[Q] Rooting advice. - Motorola Photon 4G

I've recently moved from an Evo 3D to a MoPho. I couldn't stand the overly bloated sense and there was a serious lack of stable aosp roms on it. Im not concerned about how to root the photon because there's plenty of guides to do it on here.
I've previously never owned a Motorola phone, always htc or samsung. So im not use to the methods of rooting.
My point is I currently have a MoPho with 45.2.1.MB855.Sprint.en.US. I get prompted for an ota update. I want the most current radios and to able to have root. It was a pain to flash kernels and roms on the 3D with the latest bootloader. If I ota to the lastest will I still be able to have root, or is it better to do it now while I have a downgraded version, and if I do root on the downgraded version could someone lead me to the links where to find the latest radios. I have no luck.
Thanks in advance.

You can ota to latest version and still root. I'm on 45.3.6 and used a well known method currently in use on the forum: aio
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benman715 said:
I've recently moved from an Evo 3D to a MoPho. I couldn't stand the overly bloated sense and there was a serious lack of stable aosp roms on it. Im not concerned about how to root the photon because there's plenty of guides to do it on here.
I've previously never owned a Motorola phone, always htc or samsung. So im not use to the methods of rooting.
My point is I currently have a MoPho with 45.2.1.MB855.Sprint.en.US. I get prompted for an ota update. I want the most current radios and to able to have root. It was a pain to flash kernels and roms on the 3D with the latest bootloader. If I ota to the lastest will I still be able to have root, or is it better to do it now while I have a downgraded version, and if I do root on the downgraded version could someone lead me to the links where to find the latest radios. I have no luck.
Thanks in advance.
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I just got my MoPho also. I'm on 45.3.6 and had no problem rooting with the AIO method.
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Thanks for the tip guys, my phone is now rooted

benman715 said:
Thanks for the tip guys, my phone is now rooted
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Congrats!
You now have a decision to make: stay where you are or proceed with unlocking to be able to flash a custom ROM. I too came from an EVO and had only had HTC phones prior. It's way different here. You should be able to figure out out, there are some good threads around. Just know that you'll lose 4G if you unlock. That's not an issue for a lot of folks, though.
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Yea I've noticed. I want to unlock the bootloader. Not so much into the roms as I am into the kernels.

Do you lose 4g just for rooting or is this if you flash a new ROM?

Unlocking the bootloader kills 4g. Unlocking is the first step to installing a custom rom.
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Related

Correct flashing path?

Im coming over to the photon from E4GT, tired of Samsung.
Anyway, Im confused about the most optimal route for flashing. I see bootstrap, unlocked bootloader stuff. I see a couple kernals, a couple roms....but then there is the OTA thing that will probably occur when I power on the phone. How will affect my rom set up? Why does flashing an ext 4 kernal break the wifi functionality? Why would anyone use bootstrapped method when the bootloader is now unlocked?
Idk, Im just a little photon newb, and I will probably told to go do more reading. But honestly I have such a headache from researching these phones (new sprint customer), dealing with my E4GT probalems....so if anyone feels like typing and introducing me to photon best practices, I will "thank" them.
Thanks guys
Root, Unlock with Pudding, Flash CWM, flash away.
What about that latest OTA? Will my phone alrdy have it?
Root, unlock, flash cwm 5, flash homebase 2.1 with 4.2 update. My phone has been flawless.
Unlock = loose 4g
Even if you get the latest ota the pudding flash takes you back, then whatever the ROM you flash its based on
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And welcome to the photon btw!
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Why use pudding instead of bootstrap?
boolboo said:
Why use pudding instead of bootstrap?
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Bootstrap is a waste of time.
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Just wondering, what problems did you have with your epic touch?
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Flashing issues with bootstrap, possible bricking, only really good for backups... My path for flashing was pudding unlock, root with one click root from shabby, fastboot clockwork onto your phone, then place the ROM of your choice on your phone via cwm... I'm running homebase 2.1 Deblur with update 4.2, and so far not a single problem. Just make sure you know what you are doing and read read read before doing anything. Any questions feel free to pm me or one of the other members and we can help you through everything!
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Lost root after the last update from htc

Lost root with the latest update from htc that fixed Google Wallet. Anyone else?
I only want to root to have tethering but I don't want to flash custom roms.
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rule of thumb is to never accept an ota if you want root
I wasn't planning on rooting when I accepted the update but now I do lol. Does anyone know how to root it after the update or at least when it will be made available?
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Ed.V said:
I wasn't planning on rooting when I accepted the update but now I do lol. Does anyone know how to root it after the update or at least when it will be made available?
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You never accept an update If you are rooted or ever plan to root.
You cannot gain s-off with the newest update, but can still do HTC dev
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Thankfully, with HTC Dev, we'll pretty much always have the option of rooting regardless of update.
Yes, but I believe with the new hboot 1.15 there's no more flashing kernals, radios, or splash screens........ouch
My EVO Ways
the only thing u cant do if u took the update is u cant get s-off at this time.. u can still use all the other root tools... :good:
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Yes, but I believe with the new hboot 1.15 there's no more flashing kernals, radios, or splash screens........ouch
My EVO Ways
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Radios and splash screens.. oh well. Not a big deal.
And kernels.. well, my views on kernels aren't popular so I will keep them to myself.
I really dont care to have S-OFF. I just want root access for tethering. I had the Old Evo 4G and I spent hours and days flashing roms and it was addictive! I just dont want to teak this LTE. To me ICS is working fine and I dont want to be hooked again of flashing, Nand backups and such.
I just want a safe way to re gain root, for Tethering. again I dont care about Bootloader or S-OFF.
Any input will be appreciated.
I made a topic on why you root and it got closed.. same reasoning I'm hearing about is why I wanted people to fully be aware this isn't the evo og and rooting could be bad this time
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HTC Dev
Question guys, you can use HTC Dev for the Evo but you won't get S-OFF, what does that mean.
Can I still flash Radios, Modems, and can I tweak with msl reader like the old EVO.
Also has anyone found a root method post Google Wallet Update from July 11th. I decided to update because I was not rooted yet, but now I want to root.
Aw man, I'm a new member at xda, just got on the forums when I got my EVO LTE. I've been trying to lurk and read up but unfortunately never came across somebody saying I shouldn't accept OTAs... I was gonna wait until cm9 or aokp got a bit more stable to root and flash. What have I lost the ability to do by accepting this update?
Edit: nevermind, looks like I'll have to wait until root methods are updated, and possibly wait for another s-off exploit if if comes. Can't flash radios or kernels... Damn...
le0ch said:
Aw man, I'm a new member at xda, just got on the forums when I got my EVO LTE. I've been trying to lurk and read up but unfortunately never came across somebody saying I shouldn't accept OTAs... I was gonna wait until cm9 or aokp got a bit more stable to root and flash. What have I lost the ability to do by accepting this update?
Edit: nevermind, looks like I'll have to wait until root methods are updated, and possibly wait for another s-off exploit if if comes. Can't flash radios or kernels... Damn...
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I'd imagine that it won't be long before someone comes out with an updated root method. Be patient, read and ask questions in the meantime.
If you are S-ON and rooted then you update with the new OTA can you still root the phone again?
I was rooted only and accepted the update. No longer have root access. I saved w voodoo root keeper, but it couldn't restore root after update. Figured that would happen just wanted to try it.
Also after the update, my clock speed only throttles down to 1ghz. Anyone else noticing this? Talk about a battery killer!
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Edit: Scratch that 1ghz thing. Think maybe my widget was freaking out. Seems to be fine now. I was pissed at first too!
First rule of XDA is you don't accept OTA updates for any reason.
Just my 2 cents...I made the mistake with my OG EVO and had to wait for unrEVOked to be updated.
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If you are S-ON and rooted then you update with the new OTA can you still root the phone again?
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You don't accept otas. Period
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Is it possible to use someone else backup 1.31 the previous build when being rooted. I want revert back to the previous build. I'm on the latest update. The reason why i ask this is I want to go back to stock using Ruu.
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Here man....it's a super quick process. Just copied and pasted from another thread....
I took the OTA and I'm rooted again.... It's not even that difficult.
I wanted google wallet and I wanted it bad! So I ran thru the hastle of hacking Google wallet so I could get into settings and clear it. Then HTC re-locked my phone. Ran the RUU, then accepted the OTA.
After you've updated...
Run the HTC unlock. Instructions at HTCdev website.
Then flash TWRP (I used adb fastboot method):
http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/98
Once that's installed you can flash supersu via this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1538053
Find: CWM installable ZIP in the OPs sig block (it works fine with TWRP on 1.22 software)
From there I just installed busybox (by Stepen) via the market. Grabbed Titanium Backup, and here I am. Rooted phone with 1.22 stock ROM.
Not all of the old mods work anymore though. My favorite, which was the battery mods, don't work. They don't even come close to working, so make sure you nandroid backup before you start tinkering..
I'm rooted but my phone is acting weird after using the HTC unlock method with the latest update
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Htc evo 4g lte UPDATE to 1.22.651.3 710RD

Can anyone help me. I was rooted using the method with Voodoo OTA RootKeeper, not really a full root if anyone knows, anyways i was able to have it rooted installed all my apps like Droid wall, Titanium Backup etc.. Now a couple of days ago a software update from Sprint came in and updated to this 1.22.651.3 710RD...
Am i correct to understand that I can not fully root this now? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
If you accepted the ota update, then you can still unlock through HTC dev and still flash roms. But with the update, cannot obtain s-off.
Yes updated to 1.22.651.3 710RD
I thought so I did do the OTA update and should have known better. I hope someone will come out with a way to have S-OFF. Thanks jdcasino
ricardod1 said:
I thought so I did do the OTA update and should have known better. I hope someone will come out with a way to have S-OFF. Thanks jdcasino
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Keep track of what's going on in the ['s-off] lazy panda' thread in original android development. if the lazy panda team figures out a way, it'll show up there.
Can anybody explain how to flash a Rom using my computer after HTC dev unlock and not being rooted?
Thanks in advance for any info!
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By the way I'm on the new OTA and I heard conflicting sides. Some say you can install Roms by flashing through your computer even though you're not rooted (but have done the HTC dev unlock), some say you can't. Also is there a way to root the EVO LTE with the OTA? I've tried the methods that say it'll work but it keeps saying permission denied. :'(
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NEVER ACCEPT AN OTA IF YOU ARE ROOTED,OR EVER PLAN ON ROOTING!
Thats rule #1 of being a rooted user.
End of story. I dont know how these threads keep popping up.
mykeyvee said:
By the way I'm on the new OTA and I heard conflicting sides. Some say you can install Roms by flashing through your computer even though you're not rooted (but have done the HTC dev unlock), some say you can't. Also is there a way to root the EVO LTE with the OTA? I've tried the methods that say it'll work but it keeps saying permission denied. :'(
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HTc DEV unlock = root for all practical purposes. You just slap on Twrp and flash a rooted ROM.
However, since you accepted the OTA you are now severly limited even with an unlocked bootloader. See the first part of my post.
I actually wasn't rooted or unlocked when i took the ota. I was happy with the speed of the new evo so i didn't think i would need to overclock it like every other device i owned thus no need to root. I took the ota cuz i had major issues with my wifi and that's a huge deal to me since 3g blows so bad in my area that my browser times out..... long story. Sorry. Now i just want to customize. So sorry if this is a repetitive question, but can i use adb shell to flash a rom? If so, does anybody have a step by step? I've always just used clockwork mod in the past so i am new to adb.
Recap:
have the OTA
not rooted
HTC DEV unlocked.
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If you are unlocked put on twrp for your custom recovery and flash a ROM that way
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Rxpert said:
If you are unlocked put on twrp for your custom recovery and flash a ROM that way
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Ok thanks, I'll try again. Couldn't get it to install before but I'll try again. The computer recognized my phone but wouldn't communicate with it after that. Drivers are updated, restarted computer no dice. I'll try again though.
Ok so I flashed twrp image through fast boot, said it worked but I don't see any effect. Tried to boot into recovery and nothing but the stock recovery. Any ideas?
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Try rebooting your phone.. I had the same thing happen but after a second full reboot than it would boot into twrp
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cherylbaker said:
Try rebooting your phone.. I had the same thing happen but after a second full reboot than it would boot into twrp
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thanks, I rebooted and it worked! Awesome! actually I rebooted three times then it worked.
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thanks, I rebooted and it worked! Awesome! actually I rebooted three times then it worked.
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I got to this point. yesterday I know with my phone being s-on IN WHAT I BEEN READING you cant install the custom kernals. what roms can I install on the ota 1.22.651.3 with s-on and not have problems. I am new to the evo I been with motorola for the last 4 years with verizon. with the droid x the phones kernal was locked and yet to be hacked. so there was limited to so much. I'm ok with that. All I care for is bloatware removed. that I can theme and hopefully asop sith options of keeping some sense like maybe the camera app. can anyone point me to a rom that will make me happy I just bummed I cant use my liberty rom toolbox on this phone
cgrimm9 said:
I got to this point. yesterday I know with my phone being s-on IN WHAT I BEEN READING you cant install the custom kernals. what roms can I install on the ota 1.22.651.3 with s-on and not have problems. I am new to the evo I been with motorola for the last 4 years with verizon. with the droid x the phones kernal was locked and yet to be hacked. so there was limited to so much. I'm ok with that. All I care for is bloatware removed. that I can theme and hopefully asop sith options of keeping some sense like maybe the camera app. can anyone point me to a rom that will make me happy I just bummed I cant use my liberty rom toolbox on this phone
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If you want asop check out the cm9 thread under 'original android development'. Kushdeck is putting together cm10 and as of recent I believe it's about 99% ready for a daily driver.
*this one*
I have S-on and flashed awesome sauce kernel. For over clocking purposes. You just have to flash using a computer, not custom recovery. However I am HTC dev unlocked on the ota.
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one click root problems
so i dowloaded the evo lte one click root software but the phone is not restarting. any ides?:crying:
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so i dowloaded the evo lte one click root software but the phone is not restarting. any ides?:crying:
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What process did you follow? Exactly...
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mykeyvee said:
What process did you follow? Exactly...
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Sounds like regawmod, you need to reboot manually as aoo as it says rebooting. It would probably be easier to unlock manually.a lot of people seem to have trouble. It will probably be updated soon but its been a problem for the last two updates.

[Q] If Roms, Then No 4G

Hello.
I just got my hands on a Photon 4G.
I'm looking for alternative rom to stock.
However, I noticed that all roms have no 4G wimax. Is that correct? Or, I'm not looking hard enough.
Thank you.
To flash most ROMs you need to unlock your bootloader, flashing a new bootloader breaks 4G.
But you might not have to worry about that, what's your android version number 2.3.4 or 2.3.5?
If you updated your phone to 2.3.5 OTA, that'll lock the bootloader permanently.
I did the 2.3.5 OTA.
So, therefore, no custom roms for me?
And, apparently, Sprint/Motorola will not be updating phone to ICS.
Pretty much, I'm out of luck?
Bock Abrams said:
To flash most ROMs you need to unlock your bootloader, flashing a new bootloader breaks 4G.
But you might not have to worry about that, what's your android version number 2.3.4 or 2.3.5?
If you updated your phone to 2.3.5 OTA, that'll lock the bootloader permanently.
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knite75 said:
I did the 2.3.5 OTA.
So, therefore, no custom roms for me?
And, apparently, Sprint/Motorola will not be updating phone to ICS.
Pretty much, I'm out of luck?
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Pretty much. I know there's locked ROMs but I'm not sure if there are 2.3.5 compatible
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Jaemostoriginal said:
Pretty much. I know there's locked ROMs but I'm not sure if there are 2.3.5 compatible
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I got tired of the OTA bugging me constantly, and was pretty sure I wasn't going to root again, because 1) I had Foxfi for WiFi tether and 2) none of the ROMS that DON'T break 4g were that interesting. So I downloaded it. But, I also fully expected to get ICS from Google, because they promised, on the official ICS upgrade list, that the Photon would be there. BUT, YET AGAIN, THEY LIED!
SO... I have an app that let me re-image my device back to pre-root before, and it was 2.3.4. Can I root, then re-image back to 2.3.4, then apply a ROM?
ALSO, I have heard of unlocking and re-locking the bootloader. Can I root, unlock the bootloader, ROM, then re-lock and restore 4g? If so, how?
And, with ALL the 4g WiMax out there, and so, little 3g even functioning these days, why can't anyone seem to not break WiMax when ROMing? I'm just asking, because I really don't know.
Thanks!
Re-locking your bootloader won't restore 4g. I don't have 4g in my area so haven't ever connected to it so not sure if its much faster. If you want to try custom a ROM then unlock and try it. Can always undo it. That's if you can actually get off 2.3.5

Quick question about 2.3.5

Sorry guys, my google and xda-fu do not seem to be up to snuff today. So here is my question(s):
I have a photon, rooted, unlocked and running the KDDI radio which works on tmobile and sprint, but i still have it on 2.3.4. Is there a way to update it to 2.3.5? I keep reading 2.3.5 will kill unlocking, but root still seems possible. Also does anyone have a thread where either the OTA or the ROM can be found (not the locked bootstrap version)
Update on 2.3.5. change log: http://mrlarge.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/sprint-motorola-photon-4g-receives-ota-update-2-3-5/
Lastly, does 2.3.5 add anything worthwhile? still have not found a change log on that either.
Like i said guys, my google-fu is low on chi today. Thanks in advance though :highfive:
scoobdude said:
Sorry guys, my google and xda-fu do not seem to be up to snuff today. So here is my question(s):
I have a photon, rooted, unlocked and running the KDDI radio which works on tmobile and sprint, but i still have it on 2.3.4. Is there a way to update it to 2.3.5? I keep reading 2.3.5 will kill unlocking, but root still seems possible. Also does anyone have a thread where either the OTA or the ROM can be found (not the locked bootstrap version)
Update on 2.3.5. change log: http://mrlarge.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/sprint-motorola-photon-4g-receives-ota-update-2-3-5/
Lastly, does 2.3.5 add anything worthwhile? still have not found a change log on that either.
Like i said guys, my google-fu is low on chi today. Thanks in advance though :highfive:
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IMHO, Motorola put out 2.3.5 for the sole purpose of locking the bootloader. There is nothing in 2.3.5 to make it worth "upgrading" from 2.3.4.
I recommend staying on 2.3.4.
Although the bootloader is locked, you can root 2.3.5.
If you flash mof's 2.3.5ish locked rom you will have all of the benefits of 2.3.5 without permalocking your bootloader. It's the most recent of the locked rom and IMHO the best option for locked people.
If you don't have 4G wimax anywhere nearby I would recommend unlocking that bootloader and trying one of the jb roms that th3bill has been cranking out
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bullfrog527 said:
If you flash mof's 2.3.5ish locked rom you will have all of the benefits of 2.3.5 without permalocking your bootloader. It's the most recent of the locked rom and IMHO the best option for locked people.
If you don't have 4G wimax anywhere nearby I would recommend unlocking that bootloader and trying one of the jb roms that th3bill has been cranking out
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Can you do that on 2.3.5?
Outdated yet young Motorola Photon 4G
Slender Troll said:
Can you do that on 2.3.5?
Outdated yet young Motorola Photon 4G
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As far as I know, you can. Just root your phone and install bootstrap. The only thing the 2.3.5 update locked down is the bootloader so you should be good to go
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once the MOF has been installed, would it be possible to use this? http://www.ibtimes.com/how-install-...oton-4g-using-custom-firmware-tutorial-939294
Outdated yet young Motorola Photon 4G
Slender Troll said:
once the MOF has been installed, would it be possible to use this? http://www.ibtimes.com/how-install-...oton-4g-using-custom-firmware-tutorial-939294
Outdated yet young Motorola Photon 4G
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You need a unlocked bootloader to install clockworkmod-recovery.
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