Related
So I've been patiently waiting for income tax money to get a new tablet, been reading a lot between the tf101 and the tf201 and I want a tablet that will have good development, I know the prime is too new and it has his fair share of issues including wifi and GPS, I can care less about GPS but I need wifi so as long as I can get a decent wifi signal so I can seat in my couch or my bed and pickup my wifi I'll be good, now the light bleeding from what the videos I've seen on YouTube wouldn't be a big problem but I don't know if I would be able to deal with dead pixels, now to my question , is there anyone that upgraded to the prime from the transformer and do you feel like it was a mayor upgrade or do you think the original is still a mayor contender? Is a $100 difference so is not that much of a difference in price, but from reading how Asus might have released it prematurely makes me wonder if I should go for the older more stable with more development transformer tf101.
Sent from my CM9 NexusHD2
The Tegra 2 in the original is ancient. Considering how fast the mobile market moves, it is like buying a Pentium 4 for a new desktop. The Tegra 3 is three times as fast between the CPU/GPU- ready for 2012.
With that said, with a Prime you go in expecting to deal with a dead GPS and weak wifi range. It is the trade-off for a modern amount of power.
My only personal issue was slower wifi in my bedroom (the edge of my network), but I love my Prime so much my solution was just to upgrade my router (Cisco e4200, best 2.4GHz consumer router on the market). Now it works great.
poofyhairguy said:
The Tegra 2 in the original is ancient. Considering how fast the mobile market moves, it is like buying a Pentium 4 for a new desktop. The Tegra 3 is three times as fast between the CPU/GPU- ready for 2012.
With that said, with a Prime you go in expecting to deal with a dead GPS and weak wifi range. It is the trade-off for a modern amount of power.
My only personal issue was slower wifi in my bedroom (the edge of my network), but I love my Prime so much my solution was just to upgrade my router (Cisco e4200, best 2.4GHz consumer router on the market). Now it works great.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the reply! I'm probably getting it and if those are my only issues(wifi/GPS) then everything will be great, just hope the development here will grow soon and increase the choices of roms and stuff.
Sent from my CM9 NexusHD2
i understand your concern. i bought mine less than two weeks ago from best buy with my income tax. trust me spend the money. its worth it. maybe even spring for an extended warranty.
1SiK1500 said:
i understand your concern. i bought mine less than two weeks ago from best buy with my income tax. trust me spend the money. its worth it. maybe even spring for an extended warranty.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the extended warranty sounds like a good idea, thanks.
Sent from my CM9 NexusHD2
I'd say the OG TF101 has much faster WiFi speed as range from the access point increases, the Prime is thinner and lighter, and can be purchased with higher storage capacity.
If WiFi speed is the most important get a OG. If GPS is the most important get neither IMHO but def' not the Prime.
I would personally say getting a Tegra 2 now, would be like getting a Core 2 Duo instead of an Core i[357]. Now the Wayne and Grey based Tegra chips expected later this year....those will make a Tegra 2 look like a Pentium 4 versus an i7, if wikipedia is to be believed.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
Spidey01 said:
I'd say the OG TF101 has much faster WiFi speed as range from the access point increases, the Prime is thinner and lighter, and can be purchased with higher storage capacity.
If WiFi speed is the most important get a OG. If GPS is the most important get neither IMHO but def' not the Prime.
I would personally say getting a Tegra 2 now, would be like getting a Core 2 Duo instead of an Core i[357]. Now the Wayne and Grey based Tegra chips expected later this year....those will make a Tegra 2 look like a Pentium 4 versus an i7, if wikipedia is to be believed.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I see what your saying, and I don't care about GPS, I just want to make sure I get a somewhat solid tablet, as long as I can get wifi from like 5 feet from my router in my living room I won't complain, and I guess the other issues with light bleed and dead pixels is all luck, and there's rooting and recovery here for it, wish there was some custom honeycomb roms to play with like the revolver or krakd roms for the tf101, hopefully we'll see some development picking up for the prime soon, gonna see about swinging by best buy and testing one out while I wait for my tax money so I can just go buy the one I decide to go for when the money comes.
Sent from my CM9 NexusHD2
While some say GPS is no big deal, look at the amount of whining about it. I want it for alot of reasons. It automatically updates weather to the location, etc.
I purchased mine Less than two weeks ago from Best Buy. I have NO GPS at all. mine is a BCOKAS134452 serial number. My wifi isnt that bad actualy but i feel it is lacking when compared to my rooted nook color. I will try to open mine tonight and make one mod to see if it improves, if not, it goes back tomorrow.
Im not going to exchange it. Im going to return it receive my FULL refund. Then Re-purchase another unit so i have ANOTHER 2 weeks, incase there are issues.
While some may not find this right. I have noticed some people have major issues 3 or 4 weeks after purchase. That is what worries me. Just my .02$
Now you know about some of the issues affecting some users. Now check out the link in my signature. The positive transformer thread. That'll put things into perspective. GPS is a widespread issue although some peoples do work. As far as wifi, this a very limited issue. Just check out the link n the vast number of different users posted in there n you will see a flipside. Which is what I'm on..lol wifi works great on mines
demandarin said:
Now you know about some of the issues affecting some users. Now check out the link in my signature. The positive transformer thread. That'll put things into perspective. GPS is a widespread issue although some peoples do work. As far as wifi, this a very limited issue. Just check out the link n the vast number of different users posted in there n you will see a flipside. Which is what I'm on..lol wifi works great on mines
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks it looks like there's a lot of people very happy with theirs in that thread, definitely looking forward to having one.
Sent from my CM9 NexusHD2
roloracer said:
I see what your saying, and I don't care about GPS, I just want to make sure I get a somewhat solid tablet, as long as I can get wifi from like 5 feet from my router in my living room I won't complain, and I guess the other issues with light bleed and dead pixels is all luck, and there's rooting and recovery here for it, wish there was some custom honeycomb roms to play with like the revolver or krakd roms for the tf101, hopefully we'll see some development picking up for the prime soon, gonna see about swinging by best buy and testing one out while I wait for my tax money so I can just go buy the one I decide to go for when the money comes.
Sent from my CM9 NexusHD2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
IMHO light bleed and dead pixels are a quality control and shipping issue. It's also the most common ground for trouble between both tablets.
One thing that alarmed me... while my TF101 fresh out of Microcenter was great: my Prime off eBay had a batch of wtfixels on the far left side and I was afraid that I may have to RMA. By the time I completed the initial setup stuff with my Google Account it went away and the pixels are fine in use.
I do consider the TF101 a better quality tablet but really, unless you do have hair pulling issues with wifi/gps, Prime is fine. I also think the sites more or less calling the Prime like the top or the most powerful tablet of the year are also correct enough. It just doesn't have a deluded cult preaching it's perfection.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
Spidey01 said:
IMHO light bleed and dead pixels are a quality control and shipping issue. It's also the most common ground for trouble between both tablets.
One thing that alarmed me... while my TF101 fresh out of Microcenter was great: my Prime off eBay had a batch of wtfixels on the far left side and I was afraid that I may have to RMA. By the time I completed the initial setup stuff with my Google Account it went away and the pixels are fine in use.
I do consider the TF101 a better quality tablet but really, unless you do have hair pulling issues with wifi/gps, Prime is fine. I also think the sites more or less calling the Prime like the top or the most powerful tablet of the year are also correct enough. It just doesn't have a deluded cult preaching it's perfection.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your input, I had originally thought about the tf101 because of how good is said to be for the price, but I changed my mind thanks to all of you guys and also from browsing thru the positive thread, I'm definitely getting the prime, can't wait for the income tax money to get here, it should be about another week.
Sent from my CM9 NexusHD2
Transformer prime is way better than the original transformer
Go for tf-201
So I'm still waiting for my tax money that should be here by the end of this week, by now I'm disappointed to say no prime for me, I've spend lots of time in the background here just reading negative posts and searching online and reading about rumors of discontinuation of the prime, whether is true or not, I think I'm gonna be patient and wait a bit to see what happens in the next couple of months, Acer is said to be the next one to have a tegra3 tablet, who knows who else throws one out next, and hopefully the tf700 doesn't take too long, oh well as much as is killing me to buy a tablet, I don't want to go backwards to the tf101 to feel I got a solid tablet, I want to feel about a tablet like I feel about my HTC hd2 , that is a solid device. I guess well see.
Sent from my CM9 NexusHD2
jassari said:
Transformer prime is way better than the original transformer
Go for tf-201
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1....ATP RULES...see decline prices on ipad 2, no match for ATP.
roloracer said:
So I'm still waiting for my tax money that should be here by the end of this week, by now I'm disappointed to say no prime for me, I've spend lots of time in the background here just reading negative posts and searching online and reading about rumors of discontinuation of the prime, whether is true or not, I think I'm gonna be patient and wait a bit to see what happens in the next couple of months, Acer is said to be the next one to have a tegra3 tablet, who knows who else throws one out next, and hopefully the tf700 doesn't take too long, oh well as much as is killing me to buy a tablet, I don't want to go backwards to the tf101 to feel I got a solid tablet, I want to feel about a tablet like I feel about my HTC hd2 , that is a solid device. I guess well see.
Sent from my CM9 NexusHD2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's the thing bro....while you're waiting, buy a prime to play with. Most likely you will love it and keep it but guess what if you don't like it you can just return it like so many people have or are at least threatening to. At least you have something to do while you wait. That's my opinion but instead of the buzz kill threads just man up and go buy one see how great it is.
ryanbmw51 said:
Here's the thing bro....while you're waiting, buy a prime to play with. Most likely you will love it and keep it but guess what if you don't like it you can just return it like so many people have or are at least threatening to. At least you have something to do while you wait. That's my opinion but instead of the buzz kill threads just man up and go buy one see how great it is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Totally agree. You can doo eeet!
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
roloracer said:
the extended warranty sounds like a good idea, thanks.
Sent from my CM9 NexusHD2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I read an article stating that less than 5% of extended warranties are ever used. Something to think about.
GPS is NOT a feature of the Transformer Prime. Anyone who brings it up anymore are doing so because it was a feature, but they bring it up because it was then removed. You don't buy a tablet for gps, you buy a gps. The GPS module and antenna are crap in the Prime. You would crap get signal and accuracy even if it did work properly.
For example, you don't buy a PS3 anymore for the ability to install Linux or PS2 backwards compatibility. Why? They removed those features.
Thee major problem of the weak wifi is the fact that one of the antennas is not actually connected properly in some of the old and new Primes. This is a reason to not buy the Prime.
slayvus said:
GPS is NOT a feature of the Transformer Prime. Anyone who brings it up anymore are doing so because it was a feature, but they bring it up because it was then removed. You don't buy a tablet for gps, you buy a gps. The GPS module and antenna are crap in the Prime. You would crap get signal and accuracy even if it did work properly.
For example, you don't buy a PS3 anymore for the ability to install Linux or PS2 backwards compatibility. Why? They removed those features.
Thee major problem of the weak wifi is the fact that one of the antennas is not actually connected properly in some of the old and new Primes. This is a reason to not buy the Prime.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's why I said in OP that I could care less about GPS working, but wifi is a big thing for me.
My money came into my account yesterday, not sure but I might pick one up from best buy, play with it and decide what to do before the 14 day return period ends.
Sent from my CM9 NexusHD2
Is the ASUS Trandformer Prime the only quad core tablet currently available at present or are there others that i don't know about?
I have to say im very disappointed with the Prime, initially i was very excited with the impending release of this tablet the specs and design looked to be absolutely amazing and i was definitely going to get one but having been a keen observer of the ASUS Transformer Prime forums on XDA it's makes for grim reading, most of what im reading are people having multiple problems from GPS to WiFi to random reboots to the tablet freezing,etc,etc,etc i did say a few weeks ago i would give it more time to see if many of these issues were to be resolved but it doesn't appear this has happened so i couldn't justify paying big money for what is essentially a product that will not work the way it should and frankly i think ASUS rushed the release of this due to overwhelming demand whereas i think they should have spend much more time testing and testing to ensure absolutely everything worked 100% the way it should so im very disappointed but i still want a tablet,no real rush am willing to wait maybe 2/3 months but what are my options, i would be looking for something similar specs to the Prime and obviously it would have to be an Android tablet running ICS, i cant see much out there right now to rival the specs of the Prime, does anyone have any recommendations>
Cheers
Maybe I should have asked elsewhere doesn't appear to have provoked much of a response!!
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
jonny68 said:
Is the ASUS Trandformer Prime the only quad core tablet currently available at present or are there others that i don't know about?
I have to say im very disappointed with the Prime, initially i was very excited with the impending release of this tablet the specs and design looked to be absolutely amazing and i was definitely going to get one but having been a keen observer of the ASUS Transformer Prime forums on XDA it's makes for grim reading, most of what im reading are people having multiple problems from GPS to WiFi to random reboots to the tablet freezing,etc,etc,etc i did say a few weeks ago i would give it more time to see if many of these issues were to be resolved but it doesn't appear this has happened so i couldn't justify paying big money for what is essentially a product that will not work the way it should and frankly i think ASUS rushed the release of this due to overwhelming demand whereas i think they should have spend much more time testing and testing to ensure absolutely everything worked 100% the way it should so im very disappointed but i still want a tablet,no real rush am willing to wait maybe 2/3 months but what are my options, i would be looking for something similar specs to the Prime and obviously it would have to be an Android tablet running ICS, i cant see much out there right now to rival the specs of the Prime, does anyone have any recommendations>
Cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep.
/10chars.
nejc121 said:
Yep.
/10chars.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
eh??????
jonny68 said:
eh??????
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Answer to your first question
Is the ASUS Trandformer Prime the only quad core tablet currently available at present
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well i dissagree i love my prime and wouldnt trade it for nothing. I have no issues with wifi and the gps is something i dont use on this. I have a phone and navi for that.
its a great tablet and makes any other i have seen slow as a dead turtle.
Plus it is the first android device I have own (5 total) that has gotten updates frequently and with a purpose. I am running ICS natively and the experience is fantabulus!
Anyways, i am sure there will be more and much better coming but for now, its the best on the market!
And its more than a quad core, its a quadcore with a 5th core for all the right reasons. My battery last very long and with this dock, the typing and usage is great. I have the 32gb with a 32gb msd plus i carry a 320 gb hard drive for movies which is accessible from the usb slot!
Anyways good luck buddy
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
Other tablets will come out soon
jetbruceli said:
well i dissagree i love my prime and wouldnt trade it for nothing. I have no issues with wifi and the gps is something i dont use on this. I have a phone and navi for that.
its a great tablet and makes any other i have seen slow as a dead turtle.
Plus it is the first android device I have own (5 total) that has gotten updates frequently and with a purpose. I am running ICS natively and the experience is fantabulus!
Anyways, i am sure there will be more and much better coming but for now, its the best on the market!
And its more than a quad core, its a quadcore with a 5th core for all the right reasons. My battery last very long and with this dock, the typing and usage is great. I have the 32gb with a 32gb msd plus i carry a 320 gb hard drive for movies which is accessible from the usb slot!
Anyways good luck buddy
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm pleased to hear that but reading the Prime forums makes for grim reading, the sheer amount of people having multiple issues is quite staggering and in all honesty ASUS have a lot to answer for, they appeared to rush the release of this before properly testing it (otherwise people wouldn't be having all these issues)
I suppose ill just have to wait until a similar spec tablet comes out but im going to be very wary of just jumping on and buying straight away, im lucky i didn't do that with the Prime or chances are id have sent it back for a refund, im gonna bide my time and read,read,read and make sure before i shell out big bucks that it actually works 100%
i agree, i'm still worried about picking up a Transformer Prime
So, I want a tablet. I bought my wife a nook color, but by then, my phone was already superior to it. I bought her an iPad 2, she loves it. It is pretty sweet. My 5 year old thought all tablets were nooks, now she calls them all iPads, she says,"what's a tablet?" I tell her it's a portable device that does everything a NetBook does but not as well. Enter the Transformer Prime. I've read the spec sheets, I've read the reviews, and I've read many of the threads here. I still believe, its the nicest Android tablet on the market today. I think the keyboard dock is just the absolute s#it, and for the most part, it seems like everyone that has one is ready to jump ship. But to where? The Transformer Prime S (T301)? I guess after owning a Tegra 2 phone, and feeling ready to upgrade at Christmas, I wonder if this summer won't hold other options. The Tegra 3 uses an A9 cortex, a dated architecture, the Galaxy Tab is due for a new rendition, Jelly Bean will be out soon, and many other factors make me wonder, is this a bad time to buy a Transformer Prime? So I'm asking those who own one, what are you looking at? If you needed to/could afford/whatever other hypothetical/ a second tablet (or 3rd or 4th, whatever) today, what would you get?
Delivered to you on floppy from my Wang PC350-40
You should wait for prime infinity. It seems to be better with the krait.... but if you want raw power go for the tegra 3. I have the 1 with t3 and its fantastic..
Sent from my Samsung GNexus <3
Also the tf700(infinity) has better gps and wifi connection .. you should wait a few weeks to see how things play out... but if you want a tablet right now tf201 is your best option
Sent from my Samsung GNexus <3
If money doesnt and some time dont matter wait for the Infinity Tab. Its the next best thing, but who knows when its actually available.
If money and time do matter there is nothing better than the prime. Its seriously awesome. Its the best package there is, combination of everything for the smallest price possible. So I'd say go for it. I'd never buy a tablet without a dock. There are sooo many times where i think ah just plug it in. And if its only when im lying on the couch to use it as a stand
You'll always be chasing technology if you sit & wait for what's just around the corner. The Prime is great. Buy one, use it & enjoy it now. Or wait for the better tegra 4/5/6/7/8, ipad 4/5/6 that'll be here tomorrow
Sent from my Dell Streak using xda premium
I own the Prime and I'm very happy with it, keyboard included, will buy the 700 when the T43 chip from Nvidia is out somewhere next year (Q3?) Tegra 4 at 2.0GHz sounds very sweet indeed.
Maybe you should wait? Or maybe buy the mighty Prime meanwhile?
Decide wisely!
green750one said:
You'll always be chasing technology if you sit & wait for what's just around the corner. The Prime is great. Buy one, use it & enjoy it now. Or wait for the better tegra 4/5/6/7/8, ipad 4/5/6 that'll be here tomorrow
Sent from my Dell Streak using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ain't that the truth. I've been chasing technology in the form of building my own PC's for years. If you wait you'll never get anything. You just gotta do it if it feels right.
BTW the Prime is a beast.
green750one said:
You'll always be chasing technology if you sit & wait for what's just around the corner. The Prime is great. Buy one, use it & enjoy it now. Or wait for the better tegra 4/5/6/7/8, ipad 4/5/6 that'll be here tomorrow
Sent from my Dell Streak using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't be a ****. Also, the iPad will always be behind hardware wise I mean look at the iPad 3, I only wait for the next one so I can by the previous one (my wife likes apple, and my kids probably will too).
theandies said:
Ain't that the truth. I've been chasing technology in the form of building my own PC's for years. If you wait you'll never get anything. You just gotta do it if it feels right.
BTW the Prime is a beast.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its true, but let's face it, you can upgrade your PC, if you build it right. A tablet, is more like a laptop you buy it and it looks pretty much the way its always gonna look.
Delivered to you on floppy from my Wang PC350-40
ray3andrei said:
You should wait for prime infinity. It seems to be better with the krait.... but if you want raw power go for the tegra 3. I have the 1 with t3 and its fantastic..
Sent from my Samsung GNexus <3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So the prime infinity us going to have krait? Dual or quad core?
Delivered to you on floppy from my Wang PC350-40
feelmyepictouch said:
So the prime infinity us going to have krait? Dual or quad core?
Delivered to you on floppy from my Wang PC350-40
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The wifi-only version will have Tegra 3, the 4G version will have the S4.
Right, because Tegra doesn't support LTE...The benchmarks I've seen show the S4 out performing the Tegra even with only 2 cores, but rendering graphics is still better given the Tegra's better GPU. So, anyone know anything from the Samsung camp tablet-wise?
Delivered to you on floppy from my Wang PC350-40
feelmyepictouch said:
So, I want a tablet. I bought my wife a nook color, but by then, my phone was already superior to it. I bought her an iPad 2, she loves it. It is pretty sweet. My 5 year old thought all tablets were nooks, now she calls them all iPads, she says,"what's a tablet?" I tell her it's a portable device that does everything a NetBook does but not as well. Enter the Transformer Prime. I've read the spec sheets, I've read the reviews, and I've read many of the threads here. I still believe, its the nicest Android tablet on the market today. I think the keyboard dock is just the absolute s#it, and for the most part, it seems like everyone that has one is ready to jump ship. But to where? The Transformer Prime S (T301)? I guess after owning a Tegra 2 phone, and feeling ready to upgrade at Christmas, I wonder if this summer won't hold other options. The Tegra 3 uses an A9 cortex, a dated architecture, the Galaxy Tab is due for a new rendition, Jelly Bean will be out soon, and many other factors make me wonder, is this a bad time to buy a Transformer Prime? So I'm asking those who own one, what are you looking at? If you needed to/could afford/whatever other hypothetical/ a second tablet (or 3rd or 4th, whatever) today, what would you get?
Delivered to you on floppy from my Wang PC350-40
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So ... you don't want the Transformer Prime and are asking in the Transformer Prime forum for what tablet to buy
V3ng said:
So ... you don't want the Transformer Prime and are asking in the Transformer Prime forum for what tablet to buy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, he might want a prime, but he's not certain, and is asking for opinions to help him come to a decision.
Rogue100 said:
No, he might want a prime, but he's not certain, and is asking for opinions to help him come to a decision.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
exactly this.
im in the same situation, as i bet many others are, not sure wether to get a prime now, or wait 1/2/3/4 weeks/months for the Infinity
V3ng said:
So ... you don't want the Transformer Prime and are asking in the Transformer Prime forum for what tablet to buy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. I totally want the prime, what I don't want is buyers' remorse. But I really just wanted a discussion with owners, how they are feeling on the eve of their purchase becoming "outdated".
Delivered to you on floppy from my Wang PC350-40
feelmyepictouch said:
No. I totally want the prime, what I don't want is buyers' remorse. But I really just wanted a discussion with owners, how they are feeling on the eve of their purchase becoming "outdated".
Delivered to you on floppy from my Wang PC350-40
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
outdated? maybe on someone else's terms/point of view.
my prime is better than some machines i use at my place, and they still work as they are intended too. meaning, just get the device if you like it. devices are all becoming more powerful, it's an always-accelerating process until it hits a wall that's too high to jump.. like it happened to desktops. we had to use more cores. one core cpus evolution stopped @P4/Athlon. same with mobile devices. we're using more cores. chips are getting smaller yes, and that allows for... more cores.
now i think ok, so i've got enough power on a tablet..how about linux on a tablet? for that i would need a keyboard. waaaait.. asus transformer prime, powerful specs+dock/qwerty kb+touchpad.. with an "2" batteries.. got to get my hands on that!
edit: of course, i also read the threads around here before buying it, but i thought that i should just go for it, because i liked the device. plus, nvidia has been a good supporter for linux software, but i won't go into further details into that (the nvidia relation with linux os on the desktops). the first i got the tablet didn't charge, dock was fine. returned it, got a new one. wifi seemed nice (5/10 dBm less than my nexus prime ), gps too (13 locks/14in view on my balcony, inside the house forget it), so i kept it.
so i did and never looked back. now, i've got to, my display has light-bleed issue, but hey, i've kept it more than 15days untouched , the issue appeared, i'm entitled by warranty terms to have my device repaired. if they cannot, i'll will ask for a replacement. if not available, a refund.
i love it.
Sent from my TF201
I bought the Prime cause I wanted a device that would last at least 5 years. And from what I had seen about the specs the prime fit the bill. Down side is all the problems poor wifi unstable browser Bluetooth unstable if using wifi. But even so out of the box on HC it was awesome until I upgraded to ICS Gps went to **** and wifi started to flake out. Update to .15 killed my TP had to keep it plugged in so the battery would not die sudden restarts the next update fixed the battery drain. Even so when they get the ICS stable it will be a tablet that lasts. With the keyboard station it gets 12 hours battery live for me. I was able to get close to the listed 18 hours but that was with it set up to preserve the battery. Works good for movies but not for games and browsing the web.
So even though it has problems, I would say grab one. Asus has been so far acting in good faith even though at times it may seem otherwise. If you are getting one make sure it is a C3 or C4 serial number avoid the C0,C1,C2 ones due to the problems I have listed and others have posted here.
I picked up my TF201 after looking around for a while and thinking "What is cost-effective, able to play games, do office work, and be a source of entertainment" and there I have the Prime....
Thank you to all who participated, that's all I really wanted, to start a conversation. I learned a lot here, I have decided to and see wait is around the corner. I thank you all for a great and lively discussion.
Delivered to you on floppy from my Wang PC350-40
I'm sure this news will be frustrating to hear from many Nexus 10 owners, I am still going through replacements to get a good screen without light bleed and dead pixels and then I hear about this.
Thoughts ??
The popular tablet already features a decently fast 1.7GHz dual-core Exynos processor alongside a Mali-T604 GPU. However, new rumors suggest that it will soon beef up with a quad-core processor and a brand new 8-core Mali-T678 GPU.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/490480/google-nexus-10-to-receive-major-upgrades-more-power/
Wow...
mattzildjian said:
I'm sure this news will be frustrating to hear from many Nexus 10 owners.
The popular tablet already features a decently fast 1.7GHz dual-core Exynos processor alongside a Mali-T604 GPU. However, new rumors suggest that it will soon beef up with a quad-core processor and a brand new 8-core Mali-T678 GPU.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/490480/google-nexus-10-to-receive-major-upgrades-more-power/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hate to be "that guy" but I'm going to be "that guy".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111301
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2109422
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108875
styckx said:
I hate to be "that guy" but I'm going to be "that guy".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111301
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2109422
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108875
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am surprised none of these are on the front page of general, none of them even showed up in the similar posts when I was making this thread.
because next to no one else is really reporting it. so complete rumour/potential bs at this point.
this wont come out till the fall anyway... 1 year life cycle is typical isnt it?
waltthizzney said:
this wont come out till the fall anyway... 1 year life cycle is typical isnt it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Very typical. The problem is the terrible source story is written like Google is going to have a girl in a bikini pop out of a cake and deliver this new device on the shelves of Walmart in a few weeks with a card in the package telling early adopters to eat crap.
Fourth thread to say the exact same thing with absolultely no credible sources for any of the info stated.
"New rumors suggest" = flimsy puff piece. And do you guys typically get breaking Android news from sites like "thebrightsideofthenews.com" and the "inquisitr.com?" I sure don't. And like styckx said above, use the friggin search button or at least take time to review the front page because all three other threads discussing this very same issue are on it.
Wow im happy finally that I didn't go with nexus 10 mali t 678 would be a beast somewhere 3 times powerful than current nexus 10s gpu mali t604
i9100g user said:
Wow im happy finally that I didn't go with nexus 10 mali t 678 would be a beast somewhere 3 times powerful than current nexus 10s gpu mali t604
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe, but the market will pretty much always be like this. I wouldn't get too bogged down in those specs for a tablet.
i9100g user said:
Wow im happy finally that I didn't go with nexus 10 mali t 678 would be a beast somewhere 3 times powerful than current nexus 10s gpu mali t604
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
...and 3-4 months after that there will be rumors of the next big thing. Such is the mobile tech market. If your constantly waiting for the next best one, you will never have anything.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD
newellj79 said:
...and 3-4 months after that there will be rumors of the next big thing. Such is the mobile tech market. If your constantly waiting for the next best one, you will never have anything.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^ So much this.
I used to work for Circuit City and I'd have to deal with this constantly. I was there for two years and I saw some of the same few customers two years later still "shopping" for a new TV that I saw shopping for a new TV my first month with the company. It got to the point I didn't even acknowledge them anymore and my boss didn't comprehend they were in the redundant technology chasing black hole. They'd constantly come in with notebooks (the worst customers are notebook customers) full of specs and charts and graphics and comparisons, print outs from the internet of reviews etc etc etc.. Holy crap I'm just annoyed even reminiscing about it.
I truly respect anyone who can make a living selling technology because it's one of the worst sales jobs next to selling mattresses. Which I've also done.
burhanistan said:
Maybe, but the market will pretty much always be like this. I wouldn't get too bogged down in those specs for a tablet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sure you can run Starcraft II HOTS on your tablet, or Skyrim, or DmC...
oh wait you will be running Shadowgun at most, like any other...
Not going to be that person to brave the waters of this new Nexus 10. It could prove to be disasterous. Take the Transformer Infinity for example. The Transformer Prime was great in terms of processing and smoothness, but Asus messed up the Infinity tablet to the point that it had major I/O / lag issues. I owned the Prime and not the Infinity so I'm basing the Infinity performance on what people has said in these forums.
unknown_owner said:
Take the Transformer Infinity for example. The Transformer Prime was great in terms of processing and smoothness, but Asus messed up the Infinity tablet to the point that it had major I/O / lag issues. I owned the Prime and not the Infinity so I'm basing the Infinity performance on what people has said in these forums.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Damn I really needed a laugh today, as a former owner of both the 201 and 700, between the two I had, C1/C6 there was no comparison in which was better. Wifi/BT/GPS was horrendous on my C1 not to mention the screen upgrade. Doesn't really matter though, both have pitiful I/O performance which has been well documented I'm only going to link a few but man LOL
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...hmark-11-modern-devices-compared-in-13-tests/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1595531
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757765
Even if they upgrade the hardware in 6 months, I'd still take my N10 over my old 201 & 700 any day of the week!
More recently users have been noticing very poor performance with ASUS Android tablets whenever there's substantial background IO going on, particularly multitasking while writes are taking place (e.g. downloading a torrent and browsing the web). The slowdowns range from multi-second long pauses to sluggish response time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So what, tech gets updated fast, you will never have the best in the market for a very long time.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
I was an early adopter of the Nexus 7 (8GB), and it ended up being discontinued shortly after I bought it and then the 16GB takes its place with the same price...
Really hoping a new Nexus 10 doesn't surface this quickly :/
espionage724 said:
I was an early adopter of the Nexus 7 (8GB), and it ended up being discontinued shortly after I bought it and then the 16GB takes its place with the same price...
Really hoping a new Nexus 10 doesn't surface this quickly :/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here I was a little irked getting the 16 at $250 then the 32GB was out but what can you do, I highly doubt we'll see a hardware revision until at least Google I/O
Such is the technology world. Don't get to upset over rumors of a beefier n10. I'd be inclined to guess that this won't happen until late 2013, if it happens at all. If a new and amazingly better n10 comes out q4 2013, it will be very easy to sell your current n10 and grab the new one. Just my .02.... BC this is what I would do. This happens (as a poster stated before) with electronics. Not big news.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2
Could Google be announcing the next Nexus 10 at Mobile World Congress?
CES 2013 has just come to an end and there are already rumors about for Mobile World Congress 2013. Among them is potential news for the next generation of Google’s Nexus 10.
Google did very well in the tablet market in 2012 by producing good tablets at a decent cost. More people could afford them and their specs helped them work well. The Nexus 10 second generation could be a lot more interesting.
The rumor comes from Theo Valich from Bright Side of News. If the rumors prove true, then the Nexus 10 second gen is going to be a beast of a tablet. At a quick glance, here are some of the rumored specs.
Mali T678 GPGPU
2GB RAM
Support for OpenCL 1.1, OpenGL ES 1.1/2.0/3.0, and Google’s Renderscript Compute
As you can see, there isn’t a lot there. However, if these rumors prove to be true, the Nexus 10 2 could be the most powerful tablet produced so far. Things like screen resolution, storage sizes, CPU, and other specs haven’t been mentioned yet, so there is still room for a pitfall or two when the final design comes out.
Are any of these Nexus 10 2 rumors true?
It’s hard to say. Theo Valich has claimed to have played with an unfinished version of the Nexus 10 2. However, the specs so far have been a mix of rumor and speculation. So, as usual, take it as it is since it is an unconfirmed rumor. It’s nice to daydream about such things. However, the 2GB of RAM should prove true as it’s the current standard for Android devices.
One thing for sure is that we’ll know more about it eventually. With Google I/O coming up soon, it’s hard to imagine Google announcing a Nexus device at another tech conference. Do you think MWC 2013 will hold some new Google magic or will Google be saving it for Google I/O? More importantly, are any of these specs believable or possible? Let us know your thoughts.
By Android Authority
What do you think? I just ordering my Nexus 10, should I cancel it? :crying:
I very much want a nexus 10, but I am wondering how the performance compares to say tega 3 and 4? If I bought one will it be pretty much useless a year from now? I am especially worried because its only dual core. (and I have no idea how the graphic chip compares). Its already been out 6 months and while its still the current tablet, history shows after a year a tablet is pretty much obsolete.
Also is it responsive? I've looked up videos but is it better than a nexus 7 atleast? (currently I have a nexus 7 but want a bigger tablet).
Do you guys feel its worth $400+?
it s not worth it .
the problem its with the 2gb ram ( 400 mb free true ) this i think its related with the frequent restarts and freeze .
this is not for you ... wait for something better if you want future .
go here next time http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2267362
for compare
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app
From N7 to N10 you can feel the difference. (I use Gnex, N4, N7 & N10)
It is all depends on your usage pattern. For me, it is fast enough (browsing, reading, movies) others might not think the same.
The point is, you need to identify what you really need in 10 inch tablet in reference of your usage.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD
The tegra chips aren't that good actually. They are mostly hyped up by Nvidia.
The only plus for them are the exclusive games.
If the Tegra 4 will be better is something which we don't know yet.
Actually, I think the hardware is quite capable, it's the software that I think needs improvement. Before I got my N10, I had an Asus Transformer, like the grandpappy of tablets. The N10 blows it out of the water. I replaced my Asus after 1.5 years, I can see me keeping the N10 a lot longer.
samwheat said:
it s not worth it .
the problem its with the 2gb ram ( 400 mb free true ) this i think its related with the frequent restarts and freeze .
this is not for you ... wait for something better if you want future .
go here next time http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2267362
for compare
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dumbest thing I've ever read. Although not surprising from reading your previous comments.
This thing has a dual core A15 processor, nothing like the quad core A9s that people seem to think are better. Plus, the GPU is nothing to scoff at either. This thing will be around for a long time. I mean, hell, look at the XOOM. That thing has been around forever and even got JB.
Don't forget about the granddaddy of them all...the moto xyboard!
meishkov said:
Don't forget about the granddaddy of them all...the moto xyboard!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Xoom was first - Xyboard followed. Xoom introduced Honeycomb to the world (which thankfully was very short lived). And yes the Xoom is still cruising along on 4.2.2, and performs far better than when it was right out of the box. I'm waiting for an updated N10 in the fall (or N11 as the rumours go) to finally replace the Xoom.
Sent from my Xoom using xda premium
Absolutely. Technology always changes and gets better. The only time I experience any lag on this tablet is when the app itself is poorly designed. Web browsing has never lagged once, even on the stock ROM.
It does everything I want it to and more. I'm also happy to know I'll be receiving the latest OS updates lightning fast.
why people get upsad when others are saying their opinions and they dont come with arguments in compare ?
Sorry kids ! i was wrong ... our candy Nexus 10 has 4gb ram . It s planty for the future . It was an error from me and Its not lagging its just freeze and restarts .
Another problem that i thought its that it have only 32gb ... it haves 64 in reality..
Sorry again ! please fogive me !
Better ? please don t cry !
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app
)))
beware of tegra 4 ... better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIL-RjLUMw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
search before talk
the only little future of this tablet stays in the developers work ... if they want to
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app
That "comparison" between the Nexus 10 and Tegra 4 is wrong on so many levels...heck they are not even using the same browser. NVIDIA hype machine is in full swing...
In addition the demo is from Nvidia. AFAIK there aren't any unbiased benchmarks out yet.
firesoul453 said:
I very much want a nexus 10, but I am wondering how the performance compares to say tega 3 and 4? If I bought one will it be pretty much useless a year from now? I am especially worried because its only dual core. (and I have no idea how the graphic chip compares). Its already been out 6 months and while its still the current tablet, history shows after a year a tablet is pretty much obsolete.
Also is it responsive? I've looked up videos but is it better than a nexus 7 atleast? (currently I have a nexus 7 but want a bigger tablet).
Do you guys feel its worth $400+?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From my perspective, if you can wait, I strongly recommend you wait. The next nexus 10 will surely pack a quad core A15 chip alongside a much improved GPU. While the T604 GPU is no slouch, the next iteration is going to be better.
Given the mixed bag I've seen in terms of hardware quality (e.g., freezing, restarts, etc), it also makes me question Samsung's reliability for producing these things.
With all things, my preference is to always try and skip the first generation, if you can withhold the temptation. =)
It's already May. It's about 5 more months till the next announcement of the N10 is out. Every day you spend pondering the question is definitely another day that makes picking up the current N10 less worthwhile.
You can always wait for the next big thing which most of the time will be much better. The question you have to ask yourself is if you need the hardware now or not. If you DO need it, there is no point in waiting. You said it yourself, 5 months till the announcement and who knows how long till the next tablet will be availalbe to buy. In tech world that is a long time to wait.
In my opinion right now is a good time to buy mobile hardware (phone or tablet). Current hardware can run anything that's existing on the web and in the media world (HD streams, HD movies, etc etc). I do not see a dramatic web/content development coming that will push current hardware beyond its limits. It was very different a few months ago before current quad core chips and potent dual cores (in the case of the Nexus 10) made an appearence.
Gaming may be a different animal, but then again this depends on how you plan to use your tablet.
mrruin said:
You can always wait for the next big thing which most of the time will be much better. The question you have to ask yourself is if you need the hardware now or not. If you DO need it, there is no point in waiting. You said it yourself, 5 months till the announcement and who knows how long till the next tablet will be availalbe to buy. In tech world that is a long time to wait.
In my opinion right now is a good time to buy mobile hardware (phone or tablet). Current hardware can run anything that's existing on the web and in the media world (HD streams, HD movies, etc etc). I do not see a dramatic web/content development coming that will push current hardware beyond its limits. It was very different a few months ago before current quad core chips and potent dual cores (in the case of the Nexus 10) made an appearence.
Gaming may be a different animal, but then again this depends on how you plan to use your tablet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In my mind, many of us don't need a tablet. We justify wanting a tablet, but definitely not needing it. This is why I told OP, if he can wait, wait it out.
The next iteration is likely going to see improvements in the screen as well (e.g., maybe higher contrast ratio), etc.
5 months isn't too long. Just stop visiting the N10 forums. Problem solved.
samwheat said:
)))
beware of tegra 4 ... better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIL-RjLUMw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
search before talk
the only little future of this tablet stays in the developers work ... if they want to
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why would you post such a horribly done comparison? All you do is hate on the nexus 10 and yet you use one all the time apparently.
but anyway
Thanks everyone. I definitely don't need a 10" tablet (especially since I do have a nexus 7) but am certainly wanting one. but I guess I better wait for the next tablet to come out. I was hoping for a new tablet announced at google IO but am not surprised to not see one announced. I'm just impatient lol.
I bought one last week and will get it today. I couldn't decide for a long time and it out of stock here anyway. Atm there's nothing better in the market. And even though the Tablet Z is tempting as well it's not a Nexus.
I own an N7 as well by the way but I wanted a 10" tablet again because it works better for certain things (e.g. PDF)
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
I don't understand why people are saying there's going to be an announcement in 5 months. Just because the thing will have been out for a year doesn't equal a refresh, and there were tons of rumors floating around for a new Nexus 7 at Google I/O and that never happened.
If you tell yourself you can wait, you'll be waiting for the rest of your life because technology moves and keeps moving. There's always going to be something better, and better is always in the eye of the beholder. Just because a new version of a tablet gets released doesn't all of a sudden make your perfectly good tablet any less great, and it certainly doesn't break it in any way.
If you can utilize a bigger tablet and want it now, just get it. Your circumstances and needs are way different than people here, and the people here are always going to tell you there's another one coming around the corner. Which there's absolutely no proof of anyway.
samwheat said:
bla bla
i hate liers
i want to see 2gb ram free ... to use it with my programs that i open .. not 300mb and boom ... restart
got it ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Free RAM is wasted RAM.
http://www.slimroms.net/index.php/faq/slimbean/238-why-do-i-have-less-memory-free-on-my-device