[Q] Chainfire root & Rom Manager - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys
Is true that "Rom manager" has problems with CF-Root?
By the way, how can I get an insecure-kernel for XWKI4?
Thank you all for your help.

1) Yep. Do not use Rom Manager & CW together on SGS2. One or the other. Rom Manager has a tendency to break CW & cause bootloops. Some people will tell you they use both successfully, but it's just a matter of time. You'll have problems eventually.
2) CFRoot thread.

Thanks MistahBungle,
Your suggestion is to use CFroot and is there any application compatible and similar to the "Rom manager"? CWM is not very user-friendly...

You're welcome
Clockwork Manager app is normally installed when you flash a kernel that has CW Recovery. This performs many of the same functions as Rom Manager. Personally speaking, I always reboot into CWRecovery whenever I do a backup, restore or flash a rom/kernel, because I've never had any problems doing it this way. I don't think there's anything 'un user-friendly' about it at all. It's a case of rebooting, scrolling through & up/down a few screens & pressing a few buttons.
There are obviously ways to root your phone other than CFRoot which don't install CW, up to you if you want to use one of those. Zergrush & SuperOneClick are the two that immediately spring to mind. I can't advise you about those as I've never used either of them/know nothing about them.
Definitus said:
Thanks MistahBungle,
Your suggestion is to use CFroot and is there any application compatible and similar to the "Rom manager"? CWM is not very user-friendly...
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[Q] CM7, Rom Manager, CWM - confused...

I am now loving CM7, running great with Glitch's kernel, and enjoying learning the nuances and differences in the phone now.
I am pleased that we can do nightlies and such via Rom Manager, but there is some confusion in my mind with regard to using Rom Manager to do much of anything right now.
It seems from all my reading and experimenting that we have very specific versions of CWM for use with our various kernels and roms. It is also clear that we are not to use the three finger salute to get into CWM - and I have not tried to do so due to being told not to - only get threre from ADB or the power menu (reboot>recovery)
But if I try to use Rom Manaver to even look around, it states that I need to have CWM installed to use the features. But as I understand it, I do have CWM installed, and Rom Manager is unaware of that fact...
So - my question (long way to get there, I know, sorry, I am long winded) is do we essentially have 2 CWM's on phone now? One that is accessed from the three finger salute and will not play with CM7, and another from the power menu or ADB that does play with CM7?
Is it safe to let Rom Manager install its own version and still have access to the 'correct' version for US (meaning Fascinate users, not all CM7 users...) to use in CM7?
I'm guessing this is like when people had to apply update.zip from stock recovery, but would love to clarify the confusion in my head - I can;t be the only thick skull-ed user out here wondering about this...
A question I now have as well since I just installed CM7. Rom Manager shows no clockwork mod recovery installed, then when prompted asks for either Captivate MTD, Vibrant MTD or Galaxy Si9000 mtd.
I only have the 3 finger recovery or ask it to reboot via Rom Manager. I miss the long press of the power button to give me all those choices I used to have.
M00NEY said:
I am now loving CM7, running great with Glitch's kernel, and enjoying learning the nuances and differences in the phone now.
I am pleased that we can do nightlies and such via Rom Manager, but there is some confusion in my mind with regard to using Rom Manager to do much of anything right now.
It seems from all my reading and experimenting that we have very specific versions of CWM for use with our various kernels and roms. It is also clear that we are not to use the three finger salute to get into CWM - and I have not tried to do so due to being told not to - only get threre from ADB or the power menu (reboot>recovery)
But if I try to use Rom Manaver to even look around, it states that I need to have CWM installed to use the features. But as I understand it, I do have CWM installed, and Rom Manager is unaware of that fact...
So - my question (long way to get there, I know, sorry, I am long winded) is do we essentially have 2 CWM's on phone now? One that is accessed from the three finger salute and will not play with CM7, and another from the power menu or ADB that does play with CM7?
Is it safe to let Rom Manager install its own version and still have access to the 'correct' version for US (meaning Fascinate users, not all CM7 users...) to use in CM7?
I'm guessing this is like when people had to apply update.zip from stock recovery, but would love to clarify the confusion in my head - I can;t be the only thick skull-ed user out here wondering about this...
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Rom manager is completely useless to us until nightlies start. You can use it to fix permissions but that's about it. Rom manager recognizes our kernel as the mtd kernel and the captivate, vibrant and galaxy s are the only mtd roms officially supported by RM. However, very soon, you will see fascinatemtd added to that list. Go ahead and use RM flash clockworkmod recovery. Even though you flash it in RM, it will use the recovery that you are already using.....so nothing to worry about.
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Thanks. Just learned from a user on another forum that hitting reboot in the power menu gives a submenu of recovery and reboot. So now I no longer have to depend on the 3 fingers. Looking forward to the ROM manager update to allow us nightlies.
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Go ahead and use RM flash clockworkmod recovery. Even though you flash it in RM, it will use the recovery that you are already using.....so nothing to worry about.
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Sincerely appreciate this explanation. You sir, impress me each and every day with your patience<>knowledge.
(I used the thanks button, but I wanna personally thank you kidserious!)

[Q] rom manager not recognizing fascinate

This is the first time I rooted my phone and I used step 6 on this link in your forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070 . Everything went fine but I then downloaded rom manager and when I select flash clockworkmod it only gives me the choice of choosing the samsung epic4g or the samsung galaxyS i9000. It does not give me the option of choosing the fascinate. I selected the i9000 but stopped there because I figured that I should try to fix this situation and be able to select the fascinate, before I move foward. Please help me move foward so I will be able to put a rom on my phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
lucash312 said:
This is the first time I rooted my phone and I used step 6 on this link in your forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070 . Everything went fine but I then downloaded rom manager and when I select flash clockworkmod it only gives me the choice of choosing the samsung epic4g or the samsung galaxyS i9000. It does not give me the option of choosing the fascinate. I selected the i9000 but stopped there because I figured that I should try to fix this situation and be able to select the fascinate, before I move foward. Please help me move foward so I will be able to put a rom on my phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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rom manager is useless for the fascinate...
I also ran into this issue. If your CWM is not "sticky" (it goes to System Recovery <3e> when you reboot recovery), you must flash the appropriate version of CWM with ODIN before a ROM flash. (CWM ALL.tar for bml roms [anything that is not cm7, MIUI, or ICS] or cwm4_fixed_for_cm7.tar for MTD ROM's [cm7, MIUI, or ICS])
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I also ran into this issue. If your CWM is not "sticky" (it goes to System Recovery <3e> when you reboot recovery), you must flash the appropriate version of CWM with ODIN before a ROM flash. (CWM ALL.tar for bml roms [anything that is not cm7, MIUI, or ICS] or cwm4_fixed_for_cm7.tar for MTD ROM's [cm7, MIUI, or ICS])
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if the op would of followed the guides instructions correctly, he would not of ran into that issue in the first place...
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rom manager is useless for the fascinate...
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But if that's the case, why does Koushik make a ROM for the fascinate and have it available on his site?
(Does the Epic4G simply represent all CDMA phones, and the i9000 GSM? Don't see why that would matter anyway tho)
(I can't post a direct &#% link yet, but it's on his website.
This makes absolutely no sense!? He's got ROMs up there for just about every Android phone on the market, all to be used with ROM Manager.
I wanted to install it via Odin but naturally that would be too simple: it's a zip file and Odin won't recognize anything but tar and 2 others formats.
You can flash any .zip ROM with CWM. There's no need for ROM Manager. BTW, you can post a link if you uncheck "parse links in text automatically."
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But if that's the case, why does Koushik make a ROM for the fascinate and have it available on his site?
(Does the Epic4G simply represent all CDMA phones, and the i9000 GSM? Don't see why that would matter anyway tho)
(I can't post a direct &#% link yet, but it's on his website.
This makes absolutely no sense!? He's got ROMs up there for just about every Android phone on the market, all to be used with ROM Manager.
I wanted to install it via Odin but naturally that would be too simple: it's a zip file and Odin won't recognize anything but tar and 2 others formats.
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all you need to do is boot into cwm recovery via the power menu and flash away. the problem with rom manager on the fascinate is getting into the right recovery...causes more problems than its worth on this device. make sense yet? probably not since you have not been down this road yet, but many of us have. so take the advice given or dont and learn the hard way.
Honestly, I am trying to take the advice given but not all of it fit my situation.
I'm definitely something of a noob to Android (Not to linux or IT though). I've had my phone for all of a month and rooted it only days ago.
It's all starting to come together, finally. It's tricky for a noob because there are so many different versions of the phone hardware, versions of Android, this or that kernel that only works with these ROMs, old/newer versions of those, old posts and advice, newer posts with adjusted advice.. etc.. It's been a week long crash course!
Anyhoo, I couldn't flash/upgrade CWM because it didn't stick from the original Odin install. When I rebooted, I'd always return to the stock <3e> recovery. Even after two more installs of CWM via Odin.
I used the cwm-recovery-all.tar in your guide, Droidstyle. (great job BTW)
I followed the directions in Section 6 to the letter. I even printed it out and highlighted key sections.
So you see, I was in a catch-22; I needed CWM to flash CWM? Odin was my only option at that point.
Then I read on another thread here about renaming the /system/recovery-from-boot.p script, and installing CWM once more.
That worked, so now I can finally boot into CWM recovery like a happy man. (I also tried a more specific version of CWM for good measure: cwm4-bml-i500.tar, not really sure if that made a difference)
So I made my first real nandroid backup last night.
Next on my list is a new kernel. Still deciding between KGB, lean, and whatever else is out there.
I still don't get the whole mess with ROM Manager though. I agree with you, DS, I just don't get why he'd have zips for every phone under the sun but his own app doesn't seem to allow them to be used. It's bizarre. The latest reviews on the market are not flattering either.
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It's tricky for a noob because there are so many different versions of the phone hardware
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You are on the Samsung Fascinate. If it is Verizon then it is model number i500. If it doesnt say Fascinate or i500 it isn't for your device and you don't need to worry about it. If you flash something that isn't stated as being for the i500 or VERIZON Fascinate then you will have a lovely new temporary paper weight.
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Anyhoo, I couldn't flash/upgrade CWM because it didn't stick from the original Odin install. When I rebooted, I'd always return to the stock <3e> recovery. Even after two more installs of CWM via Odin.
I used the cwm-recovery-all.tar in your guide, Droidstyle. (great job BTW)
I followed the directions in Section 6 to the letter. I even printed it out and highlighted key sections.
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You couldn't have followed it to the letter because it is a well known fact that if you boot up with a stock kernel still flashed it will replace your recovery. Droidstyle certainly knows this and certainly accounted for it in his guide. So, you need to either boot directly into CWM or flash a non-stock kernel prior to rebooting the phone.
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Then I read on another thread here about renaming the /system/recovery-from-boot.p script, and installing CWM once more.
That worked, so now I can finally boot into CWM recovery like a happy man. (I also tried a more specific version of CWM for good measure: cwm4-bml-i500.tar, not really sure if that made a difference)
So I made my first real nandroid backup last night.
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Yeah it sounds like that will work...not the most elegant way to take care of it...but it sounds like it would be okay.
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Next on my list is a new kernel. Still deciding between KGB, lean, and whatever else is out there.
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We already talked about the kernel situation. Consider Geewiz if you want something thats all-in-one and pretty much impossible to mess up. KGB is good. Leankernel always gave me the best battery life but YMMV.
Nymblz said:
I still don't get the whole mess with ROM Manager though. I agree with you, DS, I just don't get why he'd have zips for every phone under the sun but his own app doesn't seem to allow them to be used. It's bizarre. The latest reviews on the market are not flattering either.
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He showed no interest in helping the devs here get ROM manager working (again) on the phone. If you gave him money, blame him for not providing the support and resources to get it working on this phone. Some people are umm...."lacking in people skills."
Oh, and as great as the Gingerbread ROMs are...the mtd ICS roms blow them out of the water

just two little small questions about root :)

samsung s3 gt i9300 16gb 4.1.2 xxemb2
i am going to follow this guide to root (the basic one u can find in stickies things )
Step 1. Download Odin3.07 from HERE
Step 2. Power off your Galaxy S3. Then hold down Volume Down, Center Home, and Power buttons together until you see the warning screen.
Step 3. Hit Volume Up button to enter Download mode and connect a microUSB cable from your Galaxy S3 to your computer.
Step 4. Next, download GalaxyS3RootNew.zip, unzip the files and run odin3.07.exe by double-clicking on the file.
Step 5. When ODIN program opens, you should find a highlighted yellow box with a random COM number. If you don’t see this, download and install Samsung USB drivers below:
SAMSUNG_USB_Driver_for_Mobile_Phones.exe
Step 6. DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING ELSE, hit “PDA” button and select the file CF-Root-SGS3-v6.4.tar.
Step 7. Hit “Start” button. This will install ClockworkMod Recovery on your Galaxy S3 i9300. If you get stuck on this step, just try a different USB port.
Step 8. Once ODIN is done flashing, you will see “PASS!” in green highlighted box.
Step 9. Your Galaxy S3 will reboot once into CWM Recovery and automatically install root and Superuser app.
Step 10. Once your phone reboots, you will find an app called “SuperSU”, this is your superuser app.
Step 11. Download and install Titanium Backup app from Play Store to verify you have root, a Superuser request window should pop up.
my questions are : do i need an external memoory card to root ( i have 3GB free space left)
whats the difference bitween CF-root and CF-autoroot ??
THANKS IN ADVANCE
Hey.
No, you don't need any external card to use root. About 10 MB on your internal card should be fine .
CF-AutoRoot isn't same as CF-Root. If you're not going to change your rom/kernel/recovery/etc and you just want to have your stock rom rooted then CF-AutoRoot suits you best. However, if you want to change your rom/kernel/recovery/etc in future then it's highly advised to use CF-Root which basicly roots your phone and installs custom recovery CWM 5.5 afaik.
If you want to choose second option then I'd recommend flashing modern recovery, for example PhilZ Touch, TWRP or even CWM 6.0.3.0. In fact it won't root your phone but most of the "cooked" roms are already rooted so you just need to reflash rom later or use AutoRoot described above. You can also flash CF-Root and then custom recovery, basicly you don't even need any other recovery than CF-Root but it's highly recommended to do so.
can u please give me the advantages of custom roms in breef , why would i need them for ? all what im thinking about right now is Adblocker and such things ..
and can i use CF root without installing a ROM for the moment ?? thx a lot
and i didnt understand a word in this paragraph
"If you want to choose second option then I'd recommend flashing modern recovery, for example PhilZ Touch, TWRP or even CWM 6.0.3.0. In fact it won't root your phone but most of the "cooked" roms are already rooted so you just need to reflash rom later or use AutoRoot described above. You can also flash CF-Root and then custom recovery, basicly you don't even need any other recovery than CF-Root but it's highly recommended to do so."
what is PhilzTouch ???
By the sound of things I would just root for now for the adblocking and then start reading like mad and getting familiar with all the terminology and methodology before going any further.....this is the bit so many people miss and hence end up with a very expensive paper weight and a lot of disappointment and heartache
Basicly "cooked" roms have newest firmware versions, many tweaks, optimization and many things which full stock roms are missing. I'm not going to list all these things, check yourself if you wish.
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There are two ways to "flash" software to your device. Using USB cable and computer (via Odin) or directly from recovery. To do so directly from recovery you need custom (non-stock) recovery which gives you an option to do so. CF-AutoRoot gives you root while CF-Root gives you root + old CWM 5.5 recovery (because CF isn't supporting this method anymore). So basicly if you want to have a great time with your device, flash different roms etc. then you can directly flash modern recovery through odin f.e. PhilZ Touch Recovery without needing to use CF-Root.
All i want now is to have a rooted device on stock .. then i will take my time and read if i wanna add ROM/kernel
what do u think i should do
CF-AutoRoot. Best, easiest and nice solution for rooting full stock rom. You don't need anything else if you're not going to change roms/kernels or whatever.
Just a note that you may want to use the thanks button....it's kind of traditional courtesy when asking for help and receiving it
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JustArchi said:
CF-AutoRoot. Best, easiest and nice solution for rooting full stock rom. You don't need anything else if you're not going to change roms/kernels or whatever.
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Actually i would suggest the op also get a cuatom recovery into his phone.
Cuz if he f*** up his phone real bad and doesnt have a pc with him (cuz otherwise you would have to use odin to flash, or odin mobile from phone but if ure phone doesnt work, u cant) he can still fix things thru recovery.
Other things recoveries are for is making NANDROID BACKUPS. basically an almost total backup of your phone data: it backups rom, kernel , apps and their data, modem, system cache a bunch of technical stuff.
It doesnt backup other files of course (such as music on ur phone or videos or documents) just what is necessary to make the phone run with ur apps.
The reason this backup is important is because if you f*** up your phone real bad (again, phone can be tricky to hande) you can just flash it clean (you internal phone storage, such as music or any folder which doesnt concern rom, or microsd stuff, wont be touched when you choose "factory reset" in custom recovery)
And restore from a backup when your phone was working. Then u reboot and voila, a trip back into the past!
Might i suggest you also backup the efs folder which is found in the root directory. Nandroids DO NOT cover that. And basically for an s3, if you've got root and internal components are not damaged, if youve got the efs you can fix anything....if ya dont - not so much.
Might suggest once more that IF YOU DONT CARE about all this 'faster roms' kernels and mumbo jumbo root stuff, you still flash a recovery: the most stable one is CWM (clockworkmod recovery). To get it just boot into ur rooted phone, install free app from store "rom manager" and install latest version of recovery. you can boot into phone recovery at ANY GIVEN TIME, just follow instructions u can find on google, pressing buttons at same time and ****.
If ure curious, other recoveries exist:
Clockworkmod touch(premium):it's basically cwm just that it's touch. If you want my point of view...having touch on recovery is stupid and useless...recoveries are for fixin or doing important stuff, you dont wanna mess everything up cuz u touched the screen for mistake. Much better to use buttons and be sure.
Twrp...whatever cant remember da name: same thing as cwm touch, only .......i dunno but cwm is better.
Philz Touch(now this is the real ****!):not stable as cwm. It's a mod of cwm with MANY added cool features such as aroma file browser within the rom and look changing and of course touch( all toucb/double tap touch/touch only for scrolling) but the BEST option is BACKUP COMPRESSION. This little guy made me earn 1gb of free-er space out of my nandroid backups i perform onto my microsd. I went fron 3.5gigs to 2.5gigs. Awesome! Plus you can skip md5 checksum...which is a safety thing of course...but it slows down the backup/restore process, for the most daring disabling it spares them some waiting (nandroids are faster than kies from the pc anyways, no more than 20mins guaranteed!).
If ure interested about kernels i suggest:
Siyah kernel (or syiah...never know which)
Perseus kernel.
They both are good and fast, syiah is more performance, but you can get just the same performance on perseus if you handle the tweaking well and yiu get more battery time.
If youre interested about roms:
Foxhound (most complete one for the s3 i believe, it's packing all you need, and of course it's faster than stock samsung rom)
Rootbox(light rom. Its got less features but still fully packed for speed)
Omega (never tried it. Still have to...but it looks like in this rom look-costumization of look is the easiest thing to do. But i believe foxhound to be fully customizable as well...)
others are also
Jellybam
ResurrectionRemix
Hope i helped you get some root **** together
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I totally agree with your point of view but I've been using PhilZ Touch for about a few months now, flashing stuff, making backups and having fun about 1 time per day. Don't call this masterpiece "unstable" because it's based on latest CWM and without any "unstable" thing . I haven't got any problem with that recovery since 4.01 or so.
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I totally agree with your point of view but I've been using PhilZ Touch for about a few months now, flashing stuff, making backups and having fun about 1 time per day. Don't call this masterpiece "unstable" because it's based on latest CWM and without any "unstable" thing . I haven't got any problem with that recovery since 4.01 or so.
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Totally agree, never had a problem with it
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JustArchi said:
I totally agree with your point of view but I've been using PhilZ Touch for about a few months now, flashing stuff, making backups and having fun about 1 time per day. Don't call this masterpiece "unstable" because it's based on latest CWM and without any "unstable" thing . I haven't got any problem with that recovery since 4.01 or so.
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Impossible, much less than a month ago there was a versione of the recovery (4.8.8.1 i think) in which it did not save any of the recovery settings i had changed, cuz when i rebooted into recovery for backup/restore stuff i had to keep reenabling some features (like max compression, save to excard ecc ecc). Then there was an update (and they changed selection menu to [x] kinda like thing, if u boot into it now u see md5 checksum if enabled has an x) and the recovery rememberes all settings now (all interface tweaks amd stuff).
that's what i meant for unstable, also cuz rom manager doesnt recognize updated version of clockwork...but thats another story.
Thou i do think philz is a masterpiece, but its missing some stuff...for example aroma file manager needs to be included into the recovery already, also it needs its own updating app, also aroma file manager is a bit too low on features for me. like...if im gonna move some pixtures from a folder i wanna see them first...and if my rom isnt working i cant do that with aroma..
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Thanks a lottr guyysss especially u killbubble u really helped me im gona ask u for one more favor
U said install rom manager on ur rooted phone and install CWM (so i guess i should root with CF root rightt???)
And if i chose Philz how can i really get it on my phone ?? Will i find it in Rom manager also??
Thanks in advancee!
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Impossible, much less than a month ago there was a versione of the recovery (4.8.8.1 i think) in which it did not save any of the recovery settings i had changed, cuz when i rebooted into recovery for backup/restore stuff i had to keep reenabling some features (like max compression, save to excard ecc ecc). Then there was an update (and they changed selection menu to [x] kinda like thing, if u boot into it now u see md5 checksum if enabled has an x) and the recovery rememberes all settings now (all interface tweaks amd stuff).
that's what i meant for unstable, also cuz rom manager doesnt recognize updated version of clockwork...but thats another story.
Thou i do think philz is a masterpiece, but its missing some stuff...for example aroma file manager needs to be included into the recovery already, also it needs its own updating app, also aroma file manager is a bit too low on features for me. like...if im gonna move some pixtures from a folder i wanna see them first...and if my rom isnt working i cant do that with aroma..
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4.89.4 (14.03.2013)
- New Custom Install Zip mode: set a default folder to start with + browse backward up to the root
4.88.5
- toggle menus are now formatted to device screen width (right align menu option)
- add 30mn timezone offset
- merge CM 10.1 commit: Fix segfault with dead symlinks in char** gather_files()
- add extra check for carriage return for get_rom_name function: ensures windobe noobs do not get stuck
4.88.2
- fix: ors backup could overwrite an existing folder and end up with mixed old/new backup images
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Impossible, Phil would include it in his changelog . Also I know what you're talking about, it happens when there isn't a folder clockworkmod on /sdcard , sometimes you need to create it manualy but how often do you format /sdcard anyway? Recovery restores it after reboot anyway.
Also autoupdate from one point of view is a nice feature, I totally agree with that but on the other hand it would require many more things included in the recovery because itself it doesn't support many options, that's why it's called recovery, not a software . Personally I prefer having an option to choose, newer version isn't always better, usually yes, but not always . Also recovery just need to "work", flash roms, make backups and eventually some simple other tasks. I don't need anything else .
Just archi can u help me with My question please?? thank u so much
georgeskhater said:
Just archi can u help me with My question please?? thank u so much
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Root using auto root, then use mobile Odin to flash recovery.img
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Root with cf root then just flash Phil's with the cwm recovery that comes with cf root
georgeskhater said:
Thanks a lottr guyysss especially u killbubble u really helped me im gona ask u for one more favor
U said install rom manager on ur rooted phone and install CWM (so i guess i should root with CF root rightt???)
And if i chose Philz how can i really get it on my phone ?? Will i find it in Rom manager also??
Thanks in advancee!
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Doesnt really matter how u root as pong as u do. Once u do run rom manager and update clockworkmod (cuz if u rooted the otherway cwm is probab uoutdated).
If u chose philz just google philz and find the thread (gonna be first on google, if not google philz recovery)
Read the thread well and find i9300 version (best if u choose .zip version flashable with cwm, if not u gotta use tar.gz flashable thru odin) then put it on phone and in recovery flash dat pakage. Then reboot recovery and make sure u configure philz to your liking.
no philz is not included in rom manager.
Rom manager is a weird name, since it's only of use to update to the latest version of cwm, or install it if you still have stock. Thou it does have a list where u can download roms...i dont recommend it cuz it suks..much better for this is goo manager.
But i prefer googling the rom or recovery (if cwm, i would use the app of course) or whatever and downloaing it from source, much safer and has full instructions (needed for some stuff, for example if a rom needs latest gapps cuz not included, apps like rom manager would not tell ya).
Glad to help, if u wanna thank just hit the :thumbup: button...
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Yeah, I don't recommend tools like Rom Manager as well. It's not bad of course but some kind of useless, in my honest opinion at least.
P.S. Like I said if you're going to change rom then you don't need ANY CF-Root, just flash PhilZ (or clean CWM) through odin then flash any pre-rooted rom. CF-Root isn't required here, only if you're not going to change rom, then use cf-autoroot.

[Q] CWM with no custom kernel?

hey, is there any cwm recovery alone?
no custom kernel even philz kernel?
because the stock is way much better than philz kernel, and rom manager is installing the recovery but when i go throgh recovery mode, i see the stock one!
any help?
A few things:-
1) Don't use Rom Manager with the SGS2. At all. Ever.
2) Yes, you can install CWM independently of kernel. however, it will only be temporary/persist only until the next reboot, which is why you see it disappear. Just make life easy for yourself & pick a custom kernel that has CWM baked into it.
3) Don't use Rom Manager with the SGS2. At all. Ever. Rom Manager has a nasty habit of breaking CWRecovery with the SGS2 and/or causing bootloops. You might use it just fine for a little while, but before long, one or both of these things will happen to you if you continue to use it, and funnily enough (perversely even given how simple it is to do backups with CWRecovery), it seems to happen to people who don't have backups. Which creates obvious hassles for you if you have to start from scratch.
well thanks, so i have to stick with a custom kernel -_-
actually i didn't see any problem, but thanks for the advice!

Removing TWRP Recovery

New to this - I really apologize if this has been covered before but I've been searching all evening and not coming up with a definitive answer.
What's the easiest way to remove a custom recovery (like twrp) and go back to stock? Still on the stock rom, just have custom recovery. I manually deleted a nandroid backup using a file manager from my sd card yesterday, and now when booting into recovery it sits on the twrp screen for easily 10-15 minutes. I can't fathom why that would have an effect on the start up time but that's all I can think of that changed. I've tried re-installing twrp via goomanager - no change.
Is there a way to do so without using usb? I'm curious because the first S4 I had, the usb port went bad after only a month and I was in a panic that I wouldn't be able to get it back to stock (until I finally got it to work long enough to flash it with odin). Really don't want to risk that happening again.
Looking to run some roms once I think I understand at least half of what I'm doing, but trying to be cautious. I'd like to keep twrp but I want to make sure it's working right by loading a clean install of it.
Thanks in advance.
A lot of users are experiencing the lag with TWRP version installed by Goo Manager - (TWRP 2.6.0).
The link below has a flashable zip to version 2.5.0.2, this version seems to be stable and doesn't lag at the TWRP screen for most people including myself.
I would try flashing this and I think it will solve your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45006486&postcount=289
gadget! said:
A lot of users are experiencing the lag with TWRP version installed by Goo Manager - (TWRP 2.6.0).
The link below has a flashable zip to version 2.5.0.2, this version seems to be stable and doesn't lag at the TWRP screen for most people including myself.
I would try flashing this and I think it will solve your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45006486&postcount=289
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Thank you. I'm a little stumped on what to do with the zip now that I have it though and all my searching for "loading recovery with goo manager" just shows the method to load the newer version. Or if you're supposed to load it via pc, what do you use? Odin doesn't like any of those file types.
Sorry if this is a dumb question. Probably just not searching for the right thing.
bretbretterson said:
Thank you. I'm a little stumped on what to do with the zip now that I have it though and all my searching for "loading recovery with goo manager" just shows the method to load the newer version. Or if you're supposed to load it via pc, what do you use? Odin doesn't like any of those file types.
Sorry if this is a dumb question. Probably just not searching for the right thing.
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You flash it via recovery. Put in your sdcard/internal boot to recovery amd use the install zip option. Navigate to where it is and flash away.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk. now Free
bretbretterson said:
Thank you. I'm a little stumped on what to do with the zip now that I have it though and all my searching for "loading recovery with goo manager" just shows the method to load the newer version. Or if you're supposed to load it via pc, what do you use? Odin doesn't like any of those file types.
Sorry if this is a dumb question. Probably just not searching for the right thing.
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Yes, it is a flashable zip, just flash it in the recovery you have now.
I found this post based on the OP's original question, "how to remove TWRP recovery".
I have been flashing rooted ROMs for a while now via ODIN, but am just now starting to foray into the realm of custom recoveries. Before I install TWRP though, I wanted to know how to remove it just in case something ever goes wrong. That is, I've been avoiding the use of a custom recovery so far because if something ever happened to my device, I could just flash the stock ROM, and having already used Triangle Away, Samsung will never be the wiser and would service my device, but with a custom recovery installed, they would be able to see I'm not running totally stock.
So, is there a way to completely return my device to 100% stock after installing TWRP? And if so, how would I go about doing that?
My device is a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8013, currently running a root injected stock ROM, 4.1.2
EDIT: I just noticed that this is in the S4 forum, which my N8013 obviously is not, but the answer to my question should be the same regardless, yes?
margentieri said:
I found this post based on the OP's original question, "how to remove TWRP recovery".
I have been flashing rooted ROMs for a while now via ODIN, but am just now starting to foray into the realm of custom recoveries. Before I install TWRP though, I wanted to know how to remove it just in case something ever goes wrong. That is, I've been avoiding the use of a custom recovery so far because if something ever happened to my device, I could just flash the stock ROM, and having already used Triangle Away, Samsung will never be the wiser and would service my device, but with a custom recovery installed, they would be able to see I'm not running totally stock.
So, is there a way to completely return my device to 100% stock after installing TWRP? And if so, how would I go about doing that?
My device is a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8013, currently running a root injected stock ROM, 4.1.2
EDIT: I just noticed that this is in the S4 forum, which my N8013 obviously is not, but the answer to my question should be the same regardless, yes?
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Answer would be device specific
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Thanks Gadget, Hex. TWRP 2.5.0.2 works great. But just for future reference, is the only way to revert to the stock recovery by flashing a stock device image via odin over usb? So if the USB port were to fail entirely, I would be SoL - correct?

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