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Hi all,
We all know that rSAP is not supported by Android
Those with carkits (VW, Audi, etc) with this profile cannot use their Android phone. A massive disappointment.
What will it take to get someone write some code to get this bluetooth profile to work on - for starters - the basic Froyo code for Nexus?
I'd be happy to kick off a project with a $150 donation or an HTC Hero (such as for testing).
Assuming we can get more people together who are interested in this (I am positive!), the big question remains - who would be able to write the required code?
MC
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We need rSAP
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In Android issue 4402 (not permitted to post outside links, just go to the google code page and search for 4402) about the rSap profile some people are reporting that the Samsung Galaxy S (I9000) does have the rSap profile and does successfully connect to VW/Audi premium carkits.
In the Galaxy S forums are some roms (including a MCR rom for the Galaxy S) ... so there might be some possibility to port some code from the Galaxy S to the Nexus One
TFox said:
In Android issue 4402 (not permitted to post outside links, just go to the google code page and search for 4402) about the rSap profile some people are reporting that the Samsung Galaxy S (I9000) does have the rSap profile and does successfully connect to VW/Audi premium carkits.
In the Galaxy S forums are some roms (including a MCR rom for the Galaxy S) ... so there might be some possibility to port some code from the Galaxy S to the Nexus One
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Thanks, I found it and repeated my post there as well.
I really hope that someone can come up with something. Surely, as you say it works on the Galaxy S, one must be able to get this to work on the Nexus One, or any other Android phone for that matter.
Hoping to see some more replies here! Or maybe a recommendation of a programmer who might be able to do this.
Cheers, MC
Hi, I have the RSAP working on an Samsung galaxy i9000 wich my Audi built in car phone. The only hing bugging is the sync of phonebok. It synces alright, but with phone conacts only. It took me a while to realize that phone conacts and my primarily used exchange contact list are two different things in this setting. First I had believed it synces only sim contacts. While this is not the problem, I have not found a way yet to "replicate" the synced exchange contacts or map them to the phone phonebok from business contacts, wich would make them visible to the carphone via rSAP.
maybe someone here knows a solution or an app that would solve this? The rSAP itself works, as Samsung has implemented it into the Galaxy i9000.
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I will exceed the OP's donation and donate $151 who ever manages to crack the rSAP on Android. Samsing just made the sourcecode (search: Samsung releases Captivate source code) so there seems to also be a ZIP file for the GT-I9000 (European Samsung Galaxy S).
I am stuck with TouchHD for my VW PremiumGSM, and would love to get an Android.
Cheers and keep it up devs!!
+1!
plz, an app for rsap on n1!
Android on GSM... maybe, but limited; CDMA not likely
According to a post 4402, "rSAP allows different devices to connect to your mobile's SIM Card to read your contacts etc. The car than uses its own antenna and gsm Module to call. The mobile phone goes in a stand by mode which needs very low energy."
If this is true, then your rSAP-bluetooth connection is actually hijacking your sim card ID and using it to place calls and receive calls through the car's integrated GSM radio, and not actually synching as it seems. In this case (in the US), there is no Verizon or Sprint fix because neither network uses SIM card (chip based ID profiles) technology, and furthermore, both their networks are CDMA and therefore incompatible with Bentley, VW and Audi GSM modules. If the connection could be bridged, the car's GSM radio would be seeking access to a network the CDMA user is not subscribed to.
So the definitive end is that as long as you have a VAG auto, you better have an rSAP GSM phone to use with it.
Ironically, Apple iPhones are GSM and they have had a longstanding good relationship with VAG, so I am surprised to find them boxed out of compatibility with Audi and VW especially. I am not certain, but it could have something to do with Apple's unique provisioning architecture is as much as they do not have a readily accessible SIM card (or battery), and in doing so, they are not respecting the need for SIM portability.
When I worked at a multi-carrier mobile phone reseller years ago, I briefly had a SIM-card based phone that I could then take the SIM card from and insert it into any GSM phone (from the same carrier) and use that phone to place and receive calls. This same migration can be effected in CDMA technology, but only through over-the-air provisioning, and that process is not as immediate as the rSAP SIM takeover process seems to be.
I'll keep looking into this matter, but perhaps the upgrade we should be barking for is to have VAG integrate support for the same bluetooth profile (HFP) that BMW does. BMWs from 2007 on with bluetooth will connect to my Droid X all day. rSAP just overtakes your SIM id and uses it to place and receive calls on the car's GSM radio. Of course it also can access a portion of your Address Book, but after that, you are stuck with the features offered in your car's radio and no longer have full utility of your Droid phone features and apps, etc. As a result, Google Voice search will be a non-starter for Android rSAP unless the car's GSM radio is actually running Android OS as well. And how likely is that...
maybe this could help?
http://allforfreelancers.com/getafr...Android-iPhone-J2ME-Nokia-Symbian-726296.html
Rsap works..but no Bluetooth audio
Hi,
I got my I9000 working on my Premium Bluetooth in my VW Passat. However I cannot figure out how to get the Bluetooth Audio (in the Media Secion of the car display) working. I have enabled it in settings in the car. AUX works, SD-card works.. but bluetooth audio I just cannot figure out.
Does any1 know?
I have a NTG1 Comand in my Mercedes, and the rSAP conection works like charme, with the SGS(2.2.1 jpy).
Only thing that not works is the PBAP so only my sim card contacs r listed!
Mike
tommylad said:
Hi,
I got my I9000 working on my Premium Bluetooth in my VW Passat. However I cannot figure out how to get the Bluetooth Audio (in the Media Secion of the car display) working. I have enabled it in settings in the car. AUX works, SD-card works.. but bluetooth audio I just cannot figure out.
Does any1 know?
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Hi, Bluetooth Audio works exactly as it works with bluetooth headset: you need to launch a music player on the phone and then the audio will be transfered to your car's speakers. I just got my new VW Touran and SGS works almost fine with it (having troubles with the contacts with emails, which are not synced to the car). I think I'm going to get an SDHC card for my music (Media-IN works great with a usb drive).
Cheers
Okay this is what I've been wondering...is there anyway to use an Android phone as a bluetooth headset for the Galaxy Tab (or any Android tablet for that matter)? im planning on getting T-Mobile's prepaid Android 2.2 phone and i want to keep my minute usage down by using Google Voice on the tablet. And since they both have bluetooth capabilities it should be possible to use it in this manner, right? I do not want to use one of those hideous, uncomfortable bluetooth headsets because im already going to have a bluetooth device (the phone) with me that im more comfortable using. Is there any way to do this or an app that enables this functionality?
Isn't that like call forwarding or something?
no because your not forwarding your calls, your handling the call over bluetooth. this is what im talking about: people will call my tablet's Google Voice number, and I will be able to use my phone as a bluetooth headset for the tablet to take the call
its the same concept as bluetooth headsets today:
-you get a bluetooth headset
-you pair the headset with your phone
-you take calls on your phone but talk and listen through your bluetooth headset
the way im trying to do this is:
-you get a bluetooth-capable phone
-you pair the phone with your tablet
-you take calls on your tablet but talk and listen through your bluetooth phone
since the phone already has everything that a bluetooth headset has--microphone, earpiece, bluetooth radio-- it should be able to pair with the tablet and work in the same manner as a regular bluetooth headset
yes!
Im looking thos for months my friend. But no one seems to know anything. We are talkin for clever and serius programming so it is not so easy to find sonething.
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I have been looking to do the same thing with my Samsung tab. Instead of walking around stucked to my face.
Yes I could use a BT headset, but it won't dial out. There is a specific Bluetooth profile to do this.
i don't know much about this, but wouldn't the phone would need the bluetooth protocol that a headset uses? someone would have to make a program that would allow the phone to be used as a headset, but then also decide what gets priority if the phone needs to also access the mic or earpiece when you are on a call...
i don't mind simply using a bluetooth - that is more comfortable and flexible than me holding a phone in one hand.
I am seekung solution too.
I'm looking for a solution to this as well. But a different application.
using a tablet as a car-computer.
leave phone in pocket. take and view phone calls though tablet, which is mounted to dash, which is routed to the car audio system with strategically placed microphone built into dash.
I'm surprised no one has made this... seems like something many would be after.
looking for the same here :-(
I want to buy a cheap tablet to leave in the car and use as a gps.
I'd like it to being able to be connected to my phone and work as a bluetooth hands free of sorts.
anyone has 2 android devices to try and connected and see what happens?
Me too - so i'm posting here to show that there is really demand for solution
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The Phone app apk is there but it doesn't work Honeycomb, Google Voice also FCs. I think it's because Google knows it would take away from the Android Phones and that would piss off the carriers.
Why should it take people away from carriers? Me want to use my communicator as phone №2, so i could not take from my pocket the first one.
Yuna said:
Why should it take people away from carriers? Me want to use my communicator as phone №2, so i could not take from my pocket the first one.
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Because you could Google Voice, Skype, etc for a lot cheaper than a carrier.
same same, would be great solution to using tab as a phone
What we are seeking is the Bluetooth HFP (Hands-Free Protocol) (ver. 1.5) HF Profile. Many newer OEM car head-units support the HFP hands-free (HF) mode while most all Android devices and tablets support the audio gateway (AG) mode only.
I am not a developer but I would suspect that getting the AG portion of HFP to work would require changes to the BT drivers. If anyone has the HF mode working on an Android device, please chime in!
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What we are seeking is the Bluetooth HFP (Hands-Free Protocol) (ver. 1.5) HF Profile. Many newer OEM car head-units support the HFP hands-free (HF) mode while most all Android devices and tablets support the audio gateway (AG) mode only.
I am not a developer but I would suspect that getting the AG portion of HFP to work would require changes to the BT drivers. If anyone has the HF mode working on an Android device, please chime in!
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Do any devs have ideas? This would make tons of tablet owners happy. In an ideal world, we would be able to keep an Android phone in our pocket, and send/receive texts on the tablet through our phone carrier, as well as make and receive calls using our tablets as a Bluetooth speaker phone. This marriage of tablet to phone would be awesome, and generate a lot of money and interest in the app market.
Does anyone know if there has been any progress on using a phone as a bluetooth headset for a tablet? I am trying to figure out how to do this with a samsung galaxy gio and a samsung galaxy tab 7.
junglizste said:
I'm looking for a solution to this as well. But a different application.
using a tablet as a car-computer.
leave phone in pocket. take and view phone calls though tablet, which is mounted to dash, which is routed to the car audio system with strategically placed microphone built into dash.
I'm surprised no one has made this... seems like something many would be after.
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This is the exact solution I am looking for! Come on developers of the world, how hard can it be!
So is the problem with this that Android doesn't support the necessary profiles in its bluetooth stack? Is there any way to add the profiles ourselves?
It would be nice if a developer would look into this.
Hi fellow android friends,
I have an older car with a big radio slot. I thought about integrating an android tablet there and connect it to the car stereo, but I have some questions if some features would be possible.
Basically I want to pair my phone to the tablet via bluetooth to mainly stream music to it. But I also want navigation (Google Maps) which I could simply use by creating a hotspot from my phone automatically when it's connected via bluetooth to the tablet. Also I want Call integration. So that I can start, answer and end calls I get on my phone from my tablet. I would set up a microphone in the car for better quality.
Is this possible? If so, how? With specific apps? Or flashing Android Auto somehow to the tablet?
So I have a tablet (with data) that I use in my car as a media hub connected via Bluetooth using this device. Now, one of the problems I've run into with this setup is that I can not answer phone calls because my tablet is paired to the bluetooth and my phone isn't. So, I was wondering if there is an app that allows handing off/transferring phone calls from an Android phone to an Android tablet? The only thing I've discovered is that Samsung has this built into their phones/tablets via an called SideSync. For that reason, I've considering switching my phone and tablet to Samsung version, but would really prefer not to do that if I don't have to. I also do not want to get a new number and forward my calls to it when driving.
Hello,
I would like to know if there is an application that allows you to make bluetooth calls from a tablet connected to a smartphone:
- call
- access contacts
- reply
On an Android Head Unit it works so technically it is possible, but I have searched and I can not find anything.
Thank you