Just a few questions guys:
I. I know bootloader is locked and all. But can you still root/are there good ROMs?
II. I see lots if ICS ROMs, are these legit or are they just themes. If so I'm curious, does it inlcude the touch keys? That'd be funky with 4 keys on the phone already xD.
III. How hard/easy is it to brick this phone?
IV. Overall, how's the Dev community? I have a Nexus and I'm not trying to compare but been on my 2nd GNexus already with no 4g in a strong 4g area (miami, florida) and I originally had a Razr Maxx but I traded it in for $35, starting to regret it, not for battery but for radios .
Thanks guys.
Go to droidrzr.com
The CDMA development is going strong over there. So far we have 3 different ICS roms as well as a few GB roms. The ICS roms do not have the touch screen buttons if that's what you're asking. Just the hard touch keys on the phone its self.
As for bricking.... I think we're pretty well safe as long as you follow the instructions for the roms you're installing. One thing you definitely need to download is the Droid razr utility. It can fastboot you back to .173 system if you mess up anything! As well as root you're phone, install bootstrap recovery, and perform many other functions.
CDMA development here is dead... Only GSM work going on here mostly.
ok thanks man
Anyone else, please share their experiences if you have tried the ICS ROMs.
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It seems that the forums are all so quite and there is no android development going on. Is there just no interest for this phone? If that's the case I nay go swap it for a thunderbolt.
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There is alot of interest I'm sure, just waiting for an unlocked bootloader so we can put custom recoveries on the phone, then we will be able to flash roms etc. For now we have root, but be careful you dont brick....there is no coming back
The fact that the original DX is getting CM on it shows that there's interest, it's just that working with newer Motorola phones is not easy by all accounts. There are folks who are trying, but I think it'll be a little while before we see the results. In the meantime, I've tried the Thunderbolt and it was just too much of a mess for me so I'll be patient.
I am a flash-0-holic and am used to having many options as a G1 owener. The Atrix is a much nicer phone but I am wondering if there will be a lot of custom roms developed for it. After reading many psts it almost seems like many users are happy with the stock moto rom with hotspot/tethering and root added. I am currently looking to buy a new phone but not without custom roms. I currently like the evo 3d, atrix 4g, moto photon but still waiting on custom rom devel and unlocked boot loader. Can anybody tell me how things are for Atrix users keeping in mind what I am used to with a G1
reading the dev forum for even 5 minutes will answer most of your questions
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I am a flash-0-holic and am used to having many options as a G1 owener. The Atrix is a much nicer phone but I am wondering if there will be a lot of custom roms developed for it. After reading many psts it almost seems like many users are happy with the stock moto rom with hotspot/tethering and root added. I am currently looking to buy a new phone but not without custom roms. I currently like the evo 3d, atrix 4g, moto photon but still waiting on custom rom devel and unlocked boot loader. Can anybody tell me how things are for Atrix users keeping in mind what I am used to with a G1
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The development has just begun. Unlocked BL was about a week ago. We're working on an international unlocked BL atm, but there is a guaranteed stable 2-int international being developed as we speak and that may yield international fruitfulness.
There are 6-8 quality developers who could have a full conversation in code who work on the atrix, and a lot of normal computer geeks who help out here and there (and make simple mods such as bootscreens and such).
It's definitely a great phone, I'm so glad I got it, and the dev community is great. I would recommend it.
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I am a flash-0-holic and am used to having many options as a G1 owener. The Atrix is a much nicer phone but I am wondering if there will be a lot of custom roms developed for it. After reading many psts it almost seems like many users are happy with the stock moto rom with hotspot/tethering and root added. I am currently looking to buy a new phone but not without custom roms. I currently like the evo 3d, atrix 4g, moto photon but still waiting on custom rom devel and unlocked boot loader. Can anybody tell me how things are for Atrix users keeping in mind what I am used to with a G1
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Yeah, I was wondering about this too. I'm in canada and thinking of getting a Bell atrix. Is the unlocked bootloader worth getting an ATT one? Does anyone know if Bell is going to unlock their atrices, I hear theres a gingerbread update due in august. If I use a custom ROM like CM7, will I lose webtop, or will i be able to install it again?
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Yeah, I was wondering about this too. I'm in canada and thinking of getting a Bell atrix. Is the unlocked bootloader worth getting an ATT one? Does anyone know if Bell is going to unlock their atrices, I hear theres a gingerbread update due in august. If I use a custom ROM like CM7, will I lose webtop, or will i be able to install it again?
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knowing that the ATT one is already unlocked why wouldnt u get one over the Bell if u had a choice...IJS
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knowing that the ATT one is already unlocked why wouldnt u get one over the Bell if u had a choice...IJS
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The bell ones are cheaper, don't have the ATT branding, and I would guess the radio software is different, but I"m not sure
I am no expert, I simply enjoy rooting pretty much everything I have relating to technology. Now, the Razr is an amazing phone, and BECAUSE its an amazing phone, I decided NOT to root it until a way to Unbrick became available. Well, that day came (A droidrzr dot come link), so of course, I rooted my Razr and installed the only rom I saw available for the VZW version. Here's the dilemma:
I am in no way making demands or trying to offend anyone, I simply have a question: Are there more ROMS coming out for the RAZR? I have seen all of the mods in these forums, I just have no need for them. I ask because the day my Evo 3D became 'rootable', about 4 or 5 ROMS rolled out right pretty much within hours, and while we DO have a custom ROM for the RAZR, umm...that's it. I appreciate the ROM, I have it installed, but supposedly the big deal was that there was no way to recover from an unbricked RAZR, and now there is, yet there's really no activity in the DEV section aside from people arguing about the locked bootloader.
Maybe I'm just ignorant and the fastboot files don't provide any help at all. I'll attribute that to what I said at the beginning, that I'm not an expert. I was just hoping someone could clarify because I literally check this forum twice a day hoping to see [ROM] at the beginning of a post and [CDMA] right next to it.
Thank you beforehand for any help or clarification!
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I am no expert, I simply enjoy rooting pretty much everything I have relating to technology. Now, the Razr is an amazing phone, and BECAUSE its an amazing phone, I decided NOT to root it until a way to Unbrick became available. Well, that day came (A droidrzr dot come link), so of course, I rooted my Razr and installed the only rom I saw available for the VZW version. Here's the dilemma:
I am in no way making demands or trying to offend anyone, I simply have a question: Are there more ROMS coming out for the RAZR? I have seen all of the mods in these forums, I just have no need for them. I ask because the day my Evo 3D became 'rootable', about 4 or 5 ROMS rolled out right pretty much within hours, and while we DO have a custom ROM for the RAZR, umm...that's it. I appreciate the ROM, I have it installed, but supposedly the big deal was that there was no way to recover from an unbricked RAZR, and now there is, yet there's really no activity in the DEV section aside from people arguing about the locked bootloader.
Maybe I'm just ignorant and the fastboot files don't provide any help at all. I'll attribute that to what I said at the beginning, that I'm not an expert. I was just hoping someone could clarify because I literally check this forum twice a day hoping to see [ROM] at the beginning of a post and [CDMA] right next to it.
Thank you beforehand for any help or clarification!
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easy answer
there's no real need of completely modded roms, and roms wich went out, are more optimization roms...
and... ics is on the way, think is a little useless, start thinking of making entire projects on gingerbread, knowing in a month we are going on a really different android version
True, true...but wasn't the ICS source/code already released? Or does it depend from device to device?
I cant see what there is to gain by unlocking and installing a rom that only works on an unlocked phone. Why should I give up 4g? Wish I knew how to make my own rom.
Questions should be in Q&A or general, but to answer your question, not everyone lives in a wimax area so what is the point of 4g when there is no signal to use?
^ this. I'll probably need someone to change my diapers for me by the time sprint has 4g in my area. Oops tmi?
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a good sprint locked rom would prolly be a good idea actually since a lot of new users prolly gunna end up with this 2.3.5 bootloader and even later as sprint moves to ics
Whats wrong with mine? Im the only one actually works on them and it seems people dont appreciate them thats why I dont put more time to them
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I live in a 4g area and sprints 4g isn't good anyway so long live the unlocked roms! I mean if you stand in the middle of the street and don't move then it's awesome.
I like yours rocko...have tried them all but the most stable is 2.4..on it now. Tried the 3.5 but it does not have 4g for sprint.
Keep up the good work
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I like yours rocko...have tried them all but the most stable is 2.4..on it now. Tried the 3.5 but it does not have 4g for sprint.
Keep up the good work
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Ill work on that sprint leaked one have a couple testers probably 2night
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I cant see what there is to gain by unlocking and installing a rom that only works on an unlocked phone. Why should I give up 4g? Wish I knew how to make my own rom.
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Since I also live in a 4g area I'm not willing to give up my 4g by staying perm unlocked. Ive been reading and learning and am testing a locked rom just adding the tweaks hope to be ready in a few days.
I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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Whats wrong with mine? Im the only one actually works on them and it seems people dont appreciate them thats why I dont put more time to them
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i can honestly say ive never flashed any of your roms. right now my ideal one would be the 2.3.5 with fixed hdmi.. with that id be happy :/
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I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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you need to look up what open is, as it stands htcs "unlock is getting more and more locked down
I understand what you mean about htc being more locked down...that is why htc was second in my choices of my next phone. But I know that whatever man can lock down can be unlocked. It just take the desire too do it. If I was more of a developer and more advanced in this particular field I could spend more time working on it. But I am still learning and trying to figure it all out.
But thanks for your observations, and you developmental skills. We all appreciate it.
Back to the subject... what advantages do an unlocked bootloader with no 4G have over a locked bootloader with 4G.. rocko's rom is pretty nice and extremely smooth and he achieved that with a locked bootloader. Why flash a gingerbread rom that's made for an unlocked bootloader... I can kinda understand the purpose for an ICS rom because of its custom drivers
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Back to the subject... what advantages do an unlocked bootloader with no 4G have over a locked bootloader with 4G.. rocko's rom is pretty nice and extremely smooth and he achieved that with a locked bootloader. Why flash a gingerbread rom that's made for an unlocked bootloader... I can kinda understand the purpose for an ICS rom because of its custom drivers
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In the defense of unlocking, I don't remember when was the last time I wasn't on a ICS base rom. I have full 4g in my area and everywhere I have to go to work. but I like customizability and choices. sprint 3g is fast as **** here so I don't miss 4g at all. I don't think I've even run a kernel that can't be overclocked to 1.4 in a while also... so, I stay unlocked. Also, Rocko's roms are sweet.. locked or unlocked thanks for all the hard work...
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I dont live in a 4g area, but most of my daylight time is in a 4g area and I use it. Lets face it! We have to pay for it. It should work. There is no way to compromise for me to give up 4g for some of the custom roms out there. I had an Evo before my Photon and I will say that when the time comes I will ditch this Photon and get a Samsung or HTC phone. Shame on Motorola for locking down their phones. Even the company I work for has given up on motorola and went to other radio manufacturers. It just seem there are more people developing on HTC and Samsung for the very reason that they are "OPEN" and not locked down.
Just my 2 cents...
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I plan to ditch my Photon in a couple of weeks for an HTC One but I fully expect it to be locked down after HTC locked down the One for ATT. Im not real sure how I feel about that but the bottom line is I hate this phone. Its laggy, the screen sucks for gaming.. its a great PHONE but its a lousy smart device.
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I plan to ditch my Photon in a couple of weeks for an HTC One but I fully expect it to be locked down after HTC locked down the One for ATT. Im not real sure how I feel about that but the bottom line is I hate this phone. Its laggy, the screen sucks for gaming.. its a great PHONE but its a lousy smart device.
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I'll give ya $100 for it right now.
CCallahan said:
I'll give ya $100 for it right now.
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I have an Otterbox Defender that needs to go with it. If you want to adjust the price a little, we can make it happen. You can check my feedback on Ebay if you want and Ill give you my contact info.. Im a straight shooter. Id even be willing to go back to my OG Epic 4G just to get rid of this thing.
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Whats wrong with mine? Im the only one actually works on them and it seems people dont appreciate them thats why I dont put more time to them
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Rocko,
Your Blur build is what i use when i need to go back to blur Great build! Id run it as my daily, but im a CM addict.
To the OP,
its all in the name of "bc they can." 4G(WIMAX) for me is over rated, 3G downloads emails and all that jazz plenty fast enough. id rather have the latest software then 4G, and ive been glued to CM since my EVO.
MadFlava,
screen sucks for gaming... Solitaire works great on my photon ha ha obviously im not a big gamer. I dont plan to make a move to a different phone unless the devs move. Ill follow them
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(if this affects my chances of ever getting dev status I'm not sure if I care as I've been waiting for almost a year)
Almost every day there's a "I can't find it" thread or post for a file that I personally hosted. Where can these files be found? In a STICKIED thread that I try to maintain and keep up to date. This leads me to believe that the money spent hosting and the work involved in the stickied thread is ignored and unappreciated by many.
People are still flashing 2.3.5electrify pudding on photons after it has been said many times "don't do it". Again this goes back to the previous paragraph. I'm now to the point that if you bork your phone considering that the information is obviously available, you deserve it.
Nobody is developing for locked? Since when? There's three locked ROM's/mods that I know of right now without looking. Rocko Locked to start, which I have said is a bloody good ROM for those that want eyecandy. Imperium Locked is for those that want a barebones ROM that was updated less than a week ago. Here's a surprise for folks. The Deblur/Debloat Script is an ODEXED version of Imperium Locked without the theme change! How many Locked ROMs do you want, or is it that reading and searching are to much of a bother.
Other annoying things are "I don't like the way it looks" complaints and the general lack of "thanks" or support. If you don't like the way a ROM looks then flash a theme. That's what they are there for. If you can't be bothered to flash a theme (and don't say there are none) then don't flash anything. Developing takes effort, time and money. If you are not developing, hitting the "thanks" button or donating then you are leeching, plain and simple.
Also. Why is this thread in the development section? I don't see any development work posted.
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Photon Locked vs unlocked;
Locked ROMs give you the benefit of being very close to the stock base in many cases. Things like PRL and profile updates work and in some cases you can choose to accept an OTA update with little to no issues. You also loose fewer stock features with locked like 4G. The drawback is that battery life is shorter, it runs slower and fine tuning is almost impossible.
Unlocked ROM's give you more choice and greater flexibility with things like full themes, kernels and overclocking/undervolting. It then becomes a choice of need vs want. My daily is my own ROM that is underclocked to 750MhZ single core and NOT undervolted. With the tuning of profiles, my battery fall off is 1% every three hours, video playback is around six hours and during a call my phone never breaks 456MhZ. In short, battery life is insane with a standby mode of 10 days before I get a low battery prompt. This cannot be done with locked. The only thing I loose is 4G but considering the impact 4G has on battery life I can actually transfer more data than if I did have 4G just at a slower rate.
If LTE proves to be more battery friendly then I may change my position but for now I personally choose flexibility and the ability to fine tune over 4G any day.
The DeBlur tool is awesome. I just had to flash back because Im going to participate in the SOAK if I get chosen. Everyone should run the DeBlur tool.
I received my Razr today and I can't explain how much of a relief it is to own a half way decent phone. I was using the Thunderbolt and I can't begin to vent my frustration for that crappy device...
Anyway, I had some questions because I've noticed a few things that are slightly different in this device section on these forums... Hopefully some of you can clear the air.
1. I see there are some GSM and CDMA ROM's, so I am guessing the Razr isn't just for Verizon?
2. Is there anything I have to do prior to rooting my device? I heard the bootloader use to be locked and it required a lot of effort to get around it... I'm not sure if this is still the case or if someone has made a simple exploit to go around the loader.
3. What is the most popular method of rooting this device today? I see the EternityProject EasyRootICS 1.5 has a lot of views, would this be a good recommendation for rooting?
4. Sort of related to my last question, but I read awhile ago that the bootloader was unlocked but only one core worked. Is this still the case?
5. I looked for JB ROM's for the phone but I don't see any. Is there any other forums that have a JB CDMA XT912 ROM?
6. What else should I expect when it comes to rooting this device?
THANKS in advance!
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I received my Razr today and I can't explain how much of a relief it is to own a half way decent phone. I was using the Thunderbolt and I can't begin to vent my frustration for that crappy device...
Anyway, I had some questions because I've noticed a few things that are slightly different in this device section on these forums... Hopefully some of you can clear the air.
1. I see there are some GSM and CDMA ROM's, so I am guessing the Razr isn't just for Verizon?
2. Is there anything I have to do prior to rooting my device? I heard the bootloader use to be locked and it required a lot of effort to get around it... I'm not sure if this is still the case or if someone has made a simple exploit to go around the loader.
3. What is the most popular method of rooting this device today? I see the EternityProject EasyRootICS 1.5 has a lot of views, would this be a good recommendation for rooting?
4. Sort of related to my last question, but I read awhile ago that the bootloader was unlocked but only one core worked. Is this still the case?
5. I looked for JB ROM's for the phone but I don't see any. Is there any other forums that have a JB CDMA XT912 ROM?
6. What else should I expect when it comes to rooting this device?
THANKS in advance!
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1. CDMA is for Verizon, GSM is for all the others.
2. Yes, the bootloader it locked, and as far as I'm aware, it still hasn't been able to be unlocked. It is very easy to root the device, actually. There are many threads with many different methods of rooting. Just search for them.
3. If it works, it works!
4. Not sure, I haven't heard that. But I could be wrong.
5. I have searched far and wide as well (including off of XDA) and haven't been able to find any stable ones suited for everyday use.
6. Not sure what you mean by this, but rooting unlocks many new features of this device that really help to unleash its full potential.
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