Hello every one I bought dell streak 5 but I found my internal memory is 2 GB not 16 GB
I read in gsm arena the dell streak5 have 16 GiGA storage is that is right? plz anyone tell me
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16gb is the default external MicroSD memory card... The internal doesn't change from the 2gb
I read on gsm arena the internal is 16 gb and external micro sd up to 32 u can go to gsm arena and see what about dell streak 5
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Gsm arena is incorrect then. Radimus is right. 2gb internal, 16gb external.
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romano_ezzat said:
I read on GSM Arena the internal MicroSD is 16GB and the external MicroSD can go up to 32GB. You can go to GSM Arean and see what they have to say about the Dell Streak 5.
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I believe if you had searched a bit more diligently on Google you would have found these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Streak
http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/dell-streak-16gb-at/4507-3126_7-34117657.html
Both articles note the internal MicroSD as being approximately 2GB in size. The people at this forum will all point this out, and point out the even more obvious fact: GSM Arena is wrong. Now, it IS possible to change out the internal MicroSD for a larger one, but to do so you have to be willing to forego whatever warranty you have remaining on the Streak.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I believe if you had searched a bit more diligently on Google you would have found these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Streak
http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/dell-streak-16gb-at/4507-3126_7-34117657.html
Both articles note the internal MicroSD as being approximately 2GB in size. The people at this forum will all point this out, and point out the even more obvious fact: GSM Arena is wrong. Now, it IS possible to change out the internal MicroSD for a larger one, but to do so you have to be willing to forego whatever warranty you have remaining on the Streak.
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So what is the difference between the 16GB version and the 32GB version? Can the 16GB version not handle a 32GB external microSD card?
I also thought, when purchasing, that the 32GB referred to internal memory. After a few months of downloading apps telling me that the internal memory was only 1.6 GB, I chalked it up as the software being too new and not reading the phone's data correctly. I even called dell to inquire and the reps told me that the phone's system memory takes up a lot of the space but it should be 32 GB total. Anyone else who feels misled, please PM me. My wife is an attorney in CA and I am hoping to lead a class-action lawsuit against Dell, representing all Streak purchasers (16 & 32 GB versions) for false advertising and breach of contract (warranty of merchantability and for use for a particular purpose). I can't check now because the streak has been discontinued but I'm pretty sure the dell websites did not say the phone had only 1.6 or 2 GB of internal memory. I'm pretty attentive to detail and it should not be a consumer's job to go somewhere other than the point of purchase to inquire about the product when the point of purchase is the DAMN MANUFACTURER.
I sued dell in the past when I bought a 64 bit computer that came with Windows Vista 32 bit. I clicked through all of the related Dell product web pages and there was no mention of any 32 bit component; the sites only described the computer as coming with Genuine Microsoft Windows Vista. I spoke with Microsoft about an upgrade... who said contact the OEM; after repeated calls to dell, got nothing. One phone representative in India the phone even went so far as to say that my computer would be faster running the 32 bit OS.
After seeing the suit, Dell sent me a $200 check as a settlement (that was what I had requested... the cost of Windows Vista 64 bit at the time).
To Reiterate: What is the difference between the 16GB and 32GB streak 5s? and contact me via PM if you are pissed about not knowing and feel they cheated you out of extra money (in my case it was an extra $100 for the 32GB version).
Absolutely nothing, only the size of the external memory card they bundled with it.
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So what is the difference between the 16GB version and the 32GB version?
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Tongue-in-cheek answer: $99.
The serious answer: As Manii said, there is no difference except for the size of MicroSD card installed in the user-replaceable memory slot. The 2GB referred to earlier in the thread is for the internal MicroSD card, which cannot be changed out by the user unless the warranty is expired or any warranty remaining is voided out.
As for your class action lawsuit, good luck with that. The Streak spec sheet is quite specific regarding the features:
Memory: 512MB ROM + 512MB SDRAM + 2GB non-user accessible MicroSD™ for system & applications files
Storage: 1 user accessible MicroSD™ card slot with support for up to 32GB cards
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Source: http://shop.it.ee/Specid/Latitude/Streak.pdf
Now, I purchased my Streak in April of 2011, while it was still available for purchase on Dell's website. At that time, the spec sheet linked above was available on their site. So one of two possibilities exist here:
1. You didn't pay enough attention to the details.
2. You purchased your Streak after Dell discontinued it and removed the marketing materials from its site.
Regardless of whether it was either of these or a combination of the two, since Dell's marketing materials are quite specific as to what the Streak has in it, and even their blog entry on the Streak mentions the user-accessible MicroSD slot, I don't believe you have much of a case here.
If you were gonna sue them for stop supporting the streak or done a piss poor job while they did, or even for not releasing the source code.... I am all in for it.
Internal memory is not one of them as they were pretty clear about it upfront.
it's pretty hard for you to cash it in this time.
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So what is the difference between the 16GB version and the 32GB version? Can the 16GB version not handle a 32GB external microSD card?
I also thought, when purchasing, that the 32GB referred to internal memory. After a few months of downloading apps telling me that the internal memory was only 1.6 GB, I chalked it up as the software being too new and not reading the phone's data correctly. I even called dell to inquire and the reps told me that the phone's system memory takes up a lot of the space but it should be 32 GB total. Anyone else who feels misled, please PM me. My wife is an attorney in CA and I am hoping to lead a class-action lawsuit against Dell, representing all Streak purchasers (16 & 32 GB versions) for false advertising and breach of contract (warranty of merchantability and for use for a particular purpose). I can't check now because the streak has been discontinued but I'm pretty sure the dell websites did not say the phone had only 1.6 or 2 GB of internal memory. I'm pretty attentive to detail and it should not be a consumer's job to go somewhere other than the point of purchase to inquire about the product when the point of purchase is the DAMN MANUFACTURER.
I sued dell in the past when I bought a 64 bit computer that came with Windows Vista 32 bit. I clicked through all of the related Dell product web pages and there was no mention of any 32 bit component; the sites only described the computer as coming with Genuine Microsoft Windows Vista. I spoke with Microsoft about an upgrade... who said contact the OEM; after repeated calls to dell, got nothing. One phone representative in India the phone even went so far as to say that my computer would be faster running the 32 bit OS.
After seeing the suit, Dell sent me a $200 check as a settlement (that was what I had requested... the cost of Windows Vista 64 bit at the time).
To Reiterate: What is the difference between the 16GB and 32GB streak 5s? and contact me via PM if you are pissed about not knowing and feel they cheated you out of extra money (in my case it was an extra $100 for the 32GB version).
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Tongue-in-cheek answer: $99.
The serious answer: As Manii said, there is no difference except for the size of MicroSD card installed in the user-replaceable memory slot. The 2GB referred to earlier in the thread is for the internal MicroSD card, which cannot be changed out by the user unless the warranty is expired or any warranty remaining is voided out.
As for your class action lawsuit, good luck with that. The Streak spec sheet is quite specific regarding the features:
Source: http://shop.it.ee/Specid/Latitude/Streak.pdf
Now, I purchased my Streak in April of 2011, while it was still available for purchase on Dell's website. At that time, the spec sheet linked above was available on their site. So one of two possibilities exist here:
1. You didn't pay enough attention to the details.
2. You purchased your Streak after Dell discontinued it and removed the marketing materials from its site.
Regardless of whether it was either of these or a combination of the two, since Dell's marketing materials are quite specific as to what the Streak has in it, and even their blog entry on the Streak mentions the user-accessible MicroSD slot, I don't believe you have much of a case here.
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Well... that's a whole 'nother story. Since the pages I saw before purchase did not provide a link to that spec sheet, nor did the phone representative with whom I spoke clarify the issue.... so I actually bought a separate 32 GB SD card to ensure that I had one because I thought the 32 GB was internal memory.... so when my purchase arrived... I had 1 SD card... not the two y'all claim I perhaps should have gotten.
This calls for an email to customer support.
Regarding what the fellow said:
If you were gonna sue them for stop supporting the streak or done a piss poor job while they did, or even for not releasing the source code.... I am all in for it.
Internal memory is not one of them as they were pretty clear about it upfront...it's pretty hard for you to cash it in this time.
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None of those issues are false advertising or a breach of contract, from what I can tell. Selling a phone for an extra $100 with no difference from another phone that is cheaper while marking it as using double the memory... that is a breach of the standard warranties for use for a particular purpose or warranties of merchantability. Dell's purchase system is not like a windows installer... there is no fine print to click through... there was no information provided to most customers regarding the specific differences and their support staff also misinformed customers. There is something called a statute of limitations which means it is, in fact, not too late to cash in.
I reiterate... if anyone feels defrauded by Dell regarding the internal memory or claims regarding 16 GB or 32 GB capacities... please PM as I do plan to pursue this and hope to help as many people as possible.
Stop.
Just stop.
Breathe a moment, then listen.
The Streak has two MicroSD cards. One of them you cannot access unless you want to void your warranty. That is the non-user accessible card. The second card in a base model Streak is a 16GB MicroSD. That is the model I have. When you purchased the Streak through Dell, one of the optional accessories in the "customization phase" of the online sales process was a 32GB MicroSD card. That 32GB MicroSD at the time the Streaks were available was $99. Since the MicroSD was marketed as an accessory, your argument doesn't hold water. You have no case.
Further, Dell's literature says "up to 32GB" on the removeable MicroSD card. If Dell had given you no MicroSD card at all in the box you still would have no case even though the Streak isn't all that useful without the MicroSD card. The list of accessories included in the Streak box (user manual, English PDF, page 7) does not list a MicroSD card. The manual (PDF, page 13) mentions a 4th step in setting up the Streak: Install the MicroSD card. It and the Quick Start guide are in agreement in that they both provide instructions to insert a MicroSD card, but neither say "insert the included MicroSD card". Since neither source mentions an included MicroSD card, you're out of luck.
One last thing: this talk of launching class action lawsuits is pointless. Class action lawsuits benefit only one group of people: the lawyers. Even if you got enough people to create a class action and the judge let it go forward do you really think you're going to get what you're seeking? Dell will admit no wrongdoing and will set aside money to cover paying you and paying the lawyers. Out of those two groups of people, who is going to benefit the most?
The lawyers.
I agree with what you said, Mr alcoholic. The only issue is: what did the users who paid extra for the 32 GB version get for their money?
It sounds like some users got an SD card. I paid extra for the Sd Card on top of the extra i paid for the 32GB of nothing.
If i get $100 back, which was the extra i paid for the 32Gb version, i will be happy.
The reason i suggest class action is because, even if they sold only 1000 32gb streaks, they made $100,000 as a result of deceptive marketing (which, according to my original post, they have done before). Since that number is likely much higher, they really should learn a lesson.
Should i piss in a cup and Mark it "32Gb piss" because purchasers have an option of buying an extra sd card with the piss? And then, when they call to ask about it, explain that the piss proteins use up a lot of the internal memory?
That is essentially what Dell did.
If you are going to address me by name, at least cut and paste it into your post. Deliberately misspelling it and your general attitude in response to my post implies a weak argument.
Now, have you ever run through Dell's "configure to order" process? On a laptop, one of the available options is how much memory is available in the unit. You have two choices: 4 or 8gb. The selections are toggles. Selecting one deselects the other. The 4gb choice is the default, but if you want the 8gb option, the cost of the option is added to the cost of.the laptop. Let's say you went with the 8gb option and finished the transaction. When you get home you open the computer and see that you received exactly what you asked for: 8gb of memory. You do not get the 4gb of memory that comes standard and the 8gb of memory on top of it.
It is the same with the Streak memory card option. 16gb is the default, but for an additional $99 you can increase the available memory to 32gb. When you open the Streak box, you will find ONE card: a 32gb card in the box.
No one gets a 16gb card AND a 32gb card in an unopened Streak package. It will be one or the other. With that piece of information as well as the other information provided in this thread, a Dell lawyer should be able to make a convincing argument against granting class action status to your complaint.
One last thing: Dell's shipping manifest for each item they sell includes a breakdown, by Dell part number, of all the components that make up the product. If you purchased a new Streak from Dell it will tell you what size MicroSD you selected. If it shows a 32gb MicroSD and you only got 16gb, contact executive customer service via Michael Dell's email address because they are more helpful than the regular line. Otherwise suck it up and deal, because you got exactly what you ordered.
I have a really hard time expecting anything but a waste of time coming out of this, point: dell is a laptop manufacturer.
Rationale:
Laptops ALWAYs have the option of a fac installed HDD that is 2-10x more expensive then picking the smallest and buying a larger one yourself. (Ignoring sales/coupons/etc).
This is functionally the same thing, phones as a whole are always massively overpriced when it comes to bundled NANDs (in bundled memory cards or soldered directly on the board). If you're really good with your hands you could just as much buy something like an iphone (which has no external memory and multiple size nands) and remove and replace the nand for cheaper then the price of the bigger cap version.
It's always been a scam and wont change as storage cap is a really easy market number and general users equate that with it's price. Short of breaking this entire setup you wont get much traction as the entire industry works like this.
Pretty much the only way to avoid this for laptops is to buy a barebones one and furnish it yourself.
Phone equiv is to buy a phone that has an external sd and buy your own sd, like prev mentioned.
The 32gb one is worth more then $100 too btw, as it's $100 OVER the 16gb one, which means you're assuming it's free. I'm going to make up a number and say the 16gb one is worth $50 so a hypothetical cardless S5 should cost $150 less then one with a 32gb card bundled. These dont exist though, dell doesnt have a SKU that includes no card included (not intentionally)
As an aside: dell shouldnt have removed the product page for the S5/S7 when they stopped being sold for this very reason. Dell DOES have spec sheets still up for devices far older, this is like an exception. They should have merely removed the buy button and say it's no longer available (which is true for the s5 product page for some countries outside the US)
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
If Dell had given you no MicroSD card at all in the box you still would have no case even though the Streak isn't all that useful without the MicroSD card. The list of accessories included in the Streak box (user manual, English PDF, page 7) does not list a MicroSD card.
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If he got no sdcard he has right to complain, as it bundles ONE card.
Doesnt mean he has any right to overreact though, $100 can nearly buy you THREE 32gb cards on your own. SanDisk 32GB Micro SDHC Flash Card Model SDSDQM-032G-B35N. That is in fact nearly identical to the bundled ones, dell uses sandisk class 4 cards in all their devices (S5/S7/V) (it could possibly be class 6, you can still buy TWO 32gb class 6's though regardless).
What he's implying towards is that you should have the right to sue a company when they sell something for more then another company, which is shinanigans, both the former and latter points.
Regardless of what he's implying he IS implying that he didnt do the research in thing or another, as who in their right mind would actually pick the 32gb one? It doesnt take more then 5 minutes of research to see that the 32gb one is a terrible deal short of using dell credit that is about to expire.
tl;dr: shinanigans
Well, my point is that Dell could have legally gotten away with not including a MicroSD since one wasn't mentioned in the materials available, and that there wasn't much he could do about it. It's not realistic and I knew that since the Streak does come with a card. But, you are absolutely correct in that he's overreacting. I was trying to be nice about it in saying he doesn't have a case, especially given that he claims his wife is a lawyer. She would in fact benefit greatly from a class action lawsuit.
I appreciate the debate guys, but the point was:
Dell called their two versions of the streak 5 "16 gb" and "32 gb", both of which were misleading. The "versions" were identical but were shipped with external sd cards which, as the poster above confirmed, was not mentioned by Dell in it's online sales materials.
A few people have made the argument that I should have done more research; to those people I say "shame on you". It should not be up to the consumer to read 3rd party materials because a company uses misleading advertising. One person said he saw a specs sheet on Dell's website; I did not see that sheet and cannot confirm a link to it was present on the day I made my purchase nor have I seen it afterwards on Dell's site except from your link.
To those who say Dell couldn't have gotten away with using illegal marketing practices I say "welcome to the real world". There is a reason you can still stay up late and see infomercials selling weight loss or penis extending pills (snake oil pills). The government agencies responsible for keeping companies in compliance with the law are overburdened; they are mainly the attorneys general ( the fda in the case of the pill salespeople) who only pursue cases after getting numerous complaints from consumers in their jurisdiction.
To summarize: I know I would have a case because I sued Dell about 5 years ago for selling a 64 bit computer with "Windows Vista" but omitting (from every page of the online sales material) that it was Windows Vista 32 BIT. It is misleading to sell a piece of hardware and say that it is 64 bit or 32 gb if, upon arrival, it can only utilize 32 BIT processing or 2gb of internal storage. Dell settled that case and sent me ~$200 in the form of a check...the cost of a 64 bit OS.
A reminder to those that say "if it were illegal, they couldn't get away with it"...in civil law, it is only illegal if somebody sues and wins; if you don't sue, they get away with it. By the way, I love getting checks in the mail when some strong-willed individuals pursued a class action and I am, unbeknownst to me, a member of the class. It allows me to put a check in the bank and know that companies I deal with are being regulated by consumers. I disagree that class actions only benefit the lawyers; I think they benefit everyone who gets a check and every future consumer because the company may think twice before performing the same or other actionable behaviors again.
Moreover, commenters forget that it was the original poster, me, and the content preparers at gsm arena who were misled by Dell's sales materials. If it were really so clear that the 16gb or 32 gb versions referred to external memory, then this thread would never have been created and we would not have had this discussion. Rather, 2 out of the 8 contributors to the thread were of the belief that the streak would come with 16 or 32gb of internal memory; at 25% in a fairly tech-savvy forum, I wonder at those who think Dell made the specs clear to general consumers.
This wasn't truly a debate since it was a contest of facts versus belief and emotion. Regardless, if you truly appreciated the "debate", you wouldn't have waited a year to mention it. Your tone in this post is quite bitter, even going so far as to reiterate your position from a year ago; one that is factually weak but emotionally charged. Based upon the tone in your post, the restatement of your position and beliefs as well as the lengthy delay in replying, things did not proceed as you anticipated and/or hoped for.
I'd encourage you not to post again on this thread, but the impression I have of you is of someone who feels they have to have the last word. Thus, you'll post again.
Related
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...D-4GB-Card/Product.html?P36=5XT937&P36=5XVK5N
anyone seen better, not ebay tho!
I don't want to be but am a bit suspicious of it...
Play.com are generally consdered okay, but I don't think there is such a thing as a MicroSD card that isn't SDHC - I know the specs on this product say that it is SDHC but where did they get that picture of a 4Gb MicroSD card that doesn't say SDHC on the case...?
As far as I can tell they've put up a pic which is not only of a different product but of a product that has never even been produced because it's physically impossible to make, i.e. a 'standard' 4Gb MicroSD.
I hate mock-up pictures when looking at buying something. Doesn't engender confidence when someone 'fakes' a pic of it rather than putting up a jpeg saying they haven't actually photographed the product yet.
didn't notice that, havent bought one myself, tho have 2 x 2gb cards that both come from play awhile back
Hi
Got a 4GB micro sd from Mobymemory for £30
and delivered next day for a couple of quid extra
Must say always good service as Ive used them lots
Card works flawlessley straight out of box on Scaps 3.54 Rom
regards JPW
Will this work with our Photons?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lexar-32GB-...1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1318161717&sr=1-1
The price isn't half bad plus it has free shipping. Also, class 10.
Interested if anyone's using one in their photons or anything similar (32gb class 10).
I have a class 6 16GB in mine. WOrks decently. From what I recall the higher the class the quicker it will work, etc etc. And I think for the most part an SD card is an SD card, so if the price is right, and you NEED that much room, get it.
yup. as long as card is genuine it should work.
Thanks guys. That's what I needed to hear!
and yes I do need that much space ^^
@devil:
lexar has good quality products.
when you buy plz share your experience.
Haha. Cool Man. Let us know how it goes.
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Be very carefully when buying these types of items from amazon.
I wanted a 32gb SD card also. Did a lot of web searching for the best price. Found a sandisk 32gb on amazon for about 30 bucks. I jumped all over it. When they arrrived 2 weeks later from China, it was pretty obvious that they were knock offs. The printed label on the card was missing the class information, and the SD adaptor that came with it had a label that was poorly placed. When I inserted the card, it showed the correct amount of memory, 27gb or thereabouts. But problems appeared when actually using the card. Music synced from comp would appear while still connected to comp, but would dissappear completely when disconnected, or appear, but have a 0 byte file size. When i took pictures, they would appear as green blocks when viewed with gallery.
Just make sure your buying from a reputable dealer.
Also, not sure of your location, but current exchange says that item is $65 US. I bought a 32gb, class 10 from best buy for the same price. So its not that good of a price. Though I can't seem to find one right now, they come and go.
the seller in the devilshadow'S link is amazon itself.
Further, Sandisk,Kingston and memorette has too many fakes.
Have not heard fake card of Lexar or PNY.
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Be very carefully when buying these types of items from amazon.
I wanted a 32gb SD card also. Did a lot of web searching for the best price. Found a sandisk 32gb on amazon for about 30 bucks. I jumped all over it. When they arrrived 2 weeks later from China, it was pretty obvious that they were knock offs. The printed label on the card was missing the class information, and the SD adaptor that came with it had a label that was poorly placed. When I inserted the card, it showed the correct amount of memory, 27gb or thereabouts. But problems appeared when actually using the card. Music synced from comp would appear while still connected to comp, but would dissappear completely when disconnected, or appear, but have a 0 byte file size. When i took pictures, they would appear as green blocks when viewed with gallery.
Just make sure your buying from a reputable dealer.
Also, not sure of your location, but current exchange says that item is $65 US. I bought a 32gb, class 10 from best buy for the same price. So its not that good of a price. Though I can't seem to find one right now, they come and go.
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I'm in europe so the price is about 50ish Euros for me for the card I linked. Also, i am fully aware of the massive knockoff market when it comes to SD cards. It's part of the reason I chose amazon over Ebay. I've also made sure to check if the SD card i bought has the "Dispatched from and sold by Amazon.co.uk" status. The user reviews also guarantee it's genuine.
I bought mine straight from Lexar when they were first released. Ran it in the Evo and now in my Photon.
My first one started exhibiting corruption and eventually died (a few months before I got the Photon). Lexar replaced it with minimal hassle and it's been good to go since.
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Will this work with our Photons?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lexar-32GB-...1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1318161717&sr=1-1
The price isn't half bad plus it has free shipping. Also, class 10.
Interested if anyone's using one in their photons or anything similar (32gb class 10).
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I have this particular one in my photon. works fine.
-m
Lost my 16gb Card!!!
I have a missing 16gb that I was using, I lost it when I removed it to unlock my bootloader as a precaution.
Looking to get a 32gb card!!!
OK, I will say this one more time. #1, Not all cards are alike. I have a class 2 32Gb SanDisk that has treated me well, on Fuze, Evo, and Photon. I got a class 6 32Gb knock-off for the speed BUT, after we ran the test, my SanDisk blew it away by over 50% speed wise.
Next, I noticed by playing with others phones (Hey, I like to play with phones?), depending on what your doing, is different. For example, playing music or playing a game. Games, I found, need higher I/O than music.
I just bought a 32gb lexar class 10 for $60 at best buy. Im in canada right now. Future shop had a sale, they were sold out. I printed it out and best buy gave me the same deal. My advice is becareful online, there are lots fake cards. Look for sales from a reputable retailer.
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Will our Photon support one of the new 64GB cards like this one?
http://amzn.com/B005VFG0B2
According to our phone's specifications, that is a firm "No".
Do NOT waste your money buying one, unless you have another device that can support it. It will not work on the Motorola Photon 4G, or the Motorola Electrify.
As far as I know the new Samsung Galaxy Note is the only phone out that supports that card.
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deedscreen said:
According to our phone's specifications, that is a firm "No".
Do NOT waste your money buying one, unless you have another device that can support it. It will not work on the Motorola Photon 4G, or the Motorola Electrify.
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Ok, thanks!
Next year more phones will support it.
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As far as I know the new Samsung Galaxy Note is the only phone out that supports that card.
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How much more does the sdxc part cost vs the sdhc? I think we'll be good on the sdxc spec for a while, the size limit is 2TB.
I don't understand the reason why Samsung, like others, launches the higher capacity devices later than the smaller one.
Is this a marketing thing or a production thing?
If it's a marketing thing I don't understand what they gain of it, and if it is a production issue, I can't understand why it so difficult to make different devices at the same time. The difference in the device itself is small and the packaging can't be that hard to differenciate?
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I don't understand the reason why Samsung, like others, launches the higher capacity devices later than the smaller one.
Is this a marketing thing or a production thing?
If it's a marketing thing I don't understand what they gain of it, and if it is a production issue, I can't understand why it so difficult to make different devices at the same time. The difference in the device itself is small and the packaging can't be that hard to differenciate?
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It has to do with the operators.
All the operators offer contracts with a low monthly cost accompanied by high end devices.
When the hype is still high the operators want to commit you for like 2 years with a contract that has a low monthly fee and in order to keep that fee low the device has to be the cheapest possible.
It's rather hard to find cheap contracts with high end devices on their highest capacities. They started doing that with the iPhone and they continue with every brand.
Until the hype is calmed the factories are focusing on production of the cheapest devices because its obvious they are gonna have higher demand(most people dont even know what GigaByte means) since the operators manage to give away good deals with internet and even free calls including the phone.
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It has to do with the operators.
All the operators offer contracts with a low monthly cost accompanied by high end devices.
When the hype is still high the operators want to commit you for like 2 years with a contract that has a low monthly fee and in order to keep that fee low the device has to be the cheapest possible.
It's rather hard to find cheap contracts with high end devices on their highest capacities. They started doing that with the iPhone and they continue with every brand.
Until the hype is calmed the factories are focusing on production of the cheapest devices because its obvious they are gonna have higher demand(most people dont even know what GigaByte means) since the operators manage to give away good deals with internet and even free calls including the phone.
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Thanks, sounds reasonable.
But still, the operators could still offer 16GB with a contract, and operators and others 32/64GB SIM free devices?
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Thanks, sounds reasonable.
But still, the operators could still offer 16GB with a contract, and operators and others 32/64GB SIM free devices?
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I don't think that operator locked devices will have capacities higher than 16GB.
The first wave of phones will mainly be operator locked(hence the contract).
Then the SIM-Free version of 32 and 64 GB will eventually come but right know my guess is that Samsung wants to cover the demand from the operators worldwide first and then move to the unlocked phones.
Either way an android device is unlockable much easier than an iPhone so...
Because probably as always with samsung devices they will never launch 32 and 64gb devices even if they say yes on press releases.
My take is they no people will opt for 32 or 64 so by releasing the 16 first itl help them sell a lot more 16s as people just cant wait and buy just to have
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Vodaphone have exclusive use of 32gb for the first month. I've chosen the 32gb version
I typed this out all by myself on my Samsung Galaxy S2 using XDA
Might be true.
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Because probably as always with samsung devices they will never launch 32 and 64gb devices even if they say yes on press releases.
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Hi!
Sadly there seem to be some truth to this statement. Look at the Galaxy Note. It was originally promised available in 16 & 32 gig versions as well. Handtec actually has it "due in soon"
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5587/samsung-galaxy-note--32gb--sim-free-unlocked--blue-
32 Gig SGN has been "due in soon" for a long time. Evidently the term "soon" covers everything between "now" to "never" including both.
What i don´t understand is the reason for making a firm promise when you might end up reconsidering. Wouldn´t it be better to present the product "as is" and state something like "higher capacity devices might follow later".
If i preordered the 32 gig version, waited 3-6 months, and then finally was told that the device wouldn´t be available after all due to "manufacturer reconsidering". I might tend to have eehh-- a somewhat less than positive opinion of said manufacturers truthfullness
Regards ELO
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32 Gig SGN has been "due in soon" for a long time. Evidently the term "soon" covers everything between "now" to "never" including both.
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I was under the impression that the 32GB international version of SGN had been officially cancelled? I remember reading that on several sites a few months back... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22528962&postcount=92
I won't settle for less than 32gb, 16 is to little
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I was under the impression that the 32GB international version of SGN had been officially cancelled? I remember reading that on several sites a few months back... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22528962&postcount=92
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I hadn´t seen that but it might very well be true. This illuminates the "meat of the matter" Samsung proudly annunces a 32 GB version at the original product presentation and then cancels somewhere "down the road".
Sadly this behavior is self-amplifying. Look at the SGSIII. why would you want to wait for a 32/64 GB version when you can be fairly sure it´ll never hit the shelves anyway, regardless of nice and pretty promises at the presentation. Subsequently if sales statistics show that the market is saturated with the 16 GB version because the potential customers knew the 32/64 GB versions were "made of hot air", then there is no feasible basis for production and Samsung "regrettably cancelles - so sorry".
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I hadn´t seen that but it might very well be true. This illuminates the "meat of the matter" Samsung proudly annunces a 32 GB version at the original product presentation and then cancels somewhere "down the road".
Sadly this behavior is self-amplifying. Look at the SGSIII. why would you want to wait for a 32/64 GB version when you can be fairly sure it´ll never hit the shelves anyway, regardless of nice and pretty promises at the presentation. Subsequently if sales statistics show that the market is saturated with the 16 GB version because the potential customers knew the 32/64 GB versions were "made of hot air", then there is no feasible basis for production and Samsung "regrettably cancelles - so sorry".
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ELO
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I know, it really sucks and is annoying. I ordered the 16GB version because I just can't wait. I guess the 32GB will be a Vodafone exclusive and then after that there will be 32GB unbrandeds on the way, but nobody knows when...
I've bought a 64GB SDXC so 16GB should be enough. I don't listen to music using my phone anyway, I have a separate player for that.
I'm guessing that the 64GB version of the SGS3 might pop up sooner or later (my money is on later) and my personal guess is that when/if it is released, it will come in black. I'm not holding my breath though, and I'm definitely not waiting for it. I don't think very many will wait for it, and I think Samsung knows that, and to me it feels like the risk of them cancelling it is pretty big.
So I got a Samsung 32GB class 10 MicroSD card off eBay for my soon to ship AT&T Samsung Galaxy S3 and I ran some tests on it and got some weird results and I'm wondering if I got an el-fako. It was a bulk packaged one (ie just in an adapter case holder).
I ran h2testw and got results lower than I was expecting (like 15 read/6 write) but that didn't bother me too much. But then I tried to run CrystalDiskMark; I didn't realize that selecting 5 made it run the tests 5 times and it was taking forever, so I left it running when I went to bed. When I woke up it was frozen on Random Write 4KB (QD=32) [1/5] hitting stop did nothing and I couldn't close the program or even end the process in task manager. When I went into the disk in my windows explorer it froze windows explorer and then I couldn't do anything really involving the SD card. I even had to cold power down the system since attempting to shut down within the OS did nothing.
Now today running CrystalDiskMark it ran the first 7 tests fairly quickly on 1 iteration and then it's again stuck on the last test Random Write 4KB (QD=32) [1/1]. Or at least it's been doing that test for like a half hour with no change and as mentioned overnight it didn't get past it so I doubt waiting will do anything for me. A screenshot of the results so far are attached.
Now having said that, I am using the built-in 7in1 card reader in a 4 year old dell Vostro 1700 so it wouldn't surprise me if the reader couldn't handle the top speeds of the card or even if it freezing up was the fault of the reader but I am concerned. Anyone have any thoughts?
Ebay fake Samsung SD cards
I had the same issue. 15 R/ 6 W, when class 10 clearly should be constant speeds of 24 Read and 13 Write. Brought from ebay seller moe_122 for £19.99 32GB Class 10 Samsung Micro SD.
I tried this both on my laptop card reader and my PC, using both the SD card adapter and a standalone USB Micro SD card reader.
I then checked out images of some available from Amazon and they are clearly different. Genuine mSD shown on Amazon had writing on back, whereas the one I'd received was blank.
I have today, emailed them requesting a replacement, they instead offered a full refund. the only thing is now I have the S3 but no micro SD card, and I have to post it back to them. They tried to say that I was liable for return postage but I was not having it. In the end I just escalated to ebay resolution center and they begrudging agreed to refunding me the postage.
I just brought one from amazon for £19.99 with free super saver delivery.
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This is why you never buy Sd-Cards from ebay!!
Try Amazon, I'd recommend Sandisk also
AW079 said:
I had the same issue. 15 R/ 6 W, when class 10 clearly should be constant speeds of 24 Read and 13 Write. Brought from ebay seller moe_122 for £19.99 32GB Class 10 Samsung Micro SD.
I tried this both on my laptop card reader and my PC, using both the SD card adapter and a standalone USB Micro SD card reader.
I then checked out images of some available from Amazon and they are clearly different. Genuine mSD shown on Amazon had writing on back, whereas the one I'd received was blank.
I have today, emailed them requesting a replacement, they instead offered a full refund. the only thing is now I have the S3 but no micro SD card, and I have to post it back to them. They tried to say that I was liable for return postage but I was not having it. In the end I just escalated to ebay resolution center and they begrudging agreed to refunding me the postage.
I just brought one from amazon for £19.99 with free super saver delivery.
Thank me if you found this useful.
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Yeah mine has writing on the back and it matches every picture I've seen so far. I know that doesn't really indicate anything re: fake/bad but it's at least not an obvious fake.
This will be my first time ever having an issue with an eBay purchase if it is one and the buyer has 99.99% positive on like 80k deals so I'm sure worst case I get a replacement or a refund. I'm not too worried about it; it's just annoying if in fact it is a bad card/fake. I would have bought from Amazon but at the time I ordered they didn't have any good deals and the eBay price was like $10-$15 cheaper. Of course since then there have been a couple deals at the same or better pricing. If it turns out this one is going back I'll probably try and be patient and pick up a 64gb sandisk if they drop to ~$50-$60 again soon.
Hm...
Argh... as a noob i cannot yet post link to the photo of mSD card on amazon.
I too have had positive experiences with ebay so far, but when it comes to things like this, I guess it is better to go with a reputable seller like Amazon.
Go into your phone shop dealer and see what cards they sell there.
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So I got a Samsung 32GB class 10 MicroSD card off eBay for my soon to ship AT&T Samsung Galaxy S3 and I ran some tests on it and got some weird results and I'm wondering if I got an el-fako. It was a bulk packaged one (ie just in an adapter case holder).
I ran h2testw and got results lower than I was expecting (like 15 read/6 write) but that didn't bother me too much. But then I tried to run CrystalDiskMark; I didn't realize that selecting 5 made it run the tests 5 times and it was taking forever, so I left it running when I went to bed. When I woke up it was frozen on Random Write 4KB (QD=32) [1/5] hitting stop did nothing and I couldn't close the program or even end the process in task manager. When I went into the disk in my windows explorer it froze windows explorer and then I couldn't do anything really involving the SD card. I even had to cold power down the system since attempting to shut down within the OS did nothing.
Now today running CrystalDiskMark it ran the first 7 tests fairly quickly on 1 iteration and then it's again stuck on the last test Random Write 4KB (QD=32) [1/1]. Or at least it's been doing that test for like a half hour with no change and as mentioned overnight it didn't get past it so I doubt waiting will do anything for me. A screenshot of the results so far are attached.
Now having said that, I am using the built-in 7in1 card reader in a 4 year old dell Vostro 1700 so it wouldn't surprise me if the reader couldn't handle the top speeds of the card or even if it freezing up was the fault of the reader but I am concerned. Anyone have any thoughts?
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Hey Erikk, I am having the same exact problem as you, I am using the card reader in my new laptop and my card is benching much higher as it should be but when I am getting to the same test it gets frozen on Random Write 4KB (QD=32) [1/5] and nothing happens I can't end process, I have to cold power down like you as well. I know for a fact the microSD card I got is not a fake because I compared with other real samsung 32gb mircosd cards. I got mine at a MicroCenter. I don't know what to do at this point because the card is fantastic as far as speed is concerned it just gets stuck at that part...
Appreciate help from anyone that knows a possible solution, returning it may be the only option but I have a hard time believing the card it self is defective.
There are so many fake cards on eBay it's not even funny. I got burned once and will never buy there again. I'd rather pay a little more at my local store, at least then I have the peace of mind of being covered by consumer protection laws.
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UPDATE: Booting into safe mode did the trick, I no longer get frozen on Random Write 4KB (QD=32) [1/5] ALSO my speeds seem to have improved some more as well. lol :victory: No defect with the card after all, just something was not working well with crystaldiskmark in the normal OS environment.
I just don't get why people spend £500 on the best phone available then go to Ebay to find the cheapest card they can possibly find.
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Yeah mine has writing on the back and it matches every picture I've seen so far. I know that doesn't really indicate anything re: fake/bad but it's at least not an obvious fake.
This will be my first time ever having an issue with an eBay purchase if it is one and the buyer has 99.99% positive on like 80k deals so I'm sure worst case I get a replacement or a refund. I'm not too worried about it; it's just annoying if in fact it is a bad card/fake. I would have bought from Amazon but at the time I ordered they didn't have any good deals and the eBay price was like $10-$15 cheaper. Of course since then there have been a couple deals at the same or better pricing. If it turns out this one is going back I'll probably try and be patient and pick up a 64gb sandisk if they drop to ~$50-$60 again soon.
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If you want them cheap get them from ebay, but dont blame anyone if you get a fake one, you get what you pay for. It has been said many times, many ebay sellers sell fake micro sd.
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Always get a good quality card reader, dont compare the cheap and nasty one's with a branded one, you won't get the same results.
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I just don't get why people spend £500 on the best phone available then go to Ebay to find the cheapest card they can possibly find.
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Cos they just spent all their money on a $700 phone....
I went to eBay because it was cheap enough that I really didn't care if I got burned on a fake card (plus with all the paypal/ebay protections the burn would only be the annoyance of disputing the charge). I am now fairly certain it's not a bad or fake card; in the S3 antutu reads it with the correct speeds. I think it was just the 5 year old multi-card reader built into my laptop that was having issues.
So either way, I'm happy now with my card.
I'm normally very careful, but I made the mistake of buying some "Sandisk" SD cards from Ebay.
They looked absolutely perfect, the welded plastic packaging was flawless, yet sadly they turned out to be fake.
A typical scam is to reprogram and rebrand cheaper, smaller capacity, slower or otherwise low quality cards as pass them off as high quality brands.
Often everything seems OK until the card is part-used, when files start to corrupt. Of course, often by the time this becomes apparent, the seller has scarpered.
If the price looks too good to be true, it often really is too good to be true.
Well the seller I bought from has been an ebay member since 99, has 80k+ ratings and 99.9% positive feedback, so hopefully I won't have that happen. But yes SD cards are definitely one of the riskier items to buy off ebay.
Best tool to test SD for fakes is called H2testw. I have bought one fake on eBay, and seller also had 99% positive feedback. I guess people buy 32GB card and never get past the 1GB or 2GB by the time they leave the positive feedback. If you pass the real space everything will be corrupted. So you really never know until you try to get data out of the SD to use it. Try that tool and it will full the SD card and then read it back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730285
PS. I don't ever buy SD card from eBay anymore.
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Best tool to test SD for fakes is called H2testw.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730285
PS. I don't ever buy SD card from eBay anymore.
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That sounds a really helpful tool, thanks!
I'm sure you are exactly right about the typical Ebay scam.
I watched one seller who had vast amounts of sales and great feedback.
They suddenly flooded the listings with vast numbers of "Kingston" brand cards at silly low prices.
Nothing happened for a while, then suddenly the bad feedback started to roll in on that supplier about corrupt data. Of course, all the cards had been sold. Seller vanished without trace.
fireboypr said:
Best tool to test SD for fakes is called H2testw. I have bought one fake on eBay, and seller also had 99% positive feedback. I guess people buy 32GB card and never get past the 1GB or 2GB by the time they leave the positive feedback. If you pass the real space everything will be corrupted. So you really never know until you try to get data out of the SD to use it. Try that tool and it will full the SD card and then read it back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730285
PS. I don't ever buy SD card from eBay anymore.
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Yeah my card passed H2testw. It just came back with speeds I thought were too low for what the card should have been capable of. With the tests I've run with the phone itself I think those slow tests were just indicative of the crap reader my ancient laptop has. So I guess I got lucky in the eBay crapshoot.
fireboypr said:
Best tool to test SD for fakes is called H2testw. I have bought one fake on eBay, and seller also had 99% positive feedback. I guess people buy 32GB card and never get past the 1GB or 2GB by the time they leave the positive feedback. If you pass the real space everything will be corrupted. So you really never know until you try to get data out of the SD to use it. Try that tool and it will full the SD card and then read it back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730285
PS. I don't ever buy SD card from eBay anymore.
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you don't need to give feedback in an instant, test it out first then decide.
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erikk said:
Yeah my card passed H2testw. It just came back with speeds I thought were too low for what the card should have been capable of. With the tests I've run with the phone itself I think those slow tests were just indicative of the crap reader my ancient laptop has. So I guess I got lucky in the eBay crapshoot.
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you need a good quality external card reader to get upto standard results, kingston and sandisk has the fastest card reader on the market costing approximate USd 35 - USD 45.
card reader built into laptop does what it suppost to do, but at low speed.
Fake or Real
I have downloaded sd tools on my S3 and I'm getting results of 7.2 MB/s write speed, and, 17.6 MB/s read speed.
Is this fake or real?
Hello all.
I searched through the forums and couldn't find anything so i thought i would ask here.
huawei says this supports 32gb external sd. i have a 64gb card in there now. i know this may seem like a stupid question, but would it support the 128gb micro sd cards that are out now?
would there be any issues reading the files on it?
Get one and let us know!
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Get one and let us know!
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well of course i ordered one without knowing if it will work. i will report back when it arrives.
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well of course i ordered one without knowing if it will work. i will report back when it arrives.
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waiting on you. Soon as you give me the go ahead i'm ordering one right behind you. My brother has on in a Note 3 so lets see if it works on ours. I have a 64gb in now and its working great.
It should arrive Thursday. I ordered a cheap one on eBay just to see if it reads.
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Hello all.
I searched through the forums and couldn't find anything so i thought i would ask here.
huawei says this supports 32gb external sd. i have a 64gb card in there now. i know this may seem like a stupid question, but would it support the 128gb micro sd cards that are out now?
would there be any issues reading the files on it?
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It should work. I asked about 64gb cards and while looking online, found Sandisk's compatibility database. If you search on the HAM2, Sandisk indicates that micro SD cards upto 128 GB should work. http://pct1.sandisk.com/Default.aspx I'm looking forward to your post once you are using your new card.
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It should arrive Thursday. I ordered a cheap one on eBay just to see if it reads.
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How cheap is that? if just 20-40 dollars, then they are definitely fake sdcard. mean you can format/read/write all fine and show 128gb, but they can't hold 128gb content. Just be careful and test it throughly before store your valuable pictures on it.
Somebody give an update! Does the 128 work or what? lol? Take screenshot to prove it
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Somebody give an update! Does the 128 work or what? lol? Take screenshot to prove it
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Hard to believe no one has tried one.
beware eBay FAKE flash cards
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It should arrive Thursday. I ordered a cheap one on eBay just to see if it reads.
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I browsed eBay recently, and found several 128GB microSD cards.
Unfortunately, there is no single one which is not fake (at least, I have not found one).
Some of them are sooooo obvious fakes, that I'm getting shocked to see people buying them (some buyers simply don't have brains).
For instance, I saw several so called Samsung PRO 128GB microSD cards (with photos showing that this is anything but Samsung card, if you pay attention to these pictures). In fact, Samsung never released 128GB microSD card (they don't have such product on their web-site).
But some idiots do buy this junk (it's probably a 8GB card hacked to report itself as 128GB).
Recently, I bought Samsung EVO 64GB microSD on eBay (well, first 4 purchases from different sellers were a disaster - all were a counterfeit). One of the sellers was even a power seller (621 feedback, and not a single negative/neutral one).
I was a buyer #45 of that card, previous 44 buyers bought this junk card and left a positive feedback (either they don't know how to check an SD card, or they left a positive feedback too soon, and now they can not change it).
I was the first one who reported (tested with H2testw) that this card is a FAKE.
Still ... people continue to buy (they don't get bothered with a "COUNTERFEIT card" negative feedback).
Seriously?! If you don't pay attention to such feedbacks, you deserve to be scammed
Only the fifth one was genuine EVO 64GB microSD card.
95% of all microSD cards (64GB and larger) on eBay are fake. Make sure you know how to test it BEFORE you start to use it.
Added: genuine EVO 64GB microSD card works just fine in my HAM2 (at full capacity, though had to reformat it inside the phone - HAM2 did not like default exFAT format)
well said, especially the software (h2testw) to test the sdcard.
so after reading all that ebay buyer beware did you get a 128gb and stick it in your phone or not? lol
Well heck, it sure looks like someone would know by now. Wonder why they aren't saying.
If I don't change my mind I am ordering one of these phones tomorrow and will order a 128 gb card to go with it. If it doesn't work I am going to be like the other poster who said they ordered one and not post anymore. Just kidding.
there is a significant difference between 32GB and 64GB cards.
First is SDHC, second is SDXC.
Windows does not even want to format SDXC card using FAT32 type (only NTFS or exFAT are allowed).
Not all (old) devices are compatible with SDXC. Thus, they are stuck with SDHC, which is up to 32GB only.
But there is not big difference between 64GB and 128GB cards. Both are SDXC, after all.
Thus, if device can work with 64GB card (full capacity , not just 32GB), it HAS to work with 128GB either.
How can it not?!
PS: sorry, but I'm not going to spend $90 just to play with 128GB card. I have three 64GB SD cards, and it is enough for me. (I had 16GB card in my old HTC phone, and did not find a significant reason to switch to 32GB).
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It should arrive Thursday. I ordered a cheap one on eBay just to see if it reads.
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Did you ever receive this 128GB microSD card off eBay seller?
is it a real card? or is it a fake? (you can use h2testw on it, you don't need to write all 128GB on it, 16GB is enough - most fake cards are 8GB or smaller).
meanwhile, I periodically checking responses of other buyers to the same scammer where I bough my fake Samsung 64GB microSD card. He already sold more then 400 those cards, and only 6 people (including me) left a negative feedback telling that this is a pure fake card (one person tested the speed and reported that read/write speed is about 4x slower then claimed - exactly what I measured on my low quality fake card, but still, he left a positive feedback, because he did not bother to use h2testw).
I also saw that one poor fella bought 24 such cards (in a single purchase) couple of days ago. He just wasted his $500+ for that garbage. Unfortunately, eBay hides the information about buyers now. There is no way to contact this buyer and tell him a truth
I got the 128GB card to work in my Ascend Mate 2.
I did however have to format it to FAT32 (It would not recognise NTFS or EXFAT).
I used a program called guiformat.exe
I hope this helps.
There is a program you have to use to format the card into fat32 i believe. I had to use it for my 64gb to be compatible foe my previous note 2
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genpix said:
I browsed eBay recently, and found several 128GB microSD cards.
Unfortunately, there is no single one which is not fake (at least, I have not found one).
Some of them are sooooo obvious fakes, that I'm getting shocked to see people buying them (some buyers simply don't have brains).
For instance, I saw several so called Samsung PRO 128GB microSD cards (with photos showing that this is anything but Samsung card, if you pay attention to these pictures). In fact, Samsung never released 128GB microSD card (they don't have such product on their web-site).
But some idiots do buy this junk (it's probably a 8GB card hacked to report itself as 128GB).
Recently, I bought Samsung EVO 64GB microSD on eBay (well, first 4 purchases from different sellers were a disaster - all were a counterfeit). One of the sellers was even a power seller (621 feedback, and not a single negative/neutral one).
I was a buyer #45 of that card, previous 44 buyers bought this junk card and left a positive feedback (either they don't know how to check an SD card, or they left a positive feedback too soon, and now they can not change it).
I was the first one who reported (tested with H2testw) that this card is a FAKE.
Still ... people continue to buy (they don't get bothered with a "COUNTERFEIT card" negative feedback).
Seriously?! If you don't pay attention to such feedbacks, you deserve to be scammed
Only the fifth one was genuine EVO 64GB microSD card.
95% of all microSD cards (64GB and larger) on eBay are fake. Make sure you know how to test it BEFORE you start to use it.
Added: genuine EVO 64GB microSD card works just fine in my HAM2 (at full capacity, though had to reformat it inside the phone - HAM2 did not like default exFAT format)
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This is why Amazon is your friend. If someone does you like that you can report them and 99.9% of the time Amazon will side with the buyer.
Rommul said:
I got the 128GB card to work in my Ascend Mate 2.
I did however have to format it to FAT32 (It would not recognise NTFS or EXFAT).
I used a program called guiformat.exe
I hope this helps.
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I would always and highly recommend one format the card in the phone. That way it always works best -- whether it's a phone, camera, etc...
E.g., That's what I did when I got my Sandisk Ultra 64GB C10/UHS-1 (Amazon-US). I stuck it in the HAM2, and it immediately offered to format it (FAT32) when I went to Storage, as it couldn't read it (ExFAT).
BTW, for those that don't know, a few things to always remember ...
- In all NT-based Windows (2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8), Microsoft has always defaulted to formatting NTFS and, in more recent years (Windows 7 and 8), ExFAT is offered for devices greater than 32GiB (33.8GB)
- FAT32 has always supported up to 128GiB (137GB), despite the default in Windows' tools, although it does result in a rather large cluster size for 64GB and 128GB devices
- Last time I checked, ExFAT is required for the SDXC branding, and some aspects of UHS performance guarantees, hence why >33.8GB cards come pre-formatted ExFAT
- Because of some of the design to NTFS, tied to the system that created it (long story, has to do with Access Control Entries, ACEs, for security), ExFAT is safer for mobile use
- Microsoft enforces the ExFAT patent far more often, whereas the FAT design has some prior art involved
Again, the easiest way is to just stick the card in and let the device format it. That way it's guaranteed to work with the device. I've just learned to trust this from years of dSLR cameras.
No device I've used in 64 or 128 capacities have given me the ability to physically format within the phone itself. Just reads "Blank card". Then when I tap "Format" it cycles the notification to "Checking card for errors."
Does this on the HAM2, Nvidia Shield, Samsung devices. How are people formatting within their devices?
Also, FWIW I have tested a Sandisk 64GB and 128GB Extreme card (the 128GB is now in the Shield as it's getting quite full of games).
Used "guiformat" (there are a couple other tools floating around) to format to FAT32 (also works on flashdrives and external HDDs).
It works. You can't re-format the card from within the HAM2 though (tested 64/128GB). If you hit "Erase SD Card" it will remount, show "checking for errors", then dismount. And it will continue to do so until you re-format it using a FAT32 program on another machine.
Also, Can't use App2SD but Link2SD works (got "pro" licenses for both).
FWIW both cards were correctly aligned by SDFormatter before being converted, and there are no issues in other devices.