Hi,
I have been facing these two weird issues:
1. Sudden drop in battery percentage: I have found that this occurs only when i reboot my phone (not every time though). So when the phone restarts, the battery is down by 20-30% or sometimes even more. And its not a one time issue. I have seen it happen at least 3-4 times in the last 5 months.
2. Sometimes when I am not charging the phone, the battery % keeps increasing slowly. This has been happening lately since the time I have rooted and flashed my phone. 2-3 occurrences that i know. I don't recall seeing this when I was on stock. Just this morning I plugged my phone off the charger at 52% and I left for work. And right now at this moment when I am writing this, the phone is at 58% charge!!
Just FYI.. I calibrate the battery every time I flash a new ROM.
Thanks,
Sam
sammy.samsung said:
Hi,
I have been facing these two weird issues:
1. Sudden drop in battery percentage: I have found that this occurs only when i reboot my phone (not every time though). So when the phone restarts, the battery is down by 20-30% or sometimes even more. And its not a one time issue. I have seen it happen at least 3-4 times in the last 5 months.
2. Sometimes when I am not charging the phone, the battery % keeps increasing slowly. This has been happening lately since the time I have rooted and flashed my phone. 2-3 occurrences that i know. I don't recall seeing this when I was on stock. Just this morning I plugged my phone off the charger at 52% and I left for work. And right now at this moment when I am writing this, the phone is at 58% charge!!
Just FYI.. I calibrate the battery every time I flash a new ROM.
Thanks,
Sam
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I think that Entropy can answer this better but I'll still give a try.
[Q] Why these sudden battery level drops after reboot?
[A] The sudden battery drops is a known 'issue'. It's not a bug, it's the way the fuel gauges are designed for i777.
[Q] How to avoid these sudden battery level drops?
[A] Try not to reboot while it's on battery if the battery level is <50%. In that case, if you need to, make sure that the phone is plugged in for charging and then do the reboot. That should prevent those random battery level drops.
[Q] Will using battery calibration apps help?
[A] No, the way the i777 fuel gauges are designed, there is no need of battery calibration apps. The best way to get accurate battery level readings is to allow the battery to go through full 100%->0% battery discharge cycles for atleast 2-3 times. After each full discharge remove the battery, keep it out for a minute or two and reinsert, recharge the phone.
PS: The weird battery charges that violate E=MC^2 law might have to do with your battery not having been through proper discharge cycles (and thus not having been properly calibrated) after flashing a new ROM.
@Mod These questions are asked many times, how about adding them to FAQs (not sure if that will help though )
@Entropy Please review this post.
Pretty close.
Calibration does nothing on our device - the fuel gauge is designed so that it will always converge towards truth instead of diverging. Also, the "wipe battery stats" method of "calibration" has been proven to do NOTHING on ANY device whatsoever - https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT - The "charge battery to full" and "discharge/recharge" battery are valid tactics on some devices, but NOT any Galaxy S or S II device (maybe the ****rocket and T989, but not the I9100 or I777.) - There's a slight chance this may change with ICS on the I9100/I777 but not likely.
The advantage of this is that it never needs funky calibration cycles other than "just wait"
The disadvantage is that the gauge will get thrown off in a few limited corner cases - and the "two" issues described are one widely documented one. The gauge gets confused and falseley reports low by heavily battery load immediately following a reset, and takes a few hours to converge back to normality (during which the estimate creeps upward, because it was lower than reality initially).
And yeah this should probably be in the FAQ. I'll work on submitting it this weekend.
Thanks guys..
So looks like the sudden battery drop issue can only be prevented but not fixed!
sammy.samsung said:
Thanks guys..
So looks like the sudden battery drop issue can only be prevented but not fixed!
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It's pretty much the characteristics of putting a battery under load and using voltage to dictate battery level. when you draw a lot of current from a battery you'll usually see the voltage level drop, more so as the battery is discharged. Booting up the phone consumes quite a bit of power, substantially more than the device at idle. So upon start up the device reads the voltage level to dictate battery level. Since the device is under a relatively high power draw, it sees a lower voltage than would be at idle. It in return thinks the battery is lower than it actually is, or would read under idle load. the battery level will actually creep back up slowly because it will read a higher voltage, than it did upon start up.
The only way i could think of to get a more accurate reading would be to delay the initial voltage reading/recording upon start up, or to use the last voltage reading to help dictate the battery level. But i have no idea if that's even possible, or if it would conflict with some sort of other operation.
I just don't get it!!!!!!!
I was playing multiplayer in bombsquad today morning wid my friend .My battery was @ 86% at that time
suddenly my battery came down to 15% then in the other moment it went to0% and mt phone got shut down. I plugged my phone in charge through the power bank and rebooted it and I saw my phone was @52 % I started using my phone and it again suddenly sut down this time without even a battery low message
it's been happening regularly wid my phone since then.
What could be the reason? And what can I do to make it right?
MY PHONE INFORMATION
MODEL:SAMSUNG GALAXY CORE GT I8262
ROM:USING STOCK ROM(ROOTED) (CWM RECOVERY INSTALLED)
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MODEL:SAMSUNG GALAXY CORE GT I8262
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This is the wrong forum. Even though the thread is about a problem similar to yours, we don't know anything about your phone.
If you have a removable battery, you might try purchasing a new battery, but that's just a guess.
The forums for you phone are here.
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I tried searching this in a number of places. I couldn't find what I was looking for, although it didn't help I had trouble using the right words to search for it with, but here goes.
I'm running CleanROM Reborn 1.1, I love it! Other info is also in my signature. Once I turned on the percentage number for my battery level, I really started to notice this.
The number will stay at a number for awhile sometimes, even when I use it, then other times it will jump several points within a minute. It doesn't drain consistently. Anyone have any insight or suggestions? It's more annoying than anything else. My battery life is alright.
I would've tried wiping battery stats, but I hear that doesn't really do anything.
Thanks.
download Battery Calibration from the Google Play Store, then charge your phone to %100. open the Battery Calibration app and calibrate it. There is also instructions inside the App if my instructions are unclear
Im going to try this but for some reason mine only go to about 96%. Never 100% lately so I am not sure if I should do it then or just leave it charged until it is 100% and hope it gets there.
.Bambino said:
Im going to try this but for some reason mine only go to about 96%. Never 100% lately so I am not sure if I should do it then or just leave it charged until it is 100% and hope it gets there.
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Not to hijack the thread, but the phone is designed to fully charge and then discharge to 95% and then charge to 100% again, rinse, and repeat. This is to keep the battery from becoming destroyed by overcharging. Maybe that's what you are seeing, Bambino.
Sent from my PG86100
Iceman248 said:
The number will stay at a number for awhile sometimes, even when I use it, then other times it will jump several points within a minute. It doesn't drain consistently. Anyone have any insight or suggestions? It's more annoying than anything else. My battery life is alright.
I would've tried wiping battery stats, but I hear that doesn't really do anything.
Thanks.
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I've noticed this too on Ics leak roms. It sips power with screen off, then drains quickly when on sometimes and hardly at all other times. Mine just sat at 82% for the past 20 minutes, then dropped to 76% over the past five. I've heard battery calibration is bunk, but I'll try the previously mentioned app and see.
Some roms do not use a percentage because they are so inaccurate and cause the user to obsess
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MeanRoom-ICS-v18 .... Excellent
S-ON Hboot 1.5 Unlocket Last update 2.17.xx
flash whit 4EXT r3
A little info on batteries
The important thing to remember about Lithium Ion batteries is that when you do charge them, bring them up to full charge before taking them off the charger.
They all have a circuit board in them that remembers a full charge. (If you've every taken one apart you'd see this) When you charge them this chip will restore the amount of power that has drained.
Partially charging them will screw up this function. And screw up the battery.
Deep Cycling is good for them but not all the time. Once a month is good for them.
A good rule of thumb, but not absolutely necessary is to discharge them 50% and then bring them up to a full charge. Obviously this is not always possible when playing video games or watching movies. I always try to leave it on the charger when watching movies in the cradle.
There is an app on the Market called Battery Repair. It makes an attempt to reset this chip on the battery by meticulous monitoring the charge and capacity left in the battery. Running diagnostics and setting the battery to its best state. Its the only one out there that does this.
Battery Calibration app is good if you change roms or batteries alot.
Here is what it does:
Calibration needs to be done after flashing a new ROM, but you can calibrate any time you think your battery is miscalibrated. This program does it by removing the batterystats.bin system file. The OS generates a new clean batterystats file soon, thus any fake information from the previous ROM is removed.
It's suggested, but not necessary, to let the phone fully discharge after calibration, then charged to 100% without break.
The app shows your actual battery status, and only allows you to start the calibration (i.e. removes the file) when it's fully charged, unless you force earlier calibration.
The voltage meter can be useful too. Full charge is around 4200mV.
I have a battery reading issue on my Motorola RAZR. Whenever I use a ROM with one percent battery mod, two things happen:
a) It stops charging at 95-96 % (says "full") Not really an issue, if I leave it longer it eventually goes to 100.
b) Dramatic 10 percent(ish) drop. One second it'll be on 27% and then it'll drop to say, 19. It only does this once per charge, and I don't think it's ever at the same level when it does it.
Why does this happen? Is it common? Web search had no answers.
And please don't tell me to calibrate my battery. Not only is that a debunked myth, but I've tried it several times (through an app, and manually through recovery) and it hasn't worked.
Responses are appreciated
Anyone?
Sent from my Nexus 7 running CM10
Strange battery readings are not unusual after flashing a new rom. I've seen sudden big drops. I've also seen increases in my battery percentage. Eventually after several charging/discharging cycles you should get more accurate battery readings and you shouldn't see such strange behavior.
I accidentally found a way to over come the unsual battery drain. This method may not work out with completely worn out - old batteries. A month after I bought my s3, my battery started to drain excessively. I had installed no new apps..
Phone Usage was almost the same. Before the battery drain I got almost 26~30 hours of battery at normal use... after the battery drain I got less than 12 hours for the same usage.
So here is the method.
Put the phone on charge. After puttting it on charge, switch off the phone... u can restart it after twenty seconds... ideally wait till the phone cools down, if it feels hot... don't use the phone till it reaches 100% charge. This method works for any initial charge. I.e. it works when the battery is at 98% or at 1%. But if u try this method when u have 1% and u keep using the phone while charging, this method may not work... so ideally don't use the phone while charging.
So now I do this everyday and my phone lasts for 26~30 hours on normal use.
I used gsam battery monitor pro to monitor my phone's temperature and battery usage.
It also gives the average number of hours the battery will last.
For those who dont know : Ideally charge the battery when it is leas than 10%. This will increase the overall battery life.
P.s. it works for me. Don't complain if it doesn't work for u!!
Cheers,
Kraadhagaa aka sivakannan
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
You basically calibrated your battery. Typically only needs done about once a month at most to keep your battery gauge accurate. Any more than that hurts your battery.
t1n0m3n said:
You basically calibrated your battery. Typically only needs done about once a month at most to keep your battery gauge accurate. Any more than that hurts your battery.
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Calibration is draining the battery till 0%, phone switches off and charging it till 100% when the phone is switched off.
This did not do the job. Battery drain was still bad.
After trying out my method, i charged the phone for two or three cycles without this method. Then the battery drain got horrible till the method was repeated.
I have been testing this method for a month. It hasn't caused Any harm. My battery life is good.
Its in effect the well posted bump charge method .
jje
stop playing games!! :silly:
sivajikannan said:
Calibration is draining the battery till 0%,
No its not calibration is using the phone .
Basically many just talk a load on nonsense when it comes to battery's .
jje
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I don't know a lot about batteries so I don't know how much of this is true.
I read that the phones chip, if it regularly see's the phone's battery going no lower than say, 15% over time (i.e, user always charges it once it hits 15%) that it will start to use this 15% mark as the "empty" level and that the best thing to do is to "remind it" every now and again, that there are battery levels below this 15% by letting it drain to 0%
Anyone got any comments on that?
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Once you get above 90%, I would stop worrying about it. I think most if not all devices need to go through charge/discharge cycles while fully charged to keep the battery life good, so when it is "charged" it will actually be ramping up and down to do that. How this is shown to the user varies across manufacturers, and there is really no clearly right solution -- if you show them the actual changes in level they start complaining and getting concerned about their battery not being at 100%, so it is good to just show it at 100% at this point but then you are giving a little white lie about the actual level.
NOTE last line 100% is not really true .
As to the 15% all i read is that continual dropping below 15% / 10% is bad for the battery's overall life .
jje
JJEgan said:
As to the 15% all i read is that continual dropping below 15% / 10% is bad for the battery's overall life .
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The other thing with Li-On batteries is that (as you say) using the last 10-15% of charge is damaging to overall battery life. If the battery reaches "True 0", it would be irreparable. That said, this last 10-15% of "Danger zone" (as I will now call it) is inhibited by an EPROM setting so a user cannot actually get below that.
Essentially, what I am saying is that the 10-15% "danger zone" is not included in the 0-100% that we perceive to be the "battery life" as the user.
So in the 1st attached image, the Red area represents the "danger Zone" or EEPROM protected charge. The Green area represents the 0-100% that we use as a user.
But in this case, I am asking if the EPROM sees the 15% remaining charge of the green area (forgetting the danger zone exists), if regularly not dropping below that, it becomes the new 0%, losing the last 15% of the green area as per the second image?
The phone only sees a reported voltage value, which it compares to a table giving an approximate % remaining - based on a fixed battery capacity.
The 15% danger/red zone you refer to is below the minimum voltage the phone will allow the battery to ever reach, as below this value the battery itself will act to disconnect - giving unexpected shut down and data loss/partition corruption. You would also be unable to recover a battery in this condition with a normal charger.
Best advise is still to recharge before the battery reaches 10 to 15% of the phone's indicated remaining value - you can safely go down to 0% indicated but will lose a little battery capacity each time you do this, as the electrodes inside the cell are being worn away. It's no big deal, hence why the phone permits it to happen, you'll just need to replace the battery earlier.
Similarly charging to 100% and holding the cell there is just as bad, remove from the charger and start using it right away.
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The phone only sees a reported voltage value, which it compares to a table giving an approximate % remaining - based on a fixed battery capacity.
The 15% danger/red zone you refer to is below the minimum voltage the phone will allow the battery to ever reach, as below this value the battery itself will act to disconnect - giving unexpected shut down and data loss/partition corruption. You would also be unable to recover a battery in this condition with a normal charger
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This I know but it's not related to my question.
boomboomer said:
Best advise is still to recharge before the battery reaches 10 to 15% of the phone's indicated remaining value - you can safely go down to 0% indicated but will lose a little battery capacity each time you do this, as the electrodes inside the cell are being worn away. It's no big deal, hence why the phone permits it to happen, you'll just need to replace the battery earlier.
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I'm not sure I agree with this but again, it's not related to my question.
*shrug* Sorry, I read your post about 10 times last night and figured you were talking about calibration. I then posted accordingly. Tonight, after I read your reply, I tried reading your post again a few more times. Finally, I came to the conclusion that your post makes no sense, so I give up trying to decipher what your post was trying to say. I surrender.
The best answer to the battery drain issue is a application called "GREENIFY". It closes all the background applications.. Try it n thank me if u feel it worked.. It increased my battery life more than twice..
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Lol... e=mc^2 doesn't make sense to a lot of people either
t1n0m3n said:
*shrug* Sorry, I read your post about 10 times last night and figured you were talking about calibration. I then posted accordingly. Tonight, after I read your reply, I tried reading your post again a few more times. Finally, I came to the conclusion that your post makes no sense, so I give up trying to decipher what your post was trying to say. I surrender.
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After my stock battery started dying and not holding the charge anymore I bought two new aftermarket batteries (2300mAh) everything went fantastic for some time, then from one day to the other the battery I use daily started draining crazy (even 2% at time) I tried a lot of roms with no luck. Bad battery you say, here is the weird fact, the other battery which used maximum 4-5 times at month keeping it at half-charge, has the EXACT same drain that the other has. Is it possibile that something in the phone has gone nuts and is indicating wrong values? I also ran a full charge-discharge cycle preventing the low battery shutdown through xposed, and it shutdown some minutes after hitting 0%, at full charge indicates 4.300mV is it correct, isn't it?
Also using the *#0228# code (I can't recall now if it's correct) the charge level drops a lot like 30-50% and I noticed that the phone later stays at that % for quite a bit and also the heat from the battery draining stops and the phone stays very cool also while gaming, until it starts draining again
No one?
You can look at the simple battery-statistics in setting to find abnormal consumption by an app.
Otherwise buy a battery from Samsung's e-store: I bought several 'original' batteries (not for S3) from Amazon and mentioned too early wear after 1/2 year.
Replacement batteries are a waste of money. I had 2. 1 bloated and the other dies in a few minutes. Upgraded my phone instead.
I wish I stole my HTC M9.
Hi everybody
I've got a major battery issue with my three year old Nexus 10.
The battery indicator shows something around 75%, drops to 0 in a split second, switches in energy saving mode (notification and navigation bar are turning red) while it shuts down.
To verify I made an Automate Flow saves the battery charge every second to a text file. Result:
Code:
82,82,82,81,81,81,81,[...],73,73,73,73,0,0,0,0,0 EOF
Okay, it thought to myself, after three years the battery is broken. So I bought a replacement battery (Samsung original) and replaced it - but nothing changed.
To clear all old stats (and running Android 6.0.1) I wiped everything TWRP offered and installed CM13 - but nothing changed.
Now my only guess is, that there's some EPROM (or other memory hardware) that stores battery stats.
Can you, dear forum, help me fixing that issue?
No one?
Has anyone of you guys changed the manta battery, yet?
Same thing after OTA upgrade in D6563
I'm facing the same problem here with my d6563, after the MM OTA update i started to face quick vertical battery drop, but we're not the only ones, some users are reporting this issue in a lot of devices, some of them after update, some others after rooting, some of them just after some apps update, and the thing is that nothing seems to work, some users claim to have solved the issue, but they are just talking to fast, because the problem comes back the same day, they just think taht the battery data is accurate but then the drop accurs, si, i'm starting a new thread listing all the solutions tghat senior members have recomended and failed in order to track this problem to his roots once in for all, it's been happening since kitkat at y has come worse since marshmallow
keep in touch to see what we can figure out about this.
Battery _stats_ issue
I had, ummm, similar issues with my TCL S720 (in less degree) and now with TCL M2U (TCL Meme da 3N M2U AKA Alcatel Flash+) phones.
TCL M2U has 3500mAh battery capacity.
After full charge it discharge normally to ~40%. Behind 40% it is discharged to 1% for a few minutes and shuts off!
If then I charge it again to 100% then it eats about its full capacity (~3500mAh) - checked with Keweisi USB Doctor and shows 100% charge, but discharges to 40% again.
On other firmware there is similar effect but for 30% level or 15% level, it depends on firmware.
I think that the battery is OK but the charge percentage display is wrong.
Another strange thing is when I see the charge level using Ampere app. It shows i.e. 50% battery level and 3.762V voltage on the battery. Then I plug it in charger. For a short time the voltage rises to 3.8V and more but the battery level is lowered to 45%! Also if I charge the phone from discharged state then the battery level is 1% for the long time, then it quickly raise to ~30% and then shows charge process normally (almost linear). The USB Doctor show the charge process smooth almost all time (from stronger current to weaker).
So I join to the 1st post question: where is the battery's _real_ voltage level data?