Hello administrators,
for a better overview i think it would be better to make own sections in
Galaxy S II Original Android Development Thread and Android Development Thread for Android 4.x.x and 2.x.x ROMs.
Thank you
Has already been discussed on here a few weeks ago. It was decided this isn't going to happen. Case closed.
Negative on that Housten, negative on that.
In a month or two, three tops, 92.7% of all S2 around here will be running ICS, so the question of more overview will eliminate itself.
HellcatDroid said:
Negative on that Housten, negative on that.
In a month or two, three tops, 92.7% of all S2 around here will be running ICS, so the question of more overview will eliminate itself.
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Hi forum.
This is a serious question
Can anybody tell me, in a few words, why ICS is better than 2.3.6 ?
Just a few examples please.
Thank You
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Can anybody tell me, in a few words, why ICS is better than 2.3.6 ?
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'cause it's newer and has a higher version number!
OK, seriously
ICS adds a lot of new features for devs to use in their apps, it brings in features from the tablet-only Honeycomb 3.x Android, is a "united Android" for phones AND tabloits (as 2.x is for phones and 3.x for tablets).
Also has a revised UI, but if that's better or worse is everyones personal decision to make. (I personally like it very much).
It also makes better use of the available resources/hardware.
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I'd really like to get the Galaxy S2, but not without Cyanogen Mod support. What do you think are the chances that the Galaxy S2 will get CM? The Galaxy S still has no stable CM Rom.
Does a bear **** in the woods?
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Polar bears don't.
But why doesn't the Galaxy S have a stable CM ROM then?
Stock Media Codecs > CM
if they find a way to keep all the goodies from Samsung then I'm all for it
Frankly, I don't care about the Samsung programmes. If it can be turned off, then ok, but I'd rather have the whole CM experience.
This hardly seems like the right forum for this thread...
So what's the right forum, if not the Galaxy S II Android Development Forum?
Android Development should only contain threads based on actual projects/ROMs/kernels/etc being developed. Discussions about what may or may not be coming to the device should go in general. Best rule of thumb in my book: if you're not actually developing something yourself, a thread shouldn't be started here.
Sorry if I came off like a prick - I just know that this ends up becoming more work for the mods who have to comb through and move threads around.
Also I apologize for theoretically hijacking your thread - Just trying to help keep people in the know
hopefully it will get CM
i really cant stand touchwiz
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Android Development should only contain threads based on actual projects/ROMs/kernels/etc being developed. Discussions about what may or may not be coming to the device should go in general. Best rule of thumb in my book: if you're not actually developing something yourself, a thread shouldn't be started here.
Sorry if I came off like a prick - I just know that this ends up becoming more work for the mods who have to comb through and move threads around.
Also I apologize for theoretically hijacking your thread - Just trying to help keep people in the know
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No problem, I didn't know that.
Maybe a moderator can move the thread into the appropriate forum.
What I really like to know is why the Galaxy S still hasn't got a stable release. Is this also to be expected with the S2?
slyydrr said:
Android Development should only contain threads based on actual projects/ROMs/kernels/etc being developed. Discussions about what may or may not be coming to the device should go in general. Best rule of thumb in my book: if you're not actually developing something yourself, a thread shouldn't be started here.
Sorry if I came off like a prick - I just know that this ends up becoming more work for the mods who have to comb through and move threads around.
Also I apologize for theoretically hijacking your thread - Just trying to help keep people in the know
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I agree. Good post, and yes, this should have been in General. Just keep that in mind for the next time We are all excited for this phone, and i personally think that Samsung stock ROM is also quite good. However, to each his own, and I am sure that CM will be out for this phone too
Cheers!
ro-mann said:
No problem, I didn't know that.
Maybe a moderator can move the thread into the appropriate forum.
What I really like to know is why the Galaxy S still hasn't got a stable release. Is this also to be expected with the S2?
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Moved to general
The SGS2 is similar to the SGS in many ways, therefore CM will be difficult to port over.
Especially that there is no Nexus S 2 (a lot of CM7 is from the Nexus S)
Don't expect CM7+ to be running on the SGS2 anytime soon, although it probably eventually will. That's unless anything else happen (a/a genius comes along b/samsung open source more stuff c/Nexus S 2 is released d/sgs2 shares even more with the sgs than I though and current work can be ported over more easily)
This phone is fast enough without CM7. A clean up of the stock ROM, a new launcher and its sweet enough!
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risq said:
This phone is fast enough without CM7. A clean up of the stock ROM, a new launcher and its sweet enough!
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
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It will still miss the CM Tweaks.
A shame that Cyanogen has chosen the G2x as his next phone. The Galaxy S2 is way better than the G2x.
bilboa1 said:
The SGS2 is similar to the SGS in many ways, therefore CM will be difficult to port over.
Especially that there is no Nexus S 2 (a lot of CM7 is from the Nexus S)
Don't expect CM7+ to be running on the SGS2 anytime soon, although it probably eventually will. That's unless anything else happen (a/a genius comes along b/samsung open source more stuff c/Nexus S 2 is released d/sgs2 shares even more with the sgs than I though and current work can be ported over more easily)
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i'm not aware of the history, why exactly was it difficult to bring cyanogen to the original galaxy s, and hence this SGS2 as well? wasnt it like any other phone, the source was released, and cm team built from that?
RogerPodacter said:
i'm not aware of the history, why exactly was it difficult to bring cyanogen to the original galaxy s, and hence this SGS2 as well? wasnt it like any other phone, the source was released, and cm team built from that?
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Open-source drivers are hard to find. The system is open source but the drivers are not.
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Open-source drivers are hard to find. The system is open source but the drivers are not.
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Isn't this the case with any other phone?
But why doesn't the Galaxy S have a stable CM ROM then?
Buy the devs a SGS 2 and they can work on it . Bit hard to work on a phone you dont have .
jje
Well, apparently they have a Galaxy S, otherwise there wouldn't be Release Candidates.
Guys can someone tell me is ther fully working 4.0 android for galaxy s2 or will it be can some one give me a dl link whit all stuff for me to install it ?
Seriously? Are too lazy to look in development?
Catic said:
Guys can someone tell me is ther fully working 4.0 android for galaxy s2 or will it be can some one give me a dl link whit all stuff for me to install it ?
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Hello. Yes, there is a fully working Android 4.0 ROM for the Galaxy S2 - you can download it (with instructions) here.
Enjoy.
try this http://www.samsung-galaxy-s2-android.com/index.html I have been using the beta 1.1 and its great. Give it a try you will not regret it.
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try this I have been using the beta 1.1 and its great. Give it a try you will not regret it.
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Does this have working portable hotspot and tethering? and does the phone read the sd card correctly for music and gallery?
everything is working for me except the video recorder and some video play back is choppy. i was surprised by how good its working for me. Battery life seems to be good to.
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Seriously? Are too lazy to look in development?
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No i am not but there are too many different android 4.0 don't know what is the best ....
Catic said:
No i am not but there are too many different android 4.0 don't know what is the best ....
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Just read them, rather than ask other people to read them for you.
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No i am not but there are too many different android 4.0 don't know what is the best ....
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Ignorance is bliss .
ICS Android 4 has not been released by Samsung .
XDA have a leaked ICS v KP8 Beat test rom not everything works that's why its not released .
You can install or one of the custom roms built around this . But its not for noobs and will of course void your warranty .
jje
I installed it 1 time and i was not happy whit it so i got back to official stuff xD
I found the latest CM9 build from Codeworkx to be stable enough as a daily use ROM. But I prefer TouchWiz to vanilla, so I switched back. It was very smooth though.
Bwahahaaaahahahahahaha Gold.
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Hello. Yes, there is a fully working Android 4.0 ROM for the Galaxy S2 - you can download it (with instructions) here.
Enjoy.
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Guys can someone tell me is ther fully working 4.0 android for galaxy s2 or will it be can some one give me a dl link whit all stuff for me to install it ?
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Why would you want to go with 4.0 when 5.0 leaked already?! Find it in all its glory here.
buddy do not listen to any of the above posts...here is a link to what you need. it is stable and smooth..trust me its my new daily driver. Click here buddy it is the latest build of ICS Link for latest ICS build
You are all gits. Give him a break, it's a reasonable question due to all the different versions flying round.
Try this thread.
Rather than being smartasses, why not give the guy an actual answer? If you think that said 'noobs' will be re educated by repeatedly posting that video, you're delusional. Either that or you genuinely think the same joke is funny after the 3rd time in a row, in which case, you're still delusional.
With this kind of attitude rife, nobody will learn to use the forum correctly or get the answers they want, creating yet more noobs.
To answer OPs question - no, there is no official ICS builds
from samsung yet. You're welcome to try a leaked build or Cyanogenmod 9, which I personally find stable enough for daily use. If you want real stability with every feature functional, however, you're going to have to wait to the official version from Samsung.
Next time, to avoid this immature nonsense, do a quick search and browse the development forum.
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Rather than being smartasses, why not give the guy an actual answer? If you think that said 'noobs' will be re educated by repeatedly posting that video, you're delusional. Either that or you genuinely think the same joke is funny after the 3rd time in a row, in which case, you're still delusional.
With this kind of attitude rife, nobody will learn to use the forum correctly or get the answers they want, creating yet more noobs.
To answer OPs question - no, there is no official ICS builds
from samsung yet. You're welcome to try a leaked build or Cyanogenmod 9, which I personally find stable enough for daily use. If you want real stability with every feature functional, however, you're going to have to wait to the official version from Samsung.
Next time, to avoid this immature nonsense, do a quick search and browse the development forum.
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Some good points, however a bit of mickey taking should be expected
I am running the CM9 ICS ROM and it is very good even at this early stage. Bits like audio out through the Sammy car dock aren't working (as you'd expect) and the video issues are annoying but not show stoppers IMO so I'm using this as my daily driver for now and will see what the battery life is like.
The only real way is to do a backup and try it out for yourself.
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Rather than being smartasses, why not give the guy an actual answer? If you think that said 'noobs' will be re educated by repeatedly posting that video, you're delusional. Either that or you genuinely think the same joke is funny after the 3rd time in a row, in which case, you're still delusional.
With this kind of attitude rife, nobody will learn to use the forum correctly or get the answers they want, creating yet more noobs.
To answer OPs question - no, there is no official ICS builds
from samsung yet. You're welcome to try a leaked build or Cyanogenmod 9, which I personally find stable enough for daily use. If you want real stability with every feature functional, however, you're going to have to wait to the official version from Samsung.
Next time, to avoid this immature nonsense, do a quick search and browse the development forum.
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I'll tell you why.
More and more people are coming to these forums, and disregard everything that's posted. They jump in, create a thread, ask the same questions, and expect us to do the work for them.
If this specific user took the 15 minutes to read, he would quickly understand that there are two versions of ICS for the GS2 - leaked builds from Samsung, and CM9. He would also quickly understand that none of these are "full working ROMs".
However, seeing as he couldn't bother himself for 15 minutes to at least try and figure things out on his own, I definitely can't be bothered to write a valid response and to encourage that kind of behavior.
The video basically says "search before you post". He should search before he posts. It isn't funny, it isn't a joke, its actually pretty sad the video had to be created in the first place. But it was created, and it does exist, and so I'll use it whenever its appropriate.
XDA is not anybody's personal tech support - this is not a 1-800 number to dial if you're having problems or questions regarding your device. It is, though, an enormous hub of information that is readily available to anyone who's willing to put in the tiny bit of effort required to properly use it.
Soulicro well said put it in a nutshell .
Let Rolling star answer this same question 400 times in a month dont mind ten times a day .
jje
Hello.
So I just ordered a GSIII and it will probably arrive in a day or two.
Until then I decided to try learn everything about this phone (or at least as much as possible)
Here some simple(maybe) questions I have.
How far are they with the custom ROMs? I saw there are quite a lot of them so far but the once I looked on (based on jellybeans) where still having camera problems and a few other minor issues. Are there any stable custom roms where almost everything works?
Another question is. I saw there is a normal android dev sub forum and a new one called "original android dev"
I guess the first one is dev projects based on samsungs official ROM while the other one is for dev project based on AOSP?
What's the pros/cons for each? I guess the AOSP roms don't have the video window playing while doing other stuff and maybe not the galaxy beam thingy?
Also I have been pretty much dead on this forum for half a year.
Tried to do a comback two months ago but my Desire got bricked I think since it completely died during change of hboot.
Anything groundbreaking I have missed in the world of android the past half year (I already know about the most common things like the major things JellyBean brings but not all of the details)
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Hello.
Here some simple(maybe) questions I have.
How far are they with the custom ROMs? I saw there are quite a lot of them so far but the once I looked on (based on jellybeans) where still having camera problems and a few other minor issues. Are there any stable custom roms where almost everything works?
Majority no problems .
Another question is. I saw there is a normal android dev sub forum and a new one called "original android dev"
That reading the rules
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/introducing-original-development-forums-for-more-devices/
I guess the first one is dev projects based on samsungs official ROM while the other one is for dev project based on AOSP?
NO not often yes .
What's the pros/cons for each? I guess the AOSP roms don't have the video window playing while doing other stuff and maybe not the galaxy beam thingy?
You have to work them out for yourself best rom what rom posts are banned .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674286
jje
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Hi, I have a GS1, GS2 (hardly mine but still) and a GS3. For GS1 there is an abundance of ROMS, kernels etc. İn a couple of days after a new Android version gets released lots of ROMS become available. When it comes to GS2 and GS3 though, there are hardly any choices. For example, at the moment there are about 10 4.2.1 ROMs just in the first page of I9000 development. There is none for the others.
What is the reason for this even though the other two have much higher userbases? Just curious. Happy holidays.
GS 1 needs development GS3 does not so much .
There are only so many variations on themed roms .
Its a devs choice what to build and if you are lucky to share with XDA users .
A fair number no longer post on XDA as they are fed up with idiotic questions .
You can speed the process up by donating a SGS3 to a dev .
jje
Is that idiotic questions part for me? It is hardly an idiotic question. With a little overclock I can get more performance out of my GS1 than GS3, the stock performance is really low. I've seen lots of comments how it takes too long to open the phone and contacts apps etc. It is not like I'm angry for no development. It is a simple question.
I've been donating money to everyone who helped me. Thank you.
Inagalaxyfaraway said:
Is that idiotic questions part for me? It is hardly an idiotic question. With a little overclock I can get more performance out of my GS1 than GS3, the stock performance is really low. I've seen lots of comments how it takes too long to open the phone and contacts apps etc. It is not like I'm angry for no development. It is a simple question.
I've been donating money to everyone who helped me. Thank you.
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Like the person above you said there are only so many variation in themes for a rom.. Plus GS3 is fast as it is so making a rooted custom rom is for apps and themes.. Also for those apps that need root.. Anyway he is also right dev's deffo get fedup after a while due to the same question asked so many times. They make FAQ's but that still results in so many same questions..
Inagalaxyfaraway said:
Is that idiotic questions part for me? It is hardly an idiotic question. With a little overclock I can get more performance out of my GS1 than GS3, the stock performance is really low. I've seen lots of comments how it takes too long to open the phone and contacts apps etc. It is not like I'm angry for no development. It is a simple question.
I've been donating money to everyone who helped me. Thank you.
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What planet are you on m8? a gs1 outperforming a gs3? Yea sure.
There is an abundance of development for the s3, but i would like to know what you want to achieve from this thread?
Perhaps you should give developing a go yourself and stop being a....
MOD EDIT: Appreciate the point your trying to get across but try not to use foul language, Thanks.
EDIT: Thanks Mod, sorry about that, I was on the fence over that one.
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What planet are you on m8? a gs1 outperforming a gs3? Yea sure.
There is an abundance of development for the s3, but i would like to know what you want to achieve from this thread?
Perhaps you should give developing a go yourself and stop being a....
MOD EDIT: Appreciate the point your trying to get across but try not to use foul language, Thanks.
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Well i was going to tone it down because i've been such an ass lately but i support you lool..
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What planet are you on m8? a gs1 outperforming a gs3? Yea sure.
There is an abundance of development for the s3, but i would like to know what you want to achieve from this thread?
Perhaps you should give developing a go yourself and stop being a....
MOD EDIT: Appreciate the point your trying to get across but try not to use foul language, Thanks.
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Legendary, absolutely legendary.
Sent From My Omega'd Galaxy S3 ...
Inagalaxyfaraway said:
Is that idiotic questions part for me? It is hardly an idiotic question. With a little overclock I can get more performance out of my GS1 than GS3, the stock performance is really low. I've seen lots of comments how it takes too long to open the phone and contacts apps etc. It is not like I'm angry for no development. It is a simple question.
I've been donating money to everyone who helped me. Thank you.
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Did i say your question was idiotic ???
I merely stated that due to idiotic posters a number of devs no longer put stuff on XDA .
Like those that don't read the instructions and continually ask for updates or fail to understand what was written .
Do you misunderstand what XDA Developers forum is >> Most definitely you do .
jje
dladz said:
What planet are you on m8? a gs1 outperforming a gs3? Yea sure.
There is an abundance of development for the s3, but i would like to know what you want to achieve from this thread?
Perhaps you should give developing a go yourself and stop being a....
MOD EDIT: Appreciate the point your trying to get across but try not to use foul language, Thanks.
EDIT: Thanks Mod, sorry about that, I was on the fence over that one.
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Maybe you should stop being a whatever you were writing. I've never criticised anyone for not developing, I've kindly asked is there a technical reason for this. If you don't have an answer you can shut up and get out of here.
JJEgan said:
Did i say your question was idiotic ???
I merely stated that due to idiotic posters a number of devs no longer put stuff on XDA .
Like those that don't read the instructions and continually ask for updates or fail to understand what was written .
Do you misunderstand what XDA Developers forum is >> Most definitely you do .
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I've misunderstood your post, sorry about that. You've suggested me to donate a SGS3 and obviously it is hardly possible for anyone, so I've assumed you were angry for this post.
I've simply asked a question is there a technical reason for the thing I've described above, I don't care whether everyone develops for GS3 or nobody.
Anyway, again I am sorry for that misunderstanding.
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Hi, I have a GS1, GS2 (hardly mine but still) and a GS3. For GS1 there is an abundance of ROMS, kernels etc. İn a couple of days after a new Android version gets released lots of ROMS become available. When it comes to GS2 and GS3 though, there are hardly any choices. For example, at the moment there are about 10 4.2.1 ROMs just in the first page of I9000 development. There is none for the others.
What is the reason for this even though the other two have much higher userbases? Just curious. Happy holidays.
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You may have answered the question yourself. Userbase is bound to be higher, hence more custom roms.
GS1 has been out for nearly three years. GS3 about half a year.
I didn't have a very close look, but the 10 4.2.1 roms you mention are probably all CM kangs.
Number of JB 4.2 ROMs shouldn't really matter, as they will probably be quite similar in the general functions they offer. Will all of those 10 JB 4.2 ROMs be so unique from each other that they look like HTC vs Samsung for example? I wouldn't think so. Not downtalking the importance of developers or anything but you can customise the ROMs to your taste using the mods and apps in the Themes & Apps section if you want diversification.
So I'll just pick one at random then? Thanks for the help...
There is a thread with links to all the stock firmware releases. But downgrading has been debated if its even possible. The procedure is detailed in a couple different posts from what I've read. I doubt you will be able to run a kk ROM with the a LL bootloader and modem.
Sent from my SM-G900T
There are still Cyanogenmod 11 (KitKat) builds in the unified development section, that's probably your best bet. As mgp53 pointed out it's difficult if not downright impossible to downgrade android versions using the official firmware, if you're already on 5.1.1
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There are still Cyanogenmod 11 (KitKat) builds in the unified development section, that's probably your best bet. As mgp53 pointed out it's difficult if not downright impossible to downgrade android versions using the official firmware, if you're already on 5.1.1
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Thanks so much! I am pouring through it now... might take a bit since I don't see a column for version number http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/unified-development#romList but I'll just sort by latest release and click on every single link manually till I see a 4.x that isn't a buggy PoS. I was originally hoping to steer clear of AOSP/CM because I heard the battery life isn't as good as TW or "superslim" style stripped-down stock fws, but at this point I will take what I can get. I've had terrible luck getting any kind of answers across multiple subforums on this site. Your post was the most useful by far. Thanks again.
Incoming rant...
It really is a shame that 1) the download links on the 600+ Infinity ROM thread are all dead, 2) SlimROM doesn't seem to exist in any meanful/useable state for the s5 even though they have tons of devices including the s3/s4, 3) Sick n Twi5ted for 4.x is a buggy PoS, 4) Liquidsmooth has major missing features such as no camera (You thought releasing a ROM on a 16megapixel flagship device with no camera function was OK enough to start asking for donations and then never got around to adding support for the camera? At least have the decency to put a list of major bugs and missing features in the OP. It is debateably fraudulent to put a donate button where the 'Major Issues' section should be and then not even have a disclaimer.
Users of this site really ought not to have to pour through 60-600 pages to find out major flaws on a ROM. In all the dozens of threads I've sifted through over the past week there was exactly ONE who was up front and honest including a section devoted to missing features/major bugs.
/end_rant
On the bright side, all this madness had led me to seriously consider developing my own ROM and that would probably be a good thing for me in general to learn anyway. Or alternatively I could create a website devoted to archiving older ROMs since there seems to be quite a few that have gone missing here. (think oldversion.com circa 2005)
Whatever I decide to contribute, there certainly is room for a lot of it here.
android6 greatly improved idle battery life, plus you can underclock the cpu if you have root