Just wondering if it's necessary to wipe system/cache/data/dalvik before restoring a Nandroid backup. I was under the impression that the archive is an 'image' which overwrites everything, but just want to be sure.
Thanks!
Technically, no. There's no need to wipe before restoring a nandroid. Your impression is correct.
However, I've read suggestions of wiping prior to flashing images or restoring nandroid images, especially if bugs and/or issues persist. Personally, I think it's mostly voodoo mumbo-jumbo, but I admit I do it myself whenever I want a really really clean install. It only takes a few seconds. I'm still not sure I see any rational reasoning for it, but I may stand corrected.
If you're interested in understanding this kind of stuff a little more, I recommend reading the guide linked in my sig.
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Is there any way to keep some of the apps that come stock on a phone (quick office, for example) if I flash a ROM. In previous experience, with CM7 among others, I found that even when running Titanium Backup and restoring "all missing apps plus data" after flashing, only the apps i downloaded were restored, not the ones that came installed on the phone. Is there any way around this? The same, I suppose goes for widgets. Silly though it may sound, I like some of the native samsung widgets, any way to get those over onto a ROM like CM7? Thanks.
I am not that experienced with android development and the like. I have flashed ROMs before on my captivate and am fairly comfortable doing that much, but beyond that I may need a idiot's guide-style explanation. Thanks.
First of all, if you decide to flash a rom, you will get the apps that the dev put in that particular rom. if you want another app, you'll have to install it yourself. if you did not specifically backup an app with TiBu, it will not restore. I have not tried the samsung widgets on CM7 but something tells me that will not work.
Secondly, you are in the wrong section for this question
my apologies about the wrong section. I presume the Q+A section would make more sense now that I think about, just figured since it had to do with ROMs and whatnot. Sorry again.
If you made a titanium backup while you were on stock, you will have all the stock applciations, including quick office. You should be able to just do a selective restore per application in that case.
If you didn't make a titanium backup while on stock, you can make a nandroid backup of your current setup in cm7, then flash stock plus root, install tibu from the market, make a full backup, install a kernel with cwm recovery, and restore your cm7 nandroid backup. Then you can selectively restore apps from titanium backup.
I have never installed cm7. I assume the directory for the apps will be the same in the cm7 directory structure. If not, it could be a problem.
There is no Q&A forum, so post your questions in general.
Could a moderator please move this to general?
creepyncrawly said:
There is no Q&A forum, so post your questions in general.
Could a moderator please move this to general?
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sure there is....its called:
AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Q&A
You can extract the rom and place the apks you want to be installed in the package then zip. Would probably be easier to use tibu though.
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Pirateghost said:
sure there is....its called:
AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Q&A
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Damn it's been there a whole week and I didn't notice.
Can a moderator please move this to Q&A?
Lately, it seems that batch restore is broken again on Titanium Backup 4.8. Did a reflash of my friend's phone and using the bath restore function, it wouldn't restore anything and the loading bar would load forever. Restore each app one by one didn't work as well. It was broken in 4.7.X as well for me. Does it work for anyone?
go to setting - application - Titanium - clear data
Hope this shud work, many time i have noticed this after updating TB.
Still not working
I think it might be superuser...
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geokilla said:
Still not working
I think it might be superuser...
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I have had this issue before, I tried various methods, the last one, that works with me was use busybox from app, then go back using kernel busybox, in don't remember well because I am on ICS now, and I don't find this option in my TiBu.
In other hand, before this "method" I used to restore first five apps, one by one, and after run all the batch.
Just my two cents.
Switching to Talon kernel fixed it for me.
1. Is it accurate to say "Flash"?
2. I am following these directions: http://www.semaphore.gr/how-to/flash-semaphore-kernel
3. I have Clockwork right now, is this going to interfere with that?
4. Then I install this? http://www.slimroms.com/installation.htm Is Semaphore Clockwork?
5. Titanium Backup saves my stuff to my SD Card, right? So that's safe.
6. When do I reset my battery statistics? Do I need to reinstall Clockwork too?
Is someone around to help one on one? Please?
thehyecircus said:
1. Is it accurate to say "Flash"?
2. I am following these directions: http://www.semaphore.gr/how-to/flash-semaphore-kernel
3. I have Clockwork right now, is this going to interfere with that?
4. Then I install this? http://www.slimroms.com/installation.htm Is Semaphore Clockwork?
5. Titanium Backup saves my stuff to my SD Card, right? So that's safe.
6. When do I reset my battery statistics? Do I need to reinstall Clockwork too?
Is someone around to help one on one? Please?
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Hello Friends and super expert Android devs and users,
I need some serious help with my SMS and MMS restores, moving from one ROM to another. The big reason for this? I currently have close to 47,000 messages in my SMS threads. Last time I restored these to a new ROM, via the XML insertion method using SMSBackup and Restore, for example it took me 48 hours to do so !!! All this being in Airplane mode to make sure nothing is corrupted or interrupted during the restore!
Titanium Backup is not an ideal solution for me either, because, it also takes a while, AND it will not work going from different UIs to UI, for example: Sense Backup to a CM10 restore of messages.
So I KNOW that the secret SHOULD lie in the msssms.db and the appstart folder, which seems to be the universal way Android stores its messages.
So far, the ONLY successful restore I have been able to pull off with the DBs has been this scenario:
1. Backup from a Sense ROM (Copy the providers.telephony folder into an SD)
2. Wipe and Install the SAME ROM
3. Copy the telephony folder using Root Explorer
4. Reboot into recovery, Fix Permissions, and Wipe Cache and Dalvik Cache
5. Reboot phone and then yes, the messages and MMS were there!
However, this process fails EPICALLY for going to other ROMs like:
Restoring this telephony folder OR JUST the mmssms.db and mmssms.journal files to a CM10 or a MIUI ROM, Rebooting in recovery, and then Fix Permissions, and Cache wipes. The outcome? Constant com.android.phone dying and the whole ROM being trashed ...
So... I need some education and desperate education here, guys. What exactly are the RULES and CORRECT (proven methods) of doing a mmssms.db restore? Can we move from OS version to OS? Like GB to JB? How about flavors of UI layers, like Sense to TouchWiz to MIUI and etc? If so, what is the REAL and the RIGHT way of pulling this off?
Other than that, if you experts thing of ANY OTHER way for me to restore 47K messages, while trying and using different ROMs on my phone, WITHOUT being in Airplane mode for 48 hours AND not, not restoring my whole 47K messages, then please feel free to share! I thank you in advance for your immense help!!!
Sorry, but if it's a question then it should be in Q&A.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
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Sorry, but if it's a question then it should be in Q&A.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
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Yeah... you moved it, but as expected... nothing but crickets in this thread !! I can't believe none of the well learned folks here don't have an answer for this question ...
Hi guys,
i'm still very new to this whole Android world and learning each day so please help me understand this problem i'm having. My phone is i9305 (EU model) just for reference.
First off i would like to know if this is possible to do without rooting or hacking since i like to be able to do OTA update and not mess to much with the phone if possible. If this is not possible then i could root. I actually tested rooting using the CF-Auto-root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957273
So What i like to know is how can i backup and restore my phone is the same shape as it is today. I know that i cant back-up my private data without rooting and for now lets say i dont care about that part. What i like is to be able to backup all
- the applications
- my folders and how i can organized everything
- my desktop and how i have organized everything
- everything else like my background and other system settings.
I tried one to do a system restore+clear cache and my phone was reseted as my day one. When i connected to my google account it started downloading all my applications but sadly everything was just dumped in the application window without my previous structure so google dont save any settings. I did get my background and contact/calendar info back which was good.
So does anyone know how one can make a type of backup/restore i'm after?
I tested titanium backup and my Backup (when i had rooted) but didnt see an option for the mentioned features.
ps. Since i used iPhone i'm a bit spoiled, itunes does a great job doing a proper backup with the whole application/user data when making backup and the restore does restore everything like all your settings, background, folders where you organized the applications so i'm looking for something similar in Android. I had expected Kies to do this but it only saves basic stuff which seems to be the same as Google saves in the cloud (like contacts and such)
Grateful for any tips in this regard.
search, all the info is out there for you to read.
you'll need a custom recovery
Glebun said:
search, all the info is out there for you to read.
you'll need a custom recovery
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Thanks i think with your keyword i mange to search for something meaningful
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...-and-how-to-use-it-on-android-complete-guide/
It seems the CWM is the way to go. Seems like a very powerful tools. One thing i still dont know is if it back up the whole OS or just the application/data ?
For instance if i do a backup when i'm on build AB and then install AC and clean my system and do a restore what do i end up with?
AC + all my applications and settings?
or
AB + all my applications and settings?
just search for the definition of nandroid backup, don't expect spoonfeeding
Glebun said:
just search for the definition of nandroid backup, don't expect spoonfeeding
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If you know the answer why not just say it? This type if attitude isn't really helping me (or others as i seen you do the same on other threads). I will search more on it still but please remember why we are in this section and forum in the first place. If i knew what to look for i wouldnt ask. I have searched on the topic it but with thousands of threads its pretty much impossible to get a clear understanding of things and as mentioned i'm not that familiar with Android world.
it might be hard to imagine for you but not everyone are familiar with the rooting and hacking world and all the abbreviations and much of what is discussed is hard to follow for beginners like me.
Atleast if you want to be helpful provide a link or something
vampyren said:
If you know the answer why not just say it? This type if attitude isn't really helping me (or others as i seen you do the same on other threads). I will search more on it still but please remember why we are in this section and forum in the first place. If i knew what to look for i wouldnt ask. I have searched on the topic it but with thousands of threads its pretty much impossible to get a clear understanding of things and as mentioned i'm not that familiar with Android world.
it might be hard to imagine for you but not everyone are familiar with the rooting and hacking world and all the abbreviations and much of what is discussed is hard to follow for beginners like me.
Atleast if you want to be helpful provide a link or something
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Install a custom recovery like clock work mod to do a full back up (nandroid backup). Download Rom manager to install the recovery (must be rooted)
Back up EFS what you can find an app to do.
Use Titanium backup to back up Apps and data.
If you want to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703488
Ashley covered it all. Breakdown:
To back up your ROM you need a custom recovery installed. Boot into it and select backup. This backs up absolutely everything at that moment in time.
-Your ROM settings, apps including data and settings, messages received.
However you can't transfer your app data between ROMs because it's part of an entire image. So you use Titanium to back up (for apps+app data) which can be used all over the place.
You'll want this if you ever switch back to an old ROM as when you restore that ROM you can restore your Titanium to update the app data associated to that ROM.
You can back up your launcher layout if it's third party as it's an app. Touch wiz launcher I don't think so.
Exynos SIII; CM10.1
Don't use rom manager for CWM.. I've seen it brick more phones than anything.
well, I told you want to search for. check the first rule of xda
the easiest i would say would Titanium backup pro. phone needs to be rooted. you sync to dropbox and other clouds.
i always have two back ups one is Titanium and the other is twrp
@Ashley1987, 23Six, xSpeced,Farooq_Chicago
Thank you for your valuable input. I think the conclusion is that titanium backup pro is the best way to go since i want to be able to use different ROMs. And nandroid backup if i want to restore on the same ROM. I actually have bought titanium backup pro so i will "play" with that once i root my phone again (not a big fan of rooting and stuff since i can use OTA update but it seems like the only option).
do you know if i actually get back everything as i have today (including folder structure on desktop and application menu) ?
I spend lots of time on doing this so its good to know before i try to wipe my phone and try
@Glebun, i think someone else need to read the rules as well! if i had to guess i would say you just post to get a high number of post under your name. You dont contribute to the discussion and are somewhat hostile in your posts. This attitude isnt helpful and is not appreciated by anyone. So if you cant help i suggest you simply dont post. And i repeat what i said earlier that i had investigated but when you are new sometimes you need someone to push you in the right direction and advice you which is the point of this forum and section. As you see there are many people who helped me and i appreciate that. You on the other hand just complain and wasted yours and my time on nothing useful. Please think twice before posting next time.