CIQ, and fully open source. Ty for reminding me.
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Speaking of, the image used to not increment the counter does, or does not still contain CIQ? I suspect it does? I would like a phone at some point w/o CIQ, and fully open source.
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AT&T Galaxy S2 SGH-I777 has never had CIQ.
LiLChris06 said:
AT&T Galaxy S2 SGH-I777 has never had CIQ.
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I'm shocked AT&T choose not to bug their customers? I assumed since I saw mention of it being on Samsung, that it was on all their phones?
NEME5I5 said:
I'm shocked AT&T choose not to bug their customers? I assumed since I saw mention of it being on Samsung, that it was on all their phones?
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No it was just some phones, I think the skyrocket had it at some point.
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Ok, so I rooted my first cell phone. It would seem heimdall latest has a bug that will brick your phone. (I'm on Mac OS Lion) I used the 1.3.1 instead, and it worked fine.
I saw many more sites, and this was quite easy. The way they showed it was very complex. Since I'm new at this should I wait to try out a ICS rom till after Samsung releases their source code, and the devs have had a chance to get it stable? How complete is the open source version of ICS? There was a note on the fsf.org page that linked me over here that some of the parts were still binary. Is it still true?
I think long term I want to get away from the official releases.
Well, you came this far, might as well flash an ICS rom now. If the leaks are any indication of status, the Samsung release will be pretty stable but the included kernel is problematic because it can cause hardbricking. Besides, you want to get away from stock, and all of the big roms released thus far are pretty darn stable; I don't know anything about binary parts or any of the coding, but plenty of people have no problem running CM or AOKP. Even the Samsung-based roms all look AOSP-like nowadays because they use Apex or Nova (not many devs like Touchwiz anymore). So take your pick, they're all good roms and most look like AOSP to some extent, with a few (mainly CM and AOKP) striving for pure AOSP.
Make sure to read and follow this guide carefully for flashing stuff, and have fun!
Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Read, read, and read some more. If you don't understand the post above then there is no way you would be able to compile a rom for this phone, which is what I gathered from your op
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Yeh. Just give me the new thing! I want that shiny biscuit! Zomg! "Check MY device out. Its got AOKP on it. BAM.". "Oh cool how does that work?". "Pfft who cares. Its shiny!!!"
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NEME5I5 said:
Ok here is where I have a problem. I have no idea about half of what you said? I know AOSP means "Android open source project" by inference of another reply. I even think CWM means "clockwork mod." (don't even know what this is yet) Saw a youtube video that mentioned it.
What is hard bricking, and what should I read to prevent it? I came here for a ICS rom, and it sounds like the two trying to be most open source are my preference.
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Prother, by no mean to offense you, but seriously, if you don't know those fundamental technical terms, I strongly suggest you to hold off what you about to do and spend more time reading.
Let me go off and do a search the post for you, where you can get used to those terms.
Hang tight, prother.
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Read, read, and read some more. If you don't understand the post above then there is no way you would be able to compile a rom for this phone, which is what I gathered from your op
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So I will. To be honest I don't see the connection between the new jargon, and development I learn in school. There is definately much to learn here. I was expecting this to be like Zaurus development from back when I was active, it's very clear to me that this is a very different beast.
Here is one, I'm sure there is other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228&highlight=abbreviation
votinh said:
Here is one, I'm sure there is other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466228&highlight=abbreviation
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Thank you friend. I may not have my own rom at the end of summer, but I should be on my way to understanding what would be needed for one.
Well the terms I wanted are not present on that list, most of that I was familiar with. To be honest, some of it I have not seen before as well. What is hellraiser, and some of the other xda developed jargon? I do have a tab open to that part of the forums, I just hadn't made it over there yet. I started on the forums for my device, then Android OS, and lastly general. Is there any other place I should pay special attention to that would help me?
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Yeh. Just give me the new thing! I want that shiny biscuit! Zomg! "Check MY device out. Its got AOKP on it. BAM.". "Oh cool how does that work?". "Pfft who cares. Its shiny!!!"
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Ok? I'm not sure I understand, is there something you don't like about the aokp rom that doesn't work very well?
I want off of the carrier provided images based on personal conviction. Google's development practices smack of cathedral, as do all of the 3rd party companies. In a sense they are abusing the spirit of free software by using a signed kernel to impede (if not actually prevent) our right to modify hardware we own. Any normal user of the software provided by the community (bazaar) can only help the cause.
I plan to share what I personally learn with close friends who live in my area. The more people we liberate, the better for everyone else. I simply applaud the work done here.
You can safely ignore Phalanx's post, he's just mocking you and other new users for not reading carefully and being stupid. You're at least trying to read and understand stuff, so I don't see any reason you should be put down the way he's doing so.
Here are a couple other links I think you'll find useful (please click my thanks button if you agree!):
ROM vs Kernel
Odex vs Deodex
Make sure to read all of the links posted in the sticky at the top of this forum, too. But note that by no means is this everything you need to read.
Mind you, all this reading is meant mostly for end-users, so that we learn how to safely and smartly modify our phones. Actual original developing beyond using what's already provided by the devs is a whole different story, and I'm sure there's even more to read up on that.
Good luck, happy flashing, and if you plan to develop later down the line, good luck with that too!
karate104 said:
You can safely ignore Phalanx's post, he's just mocking you and other new users for not reading carefully and being stupid. You're at least trying to read and understand stuff, so I don't see any reason you should be put down the way he's doing so.
Here are a couple other links I think you'll find useful (please click my thanks button if you agree!):
ROM vs Kernel
Odex vs Deodex
Make sure to read all of the links posted in the sticky at the top of this forum, too. But note that by no means is this everything you need to read.
Mind you, all this reading is meant mostly for end-users, so that we learn how to safely and smartly modify our phones. Actual original developing beyond using what's already provided by the devs is a whole different story, and I'm sure there's even more to read up on that.
Good luck, happy flashing, and if you plan to develop later down the line, good luck with that too!
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Ty for all your help. I'm glad you're all so thorough, it was like peeling an onion. The more I was looking at rooting my phone, the more there was to learn. All of you have done an amazing job making this approachable to a brand new user.
Ah I don't assume anymore about what people are trying to say, not everyone is a native english speaker. So I try to be understanding.
Yup I'll be at this for a while, I'm happy to have made some introductions, and maybe some time down the road I can even hope to contribute in some small way.
From a relative noob:
Follow the directions in the " [GUIDE] How to Flash Custom Binaries Without Ever Incrementing the Flash Counter!! " thread. Then pick a rom you want to try and follow the CWM directions ... after that , find a ROM you like. If you don't want to void your warranty, wait for your carrier to provide the closest thing to what you want ... but, I'm happy with my flashed ICS ROM.
NEME5I5 said:
Ty for all your help. I'm glad you're all so thorough, it was like peeling an onion. The more I was looking at rooting my phone, the more there was to learn. All of you have done an amazing job making this approachable to a brand new user.
Ah I don't assume anymore about what people are trying to say, not everyone is a native english speaker. So I try to be understanding.
Yup I'll be at this for a while, I'm happy to have made some introductions, and maybe some time down the road I can even hope to contribute in some small way.
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Just like everyone else has said. Read read read. Search for answers for your questions before you ask on forums. U will be fine as long as u can read and follow simple directions. Good luck to u. If u haven't flashed a rom yet I would recommend aokp. Awesome rom.
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i know i posted up earlier about the red border. Everything is good now. I just now have questions about this phone and its development stages. Since for some reason i cant post in dev page. I have to ask here.
So i was half tempted to not get this phone simply because i browsed the threads and saw no real roms or kernals that do anything fancy. I come from an evo 3d and could flash a rom every single day if i wanted because there were so many. I know this phone is new how new im still not sure upon. I see a real lack of any development on here. The best you can get is turning your og into a nexus 4 and than have cm 10.1 with the downside of only 8gigs of storage period. Well that was the whole reason i did not just pick up the htc one x was because there was no expandable memory and at most you had 10g of internal storage and thats it! so whats going on here? I know alot about the scene and though i have no coding experience myself nor rom building experience. I do love to test roms and i really want a not a stock feel to the phone. Where is the overclocking, where is the transperent status bar, where is anything to make this phone really stick out from stock? Hell i was running jb 4.2 on my evo 3d. Now im stuck being back on ICS? How is this possible that there is not stable jb port to this phone that is properly working. I have 14 days to return this phone. And with people releasing roms that the camera does not work, and storage is crap, and no overclocking support, is it because this is not the phone i thought it could be? Am i not doing enough research. Im currently rooted, unlocked, and running nocturnal limited, and i still feel stock and still 4.04.
Is this phone going to be heavily dev supported like the evo 3d is still today or should i return it and get a phone like the htc one that actually has dev support. All the roms i have seen for this phone is almost complete garbage interms of what this phone should be capable of. And the idea of turning into a nexus 4 is the most idiotic thing i ever heard.... let me change my phone to be another phone? Who wanted that and why did they just not go and get the nexus 4? I may be ranting but i could have got the htc one for .99 as opposed to the $100 i paid to sign a contract with att. I want to know if i am really getting jipped here. Is this not the phone plenty rave about? If your on this site there is no way you want a stock feeling phone and thats what i feel we are getting. I donated to get the freegee app to find out there is no good roms therefor no need to unlock the bootloader so i can flash roms that are not here..........
please dont come at me like a hard a$$ and talk crap, im simply expressing an opinion and asking questions. I loved my evo3d and if i have to carry both around because my 3 year old phone is 10 times better than this optimus im going to be upset. I would just like someone to explain what is in the works with this phone, and if and when there will be some real dev support and why there is almost non at the moment. It sad when devs are still all over the 3d posting new roms everyday, and this one has 5 that are garbage?
thank you for your actual intelligent responses, and cant wait for some nerd raging on me for blasting this out like this. Im simply being real.
Try reading this forum for the answers to your questions. Then maybe sell your OG to someone who appreciates it and knows what to do with it. Sounds like you'd be better off with a SG3. Good luck.
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Wow.... I'll take your OG if you don't want it. Seriously, I will.
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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exactly the responses i was expecting lol.....
Its clearly obvious i have read the forums as i am rooted, unlocked with twrp and nocturnal limited rom... so thank you for pointing out how much i have not read.
As for the sg3...... well thats is just an over priced piece of trash everyone i know hates them.... so thanks but piss off...
as for your iphone comment... only mainstream looooooosers have iphones as they are for the dumb...
no you may not have my optimus if i do anything with it , it will go back to att and ill get a htc one x+ at least people are doing things or at least talking of things they are doing.
HTC has huge dev support and this being my first LG i knew it was going to take some getting used to. I was just hoping for a little more out of this highly praised machine. It is a great phone, i will not say its not. I just was expecting from such a great phone a huge dev following of which i do not see. I see about 5 different roms, a custom cwm touch recovery, and hmmm..... turning your optimus into a nexus.. For you thinking that i am bashing on lg and should give it away.... there is people here pretending there phones are different phones... "hey look i know it says lg but is totally a nexus!" I can download a launcher that makes my phone look like a windows phone.... but hmmmm how dumb is that? At the end of this rant, i was curious as to what anyone knows about the future of the development on this phone. Clearly you do not have answers because that would take thinking, your idiotic comments and replys did nothing to offer any sort of answer nor did it show your IQ being anywhere near that of a 10 year old..
I clearly posted i await your nerd rage and therefore clearly enjoy it, however this thread was not started with the sole intent of it being a bickering fest. I wanted some serious answers, and I tried to express myself and thoughts on this phone along with questions that involved the future of this phone.
I am a flashaholic, i love to make my phones the best they can be. I love anything custom! So if you wanna cry about my thoughts on the phone cry, ill bring you a tissue, otherwise offer some real insight into what this phone is all about, and hopefully where this phone might be heading. Otherwise take your trolling, crying , butthurt comments somewhere else, as they are just absolutely humorous to me, and ill will reply accordingly.
Thanks and hope to hear some real comments...
btw: i cant wait for the grammer police comments cause it seems if no one has something good to say, they just like to correct your grammer, sort of like "your a tool" "no, your a tool" and we can definatly take this back to 1st grade if you like.
Joecascio2000 said:
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
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I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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ripbabey said:
look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
by joecascio2000
I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
Joecascio2000 said:
And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
gregk232 said:
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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You sir..... Is your computer broken, are you stuck on my thread and only my thread which is preventing you from looking at anything else, instead of making a dumb rude comment? Stop trolling every thread and post that is on the site.... you talk about giving my life meaning and here you are telling me to stop it? Hmmmm who are you? I asked questions and my personal feelings on the phone thus far, and in no way bashed the phone or its following. I simply asked questions. I posted joes comment because as i read i actually found it useful. So thanks for peeking in this thread but your comments are best left in that pea sized thing rattling around in your giant head some might call a brain.. I asked questions in the Q and A forum......your comment was neither a q nor an a thus GTFO! XDA is where is got a lot of my EVO 3D questions answered and i respect this site. Its arseholes like you that make people scared to ask questions for fear of some ignorant jacka$$ trying to put them down.
I however can not and will not be intimidated, if i have done anything to violate the terms of this forum, please report me and have me banned. Your STOP IT attack was in no way useful.
SO..... STOP IT, JUST STOP IT!
ripbabey said:
never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
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Wish I had better news. We are all eagerly and (in)patiently waiting for the first release of non-stock roms. Unfortunately, it's just a waiting game. Right now it's LG's move and they are taking their sweet little time. We do have a strong dev following. They are lurking in the shadows. We are very fortunate that we have both an international version of this phone and also the Nexus 4. That gives us two pools where ROMs can be ported from. Just like the Nexus S, i9000, and Samsung Captivate. All of which are still going strong. It took time to get things setup for those phones and like I said we are at a disadvantage because LG isn't as "helpful" as Samsung. Development will take off one way or another, we just have to wait.
IMHO though, nobody should be complaining because stock LG is amazing. And the stock ROMs are perfect.
Dude....
Your entire post sounds like one big vagina monologue.
"There is not enough dev support for this phone..... I can't believe we don't have a stable JB ROM..... I want to flash a new rom every day....."
Waaa waaa waaa :crying::crying::crying::crying:
No one is intimidating you.
Just making the point that you obviously did not act like a rational consumer by purchasing a product that does not meet your expectations, then complain about it in the QA section.
Not sure why you needed to create this thread. Return the phone and get something else if you aren't happy with it. It's not rocket science, lol.
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Oh look, it's this thread again
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
chrisphoenix7 said:
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
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Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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gregk232 said:
Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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Yes! In before thread closed!:banghead::banghead::banghead:
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They wouldn't close this thread, it has been nothing but honest, intelligent, mature, informative discussion.
But honestly, this has been asked a lot... We are hoping development will pick up after the source is released and JB hits our device.
But there are no guarantees, it is kind of your fault for picking up a device (great as it may be) that doesn't have 20+ ROMs out for it, you should have looked here first and shied away from the device if development was so important.
Based on what we have heard from devs, the work is being done, it is slow going with no source and nobody wants to work on ICS when JB is coming so soon.
Also, one of the biggest problems here, you called what development we have seen released "garbage," most likely (hopefully) the devs can dismiss that statement as the angry rantings of somebody with a bad filter, but it is still terrible motivation to spur development further.
Work has gone into the development we have seen, it may not have quite the shock and awe factor you are looking for, but they are solid works.
It sounded like you were very unappreciative and then demanded more, maybe not your intention, but that is how it can be construed.
I'm not trying to bash you in any way, but the community does better when there is less... negativity.
Also, no need to be so defensive, you knew you would get the responses you did, should have just let them slide.
chrisphoenix7 said:
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
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dood i agree the i777 forums was a nightmare with all the immaturity attitude around
I get the feeling OP is the kind of guy that complains when he gets free stuff.
As for getting a new phone, good riddance. You really didn't need to make this thread. A lot of us are waiting on custom ROMs and CM10 and all that. You don't see us whining about it like a little girl (no offense ladies )