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I just bought an MEX-BT2500 and had it installed - all at Circuit City, for the Americans on this forum.
Since I literally *just* got it, I will give an initial impression and then update this in a few days probably with some more info.
INITIAL IMPRESSION
Well, it looks nice. The buttons have blue LEDs. But that's not very important. Pairing it with the Hermes was pretty painless, you just turn it off and then hold the Equalizer/Bluetooth button >7 seconds. The passcode is, of course, 0000. It has three separate Bluetooth icons - one for it being off/on/discoverable, one for hands-free being connected, and one for A2DP being connected.
When re-pairing after turning it off or something, the A2DP mode does not reconnect automatically. I've tried pressing 6 (Pause) and that made it reconnect. Maybe there are other ways of doing it, I don't know.
I am still experimenting with the A2DP settings to figure out what sounds best - I am using the Microsoft stack, so I'm not expecting miracles here - so far, it sounds OK at BitPool/MaxBitPool = 58 and Joint Stereo = 1. Contrary to popular belief, Joint Stereo is NOT mono, but I have yet to determine whether the Microsoft stack thinks that. I just need to play the right song. I read somewhere on this forum that increasing BitPool/MaxBitPool to 72 while keeping Joint Stereo on sounds good, so I'll try that later.
I will try the hands-free mode later on as well. Updates to follow.
UPDATE 1: More on A2DP (and a bit of hands-free)
I set both of the BitPool values to 72 and enabled Joint Stereo. It works well. The sound is most definitely stereo, and the quality is a lot better than what it was with a lower BitPool and Joint Stereo off. I've never tried the Widcomm stack, so I can't compare it to that. I also tried hands-free calling, but it did not work at all. That turned out to be an issue with the ROM (because it no longer worked with my HT820 either), which has since been resolved by flashing a different ROM. One extremely disappointing thing is that it looks like, for making calls, you can only initiate a redial from the device. I haven't looked into that too much yet.
UPDATE 2: Hands-free
I still haven't been able to make it do anything but redial for initiating calls, but the call quality appears to be quite good, both for the person on the other end and for me. I have to say, I'm impressed by that, especially since the Parrot MK6000 apparently has a huge separate dual microphone that you have to mount in order to get clarity.
One thing that has started to annoy me is the beeping when I turn off my car. Apparently it's to remind me to take off the faceplate, but I don't always want to do that and it pretty damn annoying. I don't believe there is a way to turn that off. You can turn off other beeps, but not that one.
UPDATE 3: A2DP again
The wireless stereo really does work well! The Hermes is able to handle receiving Internet radio streams (www.di.fm in my case) and piping them through A2DP just fine using MortPlayer. Speaking of which, AVRCP works well. Play/pause, previous, and next buttons all work, but with a slight (<1 sec) delay, which is caused by something other than the BT2500 because the same delay occurs with the Motorola HT820. It's either an issue with MortPlayer or the Microsoft stack - I don't know which one since that is the only combination I've used that supports AVRCP.
One thing I have yet to try is receiving a call while listening to music. I will try to do it tomorrow and see what happens.
I've had the MEX-BT5000 (the BT2500's predecessor) since January & use it with my Wizard. I haven't had any issues with A2DP connections -- I've paired it only once when I installed the headunit.
The only time I have to reconnect is if the Sony powers up without my Wizard in range -- the next time I power up the Sony, it'll connect to the Wizard's hands-free profile, but not in A2DP. To reconnect A2DP, open up the Wizard's BT connections screen, select the MEX-BT5000 device, and right-click "Set as Wireless Stereo".
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I've had the MEX-BT5000 (the BT2500's predecessor) since January & use it with my Wizard. I haven't had any issues with A2DP connections -- I've paired it only once when I installed the headunit.
The only time I have to reconnect is if the Sony powers up without my Wizard in range -- the next time I power up the Sony, it'll connect to the Wizard's hands-free profile, but not in A2DP. To reconnect A2DP, open up the Wizard's BT connections screen, select the MEX-BT5000 device, and right-click "Set as Wireless Stereo".
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Im fitting a BT5000 today in my new car. What car did you install yours in?
Ive fitted a new head unit to a vauxhall corsa before but never needed to use the smart cable for steering whell controls...is it dead easy?
P.S: the new car is a 2003 vauxhall astra
Does the BT5000 let you do voice dial through the Hermes/Wizard, or does it also just support last number redial? So far, I haven't been able to get it to do anything but redial for call initiation.
mrvanx said:
Im fitting a BT5000 today in my new car. What car did you install yours in?
Ive fitted a new head unit to a vauxhall corsa before but never needed to use the smart cable for steering whell controls...is it dead easy?
P.S: the new car is a 2003 vauxhall astra
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Mine is a 2002 Mitsubishi Diamante -- I had to get a $60 translation unit to interface the steering wheel controls to the headunit. Installing the translation unit took some doing -- they're a bit tricky to program.
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Does the BT5000 let you do voice dial through the Hermes/Wizard, or does it also just support last number redial? So far, I haven't been able to get it to do anything but redial for call initiation.
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Haven't tried voicedial -- I've got Voice Command 1.6 installed on the Wizard, so I think it'd work. I'll give it a try tomorrow.
Quick report back, had a right bastard of a time installing it LOL!
Vauxhall cables are deliberatly CRAPPY, i had to swap over two of the wires because the unit was not keeping the time or radio stations when i switched off the ignition. I also purchased a smart lead to enable the steering wheel controls.
Finally got it working, works an absolute DREAM with both A2DP and handsfree.
I am also thinking of getting the BT2500, but my big problem with it is the 'redial' problem. Apparently the BT5000 can download and store 50 numbers but doesn't allow for voicedial, (I've heard anyways)...
Trancecoder: Did you ever find something to trick the phone into launching voicedialing when a bluetooth redial was activated? What about the 1-6 buttons, can they be programmed for speeddials like the BT5000 ??
JamesManios - I don't believe the BT2500 downloads any contact info whatsoever, so those keys won't be able to be programmed. As for the redial vs voice dial issue, I haven't experimented much with it, so if there is a way to make it speed dial, I haven't found it yet.
Trancecoder: Thanks for the reply, how are you liking the unit now that you've had it for a while.
As an idea for dialing I was thinking of making an app to maybe accomplish it, but some of it I don't know how to do yet...
My idea was, have the app pole every 200msec or so and see if the phone has started dialing (that I pretty much know how to do), then see if you are connected to the bluetooth handsfree (don't know how to do that just yet)... then the program can assume that if you are dialing AND in the car (because you are connected), then you must be using the redial... STOP the redial and launch the VoiceDialing app...
It leads to some questions, like would the Stereo drop the BT connection and therefore the voice prompt would be from the phone speaker and using the phone mic and NOT the stereo...
I currently have this (which works very well), but not as clean as the stereo ... but I'm not sure I want to lose CallID and VoiceDial... to buy this unit.
http://www.vitebo.com/ny00050/produ...betiew&MenuID=28&BClassID=9&SClassID=0&PID=13
ive had a bmw m3 and the bluetooth sucks in it my infiniti much better. i always use my jawbone though. I may need to pick this one up.
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Trancecoder: Thanks for the reply, how are you liking the unit now that you've had it for a while.
As an idea for dialing I was thinking of making an app to maybe accomplish it, but some of it I don't know how to do yet...
My idea was, have the app pole every 200msec or so and see if the phone has started dialing (that I pretty much know how to do), then see if you are connected to the bluetooth handsfree (don't know how to do that just yet)... then the program can assume that if you are dialing AND in the car (because you are connected), then you must be using the redial... STOP the redial and launch the VoiceDialing app...
It leads to some questions, like would the Stereo drop the BT connection and therefore the voice prompt would be from the phone speaker and using the phone mic and NOT the stereo...
I currently have this (which works very well), but not as clean as the stereo ... but I'm not sure I want to lose CallID and VoiceDial... to buy this unit.
http://www.vitebo.com/ny00050/produ...betiew&MenuID=28&BClassID=9&SClassID=0&PID=13
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The unit's pros outweigh its cons, at least for me personally. I receive a lot more calls than I make while driving, so the dialing issue is not a big deal for me. The person on the other end can definitely hear background noise, but they can still hear me pretty well when I have my windows open and driving ~50MPH. The unit also plays MP3 CDs, which is nice because I have some from when I was using my old MP3 CD player. A2DP quality is good, although occasionally there is a drop out for about half a second. Sometimes it happens 20 minutes into driving, sometimes not at all, so I have no idea what's causing it. Overall, I'm satisfied with it.
One thing I noticed is that when I press the Hermes button 5 (mapped to Cyberon Voice Commander) while fully connected to the BT2500, the "Say command" prompt goes out through the Hermes' speaker and not the BT2500. That may cause additional problems if you want to try and create a software fix for the auto-redial.
That Vitebo website is full of Engrish! "THE FRESH PET OF CAR ARTICLE" - what does that mean?
Ya, that website is pretty brutal, unfortunately the manual is similar but I got it finally figured it out (I hope)
I decided against the Sony and bought a none BT headunit, thanks for all the info though.
Had mine for 8 months now...
Excellent unit. I had BMW factory fit bluetooth in my old car, this is much clearer (VW Passat).
I used mune with an Artemis, and now an Elf/Touch...
It doesn't download a phonebook, so the only dialing it can do is redial last number - but just use PocketCm and dial with your finger!
Quality is good - I have found, however, that A2DP streaming breaks up unless I use Coreplayer, which is 100% perfect... and yes, pressing '6' a coupl eof times toggles on the bluetooth stereo on the device, which is good, because otherwise, I wouldn't be able to hear tomtom instructions if I had the radio on!
Sound quality all round is excellent - just a shame it dosn't have a steering-wheel mounted remote instead of the useless IR one...
I am using a handsfree Bluetooth in my car. It is not a high-end device, but it certainly did what it was meant to do with my former Bold 9700. Voice quality is good, it is easy to use.
With my S2 i777 I seem to have issues with it.
If I activate 'Driving Mode', I could hear the Driving Mode On through the BT speaker. If I press the DIAL button on the BT, I could hear the What Would You Like To Do command through the speaker, but only once. If I try it again nothing will come out from the BT speaker.
I then turn Driving Mode off and back on, but it won't help. I TAP & SPEAK on the phone itself, hoping to hear it through the BT - doesn't work.
So I don't think there is anything 'wrong' with the BT itself because it worked perfectly fine with the Bold and it works with the S2 for a minute or two. So what could be wrong? Is it possible that the S2's BT work only with specific devices?
I'd try with a second device. The fly-by-night-company handsfree kit I bought at Frys gave me all sorts of problems, but the Jabra unit I have works well with everything. Bluetooth is a finicky technology, especially in regard to the different implementation between stacks, and BT has been amazing on my i777.
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I'd try with a second device. The fly-by-night-company handsfree kit I bought at Frys gave me all sorts of problems, but the Jabra unit I have works well with everything. Bluetooth is a finicky technology, especially in regard to the different implementation between stacks, and BT has been amazing on my i777.
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Then the gods are looking down on you - my S2's bluetooth connection to my Jabra Cruzer2 is one glaring weakness with this phone. My connection drops and reconnect at seemingly random times - this is with the phone in my shirt pocket and about two feet from the Jabra.
Update
I realized something today and I am 99% confident that there is nothing wrong with the Bluetooth.
The Voice Command 'wakes up' when I turn the BT on. When I hit the DIAL button on my BT, nothing happens. If I press any of the Voice Command buttons it works fine (that is - "who would you like to call", or "Who would you like to text", etc.), and I can hear it loud and clear through the BT. However, when I speak to the BT nothing happens.
Furthermore, if I shut down the BT completely and want to use the Voice Command through the phone, I double-tap the HOME button, the VC comes up and asks me what do I want to do, but it still does not respond when I speak.
So it looks like something is wrong with the phone or with the ROM or with the Voice Command or what have you, but it's not the BT.
Any idea?
No one has any idea why Voice Command won't work?
So, I'm having a strange issue with my new Note that I can't quite determine where the root cause may be, or if it's a known issue.
If I register my Note with my car as both a phone and an audio device (how the Infiniti nav/stereo works) I can use the Note as a phone fine UNLESS I start an audio app, such as Pandora. Once a2dp audio starts the Note will no longer connect as a phone device, but it works fine for audio.
I had the phone paired with the stock ATT rom but only used it as a phone, so unfortunately, without a restore to stock, I can't tell if the problem exists with the stock rom.
I flashed to flappjaxxx's rom (which I love) the same day I setup the phone to run Pandora via Bluetooth and that's when I started seeing the problem.
I also see some random connect/reconnects that seem a bit more than usual.
So, I can't say there's a correlation, or if this is a known ICS beta issue or what, but I'm hoping it is and that it's not a design flaw
Way I see it it's either:
1. Flashing to any ICS beta rom has the problem, currently?
2. It's in flappjaxxx's build (doubtful)
3. It's user error...(possible )
4. It's an app issue (ie. Pandora is causing the problem?)
Anyone have any thoughts, suggestions or insights? I've done some searching but haven't found this exact issue yet on any posts.
Thanks!
I have a Kenwood DNX9960 in my Avalanche. It connects also for phone and for streaming media. I can be streaming media from either the stock music player or an internet site like pandora or TuneIn and my calls will automatically come through. When the call ends it goes right back to streaming.
It autoconnects to both as long as my phone is in range when I turn on the kenwood. I did have an issue at first where it would not autoconnect. I deleted the pairing from both my phone and headunit. Then when I repaired I paid close attention to check any boxes to "Always" allow connection and I haven't had any issues since.
I understand the normal pairing process, I've had several phones before that worked fine prior to the Note. So, I'm thinking that it is probably a corrupt bluetooth db... I'm going to be reflashing to Flaps new rom and we'll see how that does
Is there a way to delete the pairing from the nav? I would try that
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There is. I've tried it all, on both sides of the pairing.
I've reflashed the phone to the B6 from FJ, still no joy. The pairing db was new (so no chance of corruption on the phone) and the pairing deleted on the device.
It seems to be a problem with the phone switching between a2dp and phone bt. When a call comes in (while playing say Pandora over bt) the audio cuts out and then the car shows "disconnected" and then "connection failed" if trying to reconnect to the Note as a phone (ie hitting the phone button in the car).
I'm hoping it's the current ICS build. Just have no way to really know. Hoping some other folks will have seen the same issue.
Going to run some tests with different audio sources and see if the behavior is the same.
Well things seem to be working now, for no obvious reason I'll have to assume that the reflash resolved the issue, I just can't tell for sure why it didn't work immediately after. I think it's due to deleting the old pairing on the car and not shutting down the vehicle.
Cheers.
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I have similar problem connecting to van audio system (vauxhall). After some experimentation it appears to be an ICS problem, if I reflash my note with gingerbread I have seamless connections for both audio and phone. As soon as I upgrade even with offical ICS bluetooth connections become problematic, I can pair but not autoconnect. Tried samsung and they just "fob off" with it's an incompatable device. Until a bug fix is issued it appears as though it's a choic of staying with gingerbread and have a working system or ICS and no handsfree.
I have the AT&T Galaxy S II Skyrocket and my phone used to auto-connect to my car via bluetooth without any problem, even after upgrading to ICS in early July. All of sudden since yesterday a problem has popped up: whenever I start the car, the car's control panel shows "bluetooth connection successful" or something similar, and then the car audio system switches into the talk mode as if the phone is in the mid of a phone call. Of course I am not in the middle of any phone call. So there is no audio heard (no radio, no cd playing, etc). I try to press the button on the car's panel to disconnect the call but it always returns to that talk mode. After some tests I find out that if I make any phone call, the call will be disconnected immediately and the status of my car's panel returns to normal. But next time when I start the car, the issue appears again until I make any phone call.
At the beginning I thought something was wrong with my car. Then I tried two other phones: one was iphone 3G, and the other was an old htc magic with android 2.2. Both of their bluetooth systems worked well with my car. So I believe it is something wrong with the Galaxy phone. However I am not sure what could be the problem exactly.
My phone is not rooted.
Any help is highly appreciated!
Maybe try GOING TO YOUR PHONE'S FORUMS this is not the skyrocket
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EDIT: I just had this issue with a Jaybird X3 wireless earbuds. So it's not the BMW's issue. Any new ideas?
Hi! Wonder if anyone's encountered this issue and have any idea how to fix it.
Whenever I make or receive a phone call while in the car, the audio will ALWAYS come out of the phone's speaker instead of through the car's bluetooth. I can see the "in-call" screen on the phone and it says that output is BT. I have to push the BT icon to turn that off and on again and the audio will now go to the car. Every single time.
Tried un-pairing and pairing again, tried rebooting the phone. Nothing. Only does this with the car (BMW 3-series, 2017), all my other BT headsets and my wife's car work perfectly fine.
Any ideas?
P.S. I'm very aware that this may be BMW's fault, since they're dicks and suck at software development. Still, if anyone has an idea, it'd be very welcome!!
Hmm, I do not have this issue on my F32 and S9+ Snapdragon. Have you tried factory resetting the phone and iDrive to clear out any other pairings or non-default settings? It is a pain to set everything up again but will be the quickest way to determine if this is an issue with the iDrive. Next would be trying an iDrive update.
How do you reset iDrive? because I'm noticing that it's not syncing all the contacts on the phone... prefer this to doing a factory reset on the phone (paaaainful!)
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Haven't gotten any calls while using my Jaybird, but in my Corvette call audio comes through the car speakers, not the phone. Same in my wife's Honda.
Something to look at: When I'm connected to the car BT, there's a notification from Samsung's Smartthings app that I can tap and choose whether audio goes to the car, or to the phone. Might be worth checking that.
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to remember your selection from one session to the next.
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I use a X3 daily for both work and my workouts. When I drive to work or so I connect to my Toyota Highlander ('17) and thus far absolutely no issues with phone calls. Mind you I make A LOT of calls all the time so I would be peeved no hell if I had such issues. Like mentioned above, resetting your phone might be required. Please keep us informed if resetting does help. Thanks.
No issue with my BMW and I have jaybird as well but only uses it for songs
Well, crap. Will have to reset phone and report back.
Thanks everyone!
UPDATE: Factory reset worked!!!
My guess is that when I moved from the S7 to the S9+, I used the "Smart Switch" app. Something must have transferred over that the new phone didn't like. Took me 2+ hours and it is a pain in the ass, but now I can use my car's BT and the X3 earphones to make calls!