Hey Guys
Check out the recent Cnet prizefight between the Prime and the Ipad 2, what do you think of the reults? I love these prizefights, and this one was pretty good..actually a first for the Ipad 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdNS_VA5EfM
1) Lack of widescreen is an advantage...
2) "The OS we will be personal preference but we gave the win to iPad because we are dumb"
3) "Basically, the TFP has better camera/video/screen than the iPad but this round is a tie cause IDK why"
The iPad is a nice device but the points they bring up and compare are so dumb.
That b.s. Comparison..lol they gave ipa2 rounds where prime clearly outshined it. 4.4 to 4.5 my a+-..lol prime clearly won
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xGary said:
1) Lack of widescreen is an advantage...
2) "The OS we will be personal preference but we gave the win to iPad because we are dumb"
3) "Basically, the TFP has better camera/video/screen than the iPad but this round is a tie cause IDK why"
The iPad is a nice device but the points they bring up and compare are so dumb.
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exactly......
got to love that screen tear at 1:20
In "Value" they compare the 16GB version of the iPad 2 to the 32GB of the Prime, makes no sense.
They should compare apples to apples, the 32GB wifi of the Prime is $499 and the 32GB wifi of the iPad 2 is $619.
Yeah, I did not get how the Ipad 2 won when they mentioned that the prime had a better camera, multimedia etc...I believe that the Prime won this prizefight hands down...despite it's issues, I just love the smoothness, color display, speed and size of this tablet!
Also, most of the professional review sites that do these comparisons actually give the win to the Prime. Let's not forget, the original Ipad and the O.S. had its share of software issues also, but now its much better. This will be the same with ICS and Nvidia..once all the kinks are worked out, things will be MUCH better(GPS issues not counting)
xGary said:
1) Lack of widescreen is an advantage...
2) "The OS we will be personal preference but we gave the win to iPad because we are dumb"
3) "Basically, the TFP has better camera/video/screen than the iPad but this round is a tie cause IDK why"
The iPad is a nice device but the points they bring up and compare are so dumb.
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Oh, and send your Prime in for an RMA wait 21 day's for bad wifi and bluetooth and get one back that has worse wifi, bluetooth and oh yea it also freezes and locks up!!!! ( DING DING)
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rand33099 said:
Oh, and send your Prime in for an RMA wait 21 day's for bad wifi and bluetooth and get one back that has worse wifi, bluetooth and oh yea it also freezes and locks up!!!! ( DING DING)
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Troll Award! DING DING!!!
rand33099 said:
Oh, and send your Prime in for an RMA wait 21 day's for bad wifi and bluetooth and get one back that has worse wifi, bluetooth and oh yea it also freezes and locks up!!!! ( DING DING)
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Jonphinguyen7 said:
Troll Award! DING DING!!!
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You beat me to this! We all know the tab has issues, and Asus has been working to try and fix it..no need to repeat this over and over again. Even with the issues that some users are having, it is still a great tablet.
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Troll Award! DING DING!!!
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TROLL, dont think so.......Just stating the truth my friend. Not saying one company is better than the other. Just pissed at this device I cant use thats all......
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MRCANNADY said:
You beat me to this! We all know the tab has issues, and Asus has been working to try and fix it..no need to rpeat this over and over again. Even with the issues that some users are having, it is still a great tablet.
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My point is I cannot say its great, not trying to start anything maybe you have a good working tablet I do not so don't start stuff just cause someone says something negative. Believe me I try to like it .
Wow that was close with iPad still on top. I hope they re-do the prize fight once the iPad 3 launches.
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TROLL, dont think so.......Just stating the truth my friend. Not saying one company is better than the other. Just pissed at this device I cant use thats all......
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My point is I cannot say its great, not trying to start anything maybe you have a good working tablet I do not so don't start stuff just cause someone says something negative. Believe me I try to like it .
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What exactly happened with your device? Is it unusable at all right now? If you sent it in for RMA b4, send it back. If they can't get the issue right they will give you a new tablet. Just let them know how frustrated you are that you had to wait so long for first RMA only to get it back in worse condition. Plus there is a hardware fix/check the service centers will perform now to make sure your wifi antennae is connected properly or that the foil didn't shift. Needed supplies are being shipped to all service centers now.
Engadget also gave the Award to the Ipad even though the votes were so close.
I have both tablets and use the Prime 95% of the time. Notice that they did not even mention the front facing camera on the IPAD 2 that things is worthless (so is the rear facing one...lol).
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Ehm... yeah... 'Transformer has the better (and wide)screen for videos, can give the full web experience (with flash), no need to recode videos and plays just about anything you throw at it. The camera is a lot better as well. So... it's a tie!'
Nuff said, ipad and transformer both are excellent tablets (simply depending on the type of user) but the point above makes sure I can't take anything said seriously anymore.
Funny thing is, I was playing with an iPad 2 the other day, and I didn't find it more intuitive in the slightest. In fact, I found it kind of confusing, particularly the multitouch gestures. I think ICS catches up with iOS, and provides more functionality to boot.
This whole "iOS is more intuitive" meme has got to go. It's no longer true in any meaningful sense, I think.
yeah this comparison is a joke. I'm embarrassed for CNET over this.
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Funny thing is, I was playing with an iPad 2 the other day, and I didn't find it more intuitive in the slightest. In fact, I found it kind of confusing, particularly the multitouch gestures. I think ICS catches up with iOS, and provides more functionality to boot.
This whole "iOS is more intuitive" meme has got to go. It's no longer true in any meaningful sense, I think.
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I have both, and while ICS is the best iteration of android so far...one of the reasons people say iOS is more intuitive is that everything for the user is laid out on the home screen without having to dig into various menus that a non tech user might find confusing.
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What exactly happened with your device? Is it unusable at all right now? If you sent it in for RMA b4, send it back. If they can't get the issue right they will give you a new tablet. Just let them know how frustrated you are that you had to wait so long for first RMA only to get it back in worse condition. Plus there is a hardware fix/check the service centers will perform now to make sure your wifi antennae is connected properly or that the foil didn't shift. Needed supplies are being shipped to all service centers now.
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I sent it in for the wifi and bluetooth issue. To make a long story short they gave me a new one C10 and I have the same problem but worse. Also going to .14 made it freeze put .15 on today seems to have fixed freeze. I know this update was not for wifi and bluetooth, GPS. Anyway I told Asus I was still having the problems they said call in two weeks they have a fix I could RMA at that time. So I hope you see my frustrations thats why I got pissed at the moron that said troll when I posted. Just venting sorry
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Not sure if we have had one of these yet, but i would love to hear from the people who got a proper (or close to proper) prime.
Has it lived up to your expectations? Whats your fave thing about it? was it worth your green backs?
Omg...pls close this topic...
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Hey mibo666 - I see you are from Poland - like me.
Did you order Prime in Euro AGD? I did. Tomorrow will be available to pick up. Can;t wait...
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Omg...pls close this topic...
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good thing you are here to tell them which threads to close.. man thanks for the great posts.
IMO this thread is needed - so much negativity about the prime elsewhere and nobody's coming on to tell us any good experiences. Makes me want to cancel my pre-order.
Shelfty said:
IMO this thread is needed - so much negativity about the prime elsewhere and nobody's coming on to tell us any good experiences. Makes me want to cancel my pre-order.
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agree.. i love my prime.. its the best android tablet out there right now. the build is the best out of any tablet.
the honeycomb bugs are still there, they are 10x better with the quad core and less noticeable. all comes down to ICS.
if was to sit in my closet with the lights off while my tab boots i could see a light bleed, good thing i don't use my tablet ever in the closet with my lights off. so i'm good with that.
Had the original Transformer as well as a whole host of other tablets. I still say this concept of the detachable hard dock is the most productive I've ever had. The added battery life and a mouse make it feel like an honest laptop replacement. In terms of comparing the new and old Prime, the new one has some obvious advantages in terms of size I really like the weight of it. I do agree with those who said it is a little harder to hold, the metal makes it a little more slick. When I have been using it as a reading tablet for a period of time it does matter
Flaws... well, my GPS doesn't work. I don't know that I care, but since I paid for it I want it to work. Since I have the Galaxy Nexus I realy like ICS, so I hope like hell we get it soon. THe camera facing you isn't great, but oh well. And docked it is definately top heavy and prone to tip. They should have distributed the weight a little more evenly.
Do I like it a lot? Yes! Do I love it? Not yet, but I have a feeling I will
Finally got mine and so far, I'm loving it. Love the weight. Zippy, no lag. GPS doesn't work, but I'm not terribly concerned with that at the moment. Everyone here at work is Ohhh-ing and Ahhh-ing.
My biggest gripe right now is that "everything" seems to be backordered. Waiting for a case and the dock.
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Not sure if we have had one of these yet, but i would love to hear from the people who got a proper (or close to proper) prime.
Has it lived up to your expectations? Whats your fave thing about it? was it worth your green backs?
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Here is a thread created a few days ago called "The Positive TP Thread". It's basically the same thing as this one. You can go there and read some more of people's positives about it.
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Not sure if we have had one of these yet, but i would love to hear from the people who got a proper (or close to proper) prime.
Has it lived up to your expectations? Whats your fave thing about it? was it worth your green backs?
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you know this thread is just a cry out for this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
I appreciate this thread. I got mine yesterday and I am a HUGE fan of it. Everything seems to be working very well. I've been trying to run it thru it's paces, keeping the brightness all the way up, just looks amazing.
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you know this thread is just a cry out for this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
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This can go both ways as well though, positive or negative. More people tend to post negative stuff and not positive posts, because the positive people are playing with there TP and are to busy to post here . I don't own one yet, I am hoping today is the day though!
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This can go both ways as well though, positive or negative. More people tend to post negative stuff and not positive posts, because the positive people are playing with there TP and are to busy to post here . I don't own one yet, I am hoping today is the day though!
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Yes, funny how some folks point out such things as "confirmation bias" only to... well... confirm their own negative bias. It's downright ironic.
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Finally got mine and so far, I'm loving it. Love the weight. Zippy, no lag. GPS doesn't work, but I'm not terribly concerned with that at the moment. Everyone here at work is Ohhh-ing and Ahhh-ing.
My biggest gripe right now is that "everything" seems to be backordered. Waiting for a case and the dock.
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B&H had the case in stock and it will be here tomorow.
I love everything about the TP. I've seen no lag whatsoever. The games look awesome. I plugged in the Hdmi cable and played shadowgun on my plasma tv and it looked great. The bluetooth controller from Gamestop is pretty slick also. I personally think it flies on the Internet. Page transitions are very fluid. I've read some negative comments about it's speaker but the one that it does have sounds great.
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you know this thread is just a cry out for this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
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Agree. Let's all just ***** instead. Also, somebody posted this exact same link (and post) last week, as somebody else was trying to inject something positive into this den of negativity. I have to ask... Why pee on somebody's parade?
Mine is nearly flawless, and I am glad I made my purchase decision. The very few issues I have with it are due to apps stability.
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Yes, funny how some folks point out such things as "confirmation bias" only to... well... confirm their own negative bias. It's downright ironic.
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that's not ironic, and I dont have any bias towards the Prime as I don't have mine yet (will by next Tuesday) so I can't judge the device negatively or positively.
But ever since I saw that word posted on this board I couldn't help but see how frequently many here are actively looking for information to fit their needs. Its an easy way to set yourself up for disappointment at worst, or be pleasantly surprised if underestimate it.
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you know this thread is just a cry out for this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
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actually this thread doesn't. its more of the majority of negative threads/comments being thrown around lately. based on that definition from wiki. this tread is good and needed although there's a similar one called the positive transformer thread.
to the OP, I think from my various posts, lol, you can see that I love my device. it has been performing great and has no issues I've noticed, so far. this is way better than my Ipad all around. can't wait till developement starts, ICS, and more tegra3 games being released. this purchase was more than worth the money. I'm so glad that I didn't let the negativity, before and after release, deter me away from this device. especially since its performing so well for me right now. definitely is the best tablet out now, by far and will more than likely be that way for at least the next 4-6 months.
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I love everything about the TP. I've seen no lag whatsoever. The games look awesome. I plugged in the Hdmi cable and played shadowgun on my plasma tv and it looked great. The bluetooth controller from Gamestop is pretty slick also. I personally think it flies on the Internet. Page transitions are very fluid. I've read some negative comments about it's speaker but the one that it does have sounds great.
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if you want a great volume boost to the already great sound get volume+. there's a thread on it in themes and apps section. I bit the bullet and got it last night. I confirmed the major increase in volume level with a decibel reader. it consistently showed increase in volume/decibels with speaker mod on. it ridiculous how much more louder and bass output this thing has now. and the sound was already great before. this just makes it even better. check out the thread.
lol theres a few haters on this thread eh? i just don't get why people say anything, it doesn't affect you. I guess they want to show off there e-peen.
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you know this thread is just a cry out for this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
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Well, at least it's not as bad as having to buy locked-in, walled garden Apple stuff.
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Well am disappointed. I was watching on youtube some nvidia trailers indicating how smooth www browsing will be. well - bull shi.....!
On my prime browsing is still laggy as it was on TF101. I even think it is worse than it was on TF101.
Maybe it will be better on ICS but right now many apps freezes (youtube, google earth).
Also switching between apps is soooo laggy and takes few secs!
If I have known this I would never sell my TF101...
I feel cheated by nvidia and asus. Really. Especially when I think my Prime creaks in two places...
Am I alone here?
PS - oh and on Riptide GP there are few moments when I can feel the drop in fps...
Remember, you bought an item when it first came out. there are always bugs. Yes, you'd think that they'd fix something like that, but they were intentionally trying to release in time for the holidays. Just wait for some developing to be done or for an update
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Well am disappointed. I was watching on youtube some nvidia trailers indicating how smooth www browsing will be. well - bull shi.....!
On my prime browsing is still laggy as it was on TF101. I even think it is worse than it was on TF101.
Maybe it will be better on ICS but right now many apps freezes (youtube, google earth).
Also switching between apps is soooo laggy and takes few secs!
If I have known this I would never sell my TF101...
I feel cheated by nvidia and asus. Really. Especially when I think my Prime creaks in two places...
Am I alone here?
PS - oh and on Riptide GP there are few moments when I can feel the drop in fps...
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I agree that browsing in the stock browser was terrible when I first got the tablet. And I mean *terrible*. Out of the box, it was really, really bad. But then I took one of the suggestions made by a thread here to change some options in the stock browser, and now it works perfectly well. Of course, I use Opera Mobile anyway, and the browsing on that is smooth.
I've played Riptide GP and Shadowgun, and both are very smooth with no stuttering or anything.
Overall my tablet performs pretty darn well, but yes, there are occasional random stutters between applications etc., which can be irritating. But transitions between screens, opening the app drawer, etc. are very smooth. Even with HD live wallpaper.
Sir, please bring it back or something:
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My Prime is creaking! WTF ?! ( 1 2)
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google earth on prime with huge problems
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Youtube application - freezes and crashes
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I'm also a little disappointed with the lag in the browser. I have a Galaxy Nexus, and the browser in ICS is SO smooth, so I'm hopeful that the ICS update on the TP fixes this. There's no reason it shouldn't.
Actually, I know the browser in ICS uses hardware acceleration. Does the browser in Honeycomb do this too? I don't think it does. If this is the case, we should see a noticeable improvement in ICS on the TP.
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I don't have my Prime yet so I can't verify any of this, but I've read numerous reports of Opera Mobile being better than the stock HC browser on the Prime. However, apparently changing the settings helps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411438
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Sir, please bring it back or something:
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My Prime is creaking! WTF ?! ( 1 2)
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google earth on prime with huge problems
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Youtube application - freezes and crashes
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I do hope you (Orion66) have a replacement on order... especially if your prime is creaking! My second HTC Thunderbolt (first one had dead pixels as soon as I turned it on) had a screen-creaking issue, just like you described with the Prime. Took it back, got it replaced.
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I don't have my Prime yet so I can't verify any of this, but I've read numerous reports of Opera Mobile being better than the stock HC browser on the Prime. However, apparently changing the settings helps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1411438
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These settings work. Browsing is great. I love my prime. I haven't used my iPad 2 since it arrived. Horray foe being free!
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Yep ICS will make this an entirely new tablet IMO.I've watched videos of the galaxy nexus running ICS outperform the IPhone in browser tests! So just wait a bit before bashing the prime.Asus even wanted it to ship with ICS.
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Sir, please bring it back or something:
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My Prime is creaking! WTF ?! ( 1 2)
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google earth on prime with huge problems
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Youtube application - freezes and crashes
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Seriously! My GPS doesn't work and I have minor screen bleed, so I am going to try and exchange it for a new one. Mine doesn't even see one satellite. I know I got a dud, but I don't go creating numerous threads about it. Take your Prime back and get a new one and report back your results. Until then, we all know that your pissed you received the ultra dud, we have your opinions and we will take it with a grain of salt along with all of the other reviews.
Can you please post a video of the terrible performance!?
So glad I just cancelled my order...I'm also sorry I sold my TF101 for this piece of ****e!
I am getting really tired of seeing these threads. HoneyComb is crap even google said so. No matter what hardware its on it runs like crap and always will. ICS will be out soon and the Prime will be smoking fast.
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I am getting really tired of seeing these threads. HoneyComb is crap even google said so. No matter what hardware its on it runs like crap and always will. ICS will be out soon and the Prime will be smoking fast.
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You pay $500. You get a device that isn't working good. Why he doesn't have the right to complain? If Honeycomb was so **** they should have wait till they got ICS working on the Prime, not rush the freaking thing out half working.
not to sound like a douchebag, but all these posts are starting to be humourous. Its Amazing how me n several others sit hereby read all these issues, yet we experience non of them really. aside from GPS, which Asus has already came out n claimed they dropped the ball on basically. not a deal breaker for me. but all this lag, fps drop, creaking of screen, etc...sounds kind of crazy to me because my device is basically perfect. I have an Ipad n this thing is way faster and smoother, for the most part. if my prime had a creaking issue, I'd send it back immediately. instead of coming up here. xda can do nothing for you if device screen or something not put on right. instead of wasting energy complaining online, take that same energy and send the &#!? back for another one. or if you so displeased then get your money back. plain n simple. that's what I don't get aboutslot of these people up here. must be kids or something. Because i know if my device was as defective as some making it seem, I been would've exchanged it or gotten it taken care of. no one is denying your issues.
just get your priorities in check. if my $500 device isn't workn right, fu#& posting up here, I'm going straight to the store or whatever to exchange it. or get money back...DAMN. its that simple.
in just saying...lmfao. sorry you having the bad experience. I'm not gonna let others detract from my great experience I'm having with it though.
plus another thought, not towards the op, some people are obviously looking for something to be wrong with device. if they believe it enough without really putting it through its paces, then self manifestation will produce a faulty device. people without major issues still outnumber those with them.
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You pay $500. You get a device that isn't working good. Why he doesn't have the right to complain? If Honeycomb was so **** they should have wait till they got ICS working on the Prime, not rush the freaking thing out half working.
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Mine will be here Tuesday, I bought it for the HW knowing that HC sucks and that ICS will be on it soon, or it will be rooted soon and we can run custom roms. So either take it back and get your money back and go jump on the apple bandwagon or STFU and wait for a software update to fix the lag issues.
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Mine will be here Tuesday, I bought it for the HW knowing that HC sucks and that ICS will be on it soon, or it will be rooted soon and we can run custom roms. So either take it back and get your money back and go jump on the apple bandwagon or STFU and wait for a software update to fix the lag issues.
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Lol? Sure, will fix the GPS too right? I don't like Apple, but if they release something they do it good, Asus could take Apple as an example how to release (and build..) something.
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not to sound like a douchebag, but all these posts are starting to be humourous. Its Amazing how me n several others sit hereby read all these issues, yet we experience non of them really. aside from GPS, which Asus has already came out n claimed they dropped the ball on basically. not a deal breaker for me. but all this lag, fps drop, creaking of screen, etc...sounds kind of crazy to me because my device is basically perfect. I have an Ipad n this thing is way faster and smoother, for the most part. if my prime had a creaking issue, I'd send it back immediately. instead of coming up here. xda can do nothing for you if device screen or something not put on right. instead of wasting energy complaining online, take that same energy and send the &#!? back for another one. or if you so displeased then get your money back. plain n simple. that's what I don't get aboutslot of these people up here. must be kids or something. Because i know if my device was as defective as some making it seem, I been would've exchanged it or gotten it taken care of. no one is denying your issues.
just get your priorities in check. if my $500 device isn't workn right, fu#& posting up here, I'm going straight to the store or whatever to exchange it. or get money back...DAMN. its that simple.
in just saying...lmfao. sorry you having the bad experience. I'm not gonna let others detract from my great experience I'm having with it though.
plus another thought, not towards the op, some people are obviously looking for something to be wrong with device. if they believe it enough without really putting it through its paces, then self manifestation will produce a faulty device. people without major issues still outnumber those with them.
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+1
Couldn't be closer to the truth
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Lol? Sure, will fix the GPS too right? I don't like Apple, but if they release something they do it good, Asus could take Apple as an example how to release (and build..) something.
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Enough about the mother f**king GPS it doesn't work Asus said it won't do if you want good go buy a Tom Tom or a different tablet
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Enough about the mother f**king GPS it doesn't work Asus said it won't do if you want good go buy a Tom Tom or a different tablet
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Lol. Funny guy. They didn't say that. They put a GPS in it, do you think they put it there for the fun? LOL.
I may seem like a troll here, but some of you guys just have some kind of tunnel vision and deny all of the problems. Don't do that.
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Lol. Funny guy. They didn't say that. They put a GPS in it, do you think they put it there for the fun? LOL.
I may seem like a troll here, but some of you guys just have some kind of tunnel vision and deny all of the problems. Don't do that.
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I'm not denying the problem your just being the biggest retool ever it doesn't work it won't work don't likeit gets new tablet it will never work you have to deal with it
Guys!
I just sold my Galaxy tab 10.1 for the prime,but reading from this forum with GPS and WIFI problem...
Should i BUY IT or NOT?
Or wait for the next TABLET....
dmoney94 said:
Guys!
I just sold my Galaxy tab 10.1 for the prime,but reading from this forum with GPS and WIFI problem...
Should i BUY IT or NOT?
Or wait for the next TABLET....
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Get it. There are a lot of people on here, including myself, that love their primes.
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If I've helped you in any way... hit the "Thanks" button.
It is a great device that while it has a few issues here and there its nothing to throw the level of fits some do here. At very least give it a try and make your own judgements.
dmoney94 said:
Guys!
I just sold my Galaxy tab 10.1 for the prime,but reading from this forum with GPS and WIFI problem...
Should i BUY IT or NOT?
Or wait for the next TABLET....
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If you read through some of the longer threads you'll see references to "good" Prime's and "bad" Prime's. The loyalists will say their "good" Prime's are in the majority while those with issues will say the "bad" Prime's are. There have been Prime's in the first batch w/o issues and samples of the latest build with them. Some people have had to go through quite a few exchanges to get a Prime they're happy with while some got a "good" Prime from the first batch built on the first shot. Keep in mind that both "good" and "bad" are subjective. With that said, it's your call.
I would definitely get it. I have one and yes there was wifi and GPS issues but a recent update has fixed the wifi issue on my prime
Keep reading and do what's best for you. Its a divided community and you are bound to get flamed just for this post.
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Which, indirectly, is an answer unto itself.
who needs GPS?
Well, i decided to open my box. it's the new champagne version and as the wifi works (so far) the gps doesn't at all.. then again it's snowing here so it may not work until there's a nice, clear day. i'm giving mine the benefit of the doubt and we shall see over the coming weeks if it was a good decission or a bad one as i will end up making a thread about what issues i come across eventhough i haven't gotten even midway through a quarter of the threads based around this workhorse.
stay tuned. but as for me, even with the gps not being amazing, or even working... i'm still happy at this point
There is quite alot of complaining going on here. But dont let yourself be fooled by that. There are/were some issues with Primes, my guess is that its mostly early models that had some preproduction problems.
Most users here are very happy with their Primes myself included. My wifi is perfect wherever i am in our house, i could even use it in the garden if it werent -10° Celcius
In fact if i compare it with wifi analyzer to my phone its almost always a bit stronger. Also my GPS works pretty reasonable when i'm outside, getting a fix in under a minute, not the strongest but it works.
Everything else is just astounding. Browsing, gaming, reading books/comics ist just an amazing experience. Everything is smooth, battery is amazing (no .13 patch in europe yet), in fact i hardly ever power up my desktop pc anymore. High quality flash in fullscreen or even outputted to an HDTV is just nice.
Oh and i have a perfectly smooth and working n64 and psx with me now. All the time Wh00t!?
I really have nothing bad to say at this point. And btw, this is the first unit i got. No exchange was needed.
If you are comfortable dealing with bugs, exchanging the product several times until you receive a good working unit, receiving little to no support, being without the tablet during RMAs, and probable hardware issues which cannot be fixed with software, I say buy it.
Myself, I returned mine for something more stable, the acer A200. I'm waiting for either a fixed TF201 or a different quad core tablet.
I received a bad unit and might seem negative. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Get it, try it. If you like it, keep it. If not, return it. But, do NOT keep it past the return period if you actually want to return it.
Keep in mind that any future update may make you wish you had returned it.
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- If you want to use GPS with your tablet I would recommend waiting.
- If you do not have a pressing desire/need for a tablet right now I would recommend waiting.
Given those two qualifications I would say go for it but do so with open eyes. Know your return window and if your unit has problems, or you can not live with the limitations, then be sure to return it in time. Personally I am quite fond of my TP but it would be foolhardy to deny that many have had problems.
If you can wait till June/July then I would recommend waiting for the 700 series transformer. Chances are Asus will have learned something from the TP and will update the wireless. Additionally by then the tegra 3 chipset will have been around long enough for the supporting code to be better situated. Finally the reported 1920x1200 screen is very enticing for me.
Ignoring the 700 I am sure the other manufacturers are not sitting on their laurels either. It might be worth a wait to see what comes out.
Thank everybody for your comments....
Now its time for me to decide....
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Thank everybody for your comments....
Now its time for me to decide....
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Are you a betting man (or woman)? Now that your question's been answered, I'll bet you an accessory this post is up to four pages by this time tomorrow and never leaves the front page. Such is the emotion the Prime evokes.
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If you are comfortable dealing with bugs, exchanging the product several times until you receive a good working unit, receiving little to no support, being without the tablet during RMAs, and probable hardware issues which cannot be fixed with software, I say buy it.
Myself, I returned mine for something more stable, the acer A200. I'm waiting for either a fixed TF201 or a different quad core tablet.
I received a bad unit and might seem negative. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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I couldn't have said that better myself. I would still give it a shot. Who knows, you may get a "Good Prime".
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- If you want to use GPS with your tablet I would recommend waiting.
- If you do not have a pressing desire/need for a tablet right now I would recommend waiting.
Given those two qualifications I would say go for it but do so with open eyes. Know your return window and if your unit has problems, or you can not live with the limitations, then be sure to return it in time. Personally I am quite fond of my TP but it would be foolhardy to deny that many have had problems.
If you can wait till June/July then I would recommend waiting for the 700 series transformer. Chances are Asus will have learned something from the TP and will update the wireless. Additionally by then the tegra 3 chipset will have been around long enough for the supporting code to be better situated. Finally the reported 1920x1200 screen is very enticing for me.
Ignoring the 700 I am sure the other manufacturers are not sitting on their laurels either. It might be worth a wait to see what comes out.
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Good post.
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If you read through some of the longer threads you'll see references to "good" Prime's and "bad" Prime's. The loyalists will say their "good" Prime's are in the majority while those with issues will say the "bad" Prime's are. There have been Prime's in the first batch w/o issues and samples of the latest build with them. Some people have had to go through quite a few exchanges to get a Prime they're happy with while some got a "good" Prime from the first batch built on the first shot. Keep in mind that both "good" and "bad" are subjective. With that said, it's your call.
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Nvm...lmao. just take a look St The positive Transformer thread in my signature. But remember OP,
NOTHING IS AS GOOD AS IT SEEMS AND NOTHING IS AS BAD AS IT SEEMS. SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN REALITY FALLS!
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Nvm...lmao. just take a look St The positive Transformer thread in my signature. But remember OP,
NOTHING IS AS GOOD AS IT SEEMS AND NOTHING IS AS BAD AS IT SEEMS. SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN REALITY FALLS!
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Janet said it best. If you don't need a tablet right now, there's zero harm in waiting. Hopefully Asus will work through the issues and a Prime purchased in the future will be more stable. If not, there are other tablets coming out so there will be something to compare to. Hopefully at MWC on the 27th manufacturers will do more than have a beauty pageant and actually announce some release dates.
If you are going to give it a try - make sure you buy from a store with a good return policy. 30 days, no shipping back fees and no restocking fees.
I have returned 2 and will return the 3rd. All of them had problems.
From my experience, I was amazed when it was advertised. I bought it, wasnt satisfied, exchanged it, wasnt satisfied again, in process of exchanging it, then the update screwed my wife's prime, so I returned that hers and cancalled mine for a full refund. We choose to wait for the prime to get its bugs out or a newer or better one to come out that we can try out and see if it something we can rely on.
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If you are comfortable dealing with bugs, exchanging the product several times until you receive a good working unit, receiving little to no support, being without the tablet during RMAs, and probable hardware issues which cannot be fixed with software, I say buy it.
Myself, I returned mine for something more stable, the acer A200. I'm waiting for either a fixed TF201 or a different quad core tablet.
I received a bad unit and might seem negative. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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+1 the future does not look good for this particular model of a new line comes out maybe then it would be worth it if they get QC under control with the processor.
I have been looking into buying a Transformer Prime Tablet but after coming on these forums I see that it isn't exactly a perfect machine. So how bad are these problems? How bad is the wifi? GPS? The tegra 3 is supposed to be 3x as fast as the tegra 2, is it? I understand that every piece of technology will have its ups and downs and you will always have people complaining but I hear even ASUS started acknowledging this? Also whats up with this new shut off problem and problems with updating or after updating?
Sorry to hit you guys with all these questions but Its a big investment, and my main use will be school.
Thanks in advanced!
Yes. If you want one of the better tablets out there, you desire a tablet that can replace most of a laptops functions and like a laptop you don't need a fully functional GPS you will love it.
If you are like all the other complainers out there about a tablet not having a GPS, then don't bother. We don't need another one of those complainers out there.
Good luck in your choice I am very happy with mine.
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Yes. If you want one of the better tablets out there, you desire a tablet that can replace most of a laptops functions and like a laptop you don't need a fully functional GPS you will love it.
If you are like all the other complainers out there about a tablet not having a GPS, then don't bother. We don't need another one of those complainers out there.
Good luck in your choice I am very happy with mine.
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What about the wifi and the other common problems? Also I plan on getting a wifi only one anyways so gps can only do so much for me
I just bought mine yesterday and I love it. Theres a noticible speed difference between this and my tf101.
My wifi seems fine, not so sure about my gps because I havent tested it without wifi on, but with wifi it worked fine.
Im a college student and I use my tf in school, not for notes though, nothing will beat the feeling of pen on paper.
I use it for a planner in jorte calender to keep on top of my due dates.
I use it to capture pictures of powerpoint slides for professors that do not upload.
I use it on the bus there to play games, watch movies, watch cbt nuggets, study, or listen to music.
I use it as a second screen (gotta love the dock) for project writeups while I do forensics projects on computers in the computer lab.
I've also replaced my phone with google voice/skype - as I have a 4g hotspot .
Most importantly I use it to show the world how large my penis is by having a quadcore tablet.
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What about the wifi and the other common problems? Also I plan on getting a wifi only one anyways so gps can only do so much for me
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GPS is the only common problem. All others are small numbers compared to whole of working devices. Just check out positive thread in my signature. The answer you seek is there. Don't get sucked into all this b.s. on the surface. Majority of prime owners happy with device n have no issues or hardly any. Decide for yourself. Look at both sides. Issues side tend to exaggerate n complain alot more. Not as many people have it as it may seem on surface. Plenty of polls hereto price that.
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I just bought mine yesterday and I love it. Theres a noticible speed difference between this and my tf101.
My wifi seems fine, not so sure about my gps because I havent tested it without wifi on, but with wifi it worked fine.
Im a college student and I use my tf in school, not for notes though, nothing will beat the feeling of pen on paper.
I use it for a planner in jorte calender to keep on top of my due dates.
I use it to capture pictures of powerpoint slides for professors that do not upload.
I use it on the bus there to play games, watch movies, watch cbt nuggets, study, or listen to music.
I use it as a second screen (gotta love the dock) for project writeups while I do forensics projects on computers in the computer lab.
I've also replaced my phone with google voice/skype - as I have a 4g hotspot .
Most importantly I use it to show the world how large my penis is by having a quadcore tablet.
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Hey u owe me! Lol j/k did you ever get the update working with files iI gave you?
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GPS is the only common problem. All others are small numbers compared to whole of working devices. Just check out positive thread in my signature. The answer you seek is there. Don't get sucked into all this b.s. on the surface. Majority of prime owners happy with device n have no issues or hardly any. Decide for yourself. Look at both sides. Issues side tend to exaggerate n complain alot more. Not as many people have it as it may seem on surface. Plenty of polls hereto price that.
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Hey u owe me! Lol j/k did you ever get the update working with files iI gave you?
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Thanks again. In theory it should of worked, but I forgot to mention I deleted the bloatware as well. I downloaded a system dump of system/app/, but I need to make nandroid backups before I swap something like that out, and I don't have a recovery console like cwm right now.
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Thanks again. In theory it should of worked, but I forgot to mention I deleted the bloatware as well. I downloaded a system dump of system/app/, but I need to make nandroid backups before I swap something like that out, and I don't have a recovery console like cwm right now.
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Check the thread you made..I posted in there
thanks, that was exactly what I needed. On paper it seems like a beast and in reviews it did amazing. But these forums kind of had me skeptical.
I bought many Prime after reviews online and testing one at the local store. But waiting for mine to be delivered I started finding threads about all these issues. Can honestly say I was scared I made the wrong choice.
However, no WiFi or GPS issues
Now - I have a ton of learning to do... this isn't quite what I was expecting and have a lot of setup to do to make use of this new toy.
I feel you. Yesterday I went around looking for them, and gamestop was the only place with them in stock. Their return policy is "once you open it, you're stuck with it". Nervously made the decision to buy it, handed over my 534 dollars. Opened it, perfect unit. Took the biggest sigh of relief.
i got this device a week ago, and everything works great for me. wifi is just fine
I don't have any shut off, random reboot or wifi problems with my prime, although the GPS doesn't work. The keyboard dock works extremely well (and is a handy backup battery). Personally I consider it a required feature for a tablet, which rather limits alternatives.
Although I am very happy with my prime, and it can do everything I require of it (which includes coding), it doesn't offer *quite* the performance I'd hoped for and if you don't feel you need a tablet I'd hold off for another generation. Tablet tech is good now but at the current rate of improvement this time next year it should be great.
Well I was told to go elsewhere to complain about Asus and the problems I am having with the $680 64Gb prime I bought. So since Diamondback is getting tired of closing threads and deleting posts, I decided on starting a thread were people who need or want to vent can come and vent. And to be fair if you have good things to say about Asus or your Prime please share it here.
As I have tried to say before I like my Prime but am getting tired of the problems that have not been fixed or pop up after an update is released..
I think the gps dongle, while a nice gesture was a misstep for Asus. I would have just taken that on the chin. The hardware/software problems that have not been resolved are far worse. I don't give a s- about gps. Again, nice move on their part, but the dongle does me zero good if the damn thing crashes and freezes. I'll take the wifi issues, it's not that bad. Just give me a functional f'n unit that doesn't run slower than my ibm 286. \rant
There is a class action suit going on. I was actually contacted today by one of the lawyers doing it. You can email [email protected] and tell him you want to be apart of it.
I miss the complaint thread. At least there was the hope that Asus would actually read their own thread, which ended up not being the case.
Better hurry up, this one will probably closed to.
Bout to pack bags from XDA with all of this crap. Its a shame.
All were looking for is answers.
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There is a class action suit going on. I was actually contacted today by one of the lawyers doing it. You can email [email protected] and tell him you want to be apart of it.
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Another one? I thought that got killed
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Better hurry up, this one will probably closed to.
Bout to pack bags from XDA with all of this crap. Its a shame.
All were looking for is answers.
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Another one? I thought that got killed
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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I think the gps dongle, while a nice gesture was a misstep for Asus. I would have just taken that on the chin. The hardware/software problems that have not been resolved are far worse. I don't give a s- about gps. Again, nice move on their part, but the dongle does me zero good if the damn thing crashes and freezes. I'll take the wifi issues, it's not that bad. Just give me a functional f'n unit that doesn't run slower than my ibm 286. \rant
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Absolutely true.
Asus took the easy way out by sending us a 4 dollar piece of plastic and wire, instead of working on the actual issues.
Since i see demandarin posting in this thread, so much for your update prediction. This is getting totally ridiculous. , and Asus seems fine with it.I have bought so much Asus stuff over the years, i will be rethinking that, after the prime fiasco,
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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Class action suits are awesome for all lawyers involved and the original filer. No one added to the class gets anything useful.
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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That's really your personal opinion on the matter. How it unfolds.. I guess we'll have to just wait and see (we won't find out until few yrs later anyways). Btw, what do you mean by no "official" filing?
http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/02/13/ColinvASUS.pdf
What else do you need?? What's more official?
You sir are mistaken.
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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This is not correct, the papers were filed over two months ago, the case is strong and will move forward in good time. ASuS as already been to two informal hearing at the various law firms involved when they were in CA. And as stated in previous post, you can let the team know that you'd like to be a part if they need anymore actual users of this product to appear in court. I've been watching mr. demandarin for quite some time and I'm sorry to say, but I feel he is either privileged by ASUS or just a tireless fan boy. Nothing wrong with enjoying a product and company that as serviced you to your satisfaction, but most of us that have kept quite for some time have followed long and tedious arguments that involved this individual. I give credit where credit is due but do not idolize any company, person, device or anything else so I can be a little more unbiased when assessing a situation. If you are unhappy with a product, this is the place to seek help, and if you can get a actual rep to listen, good for you! If you can't, then it's time to take legal action and get louder so that others are protected from having the same treatment as you. So by all means, follow the previous posters advice, seek out legal action. It will be funny to see how many fans will have their hand's out for the settlement money when it is awarded. Mark my words.
Thanks
I am glad to see that this tread is getting used. I also want to thank all who posted here as I have learned more about what is going on and what people are looking for. I have learned that I am not the only one who wants a stable working Prime over a GPS dongle.
I also would like to know if anyone has tried to use a Huawei E369 Datacard with their Prime. I have read that the Huawei 17xx was working but would like to buy the newest one out that will work so it will last at least 5 years before it becomes outdated.
I've noticed as of late that asus has stfu about everything. I realize that Gary was sick, but "official posts" are becoming fewer and farther between. They are going into defense mode. They know they are sol to fix the issues without having to put out a full recall which is a huge embarrassment and going to cost them an arm and a leg, plus street cred. It's getting to end game folks. They better be brewing a software miracle, or an overall solution. I think a lawsuit has legs with the horrible performance, Dongle be damned.
I would think a class action lawsuit has a foothold. There is absolutely no way that Asus did not know about the wifi and GPS issues when they launched. They got caught up in the "iPad killer" hype and wanted to get them out by Christmas. The lack of advertising by Asus and the retail establishment is icing on the cake.
Funny thing is that I picked up a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 for my birthday last week and it is snappier than my Prime (especially when browsing and installing from the Play store)
The lack of updates is disconcerting as well. Perhaps there are no further firmware/software fixes for this device.
It is simply a small blip on the Android Tablet radar that will go down in history as a complete and utter failure.
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I am glad to see that this tread is getting used. I also want to thank all who posted here as I have learned more about what is going on and what people are looking for. I have learned that I am not the only one who wants a stable working Prime over a GPS dongle.
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There has been a ton of discussion about this just today, problem is it keeps getting shut down, either by reported posts, or, over zealous mods, either way, the ends the same
The mysterious , unreleased firmware should be telling everybody something, the og transformer has had the update to .24 for quite sometime, the prime testers have had it for at least 2 weeks or more, one in particular gave today as a release date, even though some of those testers are reporting good results, I'm not buying it. If it was ready for prime time it would have dropped.It seems like I have new issues pop up every day, or the same issues manifesting in different ways
I have multiple issues with prime, i am going to ask Asus for a refund, probably more than ask, and go with something else, other tegra 3 tablets available, and the A700 and thrive are getting rave reviews, They certainly can't be worse than the Prime, and i doubt they will go backwards with no explanation like the prime.Asus is going to lose my business for sure
I have 2 different PM's to both Asus_usa and Gary key, for 2 and a half days now, so far no response yet, for dedicated forum support, thats unacceptable.
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its the same lawsuit but its not going anywhere really. The case against Asus isnt strong. Its likely to get thrown out before it even really begins. Hence the reason no official filing has even been done yet. This is just something someone "Wants" to bring against asus. Nothing thats actually happening or going on yet.
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opps... didnt see someone posted the link to the filing. lol But If anything comes from it remains to be seen..
All I want is the browser sped up and I would be perfectly happy. Gary mentioned that there would be an upgrade to browsing in the new firmware but after this much time it leads you to think that it must be a hardware issue. Although Asus has always been outed by other sources before they give out any real information.
I bought a top of the line Android Tablet and I swear my girlfriends Kindle browses the internet faster.
It is also odd to see that new post the other day about the Asus Nexus Tablet. It is hard to believe that they would be able to meet Demand or Expectations after all of the Prime problems.
Yea I am getting tired closing all your threads....
What's so hard about posting in existing threads?
I understand that you want answers, I want them too, but making new threads each day complaning about the issues won't get you any answers...
Gary doesn't answer in threads, so maybe the situation will change with the new guy - Asus_USA - but until then please use the existing threads.