ICS Gmail for froyo - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was wondering if there is any way to install a working version of Gmail like in ICS for a froyo rom? I tried ICS PASSION and that's the first time I saw a Gmail app that looked like that and i liked it. That's why I think it's an ICS app unless its just themed liked that in that rom.
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No, all the ice apps require ics framework.
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geoffcorey said:
No, all the ice apps require ics framework.
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Oh well, I guess I'll have to wait for an ICS port that is stable enough like a froyo rom or have enough money to buy an oficial ics device
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Stable enough? I've had less problems with Passion running on my phone than I did on the 2.2/2.3 ROMs.

YodaEXE said:
Stable enough? I've had less problems with Passion running on my phone than I did on the 2.2/2.3 ROMs.
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I tried passion and really liked it but the call quality was very bad for me, then there was the gps problem after deep sleep. And the battery gauge was going crazy on me too. If it wasn't for the call quality problem I would have stayed on it but I hope that gets fixed on the next update.
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You sure it wasn't a bad flash? My call quality has been just as good with ICS as it was when I was running 2.2.

YodaEXE said:
You sure it wasn't a bad flash? My call quality has been just as good with ICS as it was when I was running 2.2.
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It's always possible but between that the gps which I constantly use and 911 being iffy i decided I'll wait for an update and try again.
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I think Passion will get e911 support, since CM seems to have cracked it. More problematic for me is lack of wifi calling. I use that heavily in summer as cell coverage is abyssmal at the shore house. Other than that, Passion 13 has been great. Like having a new phone. I do like the ICS Gmail GUI.
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My ICS passion is really more stable than froyo used to be. Mute/unmute incoming calls is fixed, so as 911. Just still have problems with GPS and DS.

I just installed euphoria last night and it's giving me better results so far, will have to keep testing to see how it does in a few days.
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[Q] Most stable Froyo Rom?

I've been reading through this for a while and can't seem to find any info on this, of course...it could be due to lack of sleep, but who's counting the hours??
SO...Which of the Froyo Roms out there are the Best/working as far as features go? Running 2.1 Update 1 on mine currently...With xRecovery installed.
I like renderio2005 rom with a gingerbread theme. I had very little problems with it.
But like gingerbread better. Just an opinion
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Right - But isn't there still a couple issues with things working on the Gingerbread roms for this phone?
I'm using Wolfbreak's CM 6.1.3 V4.3 [06-03-11] [Tweaked+Theme+Extras]. For me, its very very stable. Didn't give me any problems until now.
Renderios rom is 2.2. If u were wondering
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Voelker45 said:
I like renderio2005 rom with a gingerbread theme. I had very little problems with it.
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Me too, seems to run good and has good features
Z's Free X10 Beta 4 is probably the most popular and very stable. Other than the camera app and no camcorder, I did not have any problems.
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I'm using Wolfbreak's CM 6.1.3 V4.3 [06-03-11] [Tweaked+Theme+Extras]. For me, its very very stable. Didn't give me any problems until now.
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+1 except for the camera (known issue with all froyo's as far as I can tell).
So is the gingerbread ROM thats out there just as stable as the froyo roms? And are you guys flashing these over with xRecovery?
Wolfbreak's CM 6.1.3 V4.3 is very stable, fast and highly recommended
I use the native camera with no issues and use Vignette if I need to use the camera flash.
I also use the version of Videocam Illusion in the link below for video recording which has been tweaked by the developer to run on our Froyo based X10 roms. The quality isn't great but it's better than not having any video recording facility:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=984925
Lmao you can tell what I'm using by my sig
Yeah I love this ROM, especially with all the added customization you can do through the CyanogenMod Settings Menu, such as change LED colors and easily change themes, it makes it a great ROM :]
Camera works and to take video, you have to use Videocam Illusions with only records in 640x480. But I can deal with that.
question, anyone notice X10's battery drain a lot faster with Froyo roms?
in comparison to stock 2.1 rom
xtbk9999 said:
question, anyone notice X10's battery drain a lot faster with Froyo roms?
in comparison to stock 2.1 rom
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Yeah I've kinda noticed this as well. I suppose its kinda understandable since the froyo roms run a hair faster you know?
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No battery drain on Free X10 Beta 4, for me anyway. I'd say the same or even slightly better.
Im pretty sure that I'm running the Generic 2.1 Update 1 on mine now, The only issue I've got is I'm picking up 4G Speeds throughout Colorado (except up here in the hills) and I'd be more concerned with loosing that when going to one of the custom ROM's...
Could just be me, But this phone SCREAMS when you get that lovely little "H" on the signal bar! Dunno - Maybe I'll try it since I backed up my stock ROM yesterday with xRecovery...We'll just have to see, but it sounds like Wolfbreaks ROM is the best one out there next to the Free Beta4 one...
Thanks for all the input
I use CyanogenMod-6.1.1-v03 and have done for several weeks now, its really stable with a few issues, like the camera (common problem for most roms) and bluetooth sometimes acts a little weird when I try to pair it with my MW600 headset.
Battery drainage is normal, but I use a extended battery with 2600mAh instead of original, so its hard for me to compare.
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Im pretty sure that I'm running the Generic 2.1 Update 1 on mine now, The only issue I've got is I'm picking up 4G Speeds throughout Colorado (except up here in the hills) and I'd be more concerned with loosing that when going to one of the custom ROM's...
Could just be me, But this phone SCREAMS when you get that lovely little "H" on the signal bar! Dunno - Maybe I'll try it since I backed up my stock ROM yesterday with xRecovery...We'll just have to see, but it sounds like Wolfbreaks ROM is the best one out there next to the Free Beta4 one...
Thanks for all the input
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You still get HSPA. If you think your phone flies now, wait until you try 2.2. We would not be on it if it was slower. Speed is basically what you are getting by giving up a fully functional camera and other customizations.
I switch between FreeX10 beta4 and rendeiro's cm6.1.3 and would say they're both pretty stable. I don't have a problem with either one for daily use. I switch back to modded 2.1s for camera and camcorder.
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Diesel984 said:
Im pretty sure that I'm running the Generic 2.1 Update 1 on mine now, The only issue I've got is I'm picking up 4G Speeds throughout Colorado (except up here in the hills) and I'd be more concerned with loosing that when going to one of the custom ROM's...
Could just be me, But this phone SCREAMS when you get that lovely little "H" on the signal bar! Dunno - Maybe I'll try it since I backed up my stock ROM yesterday with xRecovery...We'll just have to see, but it sounds like Wolfbreaks ROM is the best one out there next to the Free Beta4 one...
Thanks for all the input
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I am using renderio2005 theme and recently 3G is started in India and i am enjoying full blown 3G experiance.
Recently have been attending full Web Ex sessions on my phone.
and ya its preety damn stable
THERE IS A FIX FOR CAMCORDER FOR FROYO ROMS...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=994336

whats better than bionix as of now?

what do you guys think is better than TW that i should try, miui?
Miui was pretty cool. Visually appealing but for me some apps didnt work and battery life sucked. I am using phiremod 2.0. It's a cm7 that in my opinion apart from bionix is the best rom I've tried I get great battery life and its really fast and reliable. I've been on it for about 3 months
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If you want a good quality 2.2, check out Toxic8 or Deranged9. Both excellent ROMs with great support and outstanding battery life.
If you want the latest then ICS Passion is where it is at but make sure you are comfortable flashing ROMs, Odin and bootloaders. Oh and read, read, read.
I've been using ics passion 10.6 its great! no rom gives good battery life for me but this isn't any worse than stock 2.2 battery life
I am new to this stuff, but I flashed Zendroid a few days ago and love it. Super solid, no glitches at all yet. I have 25% battery right now after a full day's use and that never happened on stock. I love it, super clean, super smooth. I can't speak to "better" than bionix as I haven't tried that ROM yet. Just know that Zendroid is awesome.
I was on bionix 1.3.1 and was hesitant to try ics passion but the rom is smoother than I ever imagined.
Ok so I was looking at ics, and there's a ton where can get the best rom and kernels or is there a good site I can read about it?
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lilredstang said:
Ok so I was looking at ics, and there's a ton where can get the best rom and kernels or is there a good site I can read about it?
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Just look for the "ICS Passion v11" thread in the Development sub-forum. I recommend the stock kernel, only because it lags for me if I use Eugene's. Results may vary though, so you should try both and see which works best for you.
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I think it really depends on the features that you're looking for. Personally, I don't really see the necessity to jump ship to a GB or ICS rom for the Vibrant just yet (if ever). Someone posted a pretty legit list on Fishman's mod noting the differences between Android versions that you should check out to see if updating is worth it for you.
+1 for bionix from me..
ICS Passion v11 is pretty sleek, but since there's no 1080p video recording I may have to revert back to Bionix.
The Vibrant is a better video recorder than my Flip- I'm not sure why they would cripple the video.
360 productions make some great miui roms. I prefer lithium. you could give those a try
I've been using bionix nextgen v2 for a long long time, and it's fantastic but I'd really like to make the jump to a GB rom.
Mainly because I can't stand the fact that my CM7 Nook Color can run apps that my Galaxy S class phone can't.
Only GB ROM I've tried so far was the first stable CM7 version, but no matter what I tried I couldn't get my GPS to work _at all_. Since I actually make use of my GPS on a fairly regular basis I went back to bionix nextgen.
Can anyone recommend GB or ICS roms that have good GPS performance (meaning they don't have that "turn off GPS once and you have to reboot to get it back" issue)? Been browsing through the roms listed in the dev forum, but I'd also like some extremely fresh personal feedback from other users here.
Thanks in advance all.
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I've been using bionix nextgen v2 for a long long time, and it's fantastic but I'd really like to make the jump to a GB rom.
Mainly because I can't stand the fact that my CM7 Nook Color can run apps that my Galaxy S class phone can't.
Only GB ROM I've tried so far was the first stable CM7 version, but no matter what I tried I couldn't get my GPS to work _at all_. Since I actually make use of my GPS on a fairly regular basis I went back to bionix nextgen.
Can anyone recommend GB or ICS roms that have good GPS performance (meaning they don't have that "turn off GPS once and you have to reboot to get it back" issue)? Been browsing through the roms listed in the dev forum, but I'd also like some extremely fresh personal feedback from other users here.
Thanks in advance all.
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Would also like to know whether such ROM (GB with working GPS) exists...
Since my original post above I've switched to ICS Euphoria. It does have the GPS off = reboot to use it problem, but honestly leaving the GPS switched on all the time does not seem to have a serious impact on my battery life vs what I was getting before. In the end I'm fine making that tradeoff in order to be on modern firmware. ICS is _awesome_ and I don't see myself going back.

[Q] Stay at Android 2.3.4 or go at ICS?

Hello all!
First: sorry for my not quite good english.
Second: I have some type of problem. Actually I have on my SGS Vibrant ROM: Simply Honey Revolution 5.0 based on 2.3.4 android version. Now I'm thinking about uprage to some of ICS versions, like: ICS Passion v12 or Team ICSSGS RC4.1. I don't know what rom is better for me.
In 2.3.4 rom I have almost everything working, except GPS and front camera. Battery life is very good for me. I don't want new issues.
So, someone can help me to decide what I should do? Make upgrade to ICS (and what rom is better for me?) or stay at Simply Honey rom?
Thanks for advice!
Regards.
I had froyo and tried CM7. Didnt like much and went straight to ICS Passion. No regret at all, smoother, faster. It has the mute/unmute issue and you also need to reboot in order that GPS works. But still think that its better than GB 2.3.4 ROM. Didnt try ICSSGS, just Doc's (didnt like that much) and Passion so if you do try ICSSGS, give your thought.
the devs for ICSSGS dont actually have the vibrant. its a port from the i9000 and built off aosp. ics passion is built for the vibrant off cm9 framework. imho, ics passion or ecstasy are the best.
Ahh I see. So, for me better option is make upgrade to ICS. So I will try it. I hope that I won't be disappointed.
Thanks!
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Ahh I see. So, for me better option is make upgrade to ICS. So I will try it. I hope that I won't be disappointed.
Thanks!
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ICS beats any previous Android version by a mile.
The only thing that MIGHT suffer is your gaming performance. I've found that certain games my phone should play don't play as smoothly as intended (I'm talking about graphics intensive games here, like MC3, GTA 3, 9MM). The ROM is still in BETA and there are still some things to work out, but it's a very smooth experience overall.
kdaniels1986 said:
the devs for ICSSGS dont actually have the vibrant. its a port from the i9000 and built off aosp. ics passion is built for the vibrant off cm9 framework. imho, ics passion or ecstasy are the best.
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Yes , Wrong.
Only reason not to go ICS is if you want the CM7 extras like permissions management. Passion or, if you want straight AOSP source, ICSSGS. Good luck.
These ice cream sandwich roms are pretty impressive and run very smooth when installed properly... The passion rom is no longer in beta and is pretty smooth for me.. Everything works except the gps after deep sleep.. Even the mute/unmute issue has been fixed!
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[Q] What would you say the most stable ics rom is??

I was wondering what you guys would say the most stable ics rom is??
Ive been using scotts senseless rom and its been ok just a few problems. before that i had his cleanrom but i just cant like sense that much something about it kinda turns me off..
what do you guys think?
ima add one more question to this thread.. Where i live my signal is finicky as it is but im thinking running ics has made my signal drop is this a problem or is it just me trippin out?
moldaz said:
ima add one more question to this thread.. Where i live my signal is finicky as it is but im thinking running ics has made my signal drop is this a problem or is it just me trippin out?
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I'm running CleanROM 2.3 completely desensed and it's as stable as Gingerbread.
yeah i was thinking about going back to it to many system ui crashes and other lil bugs in the aosp roms is it updated to the 4.0.3 with sense 3.6?
&& how is it desensed?
I really didn't like the battery life on cleanrom 2.x or desensed. I switched to cleanrom 1.6.5 and getting nice battery life.
I found Nils business sense ICS to be the most stable. But the small pluses of ICS didn't make the cut compared to the battery life and ease of use of Gingerbread. Especially once the new wore off. Back to CleanROM 1.6.5 for me too!
All of the ics roms have the same root issues really- that being blue screen flicker, etc. I'm on nils currently cause I like his out of the box notification mods.
Ics rules but I think may go back to gb (until an official) for some issues that are irking me. Vid chat doesn't work on skype, gchat, etc. Can't crop pics or do certain effects in the gallery. Beats eq is not working correctly. Again, most of these are probs that follow all of the ics roms and the devs have done a fantastic job -but I may just end up going back until these talented folks get their hands on an official build. I think they've reached a point where there's not a whole lot left to do with this current build. But like I said, what they've managed to do with this early build is damned amazing.
i flashed back to clean rom and desensed removed everything and so far it seems alot more stables im not getting any word that things are crashing even when making calls like it did before not to shabby i say plus the gallery from the camera i was having that problem in senslessrom
You guys running ICS, can someone confirm whether the folders are the new ICS folders like the Gnex has.
do you mean the folders in the launcher? then yes if you have the stock ics launcher
I'm loving Business-ICS
The skins, overall stability is pretty awesome. The one huge issue is battery life. On stock, I had it to where I could get at average just under 2 days of battery with my extended (2750mah) battery. With this ROM, with almost nothing running, and leaving the screen low-use, and LTE turned off, etc, I still can't get more than 6 hours at BEST on a full charge! Is anyone else seeing this? Do I need to look at flashing to a ziggy kernel or something? Or is it just part of the leaked ICS that the devs have to work from?
I was getting 10 hours on my stock battery running senseless ics rom with a hour of navigation and pandora on pretty much the whole time (lte disabled) +texting+ facebook and what ever else and i was left with more than 25 %
I've been using Scott's senseless since it was launched its an awesome rom but alot of fc's figured I'd try tachi's senseless 4.0 (which is based off one if Scott's roms) with the USB fix and HTC mms fix and runs super stable best senseless ics I've tried so far. Sounds like there are some pretty good rooms on the way though. Feel free to try them all out and find what you like best though.
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My personal favorites would have to be by NilsP, lllboredlll, and Scrosler. All are pretty stable roms.
I've been holding out on trying any roms, still on stock. Just the topic I need to follow here
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hondapowergt30r said:
I've been using Scott's senseless since it was launched its an awesome rom but alot of fc's figured I'd try tachi's senseless 4.0 (which is based off one if Scott's roms) with the USB fix and HTC mms fix and runs super stable best senseless ics I've tried so far. Sounds like there are some pretty good rooms on the way though. Feel free to try them all out and find what you like best though.
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I must echo that Tachi's 4.0 rom is pretty good (with the fixes). I can't wait until we get a fully working AOSP rom. Scott's are good as well (the CleanROM 2.3 is actually a bit better than the Senseless, but... has Sense).
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The skins, overall stability is pretty awesome. The one huge issue is battery life. On stock, I had it to where I could get at average just under 2 days of battery with my extended (2750mah) battery. With this ROM, with almost nothing running, and leaving the screen low-use, and LTE turned off, etc, I still can't get more than 6 hours at BEST on a full charge! Is anyone else seeing this? Do I need to look at flashing to a ziggy kernel or something? Or is it just part of the leaked ICS that the devs have to work from?
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I do get worse battery life on ICS (running cleanrom 2.2sp1), but not that bad, I still get 10-16 hours before swapping extended batteries.
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do you mean the folders in the launcher? then yes if you have the stock ics launcher
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Yes, I'm talking about the launcher. When I had the GNex and I created a folder, it showed the icons stacked on top of each other rather than the plain folder that GB has. So the stock ICS launcher on the Rezound shows the icons like the GNex does? I'm asking because I was worried that Sense would not have that feature.
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Yes, I'm talking about the launcher. When I had the GNex and I created a folder, it showed the icons stacked on top of each other rather than the plain folder that GB has. So the stock ICS launcher on the Rezound shows the icons like the GNex does? I'm asking because I was worried that Sense would not have that feature.
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sense doesnt offer this but you can get the aosp launcher pretty easy theres desense scripts that you can run for ics that will give you all this
I think I might help
do not get ics all are unstable and i bricked my phone doing this well my friends extra phone I had to wipe the phone completely clen and starting over. I am downloading all roms tring to find something that works again. but like all post ineffabilis is the only one that comes close to restoreing the phone. I will update later to see if I can restore a dead phone but leave ics only until offical update.

[Q] Favorite ICS ROM?

Alright, everyone. You knew this was coming. What's your favorite ICS ROM so far and why do you like it? I've only tried ICS Passion, but it's pretty slick. As a side note, please share whether or not your favorite ROM supports USB mass storage for the SD card. Passion doesn't yet.
Passion supports sd card and has for a while, at least it works on my phone. Passion is made specifically for Vibrant, while ICSSGS is made for I9000 and ported to vibrant, CM9 is what passion is based off of. Currently Passion V13 is the best out there
I have Passion v13 and UMS does not work. I heard that the last compatible version was 10.6, which seems to be the case. Do you have it working on v13?
Edit: Wow, so I just plugged it in and after not working many times, it now works. Both internal and external SD show up too, eventhough ICS isn't supposed to support internal SD storage.
I used it maybe five minutes ago to transfer an apk, and its been working for me since 10.6, when was the last time you wiped?
and yes I have V13
I just flashed v12 a week ago and then v13 maybe 4 or 5 days ago. It seems to be working now, though. Have you tried any ROMs other than Passion?
I used ICSSGS up until V10.6 of passion came out, I recently flashed ICSSGS RC4.2 and it wasn't as smooth as Passion V13
Good to know I made the right decision by going with Passion first. Do you use CPU governor in Passion?
I have been using lulzactive, and the lulzactive app which allows you to customize the governor
Does your keyboard lag a bit when you exit messaging? Because that's really the only thing that's not-so-smooth about Passion.
Yes it does, but I hadn't noticed until you mentioned it. the keyboard also gets laggy after typing more that 100-ish words
v13
I had installed ics v13 last week but could not get GPS to work. The rom itself is awesome and VERY smooth. However, I needed my GPS, so I had to go back to bionix v 1.3.1.
I may try upgrading to ics once the GPS issues have been fixed for most people.
Cna !!
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Cna.
+1 followed by docs master
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You couldn't get it to work even with AngryGPS? You can also allow apps to find your phone based on wireless networks, but I guess it's a bit late for that.
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I had installed ics v13 last week but could not get GPS to work. The rom itself is awesome and VERY smooth. However, I needed my GPS, so I had to go back to bionix v 1.3.1.
I may try upgrading to ics once the GPS issues have been fixed for most people.
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I came from MIUI, and with ICS have had the same GPS problems. Have you had the mute/unmute bug with bionix? That was why I switched from MIUI. I may switch to bionix if everything works.
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I came from MIUI, and with ICS have had the same GPS problems. Have you had the mute/unmute bug with bionix? That was why I switched from MIUI. I may switch to bionix if everything works.
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I did notice that the call quality was not as great. Some cracking sounds, etc. The UI and everything else on the ROM was awesome. I just think that for me (I use my gps often) it would not work.
Bionix v1.3.1 is great, however it is based on 2.2, and I have had some issues with the notification pull down lagging extremely. I will need to ask in QA if anyone else is having that issue.
you really should make this a poll. i'd be interested in the results. well, my 2 cents: passion is, by far, the most stable and has almost everything working. AOKP and CNA are less stable, but have a lot more customization features.
AOKP is reasonably stable for me using Nelson's latest kernel instead of Glitch. the lockscreen, battery, and toggles are great. only thing i can do without is the pink unicorn.
edit: oh, and haven't tried any others (yet).
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you really should make this a poll. i'd be interested in the results. well, my 2 cents: passion is, by far, the most stable and has almost everything working. AOKP and CNA are less stable, but have a lot more customization features.
AOKP is reasonably stable for me using Nelson's latest kernel instead of Glitch. the lockscreen, battery, and toggles are great. only thing i can do without is the pink unicorn.
edit: oh, and haven't tried any others (yet).
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I have only tried Passion v12 and v13. the problem for me is that with so many issue still lingering in everyday items (GPS, voice sounds with the MUTE/UNMUTE 'fix'), I will rather stick to a Gingerbread or Froyo Rom.
I currently use FishManMod's Bionix v1.3.1 with the BlueMyst theme and I also installed the ICS fonts. Looks great, is fast, and everything works.
Until there is a smooth ICS rom with good battery life (reason why I hated CM7) and everything working, I won't go through the hassle of upgrading.
That's just my two cents.
I used to use Passion, but then I switched to OneCosmic RC3.1 and found it incredibly smooth. However, in order to get my GPS to work, I had to use the Passion kernel with OneCosmic's ROM. When I tried upgrading to OneCosmic RC4.x, it wiped my EFS...I learned the hard way that a backup was necessary. I ended up getting that fixed, and since then, I've switched to Passion v13. I find it to be great so far...everything seems to work well: GPS; purchasing apps from Market; etc.
Maybe if/when OneCosmic puts out RC5, I'll switch back over and check it out.
I got my gps working using this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370910
Now that passion v13 is working and seems to be stable, I'm going to stick with it for awhile. Until something more interesting comes along... AOKP sounds interesting - thanks db3.

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