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Hi there.
I just had my SGS stolen and need to buy another phone. What I liked about the SGS was the ability to connect it to a tv with a simple jack -> RCA cable. I work at lot in places where the TVs does not have HDMI inputs etc. so RCA becomes very handy.
However, it seems to me that no never android phones have the jack to RCA options. Is it just me who can not find it, or are they there. I would appreciate it if it had at least 4" display and a decent processor.
Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.
Nobody has an answer or am i in wrong forum?
Are you sure you mean RCA?
I might be mistaken but I thought if anything the phones would use s-vid or HDMI as you say?
Yep, I mean RCA. It is a cable with a special jack in one end that goes into the normal audio out. In the other end are the RCA connectors as seen here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA_connector
The beauty is that one does not need fancy tvs with hdmi or s-vid, which most do not have in Africa where I travel... lucky if there is a tv in the room.
my old phone was a nokia 5800 i am curious to see if the CA-75U cable will work with my samsung galaxy W but am a bit dubious incase i kill it, that maybe the answer to what your after if it does work.
lingering said:
my old phone was a nokia 5800 i am curious to see if the CA-75U cable will work with my samsung galaxy W but am a bit dubious incase i kill it, that maybe the answer to what your after if it does work.
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I do not know about the Galaxy W, but I know it works with the Galaxy S (although I seem to remember that it dit not work for the US version) as I used it.
kind of a dying/nearly dead technology. With cutting edge tech (smartphones) they definitely wouldn't have something like that.
Well, it might dying on the phones, but as I started by stating: most if not all of the hotels I go to does not have hdmi, dlna, etc. So, for me there is a good reason to not go for the cutting edge technology....
This is a bit more of a TV aficionado question but also applies to our Rezound. I recently was given, as a gift, the MHL adaptor. Like any good new toy i hooked it up with various videos and began tinkering.
One of the things i did was downloaded (rented) a movie from HTC Watch. I wanted to see how good the quality was through the app and through the MHL. To my surprise it actually looks great however it seems as is there is black crush in the picture; almost like either the phone or the MHL adapter is sending the wrong color/picture signal.
For instance, if you have a PS3 you have in your options for color either RGM or Limited. Generally one is for the TV color space and the other is for computer monitor color space. If you use the wrong one of your TV typically you end up with DEEP blacks but you "crush" them and it darkens the picture too much and lose a lot of shadow detail.
The above "seems" to be happening using HTC Watch and the MHL adapter. Wanted to know if anyone else tried this out and are getting the same thing?
As a quick aside, i tested the "stock" HD videos that come with the rezound, a downloaded HD youtube video and also a 720p mpg through MX Video player of an episode of American Horror Story. None of the above videos experienced the "black crush" and all played smooth and properly with the exception of the AHS audio not being in sync on my TV but being in sync on my device; probably a decoding thing.
This makes me believe it could be a HTC "Watch" issue and not a MHL problem. BTW i am using the official HTC MHL adapter.
Thanks for any help with this.
try detethering the kernel to the locked frames
smokindank42o said:
try detethering the kernel to the locked frames
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Thanks for the response but I don't know what that means lol. Also I'm not rooted.
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Just got my MHL adapter.
I noticed that while videos run perfect, the screen is laggy, and emulators run like crap.
Is this due to the hardware or Sense?
Also, when the MHL is connected, it automatically goes to landscape, and the kickstand is unusable because the display doesn't auto-rotate.
Is there a way to modify that?
I find emulators impossible to use. Input lag is ridiculousness
Yea I noticed that too haha.
I hope this is just because of Sense because I mainly got the adapter so I can play using the TV and a couple of controllers. D:
i used my GS2 (epic touch) with an MHL combo with n64oid and the performance was practically flawless. It might have been the smoothness of an exynos cpu but still it sucks to hear its not so on our next gen chipset
Got a PNY MHL adapter for $10 shipped no issues what so ever. I was really worried after all the feedback but like Mc Donalds says I'm lovin it!
Maybe it's the 720p phone display that's causing the slowdown
Can anybody with a GNex comment?
Let me clarify, it's not slow fps. It's input lag. I can't play games like metroid fusion because it's too slow to pick up when I am trying to input through the PS3 controller. The phone's screen is PERFECTLY playable. It's the HDTV mirror that isn't. So, input lag. Only on through HDMI
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Let me clarify, it's not slow fps. It's input lag. I can't play games like metroid fusion because it's too slow to pick up when I am trying to input through the PS3 controller. The phone's screen is PERFECTLY playable. It's the HDTV mirror that isn't. So, input lag. Only on through HDMI
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yea that's what was happening to me. agh it's frustrating.
I posted these questions in AT/T forum but got no answer probs due to lack of consumers actually using the official adaptor, so would love to ask u guys here since im really aiming at using the cable for presentations etc (and spent 50 dollars on it);
1) How do i fix the borders cut off in landscape mode when connected to TV?? If u look at youtube videos every user regardless of TVs have the screen bit cut off even thou phone's resolution is 16:9 720p?
2) Why does it display in 1080p not 720p (screen on galaxy s3 is 720p)? (my laptop using same hdmi cable without adaptor shows as 720p on TV) id like to be able to adjust it
3) My galaxy s3 heats up to 55 Celsius when playing with the phone and mirroring games. Is this normal? (although my alienware laptop heats up same also when connected to TV)
4) There is a abit of a lag between TV and a phone, the phone also seems to lag more when connected to TV (my laptop doesnt experience this)
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Most TVs default mode is to cut off the borders, I find that odd with HDTV because it's digitial. With the analog TVs they would cut off a little border because the edges of the signal weren't always of the best quality, and it makes the picture look a little "bigger" too. On my Samsung TV there is a "P.Size" button (picture size I presume), and I push that until "screen fit" comes up, which shows the full image. On other TVs I've heard using the HDMI port labeled for PC/laptops will come by default setup to not cut the borders, if it's not labeled that way it's normally the port that shares or is right next to the DVI port.
I have the 1080p display issue with the horrible lag as you've seen. If you come across a solution let me know, because it drives me nuts and some games are basically unplayable which is one of the major reasons I got my MHL adapter. For videos and web it works well enough, since a video isn't interactive you don't notice the delay.
The heating up is probably normal, a phone a very dense compared to a PC and doesn't have fans like a PC has, and I bet the display cloning and charging takes up a bit of power.
Just got my new sammy tv with mhl support and more stuff, but have the same problem as you guys. Choppy playback at 1080p30, that really sucks. It shall be at 1080p60. I will give it a try with the other 2 hdmi slots, maybe it will work then. If not, I'm screwed and have to sell my hdmi-mhl-adaptor -.-'''
Really not cool and I cant explain it to myself, why it shouldnt work ((
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Just got my new sammy tv with mhl support and more stuff, but have the same problem as you guys. Choppy playback at 1080p30, that really sucks. It shall be at 1080p60. I will give it a try with the other 2 hdmi slots, maybe it will work then. If not, I'm screwed and have to sell my hdmi-mhl-adaptor -.-'''
Really not cool and I cant explain it to myself, why it shouldnt work ((
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It seems max output is 1080p30, yet the phone is really nice and smooth on a tv with 720p or 1080i, as it's 60hz. Really annoying that there aren't any settings for the HDMI output to simply select an output resolution!
Althought the thread title is quite straight, I would like to give up some info (can be used as "valuable experience" for someone else...) regarding MHL interface, wich has really dissapointed me.
I have installed AOKP Jelly Bean ROM (wich I think is the BEST ROM ever, due to its speed, and customizability), and bought an original MHL cable from Samsung, obviously SGh-i777 friendly.
When I plugged the phone to the TV AND to the wall charger, I sat down very enthusiastic in front of my LED screen to see what happens...
But after 4 o 5 hours of staring at the "No signal" sign, I started to think that something was not right.
After a quick check on XDA, I learnt that AOKP nor CM9 are MHL active, so I nearly panicked.... I was time for a ROM change.
Anyway, I contacted one of the AOKP developers asking if was any update on that particular issue, and told me that He wasn't working actively on AOKP for SII anymore, only doing some updates (my cell phone got heart broken...) because the best ROM ever had an Achilles heel.
Now Im using a very nice ROM called Aberration, wich is Touchwiz based (and MHL compatible), with a smooth operation and almost no crashes (only thing I miss is the extreme customizability, but whatever...).
And now, regarding the title, when I plug on the MHL, the TV shows the phone screen (the phone DOES NOT turns to landscape mode) in portrait, wich is look pretty good. But when you try to: play games, stream TV from internet OR watch downloades movies, the quality is veeeeery poor, compared to the laptop HDMI output port (strangely, setting the output in the PC to 720p looks better than 1080p...)
The TV doesnt show how much resolution is getting in the HDMI port, so Im stuck there. Below, the questions:
1) Does YOUR MHL interfaces show a pixelated image on the TV? (Specially on movies...). Mine does, large sized pixels.
2) Can be possible that the phone looks better than the TV?? Im using a 1080p HDMI cable...
3) Is there any way to change MHL output resolution (in the phone) with an app or a custom ROm?
4) It is possible that someone tell me that his/her MHL looks 10 times better than mine and how can I do it??
Thanks A LOT, and I hope you dont have much trouble helping a noob with "Tarzanic" English (from Argentina...)
Kind Regards
I have watched a couple of movies on mine. The first movie was very pixilated. The second movie I watched was fine. I believe the pixilation to have been the quality of the movie file. The only other problem I have is that when I use Netflix it doesn't display on my TV in a 16x9 format. Rather I get two black bars on on the left one on the right of my wide screen while my phone displays in a wide screen.
I hate to post this as I might get flamed for not flashing my phone with a custom rom but I am running a stock SII on 4.0.3.
Thoughts
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I have watched a couple of movies on mine. The first movie was very pixilated. The second movie I watched was fine. I believe the pixilation to have been the quality of the movie file. The only other problem I have is that when I use Netflix it doesn't display on my TV in a 16x9 format. Rather I get two black bars on on the left one on the right of my wide screen while my phone displays in a wide screen.
I hate to post this as I might get flamed for not flashing my phone with a custom rom but I am running a stock SII on 4.0.3.
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Rather than flamed, I would say thank you for being the only answer until now...
Besides, the fact that you are not running a custom ROM is a great reference for me (because if your quality is better than mine, so MHL works better on stock ROM...)
So, putting movies aside for a moment, your overall image quality (for example, gallery) looks in the TV as good as in the phone? Or you can see some differences?
Thk U and regards
It looks much the same as the phone. The phone probably looks a little bit better as the screen is smaller. I would say to try different source files. ie mkv vs xvid, or standard mp4 files to see if the pixilation is different for different formats as apposed to a rom problem before I went flashing different roms.
To answer your question though the screen on my TV doesn't pixilate when doing anything except when running a low quality file. Screen transisition when flipping from one screen to another is a little bit delayed, but looks just as good on the TV as on the phone. Pictures display well.
Thanks!!
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It looks much the same as the phone. The phone probably looks a little bit better as the screen is smaller. I would say to try different source files. ie mkv vs xvid, or standard mp4 files to see if the pixilation is different for different formats as apposed to a rom problem before I went flashing different roms.
To answer your question though the screen on my TV doesn't pixilate when doing anything except when running a low quality file. Screen transisition when flipping from one screen to another is a little bit delayed, but looks just as good on the TV as on the phone. Pictures display well.
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Okey, thanks for the advice. I was testing on streaming content from the web, now I will see how it works on stored files.
Last thought, did you try it with games? I tested a couple of HD games and still looking the same: little pixelation on TV, none on screen (but now I agree with your opinion of smaller screen --> better qualiy).
Kind regards
Never tried it with any games. Pixilation in streaming content could be a network bottleneck. Definitely try locally stored files on the phone and see what you get.
I have an inexpensive MHL adapter I purchased from ebay for my Samsung Galaxy S2 SkyRocket. I found when I stream a movie from the nextflix app to the TV it's very pixelated but streaming the same movie from a laptop with HDMI out gives a much better picture.
Is this an issue with the MHL being inexpensive?
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I have an inexpensive MHL adapter I purchased from ebay for my Samsung Galaxy S2 SkyRocket. I found when I stream a movie from the nextflix app to the TV it's very pixelated but streaming the same movie from a laptop with HDMI out gives a much better picture.
Is this an issue with the MHL being inexpensive?
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This isn't a skyrocket forum firstly. Secondly don't bump old threads . Go over to the skyrocket forum and they'll be able to help you better. Best of luck
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This isn't a skyrocket forum firstly. Secondly don't bump old threads . Go over to the skyrocket forum and they'll be able to help you better. Best of luck
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Lay off the guy man. He's asking a question related to the topic!
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I don't believe it is your adapter I believe it is the app it's self. When using the Netflix app I get bad quality over my mhl, but if I stream a good quality mkv file the quality displayed on the tv is fine.
The mhl adapter is a digital adapter. 1s and 0s are 1s and 0s this is the same reason not to buy the 100 dollar hdmi cable the sales person at your local electronics store is trying to sell you go for the 3 dollar cable you found on ebay.
At least the guy did some searching and posted in an existing thread and didn't create another thread covering the same topic.
Let's keep in mind he has a skyrocket. Which in the end is a different phone. so when the next sky rocket owner asks a question related to this on Google he'll be led here. Which is NOT the skyrocket forum. And then while he's here he'll flash a ROM, brick his device, and make a new thread. Its a viscous cycle Lol.
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Let's keep in mind he has a skyrocket. Which in the end is a different phone. so when the next sky rocket owner asks a question related to this on Google he'll be led here. Which is NOT the skyrocket forum. And then while he's here he'll flash a ROM, brick his device, and make a new thread. Its a viscous cycle Lol.
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Assuming a lot there
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I'm sure the Netflix app has an invisible setting to stream a certain quality depending on screen size. Or maybe all mobile devices have a certain resolution/bit rate, which is probably low enough to look like crap on a larger TV screen.
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