I wanted to see if I can post something without getting ridiculed. Seriously doubt that now cause I accidentally posted this in the general Q&A first and did not know how to move it or delete it so i am posing again here. Hopefully a moderator can just take care of that stray posting I made in the general area.
I am on my second ATT SGS2. First one had a GPS issue. Tried everything and finally convinced ATT warranty services that the problem was hardware. They said they would advance replace the handset. So I got it back to stock in every way except the flash counter,this was in December so long before I was aware of mobile odin. Flash counter was at about 12 when I was done trying different ROMs,mostly just try to get the GPS to work. It was in perfect shape, bone stock except for the counter. I cannot imagine I will have an issue, but has anyone ever heard of someone getting charged on a return to stock phone that had a flash counter above stock? Ill update once I know for sure the outcome.
My real question, does everyones SGH-I777 crash on occasion? If so how often? I so happy with the current code that is running on the phone with the exception that it sometimes sleeps and wont wake up, and sometimes it just plain crashes hard, locks up and has to be hard rebooted. Usually this happens about twice a day one or the other. I wiped before installing current kernel. The only reason I am not stock is cause I wanted the CKK6, 2.3.6 update to work and to keep root privaledges, but also needed my wifi cause ATT is throttling me down to dial up speeds when I reach 2GB. So wrong!!! Anyway thats another thread.
I loaded shostock with siyah kernel 2.6.35.14. after wiping everything including both caches. The GPS is solid now, phone is fast, battery is egh, I keep a charger with me... but it crashes hard from one to three times a day. Locks up playing tunes, or wont wake up with out being plugged in or hard booted. Do I have another defective handset or should I just go back to 2.3.4 and UKH7 or should I just deal with it and consider the crashes, "excellent opportunities to reboot."?
Thanks for the all the hours of fun, u know who you are.
I honestly don't remember my phone crashing at all. If it's crashing, it aint stable. Did it crash when it was stock?
yeah I mean duh right? The new handset was updated, rooted, downreved and flashed with the custom rom before it was put under any load, so I do not know if it would have crashed before. I have wiped, re downloaded, checked with hashtab and re flashed my current kernel, so it seems like it has to be hardware, again... ugh. Especially since no one else is having issues with shostock and siyah. I wonder how hard it is going to be to get warranty services to replace the second phone in 3weeks!? Lol.
Try going back to stock and run it for a couple hours to see if it still crashes. If it still crashes then more than likely hardware issues.
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If it's crashing on stock without SetCPU to set a screen-off profile, you have a hardware problem.
I haven't had a crash, freeze, or spontaneous reboot in ages - despite running kernels that a few others have reported stability problems with (and I have effectively halted my kernel until I can get to the bottom of those reports...)
Too often is when it happens regularly, period.
I'm running CyanogenMod 9 and have almost no crashes, despite it being experimental.
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I reverted to stock last night shortly after posting this. Ran fine until re loaded SHOstock v1.9.2-UCKK6. It is not "crashing" but it will go to sleep and not want to wake up again. I can sometimes plug in the charger and that will wake it up but other times I have to hard reboot. So no more crashing, but will not wake from sleep about 10% of the time. Not a huge deal, but its a bit weird because I know that the code I am running is ok, and it seems the hw is ok, so... not sure why this is happening. Anyway thanks all for your suggestions etc.
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I reverted to stock last night shortly after posting this. Ran fine until re loaded SHOstock v1.9.2-UCKK6. It is not "crashing" but it will go to sleep and not want to wake up again. I can sometimes plug in the charger and that will wake it up but other times I have to hard reboot. So no more crashing, but will not wake from sleep about 10% of the time. Not a huge deal, but its a bit weird because I know that the code I am running is ok, and it seems the hw is ok, so... not sure why this is happening. Anyway thanks all for your suggestions etc.
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This sounds like SoD (sleep of death) to me. I would recommend reading through Entropy's kernel thread (yes, it is a LOT of reading) but it might give you some insight into possible causes and/or solutions, and you'll get a great feel for where development on this device has come from, from the beginning...
I had the same problem using the latest siyah kernel, but never with entropy's. I would suggest flashing a new kernel.
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1. To answer the OP question, I have experienced ONCE that was when I tried to run the Andy's TI-83 emulator on my virgin stock ROM. The result is either my fault or the application isn't compatible with the running OS.
2. With bone stock, it shouldn't crash at all. If it does, RMA.
3. If the owner(s) have "some fun" around it such rip it off, hack it up, install different kernels, different ROMs, ...... then please DO NOT complain the device is suck.
I've seen a lot of knuckleheads who tried to mod their devices, screw them up then claim "they're suck".
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This sounds like SoD (sleep of death) to me. I would recommend reading through Entropy's kernel thread (yes, it is a LOT of reading) but it might give you some insight into possible causes and/or solutions, and you'll get a great feel for where development on this device has come from, from the beginning...
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Thanks this sounds like a plan. I have to do something things have gotten worse. About 3 out of ten times I go to put the phone to sleep now, instead of blinking out the phone takes a screen shot. My fingers are no where near any of the other buttons and it takes a screen shot over and over when I press the power button. I have to move around from screen to screen, hit the home button and then hit the power button to put it to sleep. Weird stuff, could be worse though. Did I say that I thought the phone sucks? I thought I read in one of the replies up there something like that. Aside from the GPS issue that was hardware related, and problems I have brought on myself because stock wasnt good enough, this is hands down the most awesome piece of electronics I have ever owned. iPhone smyphone. I just need to find the perfect turbo charged, rooted but as stock as possible configuration that is stable and I will be set. I really like where I am, hopefully the kernel you suggested does not change much but fixes the problems. Thanks again all.
Grab one of Entropy's DD Kernels and flash it with CWM. I'd suggest getting one from Jan or earlier. His latest ones are trying to track down a issue.
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This sounds like SoD (sleep of death) to me. I would recommend reading through Entropy's kernel thread (yes, it is a LOT of reading) but it might give you some insight into possible causes and/or solutions, and you'll get a great feel for where development on this device has come from, from the beginning...
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Grab one of Entropy's DD Kernels and flash it with CWM. I'd suggest getting one from Jan or earlier. His latest ones are trying to track down a issue.
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Ok the noob is going to shine through here... but you say to flash with CWM. With my current config, when I enter recovery mode I am taken to the siyah kernel recovery console. Are we talking the same difference here, and when I go to flash as you mentioned can I do so with Siyah recovery or shall I flash with something that will give me back cwm first and then flash the config that you mentioned in your reply?
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Ok the noob is going to shine through here... but you say to flash with CWM. With my current config, when I enter recovery mode I am taken to the siyah kernel recovery console. Are we talking the same difference here, and when I go to flash as you mentioned can I do so with Siyah recovery or shall I flash with something that will give me back cwm first and then flash the config that you mentioned in your reply?
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That recovery will work. After installing the DD kernel, CWM will change.
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I get a crash here and there everyday...
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Have only ever crashed while messing with voltages or clock speeds. if it's crashing something is wrong.
A few people's phones just do not play well with Siya kernal. Most of those people flash Entropy's DD and the sleep deaths go away... give it a try, I bet it will help!
Mine crashes a few times a day if I'm cycling through a lot of apps or installing things. (Stock+root) the other day my phone would crash anytime I tried, to watch a video in web browser. (Either mxplayer or phone)
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A few people's phones just do not play well with Siya kernal. Most of those people flash Entropy's DD and the sleep deaths go away... give it a try, I bet it will help!
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With Siyah I crashed more often than I do know with DD...
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Ok flashed the DD from 01-30-2012
Thanks for all the help. I will post again when I know if things are better.
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Just started happening today.When charging my phone it will turn on. Does anybody know of a fix or what the cause is?
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Just started happening today.When charging my phone it will turn on. Does anybody know of a fix or what the cause is?
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Do you mean randomly some time after plugging in the charger, but not the 100% notification?
Screen turns on when a charger is plugged in, and also at 100%. A custom ROM can fix the 100% notification.
randomly, comes on about 1-2 minutes after plugging in
i don't have the answer, but i think we're talking about powering the phone off then charging. it's supposed to just show a battery pic but is powering back on. it might be the kernel you're using. that's what people said it was when i tried Sprint's version. mine didn't power back on with this model, but i haven't tried it lately.
using Zedomax stock kernal,phone is off ,plug in to charge normall battery pic will appear after a minute or so it will boot up on it's own
Ghost in the Shell...
Can't help but sure sounds strange... Have you tried to reflash and see if the problem persists?
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reflashed still there
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randomly, comes on about 1-2 minutes after plugging in
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Make sure that the rom you are using is one which is designed for the SGS i777 phone.
It might even be a good idea to re-download the rom just incase the first download
some how got corrupted during downloading.
Do a clean fresh "wipe data/factory reset" and re-flash the rom but don't flash any custom
kernels and don't install any apps at all until you have had enough time to see if the
problem still persists.
Flashing roms like any of the i9100 rom or any other rom which was not
intended for our phones can cause unexpected and random issues.
Good Luck!
I have the same problem. I turned off the phone to charge up, a min later, the phone automatically turns on by itself. I rooted it with Zedomax kernel (SGH-I777-ATTGalaxyS2RootStockZedomaxKernel) before. Could this be the cause? Any other users have the same problem?
Misterjunky said:
Make sure that the rom you are using is one which is designed for the SGS i777 phone.
It might even be a good idea to re-download the rom just incase the first download
some how got corrupted during downloading.
Do a clean fresh "wipe data/factory reset" and re-flash the rom but don't flash any custom
kernels and don't install any apps at all until you have had enough time to see if the
problem still persists.
Flashing roms like any of the i9100 rom or any other rom which was not
intended for our phones can cause unexpected and random issues.
Good Luck!
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Not true. There are minor differences between i777 ROMs and GT9100 ROMs. The main differences are the radio, kernel, and button mapping; which have all been fixed with Hellraiser and HapticFix.
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Just started happening today.When charging my phone it will turn on. Does anybody know of a fix or what the cause is?
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My phone does the same thing. I don't consider it to be a problem because my phone is rarely ever turned off. I wouldn't be too concerned about it. If it bothers you enough, you could always do a warranty exchange. Personally, I'd rather live with a minor annoyance, than have AT&T send me a refurbished replacement.
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You can try out nomoarpowah app. It replaces the battery charging 'off' screen with one that has reboot controls and shows the time.
It might be able to stop the phone from booting itself. Not to mention it's really cool and will only work on Samsung phones.
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Not true. There are minor differences between i777 ROMs and GT9100 ROMs. The main differences are the radio, kernel, and button mapping; which have all been fixed with Hellraiser and HapticFix.
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MJ wrote that before Hellraiser existed. Look at the posting date.
Gr8hairy1, I tried the app. Got it installed and when I run it the phone still shuts down, the battery screen appears and then the phone boots up. Booo:-(
Sorry I meant to quote you.
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using Zedomax stock kernal,phone is off ,plug in to charge normall battery pic will appear after a minute or so it will boot up on it's own
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Try Entrophy's kernel to see if it does the same. Screen off charging is controlled by the kernel from what I'm told. When I was running MIUI it use to do that until they added the function in the kernel.
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I just decided to try it since I never charge that way....lol and mine did it as well.
ah well.... I think this may be an issue.
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Gr8hairy1, I tried the app. Got it installed and when I run it the phone still shuts down, the battery screen appears and then the phone boots up. Booo:-(
Sorry I meant to quote you.
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Well if it's any consolation my phone is doing it too. I guess I never left it off long enough. Starts right up after a minute or so.
But once this issue gets figured out I'm sure you'll really like the app. It's good to turn off the phone every once and awhile. And with it you can set it to boot the phone when it's done charging or at a specific time.
Running unnamed 1.3 with dd11232011 kernel
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I'm also having this problem. Is it hardware? I have the latest unnamed rom. Phone won't stay off no matter what...I've tried pulling the battery and everything.
I don't have this issue on miui if it helps...
IIRC, I also didn't have the issue with UnNamed, but its been a while since I ran that.
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i am having the same issue, using a zedomax kernel, if anyone has a solution i would like to hear it, i like to be able to shut the phone off when charging it some times, it seems to charge faster when its off
This is a known issue with my kernel's 11/23 release, and ONLY that release for my kernel, it was a result of adding support for the Interactive governor.
I have no clue what the results might be for Zedo's kernel - he released one kernel, lots of people had problems with it, then he disappeared. He probably enabled Interactive governor too.
It could also affect CM7, I know for a while CM7 builds had issues with not supporting LPM at all - CM7 devices would go to the bootanimation and stay there.
Okay so I'm not 100% sure if this is a sure fix, but it seems to have worked for myself and my wife. We both were getting random reboots like crazy and it was getting very annoying. I remembered back in my windows mobile TP2 days that a lot of stuff gets stored on the SD card after constant flashing and tweaks. So in order to get a proper flash u normally would have to reformat ur SD card, wipe, wipe, wipe, and then flash ur ROM. That is exactly what I did with my phone as well as my wife's phone. I formatted our SD cards after backing everything up of course. I backed it up on an external harddrive, formatted, put everything back, formatted the phone with a super wipe zip I found somewhere in the development forum, installed a custom stock Rom I have been tweaking and then booted up my phone and have not had a single random reboot since. So as the title says, it is a possible fix. If u try it then please post so that other users can know if it is actually stopping the reboots or if It's just a placebo effect. Thanks and I hope I've helped someone who is extremely frustrated as I was with their 500 dollar phone randomly rebooting.
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I fixed mine with a buisness card as a shim for the battery lol
atistang said:
I fixed mine with a buisness card as a shim for the battery lol
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Yeah my battery wasn't loose at all. My phone would also sometimes freeze up and when I rebooted it would just be a black screen. I had to pull the battery to get it working again. I tried the auto brightness fix bit my screen would go black sometimes and rebooting did not fix. I actually had to pull the battery out.
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See, the problem with my phone is not random reboots, but hard freezes--with custom kernels..only custom kernels. My actual ROM software is very stable.
Now, if someone can figure out why that happens, I will give them $100.
freeza said:
See, the problem with my phone is not random reboots, but hard freezes--with custom kernels..only custom kernels. My actual ROM software is very stable.
Now, if someone can figure out why that happens, I will give them $100.
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Truth. I've never had random reboots and the only reboots I've done were solely manual because of these hardlocks from custom kernels.
If only my phone played nicely with kernels...
freeza said:
See, the problem with my phone is not random reboots, but hard freezes--with custom kernels..only custom kernels. My actual ROM software is very stable.
Now, if someone can figure out why that happens, I will give them $100.
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Since we never had this issue with the 4G you think it could just be a borked kernel source from HTC and we are missing some valuable info in it? Or the dual core aspect of it being ours r diff than others being asynchronous, is very touchy to code and adjustments we woulda made on single cores?
Any other of the MSM8660 handsets experiencing this with their custom kernels or is it just ours? If just ours be worth looking at their stable kernel modes source to see difference n what they might be doing differently??
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Since we never had this issue with the 4G you think it could just be a borked kernel source from HTC and we are missing some valuable info in it? Or the dual core aspect of it being ours r diff than others being asynchronous, is very touchy to code and adjustments we woulda made on single cores?
Any other of the MSM8660 handsets experiencing this with their custom kernels or is it just ours? If just ours be worth looking at their stable kernel modes source to see difference n what they might be doing differently??
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I'm leaning more towards HTC's screwed up source. As this problem wasn't present in their 2.3.3 source, at least with netarchy's kernel. There weren't nearly as many kernels to choose from but still.
I've heard a few people say the source was either incomplete or messed up somehow. We can only hope that HTC releases an updated software version with a new kernel so that they're obligated to release the source as well, and this time hopefully it will be complete.
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I fixed mine with a buisness card as a shim for the battery lol
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I used a gum wrapper for mine
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I'm having strange issues as well. My phone will sometimes lockup while using it and then it displays the bootanimation and gets stuck on it and I have to battery pull. And it's actually done it once so far while I was sleeping. ROM is stock but I just decided to finally update it to 2.3.4 so I flashed dastin1015's "[ROM][Sense 3.0][2.3.4][Nov. 3, 2011] Stock 2.08.651.3 Deodexed w/ Hotspot and Beats" over it and rolled. Before I flashed, I nandroid'd, Titanium'd, and My Backup Pro'd. I then booted into TWRP and flashed and rolled. I didn't clean reset before or after because I was worried about losing texts and whatnot. That seemed to go well so I flashed chad.goodman's mildAnthraX and also updated my PRI. And keep in mind I haven't touched the clock settings or voltage. Any ideas? I was considering flashing stock kernel and seeing if that fixes it. If not, then I imagine I will have to do what I least want to and clean reset my phone. Will the logcat help identity the problem here?
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I'm having strange issues as well. My phone will sometimes lockup while using it and then it displays the bootanimation and gets stuck on it and I have to battery pull. And it's actually done it once so far while I was sleeping. ROM is stock but I just decided to finally update it to 2.3.4 so I flashed dastin1015's "[ROM][Sense 3.0][2.3.4][Nov. 3, 2011] Stock 2.08.651.3 Deodexed w/ Hotspot and Beats" over it and rolled. Before I flashed, I nandroid'd, Titanium'd, and My Backup Pro'd. I then booted into TWRP and flashed and rolled. I didn't clean reset before or after because I was worried about losing texts and whatnot. That seemed to go well so I flashed chad.goodman's mildAnthraX and also updated my PRI. And keep in mind I haven't touched the clock settings or voltage. Any ideas? I was considering flashing stock kernel and seeing if that fixes it. If not, then I imagine I will have to do what I least want to and clean reset my phone. Will the logcat help identity the problem here?
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Ur on the exact setup as I am. Kernel and ROM. Stock kernel still did exactly what u mentioned above as well. After formatting my SD card I have yet to have it happen. It's been about 8 days since I formatted. After reading the posts I don't think formatting my SD card is a fix, but I too am leaning towards HTC kernel being messed up. I think sooner or later my phone is going to do it. My phone was doing exactly as u stated. Booting into the splash screen and not going past it. On some occasions my phone would either freeze up or just go black. The hard buttons would light up but not my screen. Hope this gets figured out soon.
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Mine resets between the hours of 71-80 of being on
I'm having the same problem and I do not know how to solve it! I am so close to selling my Evo 3D and going to the SG II.
I have ran CleanRom and currently running Fresh. I have tried Mwalts kernel, Bcblends kernel, and stock kernel from Fresh stock. No matter what I tried, my phone ALWAYS resets between the hours of 71-80 of being on.
The reset happens only when I try to turn on the phone. It turns on, off really quick, then I hit the power button again, the lock screen comes on, then the phone resets. It is getting really annoying as I love having stability and this phone isn't stable at all.
Any ideas? I have exhausted everything I know. I'm running the exact same programs as I have on the Evo 4G and since it is resetting at the same hours always at the same time on different ROMS/Kernels, I'm pretty sure its not app issue. I also tried changing between the 3 radios and no change there. The only other option now is to do a fresh install of Fresh and use it stock and see what happens.
Rytt
Try setting min cpu freq to something other than 192000, I use 384000 sleep and 482000 wake. I used to have a reboots and freezes but saw that advice somewhere and gave it a shot. Presto no more issues. Battery life is no worse for wear either. Not saying this will work but worth a try.
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ifly4vamerica said:
Try setting min cpu freq to something other than 192000, I use 384000 sleep and 482000 wake. I used to have a reboots and freezes but saw that advice somewhere and gave it a shot. Presto no more issues. Battery life is no worse for wear either. Not saying this will work but worth a try.
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already try that
no luck it still keep rebooting while screen off
freeza said:
See, the problem with my phone is not random reboots, but hard freezes--with custom kernels..only custom kernels. My actual ROM software is very stable.
Now, if someone can figure out why that happens, I will give them $100.
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my cdma-sense kernels having issues????
RLS9 and RLS14 should be 100% stable - and not based off of htc source
(on pre 2.17 based roms)
i think freeza gave rls9 his seal of approval for stability.. if memory serves correctly
...on my phone i use (not my test phone) im @ 242 hours uptime on rls14 and warm 3.5 r116
...no im not trolling, just looking for feedback
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my cdma-sense kernels having issues????
RLS9 and RLS14 should be 100% stable - and not based off of htc source
(on pre 2.17 based roms)
i think freeza gave rls9 his seal of approval for stability.. if memory serves correctly
...on my phone i use (not my test phone) im @ 242 hours uptime on rls14 and warm 3.5 r116
...no im not trolling, just looking for feedback
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He said that before you found the magic fix I'm pretty sure. Notice that was back from November. Lol
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Huge Thanks
thank you so much for sharing your information my evo 3d was rebooting about every 30 min and i have just been dealing with it because i had took my evo4g into the sprint store because it was rebooting aboutevery 5-10min so they looked at it and couldnt figure it out so the gave me the evo3d for free and i put the sdcard that was in my evo 4g into my evo3d without having any idea that it was the sdcard causing all of my problems so the same thing started to happen to my new evo 3d started off about every day and eventually started to reboot every 30min and i just decided that all htc devices were like this so i have been dealing with it but today i said enough is enough and looked online and saw this thread and wiped my sdcard and sure enough no reboots yet its been about 3 hours so i think its fixed
i cant thank you enough i think it got corrupt from all of the flashing i was doing
son of a ***** right as i was about to hit post the mother ****er rebooted so its not my sdcard after all should i take it in to sprint what do you think ahhh i should have never posted anything it was going so well FML!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ps hboot 1.4 is the **** no more going to the computer to flash a rom stupid hboot 1.5
I've sometimes had trouble running custom kernels (reboots and strange behaviors) that were fixed when running the stock kernel. But, the stock kernel leaves a lot to be desired in overall performance, so I continue to kernel hop. But, from my lurking on the different ROM forums, it seems that stock is the way to go for stability at the sacrifice of performance.
I had problems with evo rebooting and that in a loop. Very annoying. For that i've changed several roms just to find out that it could probably be because of widgetsoid.
At first the rebooting after some time of use, 1-2 days. And if flashing a different kernel than the one with rom. I was going mad, the last reboot or series of constant reboot after the evo has turned itself on, has occured after i set the brightness to lowest value, it was late so i wanted a darker screen. Interesting it when i set lowest value in system or via leedroid tweaks in widgetsoid widget popup - value im at 12 %. Maybe i got the restarts because i went below 12? Since my brightness im above 12 in widgetsoid and minimal in system, my evo didn't reboot a single time.
Currently i'm at shawn3d rom. Later i'll try some other kernel and rom again and see if the reboots occured.
U get random reboots while using any brightness widget with custom roms. I've narrowed my 3d threshold for the reboots to be anything less than 5%.
No reboots if kept at or above 5% for me...
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i have had success after formatting system/data/cache to ext4 in the ext4 recovery, i had random reboots and lockups while using twrp and not formatting to ext4, (in all honesty i doubt the twrp was too blame)
I'm posting this here because I hope some devs might be able to get a handle on the problem. I think it has something to do with the launcher.
Since I upgraded my phone to a 2.3.4 ROM, I've had constant problems with its randomly rebooting, or occasionally just freezing. (I say "rebooting", but it always gets stuck in a boot loop, and so it might as well be frozen.) The first ROM was Synergy, but I've had the same trouble on Warm, and with three or four different kernels (OC'ed and not OC'ed) on each of those ROM's. In some configurations it's better, and in some it's worse, but I've nearly always had the reboots happen at least once a day. Sometimes it happens while charging, sometimes while it's not; sometimes it happens while I'm touching it, and sometimes when I haven't touched it in hours (kind of annoying when it's my alarm clock--I missed a meeting last week). There's not a lot of consistency in when it happens, though I should say, for the record, that I've been using Launcher Pro the whole time.
Obviously, I'm not the only one with this problem: for some, like me, it started with 2.3.4 (including, in many cases, the stock OTA); for others, it started when the phone was first released; while for others, it's never happened at all. The fact that some people haven't experienced it at all may mean hardware has something to do with it, and I even read one account of a guy who took five different phones back to Sprint for replacements before finding one that worked right.
After searching high and low, I found a thread on the Sprint Community forums that suggested editing the data.prop file to keep the launcher in memory constantly (Look here and scroll down to post #9.). I tried this a couple of days ago, and it hasn't fixed the problem, but it did dramatically reduce it: I went from rebooting every two hours to rebooting once or twice a day.
I've noticed one other interesting thing: a couple of months ago, I started playing Godville, and I've been propping the phone up next to me and letting it idle with the screen on (while on USB), so that I can glance over every once in a while to see if anything is happening in the game. I've noticed that, every few minutes, the home screen wallpaper briefly replaces the app I have open; it happens so fast that I can't tell for sure if the whole launcher is coming up, but I suspect it is. I wonder if this constant yanking of the launcher into the foreground might be the source of the instability.
my mind is like..... blowwwwn
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no but on a serious note man... many people have had problems with reboots since the launch of the 3D, which was 2.3.3 based. I doubt that was the issue (launcher, your update, your games... gnomes...)
i would say flash the RPM PGIMG86423million update whatever that number is for the bootloader update.zip, and see if that rids you from the reboots.
for me, i fixed my reboots by getting a new SD card... i had the same issue when i first got my 3D late in july. Did it both on 2.3.3 base, and 2.3.4... it occurred to me one day that a bad disk would cause system reboots... and not being able to change out the one built into the phone... i opted for the SD card because it was cheap and i wanted a better one anyways. reboots went away immediately.
it also never occurred to me initially that my SD had been bad for a long time... not just when i had my 3D.. on my previous phone (samsung moment with froyo), whenever i would move apps to the SD card, i would always get some kind of error message. trying to move them a couple times would always successfully move the app(s) to the SD card.. i figured this was a problem with the rom i was on (speaking of my samsung moment)...
then when i transferred my card to my 3D, same problem, along with the reboots, and a light clicked on in my brain and said "***k-tard, your SD card is bad. derp."
haven't had a single reboot since then. i even wonder if the paramount number of people having reboot issues on the 3D was due to HTC possibly shipping them with defective SD cards...
just something to mix around in your brain for a bit...
Yeah, I considered the SD card as a problem, but the reboots happen even when the SD card is mounted as a USB drive. Also, a bad SD card wouldn't explain why keeping the launcher in memory dramatically reduces the problem.
I'll be giving it a try.
Just a side note. I've been using the stock kernel lately and havn't had a single reeboot. I'm on synergy rom and since he put back in the stock kernel w/ no OC I've had no issues.
I may try that, but it would be sad to not to able to OC a rooted phone. I'm starting to wonder if it's a bad internal flash drive, though.
You should try a stock ROM to see if that solves your issue if that's doesn't work maybe you have defective phone
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All my problems went away when I used Senseless ROM. I think the kernel in the ROM is stock. It's been over two weeks since my phone has frozen on me and no more random reboots.
Only stable kernels are tiamat and stock. All the others cause bootloops thanks to tryin to remove ciq
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I'm having the same reboot issues. I've noticed a few things:
1. Doesn't matter what sd card or how new, my phone reboots unexpectedly
2. Phone ONLY reboots RIGHT when the screen times out. Only on Android 2.3.4 w/ sense! It does not matter what kernel. Whatever I do, all reboots are directly related to sense on 2.3.4.
3. The only solution I have found is to deactivate the screen time out or gut HTC proprietary sense from the ROM.
P.s. I DO NOT have problemswith any ota based off 2.3.3
bloodrain954 said:
Only stable kernels are tiamat and stock. All the others cause bootloops thanks to tryin to remove ciq
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Tiamat isn't stable for me.
MTKnife said:
Tiamat isn't stable for me.
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Nor for me. It causes daily hard lockups that require a battery pull on my phone. Tiamat exhibited this on multiple ROMs for me.
I think trying a largely stock rom is a must as a start to tracing your problem. So is incremental additions of apps, tweaks, etc. Basic debugging and defect isolation stuff.
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Only stable kernels are tiamat and stock. All the others cause bootloops thanks to tryin to remove ciq
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What about bcblend by mwalt? Senseless rom has been using that for quite some time and I haven't had any issues. When it was switched to tiamat for a short time (2.5 & 2.6, i believe) I had problems with lockups and reboots. Reboots would occur when the screen timed out every once in a while.
Just curious OP - have you tried the phone on a newly installed rom without installing any side apps for a day or so and seeing if you have any problems? Back on my old nexus S 4g i had issues with a particular battery app that would give similar problems to what you are experiencing.
Tiamat has not been stable for me either. I tried many different rom and kernel combos and am still having the issue. I noticed it is mostly happeneing when the phone is plugged in. but it also happens sometimes when im on a call. So there has to be more than one issue one being the proximity sensor and i cant figure out the other ive hset charging profiles to 384max and 198 min and other low clock speeds to see if it would help. Also set a temp profile to underclock when its over 38.0 celsius. Right now im running olympus trinity xe titan i ran it for a few days with mild anthrax and it only froze/rebooted a few times a day. I tried the anthrax kernel and it rebooted twice the first half hour so i flashed tiamat last night. Im trying to give it time to settle in but it just rebooted again when i plugged into pc. I bought my phone used and rooted before i even activated it so i dont know if this is something kernel/rom related. I started another thread a few days ago about this and the few responses i got were people running stock romand kernel not rooted. So i guess all we can hope for is the devs to figure it out or sprint to give us an ota that fixes it since im starting to belive its a hardware issue.
If you're on titan freezas is recommended.
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I saw a few people talking about that but I thought they were talking about for when he released Hades. I'm gonna find the dl link now thanks.
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Cabe24i said:
Just curious OP - have you tried the phone on a newly installed rom without installing any side apps for a day or so and seeing if you have any problems? Back on my old nexus S 4g i had issues with a particular battery app that would give similar problems to what you are experiencing.
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Not for that long a period, no--unfortunately, I haven't been in a position where I could give up most of the use of my phone for that long. Once I have grades submitted next Monday, I can probably do more methodical testing.
I'm still freaked out by the way the launcher pops up every few minutes, though--has anyone else ever seen anything like that?
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One of my favorite rom and kernel combo's is infected eternity with anthrax but random reboots are common for me with any sense based rom. I run MIUI with whatever aosp kernel and everything is flawless. Other than experimenting with kernels to find battery life, MIUI is the most stable rom I have used so far and is my new daily driver!
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My evo also reboots and i havent rooted my phone at all. I did get a new SD card and that reduced the amounts of reboots i get! . Although, i still get a few every week.
hope sprint/person finds a fix for this soon.
Mine did it stock / rooted stock and viper ROM I an on fresh and so far smooth as butter ... Stock rooted was awful every time it would time out bam reboot
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Hi all,
I'm wondering if anyone can help me....I'm getting kind of desperate here! Basically my Atrix keeps randomly rebooting or getting stuck with the screen off (requiring a batter pull) . This happens about 10-20 times a day (my Atrix is far too unreliable right now to use as a daily). This seems to ONLY happen when on network (ie 2g/3g/hspa) and doesn't seem to happen on wifi. I can leave it on all night and day at home on wifi happily with no trouble but as soon as I go to work and leave it on network, the trouble starts. Its weird cause if the phone is doing something with the screen off (playing and streaming music over Bluetooth for example) it won't have any problems. Its only once I leave it at rest on the network that it turns into the most unreliable handset ever.
At first I thought it may be the neutrino rom I was running but I've since been using jokersax's amazing ics builds and the same problem persists. I did a full clean (format /data & /system plus cache and factory wipe ) and loaded on the latest beta build this morning, left it clean with zero apps except google (and xda!) and within an hour of getting to work the problem came back.
I am fully boot loader and network unlocked.
Please, if anyone has any idea I would be really grateful. I am tearing my hair out!
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It is happening with me too, but, I dont realize it on happen on mobile data connection
Since i flashed beta 0.1.0 2d of Jokersax's ICS and come out of home
Today, for 5 times I have to pull battery out of Atrix
Why not try a more stable ROM first and see if you get reboots.You do realize some phones just cannot handle unstable roms like the cm9 builds even though they are great for some ppl it just doesn't workout also maybe you are using an oc kernel that your phone cannot handle.I would check both things first.
Try some a bit more stable.
cm7 ba2ft
wetdream
darkside
gingermod
If you get the same with those then maybe fastboot wipe and stuff like that so you can clear everything out
EDIT: flash a radio too
sk8trix said:
Why not try a more stable ROM first and see if you get reboots.You do realize some phones just cannot handle unstable roms like the cm9 builds even though they are great for some ppl it just doesn't workout also maybe you are using an oc kernel that your phone cannot handle.I would check both things first.
Try some a bit more stable.
cm7 ba2ft
wetdream
darkside
gingermod
If you get the same with those then maybe fastboot wipe and stuff like that so you can clear everything out
EDIT: flash a radio too
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Hey,
Thanks, I'm going to try Gingerblur tonight... I had ruled that out as I have used darkside/gingerblur before and apart from the occasional reboot they were OK. The reboot was OK really, I know its a known issue with this model even with unrooted handsets, as long as its occasional and clean boots back to system again it doesn't really matter as I don't pin lock my sim (currently my problems are either a reboot every three minutes as soon as I switch the screen off... or, more commonly, the dead screen, needing that battery pull) .
I *suspect* that it may be the radio, but really need some solid advice on this because a couple of years ago I completely bricked my G1 by flashing the wrong radio and vowed never to touch radios again if I didn't have to....I am naturally very hesitant about radio flashing from that episode. Can anyone give me some decent advice on which radios i should be looking at for an unlocked ( but formerly Orange UK) Atrix? One very nervous owner here!
The other weird thing is that is perfectly fine when on a power source.
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Hey,
Thanks, I'm going to try Gingerblur tonight... I had ruled that out as I have used darkside/gingerblur before and apart from the occasional reboot they were OK. The reboot was OK really, I know its a known issue with this model even with unrooted handsets, as long as its occasional and clean boots back to system again it doesn't really matter as I don't pin lock my sim (currently my problems are either a reboot every three minutes as soon as I switch the screen off... or, more commonly, the dead screen, needing that battery pull) .
I *suspect* that it may be the radio, but really need some solid advice on this because a couple of years ago I completely bricked my G1 by flashing the wrong radio and vowed never to touch radios again if I didn't have to....I am naturally very hesitant about radio flashing from that episode. Can anyone give me some decent advice on which radios i should be looking at for an unlocked ( but formerly Orange UK) Atrix? One very nervous owner here!
The other weird thing is that is perfectly fine when on a power source.
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Hang on, I'm not making sense here, maybe it is these advanced ROMs, I was just surprised that neutrino (a cm7 based rom) also produced these reboot problems. Anyway, any advice on radios would be appreciated
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As long as you flash atrix radios only you should be okay. I flashed just about every applicable radio on my brother's captivate and never bricked it.
I agree with you and previous posters, it sounds like a radio issue for sure.
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I have the same problem with my Atrix running cm7 ba2ft. Sometimes it does not respond when you try to unlock, and I need to take out the battery to turn it on again. I bought the phone couple of weeks ago.
another thing to look at would be the battery my friend had similar problems with his nexus and tryed Roms and radios I bought him a new battery as a joke and the joke ended up on me cause he hasn't had the problem since let me know if this helped you aswell
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Same problem here. Very aggravating.
I am having the same problem. And I am 100% stock with no mods. I just installed OTA 2.3.6 so I am waiting to see if that helped.
Yeah, I'm really worried this is a hardware problem - I've been quiet these past couple of days testing the brand new GB radio and when that still had errors i then also tried the European one - the problem still persists. I have now downloaded every Atrix radio under the sun now so may try a few more...
This is quite frustrating as a) I really want to enjoy ICS as it really is a step up from previous versions of Android and b) I no longer have the option of selling this in its current state.
I'm also going to try a new battery as WikidClown suggested above, can't harm....I can pick up one on Amazon for less than a tenner.
One thing is for sure, I don't think I will be buying Moto hardware again!
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I am having the same problem. And I am 100% stock with no mods. I just installed OTA 2.3.6 so I am waiting to see if that helped.
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OK, so does anyone have any ideas? I have tested it using a load radios...and still nothing, it still randomly reboots. This is possibly the most unreliable handset I have ever owned
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Have you tried fastboot wipe? Maybe format internal SD and start fresh. Haven't had this issue just trying to help.
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jp2132 said:
Have you tried fastboot wipe? Maybe format internal SD and start fresh. Haven't had this issue just trying to help.
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I have formatted /system and /data etc between ROM changes, how would I do a fastboot wipe? I'm willing to try anything at this point!
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Actually, scratch that, I know exactly how to do that...except I can't boot into fastboot. Is this indicative of something wrong? Will I have to go back to SBF?
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I have formatted /system and /data etc between ROM changes, how would I do a fastboot wipe? I'm willing to try anything at this point!
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i baught my atrix used. everything was stock. still had multiple reboots and battery pulls daily. on cm9 they seem to happen less. and the battery pull only happened once. but i know the issue must still be there. might try my wifes battery. her atrix has rebooted maybe 5 times ever. 3 since this last official update (she is still lock stock and 2 smoking barrels)
OK, trying a new battery is my last hope...I did a fastboot wipe this morning and for an hour and a half it was all going so well...but then the reboot happened.
I'm getting a bit fed up with this pos hardware...I can't even sell this thing in this state.
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Anyone have any other experiences? I have confirmed that it isn't the battery...I bought a new batter and within 45 minutes it has rebooted once and done the screen off thing where it needs a battery pull. Complete crap.
One thing to note is that it does seem to get very warm on the back, although the internals ( behind the battery) don't seem so bad. Is there any way to keep the temp down aside from underclocking? All my roms have always been under clocked so I know that doesn't make any difference.
The other thing I might try is to use something like Noled so the phone isn't completely idle. Might drain the battery a bit unnecessarily though....why couldn't Moto have put in an amoled screen?
Anyway, will report back once I've tried it.
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I used to get tons of random reboots and then I was told to get the app called "Wake My Android Pro". Settings -> Test Activity -> Auto Startup, and Stop Activity checked. Weird settings, I know, technically with stop activity checked it doesn't do anything, but ever since then I don't experience random reboots. This was a few months ago when I was on just CM7. I've always installed this app when I get a new rom and I've tried Neutrino, Darkside, Alien, Aura, CM7, Wet Dream, and currently on joker's CM9 beta 1 build and RARELY experience random reboots. It went from once an hour to once a month now. I'm also on the .36p radio if that helps.
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I used to get tons of random reboots and then I was told to get the app called "Wake My Android Pro". Settings -> Test Activity -> Auto Startup, and Stop Activity checked. Weird settings, I know, technically with stop activity checked it doesn't do anything, but ever since then I don't experience random reboots. This was a few months ago when I was on just CM7. I've always installed this app when I get a new rom and I've tried Neutrino, Darkside, Alien, Aura, CM7, Wet Dream, and currently on joker's CM9 beta 1 build and RARELY experience random reboots. It went from once an hour to once a month now. I'm also on the .36p radio if that helps.
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Cheers, have downloaded and will report back. The most annoying thing about troubleshooting a problem like this is that there is no immediate 'it worked or 'it didn't work' ....it's just a waiting game! Thanks a lot though, really hope it does work (and thanks for replying, was starting to feel like I was answering threads to myself!). I have .36 radio installed already (I think, will check...it's the Brazilian one isn't it?) .
Just to check then...you have all the check boxes in wake my android ticked?
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I've only had this happen a few times and was wondering if anyone had this happen to them also. I'm rooted and run custom roms, it doesn't seem to be rom or kernel dependent.
For example, I had my phone on since noon and haven't really used it since then except a few times to check the time. I just pulled my phone out of my pocket and hit the power button... nothing. I held it down and it started to boot up. When this happens the battery is never dead (it was at 68% with the ext. battery this time), it just wants to turn itself off. It seems to happen when the phone is "sleeping", it's never done it when I'm actively using the phone so it's not an overheating issue.
It's not really annoying since it doesn't happen often, it just confuses me.
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I've only had this happen a few times and was wondering if anyone had this happen to them also. I'm rooted and run custom roms, it doesn't seem to be rom or kernel dependent.
For example, I had my phone on since noon and haven't really used it since then except a few times to check the time. I just pulled my phone out of my pocket and hit the power button... nothing. I held it down and it started to boot up. When this happens the battery is never dead (it was at 68% with the ext. battery this time), it just wants to turn itself off. It seems to happen when the phone is "sleeping", it's never done it when I'm actively using the phone so it's not an overheating issue.
It's not really annoying since it doesn't happen often, it just confuses me.
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still you might want to check the rom and kernel just in case, either re-flash or change.
if the problem still happens, use your warranty and get a new phone.
what rom, kernel, and recovery are you using?
I actually just happened earlier again. Got a text from a friend that she was here, so I went down and let her in, came back up and went to check my phone a few minutes later and it was off. WTF.
I'm currently using Nils newest business sense with the OC'd ICS kernel and the latest Amon Ra recovery. This used to happen on GB also so it's not a rom/kernel problem IMO.
It happens so sporadically (except for tonight apparently) that it's maybe happened 5 times since I got it on release day.
Maybe I have the governor in cpu master set too low? I have it at the lowest of 384 MHz, I've always wondered this: whats the difference between conservative and powersave?
did it happen while you were on stock GB or on a custom rom and kernel? maybe try relocking and running stock for a while and see what happens?
I honestly don't remember, it's been too long lol. It's not worth it to go back to stock and relock considering I like ICS too much.
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I actually just happened earlier again.
I'm currently using the OC'd ICS kernel
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that's the issue right there, run the stock kernel at stock speeds.
How could it be the ICS kernel when it's happened on GB also?
Which OC? I've read that the 1.8 causes random stuff like this, but 1.7 doesn't.
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3.0.16-g4a9c8a3 SebastianFM #1 is what the kernel info says
The zip name is Overclocked_kernel_v1.20_1836_MHz_by_sebastianFM.zip
Not all phones can handle overclocking.
Mine is stable about 98% of the time, it may actually be the extended battery that is causing the issue.
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Mine is stable about 98% of the time, it may actually be the extended battery that is causing the issue.
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9x out of 10 random reboots are from either undervolting too low or overclocking too high.
I went back to the stock kernel since it seemed to be a little choppy with the oc'd kernel. That may have been the problem after all.
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