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am i the only one having such slow speeds, that watching a youtube video is not possible unless wifi is enabled?
i can browse the web just fine, but anything youtube related and it falls on its face.
that and my battery lasting a mere 6 hours and i'm beginning to hate this phone. (yes, syncs are turned off, and no live wallpaper exists)
The only fix for this I have found is to return the phone for a refund...
Sad but very true.
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wakdady said:
am i the only one having such slow speeds, that watching a youtube video is not possible unless wifi is enabled?
i can browse the web just fine, but anything youtube related and it falls on its face.
that and my battery lasting a mere 6 hours and i'm beginning to hate this phone. (yes, syncs are turned off, and no live wallpaper exists)
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Well, if you did the Proxy removing trick and you called Sprint to have a "data reset for slow data speeds" and you are positive it isn't just the coverage/local tower saturation. From the sounds of your 6-hour battery you are probably in a low signal area and tower hopping and probably even roaming more than you should. I know mine does that. Mine does all of that even though I usually get decent enough speeds for everything except youtube, which I can stream it just takes an extra 5-10 seconds to buffer.
I'm on my 3rd phone, I've done all of those tricks and they have helped greatly, but, every bit of help it gets just masks the fact that to some of us this phone has terrible signal strength and tower locking and an absurdly low roaming threshold...roaming data is so slow that it's nearly useless for anything but simple web pages.
The only solution I've been able to come up with comes out on Friday I did love this phone, but, I've been in denial for a while now. I wish you better luck than I had.
Sprint 3G is horrible. If you are not on Wi-Fi or 4G watching anything on youtube is impossible. I love how Sprint has the only true unlimited data, but it comes at the price of piss-poor 3G speeds.
Your lucky to get 6 hours of battery use. I can get 6 if I lower my screen brightness to almost 0, turn off gps and sync, and not make any phone calls.
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Sprint 3G is horrible. If you are not on Wi-Fi or 4G watching anything on youtube is impossible. I love how Sprint has the only true unlimited data, but it comes at the price of piss-poor 3G speeds.
Your lucky to get 6 hours of battery use. I can get 6 if I lower my screen brightness to almost 0, turn off gps and sync, and not make any phone calls.
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Piss poor 3G speeds? I always use 3G since there is no 4G where I live, and even if I get around 1 bar, the 3G is amazing. It is incredibly fast. Also, the battery life should last about 12-15 hours with moderate (~3 hours screen on, some calls, medium data/streaming) usage. You might need to get your phone replaced.
But yeah, 3G, WiFi or 4G, the youtube buffering was always really slow on my phone and previous phones.
OP: If you have bad signal and cut in and out of roaming, that could be the battery drain problem. The Photon 4G is great with signal and should get around an extra 3 bars of signal than the Evo 3d does. (I have a friend with it and he gets 5 bars where I get around 1-3 bars) If you really need something for signal, you could sell your Evo for around 200 dollars on craigslist and get an around 200 dollar photon from craigslist.
Do the proxy thing. It won't speed up your data persay but for me if i have the proxy in YouTube doesn't work if I take it out it does. I've done it multiple times. It's really easy.
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yousefak said:
Piss poor 3G speeds? I always use 3G since there is no 4G where I live, and even if I get around 1 bar, the 3G is amazing. It is incredibly fast. Also, the battery life should last about 12-15 hours with moderate (~3 hours screen on, some calls, medium data/streaming) usage. You might need to get your phone replaced.
But yeah, 3G, WiFi or 4G, the youtube buffering was always really slow on my phone and previous phones.
OP: If you have bad signal and cut in and out of roaming, that could be the battery drain problem. The Photon 4G is great with signal and should get around an extra 3 bars of signal than the Evo 3d does. (I have a friend with it and he gets 5 bars where I get around 1-3 bars) If you really need something for signal, you could sell your Evo for around 200 dollars on craigslist and get an around 200 dollar photon from craigslist.
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Agreed. Having owned an evo (currently using), photon, and a 3d ill have to say that the reception issue was definitely the phone (3d) and NOT the network.
At work with my evo 4g and I can buffer a HQ youtube video fairly quickly with just one bar of reception. Yet on the 3D I can even buffer a non hq youtube video at ALL. even on wifi it couldn't stream a vid. Piss poor. The mopho was excellent. On par or better than my evo.
I shouldn't have to do all these tweaks to my phone to make it work AS A PHONE. that is the one of the main things on my list that MUST work out of the box.
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yousefak said:
Piss poor 3G speeds? I always use 3G since there is no 4G where I live, and even if I get around 1 bar, the 3G is amazing. It is incredibly fast. Also, the battery life should last about 12-15 hours with moderate (~3 hours screen on, some calls, medium data/streaming) usage. You might need to get your phone replaced.
But yeah, 3G, WiFi or 4G, the youtube buffering was always really slow on my phone and previous phones.
OP: If you have bad signal and cut in and out of roaming, that could be the battery drain problem. The Photon 4G is great with signal and should get around an extra 3 bars of signal than the Evo 3d does. (I have a friend with it and he gets 5 bars where I get around 1-3 bars) If you really need something for signal, you could sell your Evo for around 200 dollars on craigslist and get an around 200 dollar photon from craigslist.
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Then you are lucky. Many of us live in areas with good sprint coverage...I always get 4 or higher bars but download speeds of 50 kps..around there. I only get 200 plus in the late hours..2 am and such. You tube lags and the rest of slow download headaches. Not everybody has good speeds like you and I am not a betting man, but I would think the majority of us get ****ty speeds. Hell, my cricket phone before I went sprint had faster speeds, but service was awful. Not flaming, just stating the truth. Sprint has ****ty speeds, period. Some of us, the majority...have much, much slower speeds then you
I have to agree with everyone else. I get good coverage and I'm connected to sprint's 3G network not 1x and I consistantly get below 100kbs. My phone is basically unusable without wifi connected. Once in a while I'll get like 500kbs and it feels like 4G! So Lame. It's a good thing Sprint doesn't throttle data! LMAO If they did the speeds would be like 10kbs!
maybe the problem is not on the phone but on the carrier.. i have the Evo in Portugal and the youtube speed is normal over mobile data (and not wifi) and my battery always lasts about 48 hours..
i live in the San Francisco Bay area and we have very good 3G and 4G in many areas. but it still sucks. it wasnt this bad when i first got the phone.
can someone send me a link or how-to on the proxy thingy?
what other phone options do i have that either meet or excel in the specs compared to a evo3d?
wakdady said:
i live in the San Francisco Bay area and we have very good 3G and 4G in many areas. but it still sucks. it wasnt this bad when i first got the phone.
can someone send me a link or how-to on the proxy thingy?
what other phone options do i have that either meet or excel in the specs compared to a evo3d?
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The Photon. And in a week or two from Friday check the epic touch 4g forums to see how their reception is
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I have trouble streaming youtube on 3G too. Usually I use 4G.....but yeah its kinda annoying
I haven't had any issues on my Evo...but I know youtube themselves, (streaming from a desktop with 60 megs down...has been painfully slow...and it's only youtube.
There have been some posts on battery life being terrible lately, and here is a little alternative way to improve your battery life that I found out by accident.
We all know that Sprint 3g speeds have been taking a crapper lately, I don't think I even get 300kbps downstream anymore. I wanted to download a ROM so I quickly toggled on 4g (which I hadn't used yet on my phone) and found I was getting downstream of 2mbps - 4mbps, not great but certainly 10x as good as my 3g.
After my download, I mistakenly left 4g enabled. I come from the OG Evo where if I left 4g on my phone was dead so fast at work due to no signal. However, I found that my MoPho just put the 4g radio on standby and didn't need me to do anything and the battery wasn't draining.
So I came to this conclusion, since the 4g radio management so far seems to be pretty good for the MoPho, if the power consumption by the 4g radio is < than the factor of speed the speeds are over 3g, maybe some Angry birds, I can't remember, then it is probably worth it to leave your 4g on. Save battery + faster downloads = win!
I don't have a screencap for this, but the other day, I was off my charger for about 16 hours, had 15-20% battery left. I streamed some Pandora, downloaded a bit, read some RSS, email, a couple texts, some phone calls and had the 4g enabled all day. Not bad I say.
Doesn't 4G still have to come on every so often to push or pull email and whatnot?
Yea, but the premise is still sound I think.
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check out the pic. notice when i went to 3g when i went out for a bit, my battery just dropped... i didn't use the phone that much when I was out, and it still drained that much. hmm.
actually right now I can't upload a pic. anyone else having that issue from the app?
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No problems on my end bro!
VZW has had problems with their data system for the last 3 or 4 months. Your issues are probably related to to the problems all 4G phones are experiencing these days. You will see people in all the 4G forums complaining of losing data and low signals killing batteries. Saturday I was in a low signal area and kept losing 4G down to 1X and that also heated up my battery for the first time since I got the phone.
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i just have nothing to compare it to, because everywhere i go, i use wifi all the time lol....i haven't used just 3g in SO damn long, so i don't have a basis to compare with the rezound
Idling on 3G doesn't seem to hurt me too bad (I usually let juice defender keep it off to mitigate the risk), but actually using it is way more draining than wifi. I can sit online all night at home on wifi, but only get about two hours of solid use when I'm out and about.
Going to a 4G city this weekend for the first time. Bringing backup batteries.
I think what may be happening is that once it drops to 3g or 1x it tries hard to get back to 4g and that is what hurts more than anything.
Try forcing it to 3g only and see if you have the same drop in battery under preferably the same conditions.
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I think what may be happening is that once it drops to 3g or 1x it tries hard to get back to 4g and that is what hurts more than anything.
Try forcing it to 3g only and see if you have the same drop in battery under preferably the same conditions.
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Yes,that is what happened to me Saturday,it dropped to 1X and overheated trying to get back to 4G.
I did force it to 3G and it still stayed hot. But I had that happen once with my Thunderbolt, so I feel it is the vzw data signal not the phone.
3G kills battery compared to wifi.
i shut off 4g the day i got it lol...yeah, i think 3g just uses noticably more battery tahn wifi
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3G kills battery compared to wifi.
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definately. i can sit at home, connected to my wifi, and i can get like 2 or 3 days out of the battery. with light usage that is. on 3g though, with light usage, i'm lucky if i can get a full day.
3g actually saves my battery, somehow 4g and WiFi take more battery for me
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lmao, awesome username.
Just realized that that thing I had to climb up to get to my front door is actually a Verizon Cell phone tower!
So, just noticed this condition today and thought I'd share. I have a Smart Action set up to enable my Home Wi-Fi based on location - Trigger is my location; Actions are to turn on Wi-Fi, turn off Data and Max Ringer.
While home this afternoon I just happened to look at my phone and noticed that my battery seemed to be dropping a little quicker than normal and my cell signal strength was max bars which NEVER NEVER happens at home - kind of on the fringe in my house and I'm lucky to get 3 on a good day. I checked network strength and my 4G was 2147483647 db. Gotta be a world record, right? oh wait . . . is more db bad?
Just got me wondering if, while on the fringe, the radio actively looks for a signal (like it does between 1X, 3G and 4G) and maybe gets stuck in some type of high output state. Would explain some of the intermittent hi-temp, unusual battery drain I experience occaisionally/intermittently. Just so we're clear - I'm not complaining at all about my Maxx battery.
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jeff_roey said:
Just realized that that thing I had to climb up to get to my front door is actually a Verizon Cell phone tower!
So, just noticed this condition today and thought I'd share. I have a Smart Action set up to enable my Home Wi-Fi based on location - Trigger is my location; Actions are to turn on Wi-Fi, turn off Data and Max Ringer.
While home this afternoon I just happened to look at my phone and noticed that my battery seemed to be dropping a little quicker than normal and my cell signal strength was max bars which NEVER NEVER happens at home - kind of on the fringe in my house and I'm lucky to get 3 on a good day. I checked network strength and my 4G was 2147483647 db. Gotta be a world record, right? oh wait . . . is more db bad?
Just got me wondering if, while on the fringe, the radio actively looks for a signal (like it does between 1X, 3G and 4G) and maybe gets stuck in some type of high output state. Would explain some of the intermittent hi-temp, unusual battery drain I experience occaisionally/intermittently. Just so we're clear - I'm not complaining at all about my Maxx battery.
Running stock .211 rooted.
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I thought after 120 db it actually means you've lost signal.....optimal is between 80 to 120....
I could be wrong
I saw that exact same thing on my Maxx the other day. I also noticed battery declining due to it. Not sure what it means though.
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squiggie said:
I saw that exact same thing on my Maxx the other day. I also noticed battery declining due to it. Not sure what it means though.
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It means your have no signal, and your battery is dying from your LTE radio trying to find signal. dbm between -80 and -120 is not optimal, that is the range where verizon techs will tell you that you may experience data connectivity issues. The lower the dbm the better signal you have, however most extended 4g service areas are at this quality. I have seen some locations, closer to the towers, where I have gotten signal around -60dbm, which gave about 38mbps down and around 16mbps up.
I ordered a sleek 4g signal booster from wilson electronics, which will get here tomorrow, and will let you guys know how much improvement I get in areas with different signal strengths.
i've seen it countless times on my razr. I think it's just a bug
No signal but my signal bars show as full? That makes no sense whatsoever. I think I have to agree that it is just a weird bug.
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I'll tell the truth. Wilson electronics sleek 4g-v is not going to improve SINR signal strength (that's what you need for better LTE speed), however it will improve RSSI signal, but this is not going to help for LTE. If you want a good LTE amplifier, you are looking to spend about $500 that includes outdoor, indoor antenna and SINR amplifier. SINR is more important then RSSI or DBM for LTE
I know with other Verizon 4G phones that disabling LTE can give a solid boost in battery life. Can anyone weigh in on this? My understanding so far is that battery life is about average (obviously with 4G on). This is a compromise I'd be willing to make if battery life is better with LTE off.
Also on the same note, is toggling 4G/3G easily done in the settings app or is hidden away like on the S3?
I feel those claims aren't really substantial, assuming you are in a good coverage area I've found to get better battery life on 4G. Syncing and downloads are much faster over 4G. Now if you are in a poor coverage area where it's switching between 3G and 4G, that's a different story.
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Its a myth, if you are in solid coverage area over 4g you should not get bad battery life, it is lower latency and stronger signal. When you are in bad coverage are and your phone is constantly switching between 4g and 3g, that is when its s problem. That is when you should just switch to 3g until you go in to a better 4g coverage area.