Screen lock randomly not working? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717
I noticed today that my screen lock isn't working most of the time. Anyone else having this problem? I've tried resetting it without luckluck
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If you mean using a PIN or pattern then yes, I have noticed this. If you set a PIN and lock the screen manually (pressing the power button) then it should require a PIN to unlock the screen, but it does not. It still does if the timer setting expires but it should require a PIN anytime you lock the screen. This is the same security bug that the skyrocket had. You can bypass the bug by setting the timer to immediate but that is such a pain to put in your in your PIN every time the screen times out...
planoman said:
If you set a PIN and lock the screen manually (pressing the power button) then it should require a PIN to unlock the screen, but it does not. It still does if the timer setting expires but it should require a PIN anytime you lock the screen.
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That's not a bug in either phone. Do you want to enter your pin every time you accidentally hit the power button? You don't have to set the timer to expire immediately, just set it fairly low.
techntrek said:
That's not a bug in either phone. Do you want to enter your pin every time you accidentally hit the power button? You don't have to set the timer to expire immediately, just set it fairly low.
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Accidentally press the power button? I have never done that. I understand about the timer, but it should require a PIN if you lock the phone with the button. I tested this on my International GNote and my skyrocket (after the security fix) and they both work as they should...if it is not a bug it is not the same as the other Samsung phones running touchwiz 4. It is not a big deal but it does exit.
Edit: It was the SGSII on ATT not the skyrocket with the security bug.
The timer is there for this purpose:
* for most ppl who like the convienence of not to use PIN all the time, timer is a great feature. You only need PIN when you let it idle for a while.
* for those paranoid, set the timer to immediate and you get what you want.
There is no security issue. It's a new feature introduced in GB.
Remember, for most ppl, power button is a key/screen touch lock so that they can safely pocket the phone without worrying about butt dialing.
Bingo. You get the best of both worlds depending on your needs. I'm very happy mine doesn't lock right away.
planoman - don't worry, you'll hit the power button. In landscape mode it is right where your fingers sit (or if you have it the other way the volume button is right there).
Let me make this easier:
1. It is not a big deal.
2. It is not that way on my skyrocket or International GNote which have GB.
3. I understand about the timer. It works fine once the time set elapses.
4. If you want to lock the phone by intentionally pressing the power button to lock you phone before the timer kicks in, it will not lock.
5. The ATT Galaxy S II launched with the same thing and everyone called it a security flaw
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-30/tech/30228702_1_samsung-flaw-timeout
planoman said:
4. If you want to lock the phone by intentionally pressing the power button to lock you phone before the timer kicks in, it will not lock.
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Hence you didn't under stand the timer at all. There are two timers: screen timer and lock timer. Don't confuse the two.
Let me make it easier for you to understand, the purpose of lock timer is to enable the lock screen when your phone idles pass the timer. Hit power button mearly inidcates that you are indeed put the phone into idle state, not start lock the phone. The actual lock won't be required until the timers elapses. This is a convienence feature so that more ppl will use the PIN lock on their phone (a good thing). A lot of ppl I know don't use PIN lock simply because they don't want to be bothered to entry PIN every 5 seconds. Yes, most ppl use power button to turn off the screen to save battery as well as avoid unintentional action on the phone. They don't use power button to LOCK the phone.
Since you like to use power button to LOCk the phone, you should set the timer to immdiate and call it a day.
5. The ATT Galaxy S II launched with the same thing and everyone called it a security flaw
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-30/tech/30228702_1_samsung-flaw-timeout
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The reporters who called it security flaw don't understand the issue at all just like you. IIRC, BGR is the first one posted such thing. And we all know how BGR is ALWAYS correct on Android stuff
The bug in SG2 is rather a UI bug. Instead of showing you a normal swipe to unlock screen, it showed a pattern unlock screen but the underlying code works correctly (it doesn't need unlock pattern at that time). Hence it throw everyone off. The UI bug has been fixed in 2.3.6 update but the timer feature still works as it should.
foxbat121 said:
Hence you didn't under stand the timer at all. There are two timers: screen timer and lock timer. Don't confuse the two.
The reporters who called it security flaw doesn't understand the issue at all just like you. IIRC, BGR is the first one posted such thing.
The bug in SG2 is rather a UI bug. Instead of showing you a normal swipe to unlock screen, it showed a pattern unlock screen but the underlying code works correctly (it doesn't need unlock pattern at that time). Hence it throw everyone off. The UI bug has been fixed in 2.3.6 update but the timer feature still works as it should.
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You know that feeling when you know you are right and someone is trying to argue a point and they just don"t get it? yeah..I have that feeling right now. Give it up. I know exactly what I am talking about.
If this was not a problem why did Samsung release a statement on it and deploy a fix for the ATT SGSII? It was for pattern lock ot PIN lock. Just because you do not use the phone like that does ot mean it is working as it should. Have you tried it on any other Samsung phones? I have stated that I tried it on two other Samsung phone running 2.3.6 and you are still arguing...
Stop trying to prove a point that cannot be proven. It is a bug, it is not designed to work that way and if you never ever want to intentionally lock your phone BEFORE the lock timer elapses then great! No problem for you!
From Android Central:
http://www.androidcentral.com/major-security-flaw-found-atts-upcoming-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-device
Please, Android central simple reposted the same thing from other blogs. They all do the same reposting each other without thinking. So, that's not really any proof.
This has been discussed throughly in the SGS2 forum.
The fact remains, most of us think power button not as lock button but you do. That's the only difference. And the current implementation benifits both sides. That's the point.
I understand what you are saying perfectly. I do use a PIN I have the lock timer set to ten miuntes for the reasons you stated. Normally I do not want to enter my PIN code every time...that said, there are times when I do want to hit the power button to shut the screen off or lock the phone BEFORE the 10 minutes will elapse. An example would be at home when I set my phone down so that if my kids grab it they cannot hit the power button and I come back to a screen that has my icons rearranged or missing etc. Or at a meeting in a conference room when I leave my phone sitting in the room or bag for a break etc, I usually do lock the phone just in case some one picks up my phone or worse steals it. They just need to touch the screen every nine minutes and they will have access to all of my stuff.
I get your points and do understand. My point was just because many do not use the power or lock button to intentionally lock the screen, does not mean the ATT Gnote is funtioning as designed or at least other Samsung phones with 2.3.6 and touchwiz.
So OP, it this what you were speaking of or did we miss your point entirely?
I use power button to turn off screen almost exclusively. Rarely I ever let screen timeout to turn the screen off for me. I'd be really pissed and call BUG if power button immediately lock the phone. My lock time out is set to 30 minutes so that I don't need to enter PIN in normal situations but have a piece of mind if I left my phone somewhere, it will be locked after 30 minutes.
In the old Windows Mobile days, you can hit power button the turn off the screen but you also can press and hold End Call button to lock the phone. Two separate buttons for two separate functions.
That is how my other two Sammy are as well as my captivate, og atrix, attic 2 were.
You could always set you screen timeout to 15 seconds.
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planoman said:
You could always set you screen timeout to 15 seconds.
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Then I will not use a PIN lock at all. 15 seconds means I have to use PIN all the time.
foxbat121 said:
Then I will not use a PIN lock at all. 15 seconds means I have to use PIN all the time.
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Only if you press the power button. If the screen times out at 15 seconds, the pin lock timer kicks in which for you is 30 minutes. Your lock screen works regularly unless you press the power button to turn off and "lock" the screen.
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planoman said:
Only if you press the power button. If the screen times out at 15 seconds, the pin lock timer kicks in which for you is 30 minutes. Your lock screen works regularly unless you press the power button to turn off and "lock" the screen.
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You are right. I mis-read. I'm already on 15-sec screen time out. It is still too long for me when I'm done using the phone and need to put into my pocket.
Then add a small app to your home screen which will give you 1-touch phone lock. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.droidmania.lockscreenwidget&feature=search_result
There are many others - some appear to lock and shut the screen down, some just lock.
I'm pretty sure this isn't a bug, I think they just changed the way the phone is designed to lock. My captivate always locked when you pushed the button right away, I like the way it works in my Note a lot better as I will push the button by accident or habit and realize I didn't finish what I was doing. My timeout is only like 15 seconds though.
camaroz28 said:
I'm pretty sure this isn't a bug, I think they just changed the way the phone is designed to lock. My captivate always locked when you pushed the button right away, I like the way it works in my Note a lot better as I will push the button by accident or habit and realize I didn't finish what I was doing. My timeout is only like 15 seconds though.
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The new time out features are introduced in GingerBread. So, I'm sure the Captivate with the new GB udpate will have the similar feature now.
They may have changed it, but as you said it is not the way other Samsung phones have been. Not a big deal for me, but I wanted folks who have like a 30 minute timer on the lockscreen to know their phone is not locked when they use the power button to turn off the screen like it would have been with other Samsung phones.
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Horrible Work Around for Lock Screen PLZ Help
Hello everyone, I found a big time glitch on the lock screen. If your screen is locked and you let it time out that top layer with the time on it appears when you cut it back on. Just move it out the way and your phone is unlocked without a pattern code needed. How do I stop this?!?!?
mtorre5 said: Hello everyone, I found a big time glitch on the lock screen. If your screen is locked and you let it time out that top layer with the time on it appears when you cut it back on. Just move it out the way and your phone is unlocked without a pattern code needed. How do I stop this?!?!? Click to expand... Click to collapse DUDE, do you read any of tech blogs? This was reported over the weekend and ATT and Samsung are working on a fix. Just sayin its a known issue and I don't believe a fix has been issued.
Actually I dont, but thanks for the info
Go to Settings/location and security/timeout And set the lock screen to immediately Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using XDA App
jank0023 said: DUDE, do you read any of tech blogs? This was reported over the weekend and ATT and Samsung are working on a fix. Just sayin its a known issue and I don't believe a fix has been issued. Click to expand... Click to collapse A fix has not been issued but a workaround has been.
I have a feeling none of you will like the actual fix. The work around more like a fix. The only bug here is the pattern unlock screen showed up when it shouldn't. And it has nothing to do with security breach or not.
mtorre5 said: Hello everyone, I found a big time glitch on the lock screen. If your screen is locked and you let it time out that top layer with the time on it appears when you cut it back on. Just move it out the way and your phone is unlocked without a pattern code needed. How do I stop this?!?!? Click to expand... Click to collapse NO WAY! I'm so glad you pointed this out for all of the rest of us.
dayv said: Go to Settings/location and security/timeout And set the lock screen to immediately Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using XDA App Click to expand... Click to collapse Working as intended ... This is the setting to make it work how you want!!!!
my personal fix was to use No Lock to turn off that stupid swipe thing, and added WidgetLocker.
moopile said: Working as intended ... This is the setting to make it work how you want!!!! Click to expand... Click to collapse No, still not working properly. I hope at&t gets a fix soon Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
Dxtra said: No, still not working properly. I hope at&t gets a fix soon Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium Click to expand... Click to collapse I set my timeout to "Immediately", let the screen go off, and have to enter pattern to get back in.
Dxtra said: No, still not working properly. I hope at&t gets a fix soon Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium Click to expand... Click to collapse Here is how is suppose to work (when you have the timeout in Lock settings, not display settings, set to anything other than immediately: 1. You power on the phone, you need enter the unlock pattern. 2. You hit power button or let the display time out, the phone screen goes off. 3a. If you wake up the phone within the timeout period you set above, you should be at a normal swipe screen without the need to enter your unlock pattern. 3b. If you wake up the phone after the timeout period, you should see a pattern unlock screen and you need to enter the unlock pattern to unlock your phone. The bug is in 3a, it showed the pattern unlock screen instead of the normal swipe screen. That's what confuseed a lot ppl. There is no security risk here. It works as it is designed to do but Samsung made a mistake to display a wrong screen. This timeout feature is designed to be a convience feature so that you don't have to pattern unlock your phone frequently if you're actively using it. You will only be asked for pattern unlock if the phone idles for certain amount of time you set. If you don't like this and like to be asked to unlock everytime, you should set the time out to immediately anyway.
foxbat121 said: Here is how is suppose to work (when you have the timeout in Lock settings, not display settings, set to anything other than immediately: 1. You power on the phone, you need enter the unlock pattern. 2. You hit power button or let the display time out, the phone screen goes off. 3a. If you wake up the phone within the timeout period you set above, you should be at a normal swipe screen without the need to enter your unlock pattern. 3b. If you wake up the phone after the timeout period, you should see a pattern unlock screen and you need to enter the unlock pattern to unlock your phone. The bug is in 3a, it showed the pattern unlock screen instead of the normal swipe screen. That's what confuseed a lot ppl. There is no security risk here. It works as it is designed to do but Samsung made a mistake to display a wrong screen. This timeout feature is designed to be a convience feature so that you don't have to pattern unlock your phone frequently if you're actively using it. You will only be asked for pattern unlock if the phone idles for certain amount of time you set. If you don't like this and like to be asked to unlock everytime, you should set the time out to immediately anyway. Click to expand... Click to collapse Have you actually gave this try. I completely understand how the time out period works and I guess we all do, but your not getting where the bugs are in plural because there's two I found. Bug 1. No matter what's your time out, it's not supposed to let you in the phone without you actually putting the password. If you let the screen sleep in the lock screen next time you wake the phone there's no password to put in. It let's you in Bug 2. If you set time out to immediately. The Password protection lockscreen disabled right after you unlock your phone. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
Dxtra said: Bug 1. No matter what's your time out, it's not supposed to let you in the phone without you actually putting the password. If you let the screen sleep in the lock screen next time you wake the phone there's no password to put in. It let's you in Click to expand... Click to collapse That's the whole reason why you have a timeout setting in lock screen. If you wake up the phone within timeout (timeout of the lock screen, not timeout of the display), you don't have to unlock it. If you don't like this, set to immediately. I don't use pattern lock (which is ridiculously easy to crack). I have exchange policy on my phone with PIN password. It does not suffer from any bugs like pattern lock. Don't understand what your mean in bug #2.
foxbat121 said: That's the whole reason why you have a timeout setting in lock screen. If you wake up the phone within timeout (timeout of the lock screen, not timeout of the display), you don't have to unlock it. If you don't like this, set to immediately. I don't use pattern lock (which is ridiculously easy to crack). I have exchange policy on my phone with PIN password. It does not suffer from any bugs like pattern lock. Don't understand what your mean in bug #2. Click to expand... Click to collapse Dude, it's buggy period. Before you even go any further. Give the lock screen a try. It's all around the Internet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvbjr4tf_Nk&feature=youtube_gdata_player Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
I see, you're the one that refuse to listen/read.
foxbat121 said: I see, you're the one that refuse to listen/read. Click to expand... Click to collapse I like the feature; same as on Honeycomb.
Problem when screen dims + Locks
Hi all, I'm not too sure if anyone else has ever experienced this but it is starting to annoy me. When my screen dims after 1 minute and goes to the lock screen I'm able to press the 'home' button and the unlock screen appears but I'm not able to do anything. Its almost as if my devices jams and I have to press buttons to get it to come back. I've reinstalled my device and this doesn't happen. This happens during a call when the screen dims when its near my ear and I take my phone away from my ear the screen doesn't come on and it jams Please - your help will be greatly appreciated
just swipe unlock it ? or use smart stay
Aimara said: just swipe unlock it ? or use smart stay Click to expand... Click to collapse I wish that was the issue. My smartstay is on. When the device's screen turns off the 2 issues happen:- 1. You press the home button to turn the screen on and the phone goes into the pattern lock screen - when i try do my pattern it doesn't pick anything up almost as if the screen has frozen and I have to wait 1 minute for the screen to go off and do the same process and hope it works. 2. I'm in a call and the screen is supposed to light up after removing it from my hear however it stays black. I have to lay the phone down, wait 1 minute and press the home button and hopefully the screen comes up and hopefully it isn't jammed
try this see if it works https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobint.locker
Hey Aimara, It didn't work.. It almost seems like the phone jams i.e. there is no RAM left or something
Check your running apps, and could be too many apps running on background using up ram, try to freeze some unwanted apps
I have no issues unlocking my stock Sprint GS3 as you describe. Like some other have mentioned, maybe free up some internal RAM by moving some apps or data to SD storage?
I think it might be caused by CPU tuner and the governors? I noticed when my battery was low it would get stuck on the unlock screen. Hopefully with my changes it works Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
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