apart from fulfilling the need to flash new roms... what are the advantages over a stable CM7 and CM9 as it now stands?
and!! apart from it being (just?) another new rom... what will the advantages of CM9 (stable) over CM7?
Well, there are several important advantages of running CM7 instead of stock. Most notable are huge improvements in speed and battery life. I use my Atrix fairly often, including an hour or so of GBA emulation as part of my daily routine (gba games at the gym = fun cardio workout).
On CM7, my battery generally lasts at least 24 hours despite games and other moderate usage. And when I use it lightly, I've actually gone a day, a night and another day on multiple occasions without charging. Note that this is while 3G is turned on and push notifications/update intervals are at default values.
And as I mentioned, speed. The speed improvement is huge.
CM9 (which I'm using now, Beta 0.1.0) improves speed even more, has about the same battery life and a hugely improved interface. The new gmail app is fantastic, and the stock browser is much better. There are really big updates all around the board. If you get CM9, make sure you get Joker's build with the 2D fix.
I've been on the Ba2TF build for quite some time now is the joker build as stable?
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I've been running jokers build daily for quite some time. It is still a tad glitchy, but all main components including the camera work. Most issues lay with the 2d, but he us doing an amazing job at popping out fixes quickly. Battery life, for me at least, blows any GB rom out of the water, which is why I'm not going back.
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barry_ said:
apart from fulfilling the need to flash new roms... what are the advantages over a stable CM7 and CM9 as it now stands?
and!! apart from it being (just?) another new rom... what will the advantages of CM9 (stable) over CM7?
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As I mentioned above the battery life seems night and day from CM7, under light use my battery will last 2 days on jokers build, 17 hrs was my best on CM7.
I also find it to be quite snappy for being in a very early beta stage, my cfbench score is beating my friends Amaze 4g overclocked to 1.7
Give it a try, its in my opinion the best rom our atrix has going for it.
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I'll be going over to CM9 as soon as the next version is released. I'm trying to wait as much as possible so I can get a stable version.
Jokersax CM9, Faux 1.0GHz 025 CM9 kernel with mild UV, ADW-EX, and 37P radio. Running smooth as a snail trail with great battery life!
Daily driver now.
ICS by Jokersax runs very smooth, I have Faux123 1gHZ cm9 running as well as nova launcher beta. I recommend Nova launcher over Stock launcher by Trebuchet. Battery lasts way longer than Gingerbread'blur roms.
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Hey guys,
I finally installed CM7 a few days a go (nightly #74), and I'm very pleased with it. The only downside, really, is the battery life. It's usable, but it drains at least 40% faster than Samsung-based ROMs.
Most of the power seems to be going to Cell Standby. I hear some of the custom kernels can improve things a lot.
Could those of you who have experimented with different kernels give me a good recommendation for a kernel and/or modem release which will work well? I just don't have time to spend hours digging through hundred-page forum posts these days...
Thanks in advance!
Glitch is good. Battery will be a bit better with a custom kernel but it still won't be as good as Froyo. Just the way it is.
What's your cell standby reading? Percentage of battery use? Also of android system and OS,?
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i recommend NEO 9 v5 it has great battery life and its really smooth it comes with led version and no-led
When I ran CM7 Nightlies a while back I always stayed on the Stock Kernel. I guess that since Kernels aren't updated "Nightly" like the Nightlies you shouldn't use other ones. Just my personal preference.
Stock kernel is more stable but other kernels give better battery an there much smoother
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This one is a little different though. I am on a MIUI ROM, and have been for many months. Next month the Galaxy II is coming out for t-mobile, and I will be upgrading. And that means my wife gets the vibrant. Which means this phone "just has to work". As much as I love MIUI and cyanogen, being at the tip of the spear means having to put up with some things that just don't work like they are supposed to. Like GPS and battery life to name two. Stock would be an option, but if I recall, stock sucked on battery life AND GPS, correct?
So, what is the best ROM nowadays for stability (including GPS) and battery life? It has been so long that I have had a froyo ROM on my phone that I really don't know who is at the top now.
Oh, and by "best ROM", I should have said "best ROM & kernel combination".
the Bionix ROMs are pretty stable for the most part (though they're not really supported on xda anymore). http://sourceforge.net/projects/bionix-v/files/
I suggest trying ZenDroid. It's one of the very few froyo roms still updated and supported. Has all the newest build.prop tweaks, gps works perfect for me, has great battery life, and it's as stable as they come.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079517
EDIT: Ah yes, forgot about the DMZ kernel. Thanks to Mdtolic below for bringing that up. I have to agree with him about the ZenDroid/DMZ kernel combo.
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I've been on MIUI for a week or so now, and GPS has worked perfectly on several trips around the area. In fact, it's working better than when I was using a Froyo ROM. Battery life is still good as long as you do a reasonable undervolt and use Titanium Backup to freeze useless battery hogging software (Gallery, replaced with Quickpic, Maps if you don't use navigation, etc)
Still, if you want rock solid stable with great battery life, try Toxic8 with KB5 modem and Bali X 1.2 kernel. Once you set everything up for her along with a theme she likes, you'll never have to tweak it again.
Be warned though. As far as smoothness is concerned, nothing compares to MIUI. At least in my experience.
Jcc's toxic roms are awesome. Everything works as it should and he has a new rom(deranged 9) cookin now!
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I have come to learn that "the best" ROM/Kernel combo for one phone, may not be the best combo for any other phone.
For me, ZenDroid is perfect. To get the best battery life I use the SuperDragonModz kernel. ZenDroid comes with Bali UC and I think that works great for most folks.
ZD has an AOSP theme too; in case your wife would prefer a "clean" Android look.
That Ultimate 2.2.1 rom is fairly awesome. It is smooth, fast and good looking. Works perfectly with the ffc mod. Has decent battery life and the GPS will connect in mere seconds (9 of 11 birds, 20 ft after about a minute or two). Keep in mind I did the hardware fix posted here. It is my top choice going back to froyo coming from a variety of gb roms.
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Project-V with Bali-X 1.2
By far the best 2.2 ROM I've used!
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That Ultimate 2.2.1 rom is fairly awesome. It is smooth, fast and good looking. Works perfectly with the ffc mod. Has decent battery life and the GPS will connect in mere seconds (9 of 11 birds, 20 ft after about a minute or two). Keep in mind I did the hardware fix posted here. It is my top choice going back to froyo coming from a variety of gb roms.
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Now I know this is largely an opinion based question but figured I'd get some good feedback. I am a former incredible owner and with the incredible I had MANY choices of ROMs that were all fast, great battery improvements and completely stable. I was a huge fan of CM7 on the incredible. I finally just rooted my Thunderbolt and am looking for the same. I just want a ROM that is stable, decent speed and with better battery life. So far I flashed a sense 3.5 ROM (InfectedROM) and it is has many bugs, little bit better battery and actually feels slower than stock. CM7 says it is still in beta so I have been reluctant to try it. Does anybody have any advice on the most solid ROM out there for the Thunderbolt? Thank you
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Now I know this is largely an opinion based question but figured I'd get some good feedback. I am a former incredible owner and with the incredible I had MANY choices of ROMs that were all fast, great battery improvements and completely stable. I was a huge fan of CM7 on the incredible. I finally just rooted my Thunderbolt and am looking for the same. I just want a ROM that is stable, decent speed and with better battery life. So far I flashed a sense 3.5 ROM (InfectedROM) and it is has many bugs, little bit better battery and actually feels slower than stock. CM7 says it is still in beta so I have been reluctant to try it. Does anybody have any advice on the most solid ROM out there for the Thunderbolt? Thank you
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Any BAMF ROM. They are almost completely bug free, smooth, and offer better battery life over stock. CM7, even though it's not officially supported yet, doesn't have too many bugs. The battery life, in my opinion, just doesn't match up to Sense ROMs.
One piece of advice I'll give you for better battery life. Don't overclock. It just isn't necessary. The phone is fast enough at 1GHz, and you won't see too much of a change overclocking, just worse battery life. (Benchmark scores are meaningless. They do not reflect every day performance)
What kind of mAh drain do you experience on bamf roms? I stay between 15-25 on CM7 with the screen off and peak between 150-350 with screen on. BT is always on, as well as GPS. (Never use wifi, so can't speak on that) Oh, and I just Juice defender, before JD I would average 35-40. Sync mail with imap every 15 and exchange on push. Underclocked with screen off to 360 and run 1024 with screen on. I don't OC unless I'm plugged in. Then its only 1209.
I'll also cast a vot for Team BAMF. I am on BAMF forever 1.10 and I flashed the devs beta 3++ kernel build after because I saw a bit of lag with the stock kernel. You absolutely need to remember to wipe before flashing the rom, though. I neglected to and the lockscreen didn't even work.
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I never dropped below 30% battery using bamf in months, I'm a huge fan. It took a lot for me to drain it down low.
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I vote BAMF SoaB. But I'm biased.
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Never had any problems with CM7 via protekk's builds. Run fast and smooth, and get great battery life. Plus it's clean so I don't have to worry about washing my hands after using it
Skyraider 1.3. Gives the best balance of htc sense functionality, battery life, customizations, and speed. I would stay away from sense 3.0 and 3.5 roms. They initially seem smooth; however in everyday use they will lag on you. The phone is just not designed for 3.0/3.5 sense. The 2.1/3.0 hybrid roms work well which is what the skyraider 1.3 rom is. If you don't like sense, then run CM 7.1.1 or Liquid Smooth 3.2. The non-sense roms will be a little faster, but I like the widgets that come with sense.
Update: Forgot MIUI rom. Very nice if you like the apple-esk look and feel. Very smooth.
BAMF forever 1.1
How do i find the BAMF forever 1.1 rom. When I use ROM mamanger I only see 1.0.5
Another vote for SkyRaider Zeus 1.3.
Near perfect for me.
Miui tons of customization very good batt life and very smooth
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BAMF roms are probably the most stable roms and I tried most of them already I even bricked my phone a couple of times trying all the roms and so far I'm sticking with this ROM called thunder stick 3d
I've tried Bamf Forever, SkyRaider, SoaB, MIUI and Gingeritis 3D.
My vote out of all 3 is Gingeritis! Battery life has been a ton better than the Bamf roms and MIUI I only liked on my Droid X. Wasn't a fan on my T'Bolt.
Liquid Gingerbread 3.2
Liquid's AOSP 3.2 is by far the best rom I've used, it's based on CM7, which is technically still a beta, but I think that's just because the official support on the CM website is slated for CM9, I have no issues with Liquid 3.2 and I tend to be picky about dealing with bugs, and battery life is good the way it comes, better than Sense based roms, and you can configure the kernel for batterysaver which makes it even better.
[ROM-STOCK-605.9] iKReaM.What.Thee.ROM.605.9-R3Ds this rom is legit but if someone could tell me what that clock is and how get it i would greatly appreciate it
I used CM7.1 most of the time but switch to a BAMF Sense 3.0 ROM on Thursday nights (and sometimes Sunday and Monday night) to watch NFL Mobile. They are both nice, but Sense 3.0 has some stupid issues, like lack of landscape mode, lower volume by default, dodgy Bluetooth support, etc, it's enough to make you want to get rid of it.
I have th3oryrom - ics
I vote for th3ory, i like that it is non htc sense. And this one is a ics look/feel rom. This is a link to dhacker29's rom (http://th3oryrom.com/ROMS/SHIFTAO5P_IC3.2.1.zip );and although it is 2.3.7 android it still seems like you're using ics. the only bug i have found is flash keeps crapping out. there's a thread i found (non t-bolt related) that i found where going to adjust (remove all) permissions fixes this but which folder i do not remember.
You won't get many votes for this b/c the developer isn't going to update it (at least i don't think) b/c they have moved on to another phone.
EDIT: i did a search for you if you're inclined to dnld this rom. in the Q&A bolt forum there is one i located that path on your phone you may need to find using root explorer to run flash. "/data/data/com.android.browser/app_plugins/com.adobe.flashplayer/.macromedia/Flash_Player/config.data" after this path go to permissions on this file and deselect all check marks.
Google Music
it is an awesome rom but since CLEAN flashing this rom, ive had issues streaming my music from google, it sucks, i read other people having this problem as well so i tried the various fixes i found and to no avail, its a deal breaker for me cuz i wanna listen to the music i paid for. im gonna try SHIFT AO5P n see if it produces some positive results, if not, im going back to INFECTEDROM. I WANT MY GOOGLE MUSICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC!!!
~DiazKyubi~
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Liquid's AOSP 3.2 is by far the best rom I've used, it's based on CM7, which is technically still a beta, but I think that's just because the official support on the CM website is slated for CM9, I have no issues with Liquid 3.2 and I tend to be picky about dealing with bugs, and battery life is good the way it comes, better than Sense based roms, and you can configure the kernel for batterysaver which makes it even better.
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I would post this in the Development section, but I dont have enough posts yet.
Does anyone use an Ice Cream Sandwich ROM that is stable enough to use as a daily driver? I looked through the list but they all seem to be lacking data connection, gps, or some other main function that I need.
Is anyone running one of the ICS Roms as a daily driver?
Scotts 3.7 is fantastic! Only thing not working is data arrows. Do it! You won't regret it.
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Cleanrom. Just switched over from gb about a week ago haven't had a problem yet and no way I would go back ics is sweet, mostly in gimmicky kinda ways(face unlock) but still improvement.
Joelz BAMF 1.0 is - been running it since Joel started development on it
The only ICS roms having data issues that I am aware of is the ones that are a true AOSP rom, such as CM9. To my knowledge all of the sense based ICS roms are working, with very few bugs, if any. I personally like Joelz desensed ICS rom. He should be updating in within the next couple days. I use it as my daily driver and have zero issues whatsoever.
id say go for clean rom and de-sense it if you want. the only thing keeping me away right now is all of the ugly green in the rom. once a blueish theme comes ill go for it. yes im anal about how my phone looks.
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The only ICS roms having data issues that I am aware of is the ones that are a true AOSP rom, such as CM9. To my knowledge all of the sense based ICS roms are working, with very few bugs, if any. I personally like Joelz desensed ICS rom. He should be updating in within the next couple days. I use it as my daily driver and have zero issues whatsoever.
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The link to the Joelz desensed ICS Rom is not reliable. Any mirror anywhere for it?
I have it in my dropbox account, here is a link. mods if this violates anything feel free to remove http://db.tt/SW1Yv5i9
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I have it in my dropbox account, here is a link. mods if this violates anything feel free to remove http://db.tt/SW1Yv5i9
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THANK YOU!!!!!! You sir are a rock star for that one!
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THANK YOU!!!!!! You sir are a rock star for that one!
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anytime man
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davidbudd1 said:
The only ICS roms having data issues that I am aware of is the ones that are a true AOSP rom, such as CM9. To my knowledge all of the sense based ICS roms are working, with very few bugs, if any. I personally like Joelz desensed ICS rom. He should be updating in within the next couple days. I use it as my daily driver and have zero issues whatsoever.
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Actually, I was really looking for a stock ics Rom as I'm coming from a nexus s and I had gotten use to loving it.
I'll give Scotts cleanrom with sense a try.
What does desensed mean? Get rid of all the sense skin completely?
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All of the ICS kernels stick at 384mhz or 1512mhz (or whatever max is) at all times, unless you apply the Conservative governor with a CPU control app (like SetCPU).
This causes
a) overheating (some report)
b) terrible battery drain (this is why ICS battery life typically is not as good as GB battery life)
c) great benchmark speed
Even with my extended battery, I'm not interested in this non-standard erratic performance and CPU clock speed situation.
When the kernel source is released, I hope that devs' work on ICS kernels is more stable than their work on GB kernels, too!
Anyway, the above explanation is why I will NOT be jumping to ICS again until a normally functioning kernel is available.
It's not worth it for facial unlock and Chome Beta. and...... yeah I have no idea what else ICS is good for!
Nils business sandwich, accept no substitutes. Always stable and clean, and issues are fixed quickly.
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Getting my rezound tomorrow fonding from the tbolt. I'm also interested in an ics rom needs GPS working and wireless tether.
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I do no not speak ill of other rom's but i highly recomend nil's p business ICS. It's smooth, stable , slightly themed and very well supported.
I have only tried Cleanrom ICS and NIL Business ICS. Both work good for me. Speaker phone works a little better on NILS. Tether, GPS navigation work on NILS. Didn't test GPS on CR but I assume it works. Tether works on CR. Battery is decent on both. They seem just a tad slower than gingerbread for me.
Apex launcher is nice for people that want a more AOSP like launcher.
Be careful of Mainversion if trying to switch back to a gingerbread rom from a ics rom though. If the Mainver is higher than a rom your are trying to switch too, you will have issues. There is a file here on the forums you can flash to set mainver lower before flashing a lower mainver rom I believe.
I'm using CleanRom 3.5. I don't have any notable issues. Tether works fine. Battery life is really good.
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All of the ICS kernels stick at 384mhz or 1512mhz (or whatever max is) at all times, unless you apply the Conservative governor with a CPU control app (like SetCPU).
This causes
a) overheating (some report)
b) terrible battery drain (this is why ICS battery life typically is not as good as GB battery life)
c) great benchmark speed
Even with my extended battery, I'm not interested in this non-standard erratic performance and CPU clock speed situation.
When the kernel source is released, I hope that devs' work on ICS kernels is more stable than their work on GB kernels, too!
Anyway, the above explanation is why I will NOT be jumping to ICS again until a normally functioning kernel is available.
It's not worth it for facial unlock and Chome Beta. and...... yeah I have no idea what else ICS is good for!
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I agree we need improved kernels. Well said!
pkopalek said:
All of the ICS kernels stick at 384mhz or 1512mhz (or whatever max is) at all times, unless you apply the Conservative governor with a CPU control app (like SetCPU).
This causes
a) overheating (some report)
b) terrible battery drain (this is why ICS battery life typically is not as good as GB battery life)
c) great benchmark speed
Even with my extended battery, I'm not interested in this non-standard erratic performance and CPU clock speed situation.
When the kernel source is released, I hope that devs' work on ICS kernels is more stable than their work on GB kernels, too!
Anyway, the above explanation is why I will NOT be jumping to ICS again until a normally functioning kernel is available.
It's not worth it for facial unlock and Chome Beta. and...... yeah I have no idea what else ICS is good for!
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Thank you for the great info regarding the stability of ICS roms. I'm currently scoping out the situation for my brother who has a rezound and want to put something stable on it for him.
This is a huge issue and like you I will recommend he remains on gingerbread until it is worked out.
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pkopalek said:
All of the ICS kernels stick at 384mhz or 1512mhz (or whatever max is) at all times, unless you apply the Conservative governor with a CPU control app (like SetCPU).
This causes
a) overheating (some report)
b) terrible battery drain (this is why ICS battery life typically is not as good as GB battery life)
c) great benchmark speed
Even with my extended battery, I'm not interested in this non-standard erratic performance and CPU clock speed situation.
When the kernel source is released, I hope that devs' work on ICS kernels is more stable than their work on GB kernels, too!
Anyway, the above explanation is why I will NOT be jumping to ICS again until a normally functioning kernel is available.
It's not worth it for facial unlock and Chome Beta. and...... yeah I have no idea what else ICS is good for!
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Is this confirmed info? I want to make sure.
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I ve tried jesters, bamf and almost all the ICS leaks. Currently on nusense everything is stable Gps, tethering, just the battery life is really bad on all. as good as when I had SHIFTSENSE.GB. I am willing to go back to gingerbread.
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Just recently flashed thundershed 1.6 with IMO kernel and have easily been getting 16+ hours with moderate use.
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From what I understand ICS builds are all the new drivers for the CPU/GPU. What this means is that the gingerbread ROMs would only allow the CPU to work during normal browsing and it would enable the GPU for games this is why we can undervolt the phone so much in gingerbread because it does not use the GPU and the CPU simultaneously. As you can imagine if you enable the CPU/GPU to work simultaneously it will then drain the battery much faster than before. All in all it is based on your usage however there is a big difference between gingerbread and ICS. I would only suggest using ICS if your phone is not your current phone. When I upgrade I plan to keep my phone for browsing only and I will be upgrading to an ICS build given everything works. Also if you want better battery life and you have not upgraded to the resound battery go get one online or at a Verizon store it fits perfectly in our phone and gives much more battery life