I have searched a lot over google etc. about knowing if the smartphones with HDMI output capability actually outputs 720p or 1080p on HDTV or it is just that the screen resolution is upscaled to HD..
I can understand that all HD games are high in graphics but they are not actually 720p resolution certainly..but i am talking about HD movies which are of 1280*720 resolution which plays on my xperia neo v like a true HD video with high density of my screen with bravia engine enabled it looks awesome on my mobile..
But my query is when I connect it to HDTV by HDMI cable provided with xperia neo V...the same HD (1280*720) does not seems to be like HD..So is it that it outputs the mobile screen resolution by upscaling even in the case of HD files ?
Is that just happens with xperia neo v or all the android smartphones with HDMI output capabilities just upscales the resolution?
Please make it clear with few links possible as well as help on how to make the HDMI output for HD videos look as good as possible..(specially on my xperia neo v)
Thank you..
Its with everyphone coz HD output needs HD input too...
If input is 800x480, then it wud be upscaled to 720 or 1080p, though the videos will be in original(non-upscaled) resolution..
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nexus2515 said:
Its with everyphone coz HD output needs HD input too...
If input is 800x480, then it wud be upscaled to 720 or 1080p, though the videos will be in original(non-upscaled) resolution..
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Thanks for the help so that means if I play 720p HD movies then it ISS actually thhe complete resolution right? And not the upscaled screen resolution..I can understand for non hd videos games etc..but the one which is HD is actually displayed in HD only right?
hello. I am facing an issue trying to play 3D mkv files with 3D subtitles over 1080p HDMI on a ainol novo 8 advanced.
imgur . com / RBCI4 - see it here
This image I took from a youtube video, but this is what happens with my tablet with hdmi out 1080p
The video player interface still at 1280x768 but the video is at its original 1080p
With hardware decoding running
I dont know if this is related to all android tablets/phones or just some kind
My challenge is to play mkv 3d with 3d subtitles. But this can only be done if the player interface, thus the subtitle position, is also full screen.
If this is a all android issue, so I will have to give up
Its hard enough find a player that plays 3d subtitles (mv player does, with .idx type embedded at the mkv file)
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Hi everyone, is it possible to play 720p (1280×720) movie on X10 smoothly? If so then which program did you guys use to convert and which encode did you use? Because I did try both .mkv and MP4 H.264 encoded and it seems to be lag or super slo-mo alike. Really appreciate with any help from you.
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Ya u could download the apk file called rockplayer.apk and install it and throw any file in your memory card and this app will play it smoothly
I did use Rockplayer to play but the result was somewhat unsatisfied. I got lag and slow motion video play
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You could try yxplayer, but that's probably going to do the same thing...
So noone suffers the same prob as me? Everyone can play HD video smoothly. Can I ask which codec did you use? I used MP4 H.264 one
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I have the same prob.
Lag on rock player playing 720.
Just like lag in phone overall
Can I ask why you need HD playback on a none HD display? You would not see any difference from a 720p file to a 854X480 file regardless.
The Ironman file I encoded to the proper size plays perfect and I cannot tell the difference from source (720p). Encoded MP4 H.264 with Videora.
I just tried, and in mp4 format, it lags significantly (like it plays between 7-19 fps), but I converted the same file to DivX, picture and sound quality looked exactly the same and it plays perfectly fine at full frame rate.
Well, probably the 2.1 update will bring something to play HD video, since the X10 will be able to record HD video. At lest it is logical.but who knows, maybe we ll record on our X10 the video and watch it on a hd tv. i hope i am wrong.
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Well, probably the 2.1 update will bring something to play HD video, since the X10 will be able to record HD video. At lest it is logical.but who knows, maybe we ll record on our X10 the video and watch it on a hd tv. i hope i am wrong.
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Yeah. Hopefully you are wrong. That would be stupidity redefined.
Coming back to the playback issue. It's the same thing here. I got the best performance with rock player, which managed to play a couple of hd files.but mostly even rock player is too laggy.
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Thank you very much guys, at least now I know I'm not the only one who suffer. Maybe I will try different codec like DivX for example
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Can I ask why you need HD playback on a none HD display? You would not see any difference from a 720p file to a 854X480 file regardless.
The Ironman file I encoded to the proper size plays perfect and I cannot tell the difference from source (720p). Encoded MP4 H.264 with Videora.
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My thoughts exactly. Unless we're able to output and watch these files on our HDTV's, whats the point of needing to watch a 720p file on a 854x480 screen that isn't HD? Makes no sense to me...but to each their own.
I recall reading the update info on SE blogs that we will apart from HDrecording also get wireless video out, i'm guessing we'll need to buy some reciever for our tv's for it to work.
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I recorded a 720p movie using my sony camera and it plays fine on my x10 using double twist
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Personally I want to be able to play 720p video on my phone because that's what format the majority of my video is and I'd like to be able to play it without transcoding
That said, If I remember correctly the snapdragon has a hardware video decoder capable of playing 1080p @ 30 fps so it is probably a 1.6 related issue.
hi mate i just got the phone today its amazing for i have a question whats XDA App that u use for transfer the file i guese??
My guess is that these video players do not have access to the GPU for hardware acceleration, which would mean the CPU would have to do all the hard work (don't forget, playing HD video IS hard work for any mobile device). Whether that would be an Android 1.6 restriction, I don't know.
anybody looked at the bitrates of these videos?
a bitrate of 8,000 in comparison to a bitrate of let's say 1,000 would make a bit difference... am I wrong?
Also, if you are using the stock CLASS 2 memory card, then playing high bit-rate files will be problematic.
I know that you guys don't want to transcode, but 720p really kills battery.
I haven't tried on my new 16GB class 2 card, but with the 8GB that came with the phone I got smooth playback with 720HD with these settings:
MP4:
ffmpeg
1500kbps for video
48channels or whatever it is
160kbps sound
1280x720 pixels
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I've seen some nice videos on Youtube from Sony Ericsson promoters displaying Xperia Neo devices HDMI-wired to large TVs and it looks good with photos and videos shot from the in-built camera. But I'd like to hear from your experience playing movies, not stuff you filmed on your camera.
Is it possible to watch HD movies from the SD card on the TV through the HDMI? Does the Neo plays most format to begin with? Does is play any decent format at all with subtitles? Has anyone tried this?
yeah you can watch 720p movies so you can also watch that through hdmi
I know I could watch 720p videos, what I don't know about is compatibility, performance, and if it takes special video playback software. The examples I've seen were with specially tailored mp4 videos. Some HD videos come in AVI or MKV... does anyone know if this would be a problem with the Xperia Neo?
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By the way, I didn't see a single video player installed on the Xperia Neo I tested on the store. I might have missed it. On the video examples I've seen they use the standard gallery app.
I played .avi video files using MoboPlayer. I think that using third party video players you can play .mkv too (did not test it)
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I played .avi video files using MoboPlayer. I think that using third party video players you can play .mkv too (did not test it)
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Cool! HD video? What about performance?
Also, anyone ever used subtitles?
I have the neo and just got my hdmi cable. Have yet to test this either so would like to know as well. Don't have a tv with hdmi yet though. So can't test myself.
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I'm gonna get the Neo soon (its only just come out in N.Z shops) I was able to get my hands on one today to feel the build quality and I like it..
I was wondering if the HDMI port also works for the normal phone screen.. What I'm really after is to be able to plug the phone into a hotel LCD screen to write e-mails browse the web etc with a BT keyboard... some phone only seem to be able to play videos and look at photos over the HDMI port.. how is the Neo??
Kiwi
You can do everything through HDMI even games
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Ah that's good to know.
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Yeah, I'm buying one and gonna see for myself. It's supposed to arrive in a week.
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You can do everything through HDMI even games
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Awesome! that's all I needed to know.. now to find a cheap Neo.. to replace my trusty but severely modified mini.. HD Video and Skype video calling here I come!!
Kiwi
hdmi cable works with video with not higher resolution than 720p (tested with diceplayer and mx video player soft decoding, hardware does not support divix or mkv)
with software decoding i tried to play Full HD 1080p and did it, but it wasn't smooth, and video and sound was not synchronized.
Tested on not modified Neo. I would be very pleased if someone tested the same on overclocked device and say if it helped.
Oh okay, will have to test this myself as well, wonder if overclocks do help or maybe it wasn't smooth because of the software?, or both... we need more testers of hdmi, speaking of which, my cable came the other day, but left it at home, which at the moment is close to 2 hours away so can't test it this weekend any-way.
My neo finally arrived and I took it for some serious video testing.
Anything going on the neo goes on the TV through HDMI, be it video or game or app, or anything. Now to video performance.
I tried several different resolutions and file formats:
- Apparently the native app will only run mp4 and 3gp.
- Using MX Video Player I got full compatibility with all file formats and subtitles I tried (with different encodings too).
- File formats I tried: avi (I think it was xvid), flv, mp4, wmv, mkv (it says x264 here), mpg.
- Resolutions I tried: several up to 720p (sorry, I don't have access to anything larger)
The thing ran all 720p mp4 videos flawlessly. Other formats, the best it could do was run a 540p flv very well. 720p videos of other formats ran choppy and slow.
I converted the 720p film (6000 kbps bitrate) I had here to a 720p mp4 (5000 kbps bitrate just to improve file size). It ran flawlessly. Now am converting my films to that size and format when I want to watch them on the tv.
I'm loving the phone, it's very snappy and does the job.
I tried some 1080p mp4 videos. They run choppy too. It'd be pointless though, since the HDMI output from the neo is 720p anyway.
So, apparently, anything above 720p is off-limits with the original firmware.
Youtube on Neo --> TV out via HDMI?
Can you open the youtube application on your phone, then watch it on your TV through HDMI from your Neo?
evilRafael said:
I've seen some nice videos on Youtube from Sony Ericsson promoters displaying Xperia Neo devices HDMI-wired to large TVs and it looks good with photos and videos shot from the in-built camera. But I'd like to hear from your experience playing movies, not stuff you filmed on your camera.
Is it possible to watch HD movies from the SD card on the TV through the HDMI? Does the Neo plays most format to begin with? Does is play any decent format at all with subtitles? Has anyone tried this?
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I watched Tron HD 720p though my mobile on tv with English subtitles and everything went well except my battery
And In .mkv format 4.5GB
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I watched Tron HD 720p though my mobile on tv with English subtitles and everything went well except my battery
And In .mkv format 4.5GB
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How much battery does go away during 2h 720p movie? Phone screen is off during play?
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Can you open the youtube application on your phone, then watch it on your TV through HDMI from your Neo?
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I'll try this at home, but my guess is that you can do this normally, as anything that goes on the phone (you can play 3D games and watch them on the TV for example).
The drawback is that the video quality of Youtube videos on the phone is not HD, even if you turn on the "HQ" button.
I charged at same time as using hdmi big mistake cooked phone won't do that again
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Hi, i was wondering if our optimus ones could support 720p videos, maybe on certain video players like moboplayer? i am feeling lazy to convert my blu ray videos :/
i think not..i've tried using mobo, mx, rock player.but no luck.it lags a lot.
I tried today itself... Tried with mobo, mx player and qq player....It lags like hell...
Mobo is better in all those but still its difficult to watch...
You need to convert video to a format supported by the hardware decoder and set resolution to max screen size (480x320): soft decoding is very laggy and audio gets out of sync.
On macosx i'm using handbrake to convert videos and the "iPhone & iPod touch" settings works perfectly.
Yes, but will lagg as people mentioned above,
Case closed
enryfox said:
You need to convert video to a format supported by the hardware decoder and set resolution to max screen size (480x320): soft decoding is very laggy and audio gets out of sync.
On macosx i'm using handbrake to convert videos and the "iPhone & iPod touch" settings works perfectly.
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480x320 is not the max. 640x480 works just fine
Hi,
I am owner of a Sony Xperia Tablet S with a docking station(using to connect to a TV through HDMI cabel). When I connect the tablet to my TV(Samsung 1080P) It is only recognized as 720P device. That's probably OK, but when I play 1080P movie It should change to 1080P video resolution but it doesn't happen. I tried to search for a HDMI output setting in the tablet but there is no such thing, I also tried several video players, even to play exact resolution size video - 1920x1080 no change... still only 720P. And to be honest 720P doesn't look very brilliant from this tablet. I hoped to use the tablet as some kind of "all round video player".
Is there any way that I can convince the tablet to play videos in 1080P/Full HD? Any idea how to resize HDMI output resolution?
I know that it is mirroring my device, but even though it should automatically resize when playing full HD movies. (Saw it on couple of videos, where it does really work. The TV shows 1080P videos and the devices screen stays black, I guess because of their lower resolution, but that's OK.)
I can't find anyone else with this problem, so I decided to come here where the professionals live.
My problem is that i'm 100% sure that this is an hd phone, as I've downloaded and played HD videos before, and the default background is HD. Whenever I run the youtube application, the maximum quality that i'm allowed to choose is 480p. Any help would be appreciated.
The resolution is qHD, youtube detects itself, so we cant have 720p on youtube.
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...My problem is that i'm 100% sure that this is an hd phone...
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Moto E 2015 has a 960x540 resolution screen. While the phone can handle playing higher-resolution video (I'm been able to play 1080p and 720p 10bit video in MX Player with no issues), the Youtube app limits to the resolution of your screen. Wish it at least gave the option for 720p, for the greater bitrate, but alas it's limited to 480p. Unofficial Youtube apps might give you all the resolution options, but I haven't tested out any to confirm.