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Been lurking for sometime learning things here and there, but now I've got an issue of my own I been pulling hair out over for the last 6 hrs.
I Upgraded to 2.11.605.9 Verizon OTA release today... attempted to use the revolutionary tool to re-root after the upgrade. Well that didn't work. I just get the message "Zerging Root... this might take a minute or so.. Failed to get Root! "
I have tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423 the non root users section. With no luck.
Pretty new at this stuff, so if someone can let me if its possible to get s-off, i'd just like to downgrade to an earlier pg05img and NOT get the latest update So i can use revolutionary root.
Thanks in advance.
Nick
Try this..
This thread sounds like the same problem as what you are having. Read what the last two commenters did to correct the problem they are having.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308324
Also, the thread you originally posted is for returning back to stock, which is not the case. You want to refer to this thread at Thunderbolt Forums in order to acquire root...
http://www.thunderboltforums.com/fo...ry-5-minutes-less-root-without-data-loss.html
Confirm that you are following each and every step. In addition, make sure you are using the USB ports on the back of your PC opposed to the ones in the front. Good luck!
CaptainStrange said:
This thread sounds like the same problem as what you are having. Read what the last two commenters did to correct the problem they are having.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308324
Also, the thread you originally posted is for returning back to stock, which is not the case. You want to refer to this thread at Thunderbolt Forums in order to acquire root...
http://www.thunderboltforums.com/fo...ry-5-minutes-less-root-without-data-loss.html
Confirm that you are following each and every step. In addition, make sure you are using the USB ports on the back of your PC opposed to the ones in the front. Good luck!
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I've rooted multiple times using the method above, but since the update, I can't get past the Zerging Root step, even following the posts from the first link you sent
Flashed the Pg image using .androidpolice.com/2011/10/24/exclusive-gingerbread-build-2-11-605-5-for-the-htc-thunderbolt-fixes-several-issues-from-the-previous-leak/[/url] and it works, I was able to re-root using the rev.
Capt....
I am having the same problem as him. After I got this warranty replacement yesterday, no matter what I tried, I can't get past "zerging root". Cannot gain root access. I see you said to flash that image, but how do you do that if you cannot get s-off. I have also rooted thunderbolt several times using the "one click method" (which is also not working for this new 2.11. 605.9 build) and revolutionary. Any suggestions or instructions?
You dont need S-off to load that image... Simply download the file and rename it pg05img.zip and put it on the root of your SD card. Reboot the phone and hold down the vol down + power button to access the bootloader, push the volume button and it will search the sd card for the pg05img.zip file and load it. Just keep in mind it will reload it to factory settings, so back anything up that you have. It takes about 15 mins, but it does work. Once you have that image loaded from the link above you can use the revolutionary root. Let me know if you need help.
Rooting after 2.11.605.9 on TB solution
For those of you that have endured the frustration of updating to the latest software version (2.11.605.9) There is hope! Apparently with this software version, the bootloader is locked. And for some reason this version would not allow the "Revolutionary" rooting method to work. (I would imagine everyone with this problem had issues with not being able to get past Zerg Root. At least that was the problem I had)
Anyways, I got my phone rooted....heres how.
Per the instructions for using Revolutionary, install the driver as stated on their website. (Make sure HTC Sync is not installed on your computer)
Download Mecha_2.11.605.3.zip (I'm a newbie here so I cant post links, but I found it through Android Police but if u google it its easy to find, its hosted on multi upload) rename the zip file as PG05IMG and put on the root of your SD card (as you would in other rooting methods) and run the bootloader.
Once its booted and all that fun waiting is over and your TB powers back up, make sure to turn off all wireless connections to make sure OTA doesnt try to upgrade you. (I turned on airplane mode as soon as I could)
From there run Revolutionary as instructed from their website. Worked like a charm for me, and hope it does for all of you with this same problem.
I TAKE ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIT FOR THIS SOLUTION. Thank you for all you developers out there that make our phones able to be so much cooler and more enjoyable. I'm just glad I could help in this marginal way, and hope that someone will find it usefull. SPREAD THE WORD IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE HAVING
So if I unroot and my phone takes the latest 2.11.605..9 update, all I have to do is flash the 2.11.605.5 RUU, put phone into airplane mode as soon as it boots, then I can root again?
I am not sure if I missed something but I followed those steps. When I went into boot, it said my version is "older- failed" and won't revert to the .5
I am miserable here with stock. I want to be rooted again.
Any thing else I can do?
Not sure why it wouldn't let you revert to an earlier RUU. Have you tried other earlier versions other than .5? The RUU I used was 2.11.605.3. Try that one. What version bootloader do you have? Also is there Pink letter at the top that says LOCKED?
I have not tried an earlier version... Yet. Will try and will update you. But the bootloader says "***locked***" s-on on the main screen. So I am not sure any older one will work. I read other people were able to accept a downgrade so I am hopeful.
Bootloader 1.5 and yes... It is ***locked*** sigh...
Try loading the 2.11.605.3 If it works just make sure you disable wireless connections when it boots, so OTA doesn't push the upgrade
Even if the OTA comes up before you disable any wireless connection it will download the OTA but then ask if you want to accept or defer. Just hit defer and proceed with the Revolutionary method to root and gain s-off.
*Note: when you hit defer on the OTA, it asks you for a date to remind you, I just set the date to 12/29/2099. If anyone is still using this phone on that date, please tell them not to accept the OTA
Ok guys hold on now, this is kind of misleaing... so did the OP have s-off for the downgrade ? Revolutionary has a password protected HBOOT that was designed to maintain s-off during an OTA or upgrade RUU, hence the reason a downgrade would be possible... Is the OP able to confirm they had S-OFF during the upgrade or S-ON. If i upgrade to 2.11.605.9 on a stock phone S-ON, am i going to be able to downgrade with ease ? I would say no.. not without tricking the bootloader into thinking its an older version which is what the commands are for:
adb push misc.img /data/local/
adb shell dd if=/data/local/misc.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p17
However you can't do this without a temporary root shell.
on build 2.11.605.9 there is no exploit for temporary root shell currently..
Please clarify.. ?
rberry88 said:
*Note: when you hit defer on the OTA, it asks you for a date to remind you, I just set the date to 12/29/2099. If anyone is still using this phone on that date, please tell them not to accept the OTA
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No matter how far out you pick, the limit is 5 days. Picking anything longer, the phone will tell you that.
Like I was saying before the OTA came out, this OTA patches zergRush.
Bootloader has always been locked, this is not new.
I have a few vulns found, and erishasnobattery and I have a couple working exploits done.
However I am on vacation and wont be home until late tonight, once I am we will get something packaged and released for root.
Until then (this isn't the one we are going to release)
Awesome, i just bought my wife a t-bolt Friday and it did an OTA (that i just assumed was the same old gingerbread update that my buddy got but apparently it wasn't because i could not root. Thanks jcase for working on this for us.
I was able to get root with 2.11.605.9
I was already on 2.11.605.5 with root and S-OFF (revolutionary). Perhaps you can try one of the earlier releases such as MR2? This is what you do to get root with 2.11.605.9 if you can get your phone back to 2.11.605.5 or older:
1. Reinstall 2.11.605.5 stock (no root). I got the file from Android Police. I had to rename the file as PG05IMG.zip and run it from the bootloader.
2. Obtain S-OFF with Revolutionary after 2.11.605.5 has installed. Do not install clockworkmod or super user yet.
3. Allow the 2.11.605.9 OTA to be installed. Let the phone do it's thing, the update took my phone awhile.
4. Install Clockwork Recovery (again rename it as PG05IMG.zip and run it from the bootloader)
5. Boot into bootloader again and select Recovery. Install superuser.
6. Reboot and enjoy.
PS. I stumbled upon this on another thread here.
So I'm on a new phone that just did the .9 update about 10 minutes ago and then I find this thread after failing to root. So I'm s on stock everything. I can't revert can I? I'm screwed. I hate stock phones. Adds everywhere. No tether boring no options. I want my skyraider back.
I have a question please:
I have uproot it the EVO 3D, two moths back, and I have get this two updates, (but unsuccessfully fail) not sure if I need them
Android 2.3.4
HTC 3.0
Software 2.08.651.3
1-system enhancement 29.13 mb
2- OTA_Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_2.17.651.5-2.08.651.3_release_2353522hivy65lggcg2tmb.zip
How to update?
or
Do I need them?
PS. How to turn the S-on to S-off
I was reading on one of the posts.."Is it possible to get s-off, root, recovery - keep the stock ROM and still take OTA updates?".......
This question is in relation to the s-off or S-on.
thanks for your patients.
It all depends on if you are rooted or not, and if you plan to root in the future.
The updates are not "needed", you phone will run just fine without them.
If you are rooted, NEVER take an OTA update. Download the stock rooted rom with that version, and flash it.
If you are unrooted, you can just take the update by going to settings-system updates-software update. However, if you want to root, do it before updating, as updating could screw you with the locked hboot.
sitlet said:
It all depends on if you are rooted or not, and if you plan to root in the future.
The updates are not "needed", you phone will run just fine without them.
If you are rooted, NEVER take an OTA update. Download the stock rooted rom with that version, and flash it.
If you are unrooted, you can just take the update by going to settings-system updates-software update. However, if you want to root, do it before updating, as updating could screw you with the locked hboot.
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Ok I am rooted, some one did for me, the S-on/ Hboot -1.5
I keep getting the updates via OTA, and others, even if I update does nothing.
You mention the .."stock root rom" not sure how to make that move, I appreciated your suggestions.
I keep getting the updates via OTA, and others, even if I update does nothing.
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That's because you can't and shouldn't take OTA updates when you are rooted. Every single root guide tells you this.
You mention the .."stock root rom" not sure how to make that move, I appreciated your suggestions.
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Find the latest stock rom in the Development section, and flash it just like any other rom.
In order to take the update, you would have to re-lock your phone, since your friend rooted yours using the HTC unlocking method. If you re-lock your phone, you can get the updates, but would have to go through the rooting process again. In some cases, I've read, it doesn't work.
If you want the updates, then search the Dev threads for a stock version of the newest update and flash it to your phone, if you are wanting them. Otherwise, I'd leave well-enough alone, if not having problems with your phone.
updates
Road_Dog said:
In order to take the update, you would have to re-lock your phone, since your friend rooted yours using the HTC unlocking method. If you re-lock your phone, you can get the updates, but would have to go through the rooting process again. In some cases, I've read, it doesn't work.
If you want the updates, then search the Dev threads for a stock version of the newest update and flash it to your phone, if you are wanting them. Otherwise, I'd leave well-enough alone, if not having problems with your phone.
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Thanks for all your suggestions.
No I not sure about the updates! I was thinking that one of those updates was to remove the 'Carrier IQ'.
So I like the my phone is rooted, but I like to remove the Carrier IQ also.
Another reason why did the rooted is 'free wife' that gives me, that is the only web we have.
If any other suggestions please send it my way all are welcome.
Thanks olmo47
olmo47 said:
Thanks for all your suggestions.
No I not sure about the updates! I was thinking that one of those updates was to remove the 'Carrier IQ'.
So I like the my phone is rooted, but I like to remove the Carrier IQ also.
Another reason why did the rooted is 'free wife' that gives me, that is the only web we have.
If any other suggestions please send it my way all are welcome.
Thanks olmo47
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Pretty sure rooting does not give you a free wife. Also, you have hboot 1.5 so you cannot have s-off. Also, many of the ROMs available for you to flash have carrier IQ removed already. One mo gain, Never update your phone if its rooted.
Twolazyg said:
Pretty sure rooting does not give you a free wife. Also, you have hboot 1.5 so you cannot have s-off. Also, many of the ROMs available for you to flash have carrier IQ removed already. One mo gain, Never update your phone if its rooted.
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Take the battery out and out it back, don't conect with the use cable. After star the you can conect the cable.
olmo47 said:
I have a question please:
I have uproot it the EVO 3D, two moths back, and I have get this two updates, (but unsuccessfully fail) not sure if I need them
Android 2.3.4
HTC 3.0
Software 2.08.651.3
1-system enhancement 29.13 mb
2- OTA_Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_2.17.651.5-2.08.651.3_release_2353522hivy65lggcg2tmb.zip
How to update?
or
Do I need them?
PS. How to turn the S-on to S-off
I was reading on one of the posts.."Is it possible to get s-off, root, recovery - keep the stock ROM and still take OTA updates?".......
This question is in relation to the s-off or S-on.
thanks for your patients.
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1. Can't uproot a phone.
2. How many worms if 2 moths back?
3. So, you unsuccessfully failed. Success?
4. I never gave you any patients; they're at the hospital.
Sent from my HTC popout book.
wifi
Twolazyg said:
Pretty sure rooting does not give you a free wife. Also, you have hboot 1.5 so you cannot have s-off. Also, many of the ROMs available for you to flash have carrier IQ removed already. One mo gain, Never update your phone if its rooted.
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here you go:http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
this how I get free WiFi.
Forgive me for starting a new thread; I've utilized the search here and some Google-fu, but still have questions for the community.
I recently upgraded to an HTC Rezound from a Thunderbolt, and have accepted the stock OTA ICS update last weekend.
This has not stopped me from Rooting the device, however. Using an All-In-One Toolkit downloaded here, I was able to Unlock the Bootloader, Install custom Recovery (ClockWorkMod Touch), and have SU flashed. All signs point to root, but I would like to know a few things.
- Is there currently any method of acquiring S-OFF, other than the juopunutBear "Wire Trick"? It sounds incredibly risky, and I feel a bit hesitant to try it connecting pins on the back of my phone with insulated wire... I would like to have S-OFF, in case I want to roll back using a PH98IMG.zip
After rooting, I noticed that the text ****TAMPERED**** appears above the UNLOCKED line when I power on into HBOOT. Is this normal? Or have I messed things up? The best answer I have gleaned so far is from another device's forum, and that this simply indicates that I have root.
Would love to hear some feedback. This is my 5th Smartphone starting with the G1, and I have rooted every single one within days. Only the Rezound seems to be the trickiest for me.
Let me know your thoughts, thanks.
The hboot says tampered after you install a custom recovery so that's normal. I was the same way about s-off it seemed to risky and complicated but in all honesty it is very simple. It's our only way to get s-off and the main thing is getting the timing right for the wire trick. I got it on my second try. I would say just read up on it and gain as much info until you feel comfortable to do it.
Sent From My HTC Rezound
big_mike_2k6 said:
The hboot says tampered after you install a custom recovery so that's normal. I was the same way about s-off it seemed to risky and complicated but in all honesty it is very simple. It's our only way to get s-off and the main thing is getting the timing right for the wire trick. I got it on my second try. I would say just read up on it and gain as much info until you feel comfortable to do it.
Sent From My HTC Rezound
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Thanks, that confirms a number of suspicions. & As I understand it, I need to be S-OFF in order to flash a custom ROM, correct?
And this is due to the fact that I not only have to flash the ROM in recovery, but also flash a Kernel through HBOOT?
I want to start flashing custom ROMs, but in the meantime, I'm fairly happy with rooted ICS. Got Google Now working, removed 'App Associations' menu, and removed the VZW crapware, so root is working out rather well
deadsoulboy said:
Thanks, that confirms a number of suspicions. & As I understand it, I need to be S-OFF in order to flash a custom ROM, correct?
And this is due to the fact that I not only have to flash the ROM in recovery, but also flash a Kernel through HBOOT?
I want to start flashing custom ROMs, but in the meantime, I'm fairly happy with rooted ICS. Got Google Now working, removed 'App Associations' menu, and removed the VZW crapware, so root is working out rather well
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You don't need to be s-off to flash a Rom but you do need to flash the kernel separate in hboot when you're s-on. When you're s-off you don't have to. I myself usually stay fairly close to stock with a few tweaks here and there and of course Verizons crap long gone.
Sent From My HTC Rezound
One more thing... Given my software version, etc, if I S-OFF now, would I bork my device?
Also, it looks like at the unlimited.io site, there is only a Windows version of juopunutbear for Gingerbread, and early ICS versions. My phone's software is on version is 3.14.605.12; does this mean I should abandon attempting to S-OFF ?
deadsoulboy said:
One more thing... Given my software version, etc, if I S-OFF now, would I bork my device?
Also, it looks like at the unlimited.io site, there is only a Windows version of juopunutbear for Gingerbread, and early ICS versions. My phone's software is on version is 3.14.605.12; does this mean I should abandon attempting to S-OFF ?
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No you'll be fine doing it on your current version. You can use the file from the unlimited.io site for the 3.14.605.05 ics leak it works with the official ics update.
Sent From My HTC Rezound
i know clockwork will bork your device im not sure if the touch version does the same thing.
I recommend installing Amon Ra recovery or TWRP.
If i helped thanks me
Hi all! This is my first post and hope it's not too silly of a question. I am currently using a Thunderbolt but very likely will be upgrading to a Rezound (I have both phones now). I know the ICS OTA is out for Rezound. I want to get root and S-off on Rezound running the stock ICS OTA, but I am not sure about the order of events.
1. Should I get S-off and root on the stock Gingerbread rom per the instructions in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823362), and then upgrade to the ICS OTA? Or should I upgrade the stock Gingerbread to ICS OTA and then attempt to get S-off and root?
2. Is a confirmed s-off/root procedure out for the stock ICS OTA? sorry if I missed it - I promise I did my best searching through the forum before posting
I thought I'd start with the stock ICS OTA rom so I'll get a baseline for when I try out other roms down the road. And from what I've read here, the stock rom is probably a little bit more robust for day to day (correct me if I am wrong!). I hate the verizon bloatware and I think I'd be happy for a while if I can have S-off and root on the stock ICS.
thanks in advance for any help!
from scratch
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
haha Yeah roms are pretty addictive! So my background in rooting is limited to the Thunderbolt, which is my first smartphone. I used the Revolutionary IO method, which got me S-Off and root. But after reading through the Juopunutbear (Unlimited IO), I am slightly confused. I definitely did not do the wiring procedures involving the antennae contacts to get S-Off with the thunderbolt. I did more research and it sounds like the S-Off in thunderbolt is a "fake" S-off from a patched hboot?
That also leads to my next questions... up until now, I thought the following:
1. hboot = bootloader, which is the "BIOS" of the phone
2. In order to be rooted, S-off must happen first (this I guess is not true from your steps)
3. Recovery = part of hboot (from what I've read so far, this is incorrect too)
Also, would you elaborate on step #4? I thought unlocked is what I want, but instead I really want to have S-off and locked bootloader?
Thanks!
michaelbsheldon said:
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
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yep
yo!
hboot is bootloader alright: some folks like a modified hboot which lets you do more than stock hboot.
personally I keep the stock ICS hboot 2.25.
nope, you dont have to be s-0ff to be rooted, only unlocked.
You can do most all modifications with unlock EXCEPT go back to previous hboot & rom.
Recovery is separate from hboot. Recovery is a menu choice in hboot.
A new recovery can only be installed if unlocked or s-0ff.
There's ClockworkMod and AmonRa. You'll wanna check them out both, I like Amon Ra.
re: step #4.
I know it's counterintuitive, but if you unlock it again after s-0ff, even though it's s-0ff, you will
have a nasty PINK Tampered flag every time you boot to hboot/custom recovery. And that crappy reminder stays
even after you you relock. The Juopunutbear process relocks the phone, making it S-0ff, Locked. Perfect.
Now with S-0ff, locked or unlocked doesn't matter regarding any roms or radios you may install and No warning flags.
Dont be intimidated by the wire procedure for s-0ff, just read it so many times beforehand that you effen KNOW it.
Enjoy: my Zound is so fast cool and perfect now that ive customized it to my useage pattern - hoping for
same experience for you!.
dashbored said:
Hi all! This is my first post and hope it's not too silly of a question. I am currently using a Thunderbolt but very likely will be upgrading to a Rezound (I have both phones now). I know the ICS OTA is out for Rezound. I want to get root and S-off on Rezound running the stock ICS OTA, but I am not sure about the order of events.
1. Should I get S-off and root on the stock Gingerbread rom per the instructions in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823362), and then upgrade to the ICS OTA? Or should I upgrade the stock Gingerbread to ICS OTA and then attempt to get S-off and root?
2. Is a confirmed s-off/root procedure out for the stock ICS OTA? sorry if I missed it - I promise I did my best searching through the forum before posting
I thought I'd start with the stock ICS OTA rom so I'll get a baseline for when I try out other roms down the road. And from what I've read here, the stock rom is probably a little bit more robust for day to day (correct me if I am wrong!). I hate the verizon bloatware and I think I'd be happy for a while if I can have S-off and root on the stock ICS.
thanks in advance for any help!
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I basically had the exact same questions. Here's what I figured out:
S-Off, then Stock Recovery, then ICS OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821303
After post #6, go to the next link...
... Then flash AR Recovery 3.15:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827263
I had to unlock my hboot again, which means I wiped my data... However, I've read that adding a custom hboot is very risky, since your phone can't run anything if this gets screwed up. I'm no expert, but this is what I've read. So re-unlocking felt safer to me, even if it was probably a little more hassle. Better than bricking, imo.
A word of caution about custom recovery: Clockwork Mod (CWM) has a serious bug that does not allow the Rezound to charge properly! When my battery died, I had to use my wife's Thunderbolt to charge the battery before I could turn my Rezound back on... A royal pain. I installed AR Recovery, and it's perfect.
... Then continue at the first link at post #7 for how to use AR Recovery to flash superSU to restore root.
I'm thinking about writing up a simple guide, since that was the hardest thing for me to find through this process.
Rezound
AR Recovery 3.15
Stock hboot
ICS OTA
Rooted
I sold the Thunderbolt today and so now I've officially transitioned over to the Rezound! The phone is the stock gingerbread. I am dying to root it if only just so I can use titanium back up to transfer my crap over.
Thanks guys for the helpful replies! I've decided that right now, what I want is to be on the ICS OTA but with S-off & root so I can remove the bloat and optimize it. I'll stay with that for a bit to get a baseline before trying out different ROMs
What kind of wires did you guys use for the S-off procedure? Do I need to go out and buy something specific, or is there something around the typical household setting that I can grab? Obviously, not frying the phone is top priority. I've read through too much posts in the past 48 hours and I've come across a few that mentioned fried USB ports and even dead phones that had to be returned, which's made me a bit tentative. But I want S-off, so any pointers/comments you may have that would help about this would be much appreciated!
michaelbsheldon - question about your steps #1 & #2. Aren't these extraneous steps, as in you could just do the S-off wire with the stock Gingerbread? I am kinda confused as to the purpose of unlocking it first via HTC Dev and flashing a stockish ROM before the wire trick.
bloodymurderlive said:
I basically had the exact same questions. Here's what I figured out:
S-Off, then Stock Recovery, then ICS OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821303
After post #6, go to the next link...
... Then flash AR Recovery 3.15:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827263
I had to unlock my hboot again, which means I wiped my data... However, I've read that adding a custom hboot is very risky, since your phone can't run anything if this gets screwed up. I'm no expert, but this is what I've read. So re-unlocking felt safer to me, even if it was probably a little more hassle. Better than bricking, imo.
A word of caution about custom recovery: Clockwork Mod (CWM) has a serious bug that does not allow the Rezound to charge properly! When my battery died, I had to use my wife's Thunderbolt to charge the battery before I could turn my Rezound back on... A royal pain. I installed AR Recovery, and it's perfect.
... Then continue at the first link at post #7 for how to use AR Recovery to flash superSU to restore root.
I'm thinking about writing up a simple guide, since that was the hardest thing for me to find through this process.
Rezound
AR Recovery 3.15
Stock hboot
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Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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I'm going to give you a response this afternooon... I recommend that you don't do anything until I can clarify some things. brt...
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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It doesn't matter much if you do the OTA update before or after s-off. If it were me, I would do the OTA update first, especially if you are still locked....then unlock and do s-off using the proper ICS (for .5) jounuputbear. You can keep the stock hboot. NO NEED to unlock after s-off! AFter s-off, flash your Amonra recovery and then flash your SU...or just flash a rooted ROM. I haven't looked a lot, but I bet there is a stock, rooted, debloated ROM based on this OTA...just flash that and you'll be all set! ....
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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dashbored... The thing you need to understand is that everyone has their own way of doing things. You need to either (a) study everything everyone says until you understand everything well enough to create your own process, or (b) follow somebody else's process. I will provide you with one below.
In regards to the latest comments...
Flash CleanROM?
I see very little point in flashing a ROM, if you're trying to get the official ICS, root, and S-OFF. I believe the purpose of flashing the ROM is that the ROM is already rooted for you. However, you will need to re-root after you install the OTA, so why not do the same process twice (flash superSU) rather than two different processes (flash ROM, flash superSU)? Seems to me that flashing CleanROM introduces more variables than necessary.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but I wouldn't try to install the OTA unless you are running stock Gingerbread. Alternatively, you could try to find a ROM based on the official ICS OTA, but the OTA is still very new... I would just do it the "proper" way (install through Gingerbread) and let those ROMs cook a little more before playing with them.
S-OFF before or after OTA?
I recommend achieving S-OFF before installing the OTA. The S-OFF procedure may very well work with the OTA, but it is guaranteed to work with stock Gingerbread. There is an ICS option in hansoon2000's all-in-one toolkit, but this is based on a leak... Which again is probably very similar (if not identical) to the OTA. But the official OTA is very new, so... In my opinion, the surest thing is to achieve S-OFF before installing the OTA.
Unlock after S-OFF?
My bootloader was locked after I installed the OTA update. What I discovered was that I was unable to flash any custom recoveries (AR Recovery 3.15). Even though I was S-OFF, I still needed to unlock before it would let me flash a recovery.
What I think some people do after achieving S-OFF is install a custom bootloader, and this is why they're able to install custom recoveries without having to unlock again. This is risky. As I understand it, nothing can run on your Rezound if your bootloader has a problem. So if you happen to install a corrupt bootloader, you could brick your Rezound.
It is kind of a pain to go through the HTC unlock process twice, but hey... It's up to you how much risk you're willing to take with your brand new Rezound. I took the safe route. It took maybe a little more time, and I had to do some steps twice (achieving root for GB, then for ICS... unlocking before and after ICS...), but since you only have to go through this whole process once, I recommend playing it safe.
PINK Tampered flag?
I unlocked again after achieving S-OFF. I just double-checked, and I do not see any pink "Tampered" flag anywhere in my bootloader. If you follow my instructions below, this shouldn't happen.
My start-to-finish recommendation:
If the end result you're looking for is ICS OTA, rooted, S-OFF, then I recommend you follow these guides, in the following order:
1: Scotty's noob-friendly guide to root Rezound:
http://androidforums.com/rezound-al...ys-noob-friendly-root-guide-start-finish.html
One thing to note: Scotty gives instructions both for temporary and permanent flashing of custom recovery. In your case, I would recommend doing the temporary flash. This will allow you to flash superSU (achieve root) - which you need to do in order to achieve S-OFF - but it will also save you the hassle of later having to flash the stock recovery back - which you need to have in order to install the OTA.
2: My guide to achieve S-OFF:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_kRxD5LtazP7vEnr9cDb3iHwWB1ZfJD_yn6xXo7d1bo/edit
3: My guide to install the OTA after rooting and S-OFF:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tmlh4OnplVfBNSjSyXfTYIVGfyb9lgI6ABpfg7gHY44/edit
If you flashed a temporary recovery, then you can skip to step 7 in this guide to verify that you have stock recovery on your device. If you do, then you should be able to initiate the OTA from within Gingerbread, and successfully install. In other words: If you flashed a temporary recovery, you can follow steps 7 to the end in this guide.
These three guides together, in the order that I listed them, are the exact steps I followed to achieve the same thing that you say you're shooting for: official ICS, rooted, S-OFF. I think these steps are the least risky steps you can take to achieve these things.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
bloodymurderlive said:
dashbored
Unlock after S-OFF?
My bootloader was locked after I installed the OTA update. What I discovered was that I was unable to flash any custom recoveries (AR Recovery 3.15). Even though I was S-OFF, I still needed to unlock before it would let me flash a recovery.
What I think some people do after achieving S-OFF is install a custom bootloader, and this is why they're able to install custom recoveries without having to unlock again. This is risky. As I understand it, nothing can run on your Rezound if your bootloader has a problem. So if you happen to install a corrupt bootloader, you could brick your Rezound.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
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FYI: AFter you s-off you can not use fastboot flash commands unless you install the JB Hboot at the end of the S-off process (it should offer you the option) That is the custom hboot you refer to. All flashers are encouraged to check MD5 sum of the files they download before flashing (primarily RUU, hboot/radios..not so much roms). This will guard against corrupted files, making the process less risky.
If you have the ph98img.zip file version of amonra, it will flash just fine in the stock hboot. Hboot picks it up when it scans for ph98img.zip files and you select yes to install.
Personally, I've kept the stock hboot because there are ph98img.zip files of anything I've needed to flash so I don't have a need to be using a lot of fastboot commands.
topgun1953 said:
Personally, I've kept the stock hboot because there are ph98img.zip files of anything I've needed to flash so I don't have a need to be using a lot of fastboot commands.
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Exactly... I prefer that my Rezound is self-sufficient, without needing a PC to mess with it.
Good note on fast boot!
stock or rooted
Dashboard:
Juopunutbear instructions require a rooted rom.
So if you wanna go S-0ff, you CAN use a stock rom, but it must
be rooted (SU and Busybox) for the S-0ff process to work.
michaelbsheldon said:
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
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I am new to this and need help when performing a wipe with amon ra there are a lot of options in recovery for the wipe, and I am not sure which option to do. Can you help.
Thanks
flspanky said:
I am new to this and need help when performing a wipe with amon ra there are a lot of options in recovery for the wipe, and I am not sure which option to do. Can you help.
Thanks
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What are you trying to accomplish? Root? In that case, I believe you need to use amon ra to Wipe cache, then Wipe dalvik cache. Then.com use it to flash superSU.
bloodymurderlive said:
dashbored... The thing you need to understand is that everyone has their own way of doing things. You need to either (a) study everything everyone says until you understand everything well enough to create your own process, or (b) follow somebody else's process. I will provide you with one below.
In regards to the latest comments...
Keep us posted on how it goes!
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Wow thank you for that informative reply! That really cleared up all of my questions. I now have two new, minor questions.
1. The audio clip for the S-off wire trick has two distinct tones. From watching the video, it looks like the different tones don't matter. Basically just hit tap and release as the metronome hits the first beat, and then again on the second beat. Correct?
2. This is probably a silly question, but what are the advantages of Amon Ra recovery over the stock?
I am too tired tonight, but I think I am going to give this a go this weekend...
michaelbsheldon said:
Dashboard:
Juopunutbear instructions require a rooted rom.
So if you wanna go S-0ff, you CAN use a stock rom, but it must
be rooted (SU and Busybox) for the S-0ff process to work.
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Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
bloodymurderlive said:
What are you trying to accomplish? Root? In that case, I believe you need to use amon ra to Wipe cache, then Wipe dalvik cache. Then.com use it to flash superSU.
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Thanks. I was installing the ICS Global root and ROM and the instructions said to wipe all, and I was not sure how many areas under the wiping options I should perform.
Quick update - I've rooted my Rezound. Have not done the S-off wire trick yet. Still on stock GB.
Question - none of the wifi tether app seems to be working! Open garden was working perfectly for me with my old rooted Thunderbolt. A quick search seems to show that Rezound has issues with wifi tethering?! This was one of the main motivations behind rooting, so I am a feeling a bit underwhelmed right now with my new Rezound...
Newest wifi tether works fine...even has Rezound settings. Since you are still on GB search for sirgatez mod. Worked great for me when I was still on GB.
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I've got an HTC Rezound, rooted with TWRP recovery. I keep getting pestered with OTA update "ADR6425LVW_3.14.605.13-3.14.605.12", some posts say this has to do with the FCC / HTC settlement that requires HTC to patch security holes.
So - I'm not exactly sure what my options are.
1) Can I just update past the OTA notification version from TWRP so I both have the updates, and I'm no longer bothered?
2) Is this update recommended, and can it be rerooted afterward?
3) How do I take it? The closest question I could find is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165791 for a Sprint Note 2, and it mentions an "ma7 rom", is there some equivalent for the Rezound? What are the steps that I would do to allow the update, or can I install it from TWRP / ADB?
~Ehryk
Ehryk said:
I've got an HTC Rezound, rooted with TWRP recovery. I keep getting pestered with OTA update "ADR6425LVW_3.14.605.13-3.14.605.12", some posts say this has to do with the FCC / HTC settlement that requires HTC to patch security holes.
So - I'm not exactly sure what my options are.
1) Can I just update past the OTA notification version from TWRP so I both have the updates, and I'm no longer bothered?
2) Is this update recommended, and can it be rerooted afterward?
3) How do I take it? The closest question I could find is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165791 for a Sprint Note 2, and it mentions an "ma7 rom", is there some equivalent for the Rezound? What are the steps that I would do to allow the update, or can I install it from TWRP / ADB?
~Ehryk
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If you are rooted on a recovery provided here, then the update will not load. Accept it and delete it or deny it. Does not matter. Pushes from OEM will not take on custom recovery.
dragonstalker said:
If you are rooted on a recovery provided here, then the update will not load. Accept it and delete it or deny it. Does not matter. Pushes from OEM will not take on custom recovery.
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I cannot reject it, it has been speculated that this is because of the FCC/HTC settlement. I can defer it for up to 5 days, then it keeps rebooting into TWRP, failing, and waiting, until I defer it again.
What would you recommend I do?
1) Install CM10.1
2) Install the 4.03.605.2 Leak
3) Return to stock recovery somehow and take the update?
4) ???
Get
T ota blocker duhh like common sense pun Inteted
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don728871 said:
Get
T ota blocker duhh like common sense pun Inteted
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No - I WANT it updated, either by taking the OTA or updating it manually. Which is easier?
~Ehryk
Not sure if it helps but I was stock + root +amon ra, and the OTA update installed just fine. I did lose root however
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I'm confused as to what to do??
I'm on a custom ICS rom "OTA ICS plus" with the S-Off custom hboot and AmonRa 3.15
Amon Ra doesn't process the update and it repeatedly fails.
After rebooting, I'm back in normal mode.
Are there parts to extract (like radios and are they compatible
with the special hboot that is provided by the s-off process?)?
I tried unzipping the OTA file but WinRAR says its corrupted.
Ehryk said:
No - I WANT it updated, either by taking the OTA or updating it manually. Which is easier?
~Ehryk
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If you want the update then relocate and run the RUU for your stock rom. If you run the global RUU (aka the .2) then you will be stuck on that. Can't downgrade to a lower number without s-off. I'm sure the original (.12) stock RUU is on here somewhere. Once you run that, you will be able to take the update. Then unlock again and reroot. I use Amon ra so can't comment about twrp
Ehryk said:
No - I WANT it updated, either by taking the OTA or updating it manually. Which is easier?
~Ehryk
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318sugarhill said:
If you want the update then relocate and run the RUU for your stock rom. If you run the global RUU (aka the .2) then you will be stuck on that. Can't downgrade to a lower number without s-off. I'm sure the original (.12) stock RUU is on here somewhere. Once you run that, you will be able to take the update. Then unlock again and reroot. I use Amon ra so can't comment about twrp
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Here's the link to the latest official OTA RUU:
http://androidfiles.org/ruu/?dir=Vigor
As sugarhill said, you can run that and then take the OTA up to .13 then if you like, reflash Amon Ra, superSU, busybox and custom ROM.
Same issue
Ehryk said:
I've got an HTC Rezound, rooted with TWRP recovery. I keep getting pestered with OTA update "ADR6425LVW_3.14.605.13-3.14.605.12", some posts say this has to do with the FCC / HTC settlement that requires HTC to patch security holes.
Hi, this is actually my first post on here, so I have the same thing going on with my phone, and im not worried about updating it, for all im concerned it can stay the same b/c if it aint broke dont fix it. So I dont want the update. Someone had mentioned an OTA Blocker can you post what its called, i couldnt find it.
Or if theres a way to just turn off the firmware updates, cuz this one only defers for a few days. Just want it to stop bugging me!
Thanks
Mike
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Factory Data Reset?
My Rezound is rooted with stock ROM, and now back to stock recovery (had CWM Recovery before). I flashed the stock recovery back on, in attempt to receive the new OTA Update. Of course it failed, probably due to removing some bloat ware and some other minor changes to the ROM.
So many have said to download the stock RUU from http://androidfiles.org/ruu/?dir=Vigor, to get everything back to stock "like new condition".
But can't I just do a "factory data reset" option in the Storage settings, to achieve this, and then maybe unrooting (if needed)?
I wouldnt do reset from in the ROM if your going to reset. why don't you just flash the ruu and take the ota? it will break root for you btw
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Thanks for your reply. I'll go ahead and run the RUU. I was just curious if the factory reset would have worked. But in your opinion what would happen if I select the factory data reset option?
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I honestly have no clue. But if your going to reset than just flash an ruu to be on the safe side and save time/anymore problems or trouble shooting. All and all just quicker and less possibal problems to deal with but that's my opinion but if you wanna do what you want than go ahead, I'm just adding in my 2 cents.
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RelicXII said:
Thanks for your reply. I'll go ahead and run the RUU. I was just curious if the factory reset would have worked. But in your opinion what would happen if I select the factory data reset option?
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To receive the OTA update the phone needs to be 100% stock. ie locked hboot, s-on with stock recovery. you will also need to be on the non leaked global RUU firmware.
as far as we can tell, the update brought nothing new to the table, if it had it would be all over the rezound forums. if your phone is working fine and set up the way you like it, you should have no need to do the OTA. But if you would like to do it anyways, by all means go ahead. if you need help feel free to PM me or reply to this thread and i will be willing to help.
There's newer radios and I read a few small things but nothing new. Just improvements
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Thank you so much guys for your input. I won't bother updating then. If it its not broke why fix it right.
I'll figure out how to suppress the persistant OTA.
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OTA
Reading this:
droidforums.net/forum/htc-rezound-general-discussions/240389-weird-rezound-behavior.html#post2406637
has me worried about the update.
But I have a rooted Rezound on 4.0.3 and clockwork recovery. If I let it update, will it ruin root? Or will it just "not update" as other have said?
I can't get the phone to stop asking to update!
The update breaks root. But you can just re root it. If you can just hold off on updating and look into s-off because a dev named snuzzo posted in one of these ota threads about ripping out the new radios from the ota and making a patch with them. But you have to be s-off to use the patch and I don't know when he's releasing it but it seems to be almost finished but I could be wrong.
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My homescreen is hijacked. I cannot get it to use any home launcher except the default. If I download the update it seems to let me use another launcher, but then it will keep nagging to install. So I nandroided back to before downloading the update.
I'm worried that if I disable the notifications now, I'll never get my other homescreen back!
Should I download the update and THEN disable the notifications?